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I've been out of town and was looking at the latest post on the Partner aspect.
It brought to mind the last time a product was being developed by "the company". After a period of time the main developers, being they had the monies invested as well as shares they agreed to settle by taking over that protion of the project by returning those shares and releasing debt. We as shareholder were left with the shell company. This has the aroma (or smell) of the same.
Another investment I was involved with, sold the project and placed the monies into paying off debt and the share value did not increase.
Let's be cautious and look closely on what is going on.
Longtime
To continue.
" and are synergistic with the overall direction of ADGI."
"Imaging Systems Synergies,Inc. is projecting gross revenues of approximately $5 million over the next 12 months".
"American Diversified Group,Inc. is a diversified medically oriented company with affiliates, joint venture partners and operated in South and Central America, West and Central Africa, as well as the united states."
The last paragraph is what I have been saying.
Since 1993 I've seen this company go from a land developer, autombile system, medical oriented to what we have today.
What Happened to those other?
They just went by the wayside and so did some of our monies.
Don't get to wrapped up with making a lot of money and hope
This venture pans put for us all.
longtime
I'm presently moving to another town, in some old ADGI papers I came across a fax that was sent out on June 25, 1996. It was "FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE" The heading was "AMERICAN DIVERSIFIED GROUP, INC. ACQUIRES IMAGING SYSTEM SYNERGIES, INC."
In the text the following is written about the company.
"...an internet gateway provider and an internet service provider using satellite technology and satellite earth stations for global communication purpose."
It goes on "There are many areas not served by physical telephone lines or cables and the availability for utilization of satellite tranmission offers an extened range of communication services for the areas."
"...Being a gateway provider gives us the opportunity to open sites in all of the major cities both nationally and internationally directly or on a licensee basis thus greatly expanding our services. This acquisition provides an internet technology that will benefit the programs and goals of the company
Longtime
Trucker-Lou,
The last time I was at Edwards's you were restricted to certain location and had to have clearance for those other areas.
If you want to visit the site for GTE, you should contact them for a pass.
Longtime
I agree, even buying in a $7.00 ps I'm way ahead of the game and as a retired person this beats my Blue Chip by 100 fold.
Also awaiting BTTC.
longtime
one of our high altitiude RPV's was in competition with the U2, that was produced by LM. We were able to accomplish the same task as they to the point we also had the U2 as a chase plane, the pilot of the U2 said that he was having a tough time controlling is position but our aircraft without a man was flying wings level. Not all thing that they do means that they can do everything better. We(GTE)still have a good platform to accomplish the military and commercial aspect of stratospheric communication.
Longtime
To send a ground signal to any airborne platform by Laser can cause a problem with anything that may fly into its path. Airborne to Airborne will work as the altitude of the ROA is above any interference of the weather. Like Internet systems we still have to rely and the copper connection or in this application the RF signal. Alot of can be squeezed into a Frequency Band.
Longtime
The heat from the equipment can be used to warm the batteries as well as blanket that use low energy are available. I work with a company that has a patent for such things, they use them to keep pizza warm during deliveries.
longtime
OGCJU,
If you are so concern about how the company is being run, or not run, by your account, go buy enough Stock and join the board where you can asked those that have a say, and if you get enough investment in the company you can tell them how to run the operation. Remember only the engineer is responsible for the train not the conductor.
longtime
True,to some degree, but the action today is the Stratelite, where the hopes are for large investors. The others,like the VOIP, don't seem to have much more appeal, as being experienced by the industry and have run their course of investors.
Longtime
Imo, Leigh Coleman has been the main person involved with the developement and deployment of the Stratelite, which to me as a long time investor, of GTEL, is the core. The others have their managers getting those operation into action. As I see our future, it will be in the completion of the Stratelite. It will make GTEL a key player or a nice acquisition by the likes of General Dynamics or Northrup-Grumman who already are in the ROA business. So just sit back and hold on for the ride.
Longtime
while testing RPV's in the 60's & 70's we flew over the Pacific Missile Range, the area from the west coast to beyond Hawaii. We had to get approval from Range Control and schedule our operation as to not interfere with others who would be using the Range. Civilian/commercial or military had to fly in specific corridors and altitude and not wander into restricted areas. The same applies to the Edwards Test Range imo that is why you will not find information from the FAA about the certification process. Any time we had to go into Civilian airspace we had to equip our RPV with a Transponder that could be activated with the code of the day for our operation, to allow the Air Traffic Control identify us or else it would have been shot down.
longtime
Lets all understand that the FAA does not control the area that the Vehicle will be tested in. Only and only, when the vehicle is move into commercial airspace that they will become involved for public safety and flight safety.
Edwards and most of the western pacific is under the combined military and controlled by USAF/NASA/(Access 5).
