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Oh Mr. Tibbs that might be very very difficult now that Barrick has said that mining Pascua Lama and that they will not be moving forward with any mining. They never ever mentioned that they don't have title. Funny only two players for Pascua in Chile that would be JL and Barrick. Barrick is saying bye bye so who is left standing......The Embezzler..... the conman the well you get the picture. Maybe JL has been telling the truth for the last 20 years. I mean his story has never changed and Barrick has changed company ownership within Barrick. They have had glacier problems. They have had environmental problems. They have had management issues and have changed personnel in those positions. They have had every excuse as to why they can't mine Pascua. Imagine that and to date have never mined one ounce of any mineral. Barrick definitely has problems in Chile.....
If you only had one little inkling of what the original post said you could be dangerous. I was not talking about JL I was talking about MSX just read the post!!!!! If you knew the Barrick JL story you would understand what JL was saying. So surprising that in your words JL has NEVER WON a court case so that must mean that Barrick has won all yet they have not mined one ounce of gold, silver or copper. Ya things will be getting very exciting once your beloved Barrick will announce mining plans in Chile and they have re-purchased all of the equipment to go mining in Chile. Now that would be a game changer......LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are too late....It already happened
One thing that we definitely know 100% is that no matter what is stated is that Barrick definitely does not have title to mine in Chile at Pascua Lama. If they did they would have been mining long ago. They have the money they have the expertise, they have all of the equipment (yes they have sold it off). So being that Barrick does not have title, so who does???
Hmmm what court case is taking so long oh let's see how about we start with the BCSC fake witness that testified in Vancouver and spewed all lies. Now asked to recant the lies in Chile and after 9 calls to court still no appearance. Now word has it he is in Brazil running and running. Yup another life destroyed. There you go Mr EARS!!!!!!
Yes he does we were not discussing title we were discussing why the court is taking so long and how it is destroying lives. Really wish you would read!!!!!!
You do understand the enemy that they are fighting dont you. Because if you do then you will understand WHY??? this is dragging on so long. This is so big that the BCSC called in a false witness just so that they could have the ability to prove their case. Their witness lied and perjured himself so bad that when he was called to the Chile court to recant his Vancouver testimony he left the country. So if they can get people to lie and destroy their lives there is nothing that is out of reach for them. The witness has been called 9 times and has not appeared. The Police have told the courts that the witness went to Brazil and is hiding out there. So this witness is only one of many many people. Look at the Barrick SLW deal and the BCSC knew it was all fraud and had them change the wording so that they would approve it. So all of Barrick knows SLW knows , the BCSC and the OSC both know. So the more info you add to this scenario the more people know and the bigger it gets. This is why it is still going on.
Oh Tibby, Tibby Tibby you know that has nothing to do with Alice or MSX and that MSX is not on trial in Chile. That is a Chile court justice problem. The court has called Ossa 9 times and Ossa has not appeared. Really makes one wonder WHAT is Ossa hiding and why they have him out of the country. Makes you wonder if he was to tell the truth what kind of damage would be done. Seems that the BCSC has rested their whole case against MSX in Canada on the testimony of Ossa. Guess the fact that Ossa is so scared to testify in Chile that the whole testimony in Vancouver is all lies. So if the testimony in Vancouver is all lies that must mean that the BCSC has no case against MSX or BJ. Sure seems that the whole case is built on lies and fabrication. Go figure all of the people supporting the lies and fabrication. Really makes you wonder?????
Sorry Quer but you are too late Fitz has died. I thought you knew that he died a few years ago in fact BJ found paperwork showing that Fitz had made a deal with Barrick over the MSX gold properties. Sorry Quer I really thought that you knew!!!!!
Actually you are absolutely right Fitz had milked the company dry and there really was nothing in the company to salvage. So BJ took on the company to make it work and try to make a living but that only worked for alittle while. Then the BCSC made his life a living pair of hockey sticks. So just think for the last 3-4 years BJ has been scrutinized, chastized. humiliated, bullied and belittled. Yup man oh man that is really a job I would want and how about you?????
