Value Microcaps Pick Six Lotto 10

[SSKILLZ1]

See answer on VMC PSL 11 Board.

[MSGI]

There will be no trading allowed in the first week of VMC PSL 11.
Does that include freezes?

[lentinman]

PSL 11 and Break The Hank Bank deadlines

PSL 11 and Break The Hank deadline will be on Jan 9th. They will use Jan 9th closing prices, and the contests will officially start on Jan 12th.

There will be no trading allowed in the first week of VMC PSL 11.

Len

[RMIWA]

As I have said before, being at the bottom of this list isn't all that bad. Thanks to all for making this possible and sharing their knowledge.

Mat

[Knowledge is King]

Thanks for crunching those numbers, len


I wish my real world returns reflected my apparent PSL accumen...

[lentinman]

EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN IN ALL CONTESTS:

There are 30 people who have participated in all 10 PSL contests. The list is below. Shown is their average difference (above or below) the average return for each PSL.

I must give special recognition to those near the bottom of this list for plugging away and sticking with it. That deserves a lot of respect!

  1 KNOWLEDGE    24.49%  
  2 DANLC        17.52%        
    MR.  SHEEP   11.68%   
  3 ABH3VT       11.36%   
  4 GILEAD23      9.39%   
  5 LENTINMAN     8.27%   
  6 RESEARCHER    6.62%   
  7 TMCAL6        6.32%   
  8 MIKES97707    5.04%   
  9 STANU78       4.91%   
 10 HWEB2         4.74%   
 11 SSKILLZ1      4.26%   
 12 BBOTCS        3.02%   
 13 BOBWINS       2.06%   
 14 VALUEMIND     1.55%   
 15 YIELDDUDE     1.47%   
 16 10BAGGER      1.35%   
 17 MIKEO56       0.54%   
 18 CL001         0.41%   
 19 SHMOLTON      0.31%   
 20 LINUSPOP     -0.40%   
 21 2MORROWS     -0.67%   
 22 RMIWA        -3.24%   
 23 CWS9         -3.57%   
 24 ARNIE70      -3.58%   
 25 ROGUEDOLPHIN -4.18%   
 26 BUCFAN33617  -4.23%   
 27 ZEN  LUNATIC -6.63%   
 28 BEIGLEDOG    -8.85%   
 29 SWAMPBOOTS  -14.88%   
 30 THEALICEMAY -16.49%

Len

[MSGI]

Len, I am not sure that I follow you 100%, but I am going to trust you on this because the top 4 in your new system are the same as the top 4 using "average gain" except the order is slightly changed. Like I said, "these are the money guys"

TOP 4 AVG GAINERS.
1 KNOWLEDGE 28.50%
2 GUY 24.82%
3 BIGPIKE 23.62%
4 DANLC 21.54%

MODIFIED TOP 4
1 KNOWLEDGE 24.49%
2 GUY 18.09%
3 DANLC 17.52%
4 BIGPIKE 13.09%

[lentinman]

MODIFIED TOP-40:

There are 77 people who have participated in 6 (or more) PSL contests. Here are the top-40 based on the new rating system.

It is not based on ranking or return - at least not directly. It is based upon a contestant's differential between their return and the average return for each contest. Of course, the numbers below are the average of the differentials. And, if you don't follow that, just trust me. It's a better system - although still not perfect.