To test using simulation can reveal function problems and controller training but not air worthiness, that can be done in a wind tunnel but we have a unit that is much to large and doing some flights may be the only way, imo to see what it can do. The way they finished Sanwire 1 for the tether test lead me to believe they can get one ready for a launch by the end of summer.
longtime
Newguy13,
I want you to get a pencil and a pad and draw a simple sketch of a car. If you can do it with out making changes your good.
That is why they make prototype, to see where there need changes and improvements. This is the same when they say after they improve on production methods they can mass produce as the necessary start-up does not have to be repeated.
longtime
The size of the aircraft has the advantage of being able to lift large packages and maintain position. Some of our RPV would fly in the range of altitudes above 50,000 and had over 24hr capabilites in the late 60's and 70's and were able to carry enough to cover large areas as well. To maintin the altitude we used large wings and big engines to get them up and to stay up. most of the wieght was in fuel to get to altitude. the wing surface although, large was not enough to keep it up against Gravity, throttling back you could glide and maintain altitude for awhile, but if you lost power, you came home. The Motor on Sanwire look big enough to help it maintain such a position.
longtime
Give me a break. This thing may be able to stay up but what kind of payload. We are talking hundreds of pounds, even tons to do the things stated by GTEL. We had to have an aircraft the size of a U2 to carry the guidance and telemetry plus the surveilance equipment. I know things have gottten smaller in the past years but that only means you can cram more in the same size boxes.
longtime
axeman1203
Not all GPS have to operate by satellite. As long as you can have contact with the ROA you know its position. You can use ground vectors from diferent site to maintain position.
Longtime
In the agreement it was mention that there were two Items. one was reimbursed and the other was non-reimbursed funds. The US Budget is required to invest in some developement at no cost to the groups being funded, like DARPA, where they have Billions to fund without expectation for re-imbursement. They will fund other agencies to develope pet projects.
longtime
In my role of a Test Engineer, a lot of Pre-Flight preparation was done by simulation. We would take the unit or a replica to a wind tunnel and we would develope computer programs to train the Operators on the how to fly the unit as it was sometimes not visible to the naked eye and we had to use Radar and Telemetry signals for response. These are costly if you do not have a large computer for real time response you have to by time on someone system. Dryden is such a place and will be of great value working out the bugs. The people know what it takes and yes sometime it is slow but you can be sure it will be right. Better to loose one on the computer than one on the ground. You can always start the program over and see your mistakes than do a crash site evaluation.
longtime.
Like I posted earlier, we were doing this exact thing in the 60' with the Cuban missile and in the Asian Pacific area in the 70's where we tested all these including a high intensity lighting system for detecting movement at night. Someone posted in an article where the most to object to UAV warfare were Pilots of convectional aircraft. It was this criticism, and the thought that they would be replaced led to Military doing away with our funding. The Predator and Global Hawk showed how acurate they could be.
With Sanswire, the communication link would be done with out interuptions and for greater distances.
That was one of our problems when flying the Reconnaisance Unmanned Aircraft in the 60 and 70's. We had to have a line of control, which meant an airborne system or a series of radar site, much like the Shuttle has today. With a series of these types of HAAV a lot can be done.
I Believe, most of that has been done. They use a water injection system, somewhat like vertical drilling. I know that our community has been done for fibre optics and underground cabling.
Seebass,
Don't count them out. This company has gone from land, auto product, medical, telephony, to aerospace in the years that I've been an investor. They may be using Gtel as a model.
Kevinoak,
We had airborne systems that were as high as 70,000 feet and we still had to have the other sites. If you watch any of NASA's launches, they have sites all over the world because they have dead spots. I'm surprised they feel one controling site will be enough.
To all,
In some of my past post, I've mentioned my experience with Remotely Piloted Vehicles now called UAV's. What everyone seems to be missing is that in order to operate any UAV there is a support staff and equipment needed. You can not just throw it up and let it operate on its own. The Stratalite will need to have some line of sight for the ground crew to position and maintain its station. There will also be a need for these thing to be launched from some sort of airfield and to this date I've not seen mentioned location of assembly, launches and control stations. We had, for one operation, sites placed on mountain top, C-130 aircraft, and ground control. The use of the phone system mentioned that it was big, was the power needed to get the range. A cell phone, although, is powerful enough to get to most site, IMO, does not have the power to reach a stratalite. Wi Max Says 30 miles I think it is line of site. WI Fi I beleive is good within 50 feet.
Tony,
If you remember, the reason for the altitude of 65,000 feet was because of the air being thin and not having the influence of the jet stream, which I think you feel will propel the Airship.