Please speak the truth because when JL was introduced to the MSX shareholders they knew what was going on and they knew what they were getting involved in. The only thing that they didnt know was the length of time that it was going to take to get it done. Why do you think that the shareholders created MSX for Justice, they wanted to get it done. So as of this date it is still not done and the battle still rages on.
Tibby it is Barrick that has said that they have all of the necessary paperwork to mine Pascua Lama. Even MTStack has now published the contract with Villar that shows Barrick in the drivers seat but yet they have not mined one single ounce. So something is definitely wrong with their story. Now on the other hand we have JL that says he has the original titles and can mine anytime. Yet as we have also seen that JL has not mined one single ounce. So they are in court and they have been in court fighting this dilema for the last 20 years. My whole point is that the last two standing is Barrick and JL. One of the last two must have title. Only the courts once the battle is over will determine who has title!!!!!!
Yes everything is absolutely in line and notorized to the letter of the law, but there really seems to be one problem. Barrick owns title yet has not mined one ounce of gold, silver or copper. Barrick tried to sell the rights for the silver to SLW but the BCSC stopped the sale because it said Pascua Lama and needed to say any of their mines. No matter what is said there still is a big problem that Barrick can not mine Pascua Lama even though it is stated that they can. Even as of today still no mention from Barrick to mine Pascua Lama and the injunction has been lifted!!!! Doesn't that tell you something??????
JL looks like it is now time for you to make your move in Chile and present your titles to the court. After all it just seems that Barrick or CMN is taunting you. Why else would they be presenting the news releases to the court to prove out false and misleading new releases...
Here is the message:
Evidence submitted by CMN re jurisdiction
CMN submitted the following evidentiary documents in the libel case C 29407-2016:
Pablo Gajardo Zuniga, attorney, in representation of Company Minera Nevada SpA., … rol C 29407-2016, to this Court I respectfully state:
For the purpose of establishing that the publication attributed to my client was made in Canada, which is the basis for the exception of incompetence at issue, I request this Court to accept the accompanying documents with citation:
1. Record of diligence signed by the Notary Public of Santiago, Mr. Roberto Cifuentes Allel, dated August 17. 2018, in which the publication attributed to my client is certified, which is available on the website http://www.barrick.com.
2. Translation into Spanish of Barrick’s news release attributed to my client, entitled in English “False and Misleading Press Releases issued by Mountain-West Resources, Inc.” and in Spanish, entitled “Falso y enganoso comunicado de presna de Mountain-West Resources, Inc.”
3. Record of diligence signed by the Notary Public of Santiago Mr. Robert Cifuentes Allel, dated November 25, 2019, in which it is certified that the Host Advice page indicates that the domain of the publication attributed to my client is in the United States.
4. Record of diligence signed by the Notary Public of Santiago Mr. Robert Cifuentes Allel, dated November 25, 2019, in which it is certified that the Ishostedby website indicates that the IP and DNS of the publication attributed to my client is in Toronto, Canada.
5. Record of diligence signed by the Notary Public of Santiago Mr. Robert Cifuentes Allel, dated November 25, 2019, in which it is certified that the page Check-Host indicates that the location of the IP of the publication attributed to my client is in the United States.
6. Record of diligence signed by the Notary Public of Santiago Mr. Robert Cifuentes Allel, dated November 25, 2019, in which it is certified that the Whois Domain Tools page indicates that the location of the IP of the publication attributed to my client is in California, United States.
7. Record of diligence signed by the Notary Public of Santiago Mr. Robert Cifuentes Allel, dated November 25, 2019, in which it certifies the direct link to the publication attributed to my client.
8. Press release entitled “Mina Pascua is Owned by Jorge Lopehandia”, dated November 1, 2011, issued in Vancouver, Canada, by Mountain-West Resources, Inc.