  1  KNOWLEDGE    24.49% 
  2  GUY          18.09% 
  3  DANLC        17.52% 
  4  BIGPIKE      13.09% 
  5  SNAKEMAN84   12.55% 
  6  NSOMNIYAK    11.72% 
     MR. SHEEP    11.68% 
  7  ABH3VT       11.36% 
  8  KIPP440      11.16% 
  9  WYOBUFORD     9.61% 
 10  MSGI          9.41% 
 11  GILEAD23      9.39% 
 12  NILESCRANE3   8.96% 
 13  LENTINMAN     8.27% 
 14  STEELEDGE     7.00% 
 15  CLIFFVB       6.86% 
 16  NETWORM       6.79% 
 17  DIGITECH      6.66% 
 18  RESEARCHER    6.62% 
 19  TMCAL6        6.32% 
 20  MIKES97707    5.04% 
 21  STANU78       4.91% 
 22  HWEB2         4.74% 
 23  CLEVERROX     4.64% 
 24  SSKILLZ1      4.26% 
 25  BBOTCS        3.02% 
 26  MICHAELT      2.82% 
 27  ECHOS         2.52% 
 28  BOBWINS       2.06% 
 29  VALUEMIND     1.55% 
 30  YIELDDUDE     1.47% 
 31  10BAGGER      1.35% 
 32  MIKEO56       0.54% 
 33  CL001         0.41% 
 34  SHMOLTON      0.31% 
 35  STEVENRISK    0.09% 
 36  TBONE58X     -0.06% 
 37  LINUSPOP     -0.40% 
 38  RRUFFF       -0.43% 
 39  2MORROWS     -0.67% 
 40  LARRYBAZ     -1.10%
Len 
  
 

                            

[SSKILLZ1]

Timhyma, I-box is still under construction. But below is the link.

#board-14726

[timhyma]

Lotto 11 board up yet?

[lentinman]

MSGI:

"BTW, I think that the top 4 contestants have been in all of the contests."

That's incorrect and that's why it's a mistake to simply look at the returns of the top people.

Pike was in the first two (Averages +28% and +26%), but was gone for the last two (Averages -12% and -41%). Nothing against him, but every single one of us would have considerably higher returns if we participated in 1&2 and missed 9&10.

Also, GUY missed 7,8 and 9. (+8%, -3%, -12%).

I'm going to settle on one ranking system and that will be it. I can see how I might improve on Gilead's suggestion, but the modifications to it would be very difficult to explain and of very modest benefit. So, I'll probably just take the average PSL return for each contest and measure each person's "REAL" return with respect to it - and keep track of that.

Len

[littlefish]

Hey, since when is 0% return an avg market? Are things that bad now?

PS- to supplement your negative thoughts, the 50% (horrible market) haircut of course is heavier than the 50% gain (great market) example in that a 50% drop would take 100% gain to regain equilibrium and 50% gain followed by 50% drop would put a port down 25% (uh my math sux so I'm not positive on that LOL).

So Be HAPPY and stop the negative vibes ;)

I for one will be happy to enter the next PSL (and probably BTHB) cuz there's actually stuff I can look at and go 'hey, that's cheap'.

Good luck, thanx for the legwork you guys do and of course Merry Fishmas.

I gotta go sing another round of 'Let It Snow' with some friends. WOOHOO! May get a white Christmas yet in Seattle.

[MSGI]

Len, I think that you should keep tract of all three, but I realize that is a lot of work, so I will continue to keep tract of who the top 4 or 5 contestants are according to average gain for myself because to me these are the MONEY GUYS. BTW, I think that the top 4 contestants have been in all of the contests, but I realize that someone that has been in fewer than all could creep into the top 4 or 5. If they do I will be watching their picks for possible investments too.

[lentinman]

KIK:

Sure. If I had a list of ONLY those players who were in all 10 (as you requested - and as I will do), then it wouldn't matter whether you did them by rank or by rating. There might be a slight anamoly here or there, but the order would be pretty close to the same either way.

Len

[Knowledge is King]

len

Wouldn't presenting the rankings for only those players who were in ALL ten PSLs negate your argument?

[lentinman]

MSGI:

You are missing the point. Let's take it to the extreme. Let's say there are only three contests. The first one has an average return of 50% (great market). The second one has an average return of 0% (average market). The third one has an average return of -50%. (horrible market).

Person A only participated 1&2. Person B only in 2&3. Person A had totals of +40% and -10% - thus, he was below average in both.

Person B had +10% and -40% - thus, he was above average in both.

The "ranking" list would show person B ahead of Person A as it should since person B was in the upper half of both contests and Person A was in the lower half of both contests.

The percentage return list, on the other hand, would wrongly show Person A ahead of Person B because Person A had an average return of +15% while Person B had an average return of -15%.

That's the fundamental flaw in using ratings (returns) when they are all over the map and not everyone participates in all contests.

Your argument is in error because you are not factoring in whether those four were in contests that were skewed up or skewed down.