The wing you discribe was a Star Trek episode using Solar Wind. In Outer Space, a small movement will go on forever, because is a vacuum and not having any influence, but at 65,000 feet you still have the Gravational pull of the Earth and must be able to POWER the unit back into it's position.
My Sister-In- Law clled me this morning also stating that it was on the local news in Grants Pass, OR.. To answer you on the question as to who own who?, IMO, any division of a company can be spun off with some of the asset being diverted to the new company with or without compensation to shareholders.
Apparently some of you failed to here Mr.Huff when he said that the old sanwire was not a part of GTEL and that they were going to change their symbols in the next two weeks or so.
Apparently you have never built anything at all.
The first thing you do is design, make mock ups, if you are building an aircraft, you do air studies. If you are lucky a prototype. You then build the frame, what you saw in the pictures, evenetually the finished product. I, as a Flight Test Engineer, Who has flown over both populated and ristricted areas was concern on the items that Mr. Huff said at the presentation. To that, he has answered my concern positivly. If you DO NOT feel you have confidence in this project than I say GOOD BY and HAVE A NICE POST ELSWHERE.
I don't know if any of you has read where DARPA, the main organization that funds off beat research, is scaling back on research to only those that seem reasonable, and where I think Sanwire might be planning to get low, if not free grant monies. They Sanwire, might find it difficult to continue the research on HAAS, unless it get partners like Lockehhed Martin or someone with lots of dollars otherwise we might see a drop in interest, as it will become expensive. If we do not have a successful demonstration of the proto unit we may all see the stock in the pennies again so haoe for the best demo ever..
AS a Flight Test Engineer, it was my responsibility to launch, from a C130, a unmanned Drone. Behind that there were no less than 50 people involved with the testing of Engine performance, electonics, guidance, weather, flight schedule retrieval location. They are all doing their paart on getting this in the air and making it a success.
long time
In your post, you mentioned that it had a pilot, operating the controls and in the post the altitude was 7500'. It isn't much to equipt any of these with remote control systems to replace the pilot. If you wanted to get the feel of the systems you could use a similator or use a pilot on the basic aircraft. The altitude is below 10,000' so oxygen is not required and the 7500' will give enough for a parachute exit.
again I ask has anyone seen or heard of a patent for the Sanwire One vehicle?.
Just got in to check the board. In reference to owning a subsidiary and have its income be a part of the whole, it only works for the bottom line dollar of the parent not the investors.
I had posted an example where I as an investor, who owned shares of a company that sold off a profitable subsidiary, for a profit of millions, recieved no benefits in share increase. In fact, the shares went down, because what they sold, was their biggest source of revenue.
I agree. IMO that would increase the share value and if most of the share have been issued they can increase the number of shares only by the vote of the stockholders. We as present stockholder can sell some of our shares to regain or profit from our investment as long time holders of this stock.
Last post for the day. Does anyone know if the vehicle or the concept has been patented or has a trademark pending. I went to the USPTO for a search and came up empty.
Then, you are set. Go for it and let us know as well.
I don't know what happen to a post I sent out, I guess it got lost in the mail.
Edwards, the last time I was out there was a closed base and you had to have clearance to enter and unless you had permission to Photograph, as most Photojournalist have, it is against the law to photograph into a Military restricted area, especially Edwards.
For those of you that plan on sitting back and seeing the launch, just a point of reference, we flew into Edwards the first time on the dry lake bed, where most of this type of activities take place and we were 8 miles from the base and at least 10 mile from any roads.
It is also at least 75 miles from Las Vegas and not just a hop skip and a jump.
and last the Vehicle is 1/3 scale and going up to 55,000 feet at 10 miles you may not see much.
That is correct, but the area over Edwards for that matter most of the surrounding area all the way to Hawaii has or is under Pacific Missile Range Control restriction for flight corridors and Altitudes.
The site is over restricted area and may not need FAA approval to be flown or tested. We use to test and fly RPV (Remotely Piloted Aircraft), Target Drones, before they were called UAV, over Military Restricted Areas and only need the approval when we ventured into National Airspace and had to be equipped with transponder code for identification. The area is controlled by the local agency and must meet their approval and scheduling.
As to the Inspectors we are not talking about some local nobody they may have a better understanding of Flight Engineering and Aeronautical Design than most of you will ever know.
Don't cut them short.
As to the other enterprises of GTEL I've seen this company change from Land Investment, Automobile Computer Leveling and Control, Bio-medical Kits to the present and all the others are long gone and forgotten, so play your card right and I hope you all make your Millions or at least a profit.
The Idea that this is some kind of game is amusing.
To be able to launch a 1/3 scale unit and then a full scale unit and build a network will take money that I don't see GTEL having. If they were to get a GRANT from DARPA who has billions to grant companies like this I don't look for GTEL to continue with Stratallite on its own