9. Spanish translation of the press release by Mountain-West Resources, Inc., issued in Vancouver, Canada, dated November 1, 2011, that is entitled in English “Mina Pascua is Owned by Jorge Lopehandia” and in Spanish is entitled “Jorge Lopehandia es el dueno de Mina Pascua”.
10. Press release entitled “Progress Report on Mina Pascua, Chile”, dated December 8, 2011, issued in Vancouver, Canada, by Mountain-West Resources, Inc.
11. Translation in Spanish of the press release by Mountain-West Resources, Inc. Issued in Vancouver, Canada, dated December 8, 2011, entitled in English “Progress Report on Mina Pascua, Chile” and in Spanish is entitled “Reporte del progreso en Mina Pascua, Chile”.
THEREFORE,
To this Court I ask, accept the accompanying individualized documents, with citation.
~
Below I describe the evidence listed above:
The Notary describes and certifies that he downloaded the following press release from Barrick’s website (1 & 2 above) https://www.barrick.com/English/news/news-details/2011/False-and-Misleading-Press-Releases-Issued-by-Mountain-West-Resources-Inc/default.aspx
The Notary describes, with attached screenshots from the websites mentioned, and certifies that the domain, location of the IP and DNS of the publication resides either in the United States or in Toronto, Canada (4 thru 6 above).
The Notary certifies that the image of the press release inserted in the report identically corresponds to the website indicated and the downloaded document (7 above).
Link to November 1, 2011 press release (8 & 9 above) https://www.sedar.com/GetFile.do?lang=EN&docClass=8&issuerNo=00009237&issuerType=03&projectNo=01818262&docId=2991865
Link to December 8, 2011, press release (10 and 11 above) https://www.sedar.com/GetFile.do?lang=EN&docClass=8&issuerNo=00009237&issuerType=03&projectNo=01838593&docId=3020686
Here is the link also:
https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard?symbol=c.mwr&postid=30487183
Why not put the shoe on the other foot and why don't you ask Barrick Gold Corporation the same questions.
It has been 20 years with countless news releases as to how and what they were going to do at Mina Pascua, then it was Pascua Lama and then it was glaciers then it was environmental and then it was sold out to Rangold.
Gee their strategy is working really, really well isn't it......
Now as far as a legal team Barrick Gold has the finest legal team money can buy and that is one reason why it is still going on. It is not going to end the way they want it too so drag it out a little longer. So please go and ask Barrick and see what they tell you the reason that they are still heading to court? Maybe even ask now that they have managed to lift the injunction when they will go mining after all they now have clear and clean title to do what they want....Right???? Or is it?????
Then do your thing with JL and stop dancing on Alice. She is just trying to help and no one needs you degrading her efforts. From what I am told the ex shareholders love her and totally appreciate the battle she has inherited and the battle still yet to come. So do everyone a favor and bash JL.
And you say that you are a long time shareholder of MSX. I am highly doubting it now. If you were, you definitely would not be posting such rude comments.
Tibbs no matter what I say is absolutely irrelevant to the story from Chile. Now you do know that Barrick has an absolutely endless stream of money in Chile.... Just look and see who is on their International Advisory board from Chile!!!! Got it now you know where the money comes from to pay for any decision that is request in the Chile court system. He probably holds 1 or 2 mortgages of a judge or 2 that might owe you know a favor or you know a favorable mortgage or rate or no mortgage you know how that goes. Just a little favor!!!!! So in my opinion it is absolutely admirable what JT and JL or working to accomplish. Now if what JL says is true and when the truth does come out that will be interesting. I really do think they are telling the truth because of the length of the fight and the fact that Barrick has not mined one ounces. I think the biggest was the river of sludge coming down the mountain with Barrick squealing on it self for environmental damage, Yup OOOPPPSSSS, ya right!!!!!!