As I said, there could also be a built in flaw for using ratings as opposed to rankings. That would be if the number of participants were all over the map. Say you only had 20 for one contest and 100 for another. A person who got 20th sucked in the first one, but a person who got 25th in the second one was pretty darn good.

Gilead's idea is probably the best of all worlds. I suspect I'll get rid of both rank and rate the way I have them and go to just that one in the future.

Len

[MSGI]

IMPORTANT PLEASE READ
To expand a little more on my previous post, had I invested $400K ($100K divided equally among all the picks of each contestant) of the top 4 average gainers picks over all the PSL contests, I would have made $98,480. Had I invested $400K ($100K divided equally among all the picks of each contestant) of the top 4 "ranked" contestants over all the PSL contests, , I would have made $59,750. Now Len, I know that you just do this for FUN, but I think that the rest of us are here to try and make MONEY. So that is why I disagree with your post #746

1 KNOWLEDGE 28.50%
2 GUY 24.82%
3 BIGPIKE 23.62%
4 DANLC 21.54%

1 GUY 24.82%
2 SNAKEMAN84 13.93%
3 WYOBUFORD 7.90%
4 NSOMNIYAK 13.10%

[gilead23]

Len

I thought it just might be modestly more accurate. So for example if someone had a 300% return one contest and finished first their relative performance would be underestimated by pure average rank.

I'll take whatever you want to give as I am sure compiling the numbers is a PITA and I do appreciate the effort.

[lentinman]

Gilead:

That would be another way to do it.

Len

[MSGI]

Therefore, the top-40 by rank is much, much more meaningful.
I would have to disagree with that statement. If I am looking for stocks to make money on I am going to look at these guys picks.
1 KNOWLEDGE 28.50%
2 GUY 24.82%
3 BIGPIKE 23.62%
4 DANLC 21.54%

It turns out that only one of them is in the top 5 RANKINGS.

[gilead23]

Thank you Len and SSKILLZ

I appreciate the extensive work that went into all of this.

Len one comment on your rankings. I agree with the idea that ranking is more relevant than % gain given the rather unique last 6 months or so in the market.

What might be more interesting though would be to rank people based on their deviations from the average % return for each contest rather than pure rank.

So if I am in 3 contests and the average returns are

20%
50%
30%

for a group average of 33%

And I returned
40%
60%
20%

for an average return of 40% than my relative average return is +7%.

[Knowledge is King]

len, thanks again for compiling such comprehensive and interesting stats. Since it appears you'll be discontinuing average return ranking after PSL10, I'd like to request, if you can find the time, one final such ranking composed of all the players who've been in EVERY PSL. With a history of 10 PSLs under their belts, this should be a ranking of statistical (and historical (?)) significance. Thanks in advance and I'll certainly understand if your reaction is GTFOU...

[lentinman]

A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE...

... of the problem with Top-40 by Return vs Top-40 by Rank. This is not meant to be pro Wyobuford or anti Echos, but it makes the point.

The worst two contests were PSL9 (-12%) and PSL10 (-41%). Obviously, if you were fortunate enough to miss those two contests, your return would be disproportionately HIGHER. Echos missed PSL9 and PSL10. Thus, he is 5th in return, but 31st in rank.

On the other hand, the two best contests were PSL1 (+28%) and PSL2 (+26%). Obviously, if you missed those two contests, your return would be disproportionately LOWER. Unfortunately, for Wyobuford, he missed PSL1 and PSL2. Thus, he is 28th in return, but 3rd in rank.

Since the number of contestants has not changed much from contest to contest, it is clear that a list with Echos 5th and Wyobuford 28th as opposed to Wyobuford 3rd and Echos 31st is fatally flawed.

Len

[lentinman]

TOP 40: PSL1-10: AVERAGE RANK:

Must have participated in at least 6 of the 10 PSL contests to qualify (78 QUALIFIERS).

  1 GUY          20.57 
  2 SNAKEMAN84   25.33 
  3 WYOBUFORD    26.75 
  4 NSOMNIYAK    28.00 
  5 GILEAD23     28.20 
  6 KNOWLEDGE    28.30 
  7 ABH3VT       28.60 
    MR.SHEEP     28.67 
  8 BIGPIKE      29.00 
  9 CLEVERROX    30.33 
 10 CLIFFVB      30.56 
 11 RESEARCHER   31.10 
 12 HWEB2        31.40 
 13 DANLC        31.80 
 14 KIPP440      32.33 
 15 MIKES97707   33.60 
 16 NILESCRANE3  33.78 
 17 TBONE58X     35.00 
 18 LENTINMAN    35.10 
 19 TMCAL6       35.50 
 20 SSKILLZ1     36.10 
 21 STEELEDGE    36.71 
 22 STANU78      37.10 
 23 CL001        37.30 
 24 10BAGGER     38.00 
 25 DIGITECH     38.38 
 26 BBOTCS       39.00 
 27 JIM_WI       39.33 
 28 STEVENRISK   39.75 
 29 BOBWINS      39.80 
 30 MIKEO56      39.80 
 31 ECHOS        40.67 
 32 MICHAELT     41.57 
 33 OLDPRO       41.63 
 34 MSGI         41.78 
 35 MRDMRD       42.43 
 36 SEEKSUP      42.50 
 37 VALUEMIND    42.60 
 38 FIN.ADVISOR  42.88 
 39 SWANLINBAR   43.00 
 40 2MORROWS     43.10

Len

[lentinman]

TOP 40: PSL1-10: AVERAGE RETURN:

Must have participated in at least 6 of the 10 PSL contests to qualify (78 QUALIFIERS).

  1 KNOWLEDGE    28.50% 
  2 GUY          24.82% 
  3 BIGPIKE      23.62% 
  4 DANLC        21.54% 
    MR.SHEEP     17.05% 
  5 ECHOS        16.27% 
  6 ABH3VT       15.37% 
  7 STEELEDGE    15.31% 
  8 KIPP440      14.71% 
  9 MSGI         14.31% 
 10 SNAKEMAN84   13.93% 
 11 DIGITECH     13.43% 
 12 GILEAD23     13.40% 
 13 NSOMNIYAK    13.10% 
 14 NILESCRANE3  12.50% 
 15 LENTINMAN    12.28% 
 16 MRDMRD       10.85% 
 17 STEVENRISK   10.83% 
 18 NETWORM      10.64% 
 19 RESEARCHER   10.63% 
 20 CLIFFVB      10.41% 
 21 TMCAL6       10.34% 
 22 FIN.ADVISOR   9.23% 
 23 MIKES97707    9.06% 
 24 STANU78       8.93% 
 25 HWEB2         8.75% 
 26 CLEVERROX     8.33% 
 27 SSKILLZ1      8.28% 
 28 WYOBUFORD     7.90% 
 29 JIM_WI        7.63% 
 30 BBOTCS        7.03% 
 31 BOBWINS       6.07% 
 32 PATTYDADY0    5.73% 
 33 VALUEMIND     5.57% 
 34 YIELDDUDE     5.48% 
 35 10BAGGER      5.37% 
 36 MIKEO56       4.56% 
 37 CL001         4.42% 
 38 SHMOLTON      4.33% 
 39 TBONE58X      3.89% 
 40 AVANDALAY05   3.69%

Len

[lentinman]

IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ:

You can better learn the details of Top-40 by rank vs Top-40 by return if you read the previous post.

I almost did not include Top-40 by return for a very simple reason. The differential in the 10 PSLs based on the market conditions is extreme. Thus, if a person missed the worst contests or even the best contests, his percentage would be drastically affected.

On the other hand if there were a big difference in the number of contestants, that would affect his average rank. However, there really hasn't been much difference in the number of contestants. Therefore, the top-40 by rank is much, much more meaningful.

Don't be surprised if I quit posting top-40 by return at some point in the future.

Len

[lentinman]

AVERAGE RETURN vs AVERAGE RANK:

I posted this at the end of each PSL contest.

Average return is a better measurement than average rank in most cases. For example, let's say Person A had +200% in the first PSL contest and the next closest was Person B at +50%. Now, let's say the next two contests were shown below:

              Person A       Person B   
            Return Rank    Return Rank     
 Contest 1   200%    1       50%    2     
 Contest 2    45%    3       50%    2     
 Contest 3    45%    3       50%    2

If you use total return, Person A had an average return of 96.7%, while Person B had an average return of 50%. However, if you use rankings, Person A had an average rank of 2.33 compared to Person B's average rank of 2.00.

Clearly, IMO, average return is superior to average rank based on this example.

However, there is also a weakness in average return. Say, for example, that the Person C played only in Contest 1 and Contest 2, while Person D played in all three. Let's also say that the average return by all contestants in Contest 1 was 50%, the average return by all contestants in Contest 2 was 50%, but the average return by all contestants in Contest 3 was only 10% because the market had a major correction.

So, consider this possibility:

             Person C       Person D   
            Return Rank    Return Rank     
 Contest 1    70%    8       75%    6     
 Contest 2    70%    8       75%    6     
 Contest 3     -     -       30%    6

Using this example, Person C would have the higher return average (70% versus 60%), but a lower rank average of 8 versus 6.

Who is better? Well, IMO, clearly Person D is better. It wasn't because C was better that they missed Contest 3 and therefore, Person D should not be penalized.

So, there you have two perfect examples of why one is better than the other. Because of that, you can choose either one as your favorite method. I listed the top-40 in both.

Len

[lentinman]

MSGI CHAMPION'S WRITE UP:

You can read MSGI's summary of the contest (PSL10) and his investment decisions going back several years in the Champion's Board Ibox.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=4067

Len

[lentinman]

CUMULATIVE RANKS AND RATINGS:

Will be coming as soon as I can get to them.

Len

[lentinman]

NSOM CHALLENGE STATS:

It should be intuitive that those people who took the time to think through their picks enough to be part of the NSom Challenge would do better... on average.

There are exceptions, of course, but 5 of the top 11 (45%) were NSomniyaks despite only 29 of the 88 (33%) participating. Additionally, 9 of the bottom 11 (82%) were not Nsomniyaks.

Clearly, spending the extra time to analyze the stocks to the point of being able to present your DD to the board, is likely to give you better returns.

Len

[lentinman]

Individual Tournament Final Results

 PSL 1: No tournament 
 PSL 2: Lentinman over Digitech 
 PSL 3: Cl001 over MikeS 
 PSL 4: Cl001 over Bobwins 
 PSL 5: Cliff over Kipp 
 PSL 6: TMCal over Valuemind 
 PSL 7: Stevenrisk over Bobwins 
 PSL 8: Swick over SWB 
 PSL 9: Gilead over MikeS 
 PSL10: Bucfan over Gilead

Len

[lentinman]

All 6 Units Positive:

Here are the people who have had all six units positive for each contest to date. No one had all six positive in PSL10. 10 Bagger leads having done it four times.

ALL SIX UNITS POSITIVE

PSL1: 10Bagger, SkepticalOptimist

PSL2: Kipp, Lentinman, Linuspop, Pattydady, Pnnymn, Researcher59, RRainman

PLS3: Cl001, Mike056

PSL4: 10Bagger (2), BlueBear, Cliff, Kipp (2)

PSL5: 10Bagger (3), Nelson, Southacres, Arnie, Cliff (2), Roguedolphin, SWB173, CRKranz, JustForFun, Rsadey, WillLyons

PSL6: None

PSL7: 10Bagger (4), Fructose, Gilead, Lentinman (2), MichaelT

PSL8: Researcher (2)

PSL9: None

PSL10: None

Len

[lentinman]

Wild Card:

Only once (PSL8) were Wild Cards better than non-WCs.

                                         PSL3  PSL4  PSL5  PSL6  PSL7  PSL8  PSL9  PSL10  
 Average Wildcard Index (unweighted)     -16%  +10%  +15%  -20%  - 1%  + 4%  -30%  -50% 
 Average Non Wildcard Index (unweighted) - 6%  +14%  +19%  - 5%  + 3%  - 6%  -12%  -41%                               
 ----------------------------     
 DIFFERENTIAL IN FAVOR OF NON WILDCARD   +10%  + 4%  + 4%  +15%  +18%  -10%  +18%  + 9%

Len

[lentinman]

MSGI'S PSL HISTORY:

 PSL        1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9  10   
 Rank      40  85   -  50   9  36  65  76  14   1 
 Return %  25   9   -  10  58   2 -13 -19   6  68

Len

[lentinman]

All PSL Winners:

 PSL 1: Winner: CWS9      (+ 95.16%)     
 PSL 2: Winner: Networm   (+111.44%)     
 PSL 3: Winner: KIK       (+ 45.32%)      
 PSL 4: Winner: Bobwins   (+ 57.95%)      
 PSL 5: Winner: DanLC     (+156.22%)      
 PSL 6: Winner: Niles     (+ 35.69%)      
 PSL 7: Winner: Gilead    (+ 68.11%)     
 PSL 8: Winner: R59       (+ 40.49%)   
 PSL 9: Winner: THREES    (+ 54.52%) 
 PSL10: Winner: MSGI      (+ 68.10%)

Len

[lentinman]

High to Low Ranges:

Shown are the best and worst returns for each PSL and the range.

          BEST    WORST    DIFF     
 PSL 1   95.16%  -44.88%  140.04%     
 PSL 2  111.44%  - 9.42%  120.86%     
 PSL 3   45.32%  -32.03%   77.35%     
 PSL 4   57.95%  -24.05%   82.00%     
 PSL 5  156.22%  -27.99%  184.21%     
 PSL 6   35.69%  -31.45%   67.14%     
 PSL 7   68.11%  -29.28%   97.39%     
 PSL 8   40.49%  -33.21%   73.70%   
 PSL 9   54.52%  -56.07%  110.59% 
 PSL10   68.10%  -69.92%  138.02%

Len

[lentinman]

PSL1 - PSL10 PERCENT RETURNS:

        MEAN  MEDIAN    
        AVG%   AVG%  WINNER  #5   #10   #20   #40   
 PSL 1   28     28     95    68    62    48    25   
 PSL 2   26     22    111    89    64    44    26    
 PSL 3   -4     -5     45    21    12     5    -5       
 PSL 4   15     14     58    44    39    24    15   
 PSL 5   23     19    156    61    54    34    20   
 PSL 6   -2     -1     36    27    20    11     1   
 PSL 7    8      4     68    49    39    22     4   
 PSL 8   -3     -5     40    21    12     3    -4   
 PSL 9  -12    -14     55    22    10    -2    -1 
 PSL10  -41    -46     68    -6   -24   -36   -44

Len

[lentinman]

FINISHING POSITIVE:

Shown below are the contestants that have the best records (minimum 6 contests) in terms of finishing each contest with a positive return versus a negative return.

Guy has finished positive in all contests he has entered - which, incredibly, includes PSL10. Everyone else on the list was negative in PSL10 - including Snakeman (his first negative contest).

 Guy        7-0   
 --------------   
 Snakeman   8-1   
 --------------   
 ABH3VT     8-2   
 HWeb       8-2   
 Researcher 8-2   
 Mr. Sheep  8-2   
 --------------   
 Cliff      7-2

Len

[lentinman]

BENEFIT OF TRADES:

SSK shows the original portfolio average return as well as the average return of a portfolio (meaning with trades) each week in his Indexes report.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=34162661

Here are the results and the differential (all in favor of trading) since PSL3 with one exception - PSL9. We have no separate stats for PSL1 and PSL2, although I did another type of analysis after PSL2.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10886067

Therefore, I'm showing the differential for each PSL contest except PSL1.

        Trades  No Trades  DIFF     
 PSL 2  26.00%   16.03%   +9.97%     
 PSL 3 - 4.12%   -6.13%   +2.01%     
 PSL 4  14.54%   14.40%   +0.04%     
 PSL 5  22.70%   18.84%   +3.86%     
 PSL 6 - 1.91%   -4.01%   +2.10%     
 PSL 7   8.19%    5.36%   +2.83%     
 PSL 8 - 3.00%   -3.94%   +0.94%   
 PSL 9 -12.19%   -9.55%   -2.64% 
 PSL10 -40.67%  -42.22%   +1.57%

Keep in mind that it is harder to get the full benefit of trading in the contest vs real life because you have to do it as of a closing price versus during a day when a stock may have spiked up or down.

Len

[lentinman]

ROOKIE OF THE CONTEST (ROTC):

 Riskanalyst  #12 -25.94% 
 Kozuh        #25 -38.06% 
 Stanley01    #45 -45.79% 
 Rocketeer    #61 -49.26% 
 SamNotSamuel #63 -49.53% 
 GWMan        #78 -55.63%

Here are the ROTC's for each of the contests after PSL1.

 PSL 2: Networm        # 1  +111.44%     
 PSL 3: StyleCounciler # 5  + 21.23%     
 PSL 4: Bluebear       # 4  + 44.23%     
 PSL 5: Just4Fun       # 4  + 61.20%     
 PLS 6: Skidos         #22  +  8.69%     
 PSL 7: Northernlight  # 7  + 45.31%     
 PSL 8: Littlefish     # 2  + 25.24%   
 PSL 9: Manny          # 9  + 11.96% 
 PSL10: RiskAnalyst    #12  - 25.94%

What I find interesting is that just about every contest has had a Rookie placed quite high. That would have seemed highly improbable, but there it is.

In any event, anyone considering PSL who has not participated in PSL1-10 need not be intimidated. Simply apply the fundamental values that we adhere to and you should have a good shot a doing quite well.

Len

[lentinman]

Stocks per price group:

Each group has hundreds of stocks within it, so the sample size is very large. The differential between the worst group ($3.00-$4.99) and the best group ($5.00-$9.99) is 5.62% - probably meaningful. The $5-10 group has had better returns 8 of the 10 contests.

Shown below are the 10 contests and the returns for each price group in each contest.

Percent gain/loss per contest:

 PSL CONTEST  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10  CUMULATIVE  
 $0.25-0.99  14  31 -16   8  37 -11  -9  -4 -20  -48    0.31% 
 $1.00-2.99  26  13 - 7  11  14 -15  -3  -6 -12  -45   -0.73% 
 $3.00-4.99  13  12 -10   6  16 -10   8  -9 -18  -48   -3.93% 
 $5.00-9.99  34  20 - 3  23  13   1  -1  -7 -13  -41    1.69%  
 $10.00+     17   5 - 0  16  10   4   3  -1 -12  -36   -1.89%

Len

[lentinman]

VICTORY MARGIN:

This is the largest margin of victory by percentage of any PSL contest. Interestingly, second place on this list was from PSL9.

 PSL10 MSGI       +18.14% 
 PSL 9 THREES     +17.17%     
 PSL 3 Knowledge  +16.52%     
 PSL 8 Researcher +15.25%     
 PSL 1 CWS9       +11.14%     
 PSL 4 Bobwins    + 6.63%     
 PSL 6 NilesCrane + 5.09%     
 PSL 7 Gilead     + 3.75%     
 PSL 2 Networm    + 3.24%     
 PSL 5 DanLC      + 1.61%

Len

Len

[Mattu]

Congrats! Added your subscription win on to your account.

[gilead23]

Congrats MSGI

Anyone who even had a positive return in that environment let alone an enormous one deserves some serious kudos.

[Threes]

Way to go MSGI,
I would have been thrilled to even be in positive territory.

[MSGI]

Thanks yield. I was sure glad that the contest ended when it did because I'm sure that had it gone much longer, you would have passed me. I don't think that the other contestants know how close you got on Friday morning when both RIC and NXG were at their HOD prices. I'm sure SSK knows, but I would guess that you were within a few percentage points of taking the lead. Happy Holidays to you too.

[yielddude]

MSGI, congratulations!

Great demonstration of making money in this market on minimal trading. Thought I might have a chance to catch you, but ran out of time. Hope you have a great Holiday season.

yield

[lentinman]

PSL 10 post contest stats.

I will be posting all the usual stuff as soon as I can.

Len

[Knowledge is King]

len, are you going to post the cumulative standings for all the PSLs, like you've done in the past?

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=31840587


Thanks again to SSK and yourself for all your hardwork on the PSLs. Also, I think you mentioned you're now doing a blog...care to post a link?

[bbotcs]

SSKILLZ1 and LENTINMAN: Thank you for another great contest.