It really does not matter how you cut it or flower it up Barrick has had as many false and misleading press releases as in MSX. Now remember JL won back in 2006 and then Barrick because that could not be known sued the judge on the decision. Therefore no announcement and no need for a true news release. This fight has been carrying on ever since.
Bottom line is no one is producing an accurate and upto date title on the property. There can only be one title and JL says he has it. Barrick says that have all of the necessary paperwork to mine and yet have not.
Who do you believe.... At this point they are all liars until proven.
I just look forward to who can prove it first
If you do in fact understand the beast and the battle then you will understand why this fight is on going. One thing that we do not know is if the press releases were false and misleading. Barrick has put out the same as it turns out now false and misleading press releases and they are still trading. I believe that they are so afraid of this that when they did the deal with Rangold it turned into a sort of reverse take over. All of the Barrick executives have scurried away and abandoned the ship. So just think why would they do that??? This story is far from over and now you have the BCSC with their panel of judges and they buy and pay for a Mining expert from Chile to read a script that they have prepared. Why is the BCSC protecting Barrick?? You all know now that the BCSC knew about the fraud at Pascua Lama because when Barrick did the SLW deal they changed the wording to silver from Pascua Lama to the silver from any mine. The only reason they would do that is because they knew what was going on.
Now for RG I don't know what or why the hold up but from what I have managed to find out was it has to do with paperwork and getting it translated. Once that is complete then we should see some sort of action....We all hope!!!!!
Just a question wondering why on a defunct company that has had it's CEO removed by the BCSC and now has an individual step up to help aid this faultering, dismal company try and proceed to recovery that you would chastise her. Shareholders get absolutely no information from BJ when he was there and now I am told since she came on the shareholders are getting information. So what has she done to you to provolk your rather. You probably know more about the OSSA situation than she does so what gives???
Here is the post that MTStack has posted:
JL did not allow the injunction to be lifted. He had no say in the matter. The injunction was lifted by the court because 1) the court case which applied the injunction was completed and decided for the defendant through all levels of the judiciary; and 2) JL lost his appeal to keep the injunction in place.
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So let's see for 20 years the injunction could not be lifted and now due to a court miracle it is lifted. But that is not the issue here. The issue is the fact that Barrick now with the injunction lifted and there is no plan to mine???? Gee any idea WHY??? I wonder why no one has seen the titles that Barrick says and have stated they have to go mining. I wonder why they cause all of the environmental damage and then squeelled on themselves.
BCSC is no longer “arguing” about jurisdiction. It has already been decided that the Chilean courts do NOT have any jurisdiction over the BCSC.
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No the BCSC is no longer arguing over jurisdiction but their fake witness is on the run from the Chile Court system. I wonder what was so terrifying that a lawyer would disrespect the legal system and not show up to testify and repeat what he said at the hearing in Vancouver... Could it possibly be all lies or maybe a script that just had to be read drawn up and prepared by the BCSC......Hmmmm
Mr. Ossa was not a “fake” witness, nor did he ever claim to be a mining expert. His credentials prove that he is an expert in Chilean law and that his knowledge includes mining law.
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Nope not a fake witness and this is absolutely the reason that Ossa is on the run from the very legal system he worked for.... Nope nothing to hide here folks...
CMN owns Los Amarillos 1-3000 and the Tesoro concessions, plus over 300 other concessions in the PL Protocol. JL owns no properties, nor has he won any of his lawsuits in Chile. JL has nothing but bluster. Neither Barrick nor BCSC have anything to prove to JL nor to the Canadian authorities. If JL wants a “showdown”, he should sue both of them in Canada.
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Yes CMN owns as this was transferred right after the injunction was lifted. So they really didnt own the concessions but yet they have put news releases out that they had all of the necessary titles and paperwork to go mining. Yet year to date no mining operation and no plans to mine. They own but can't mine so actually what do they own????
I wonder what company owned the property when they did the self inflicted environmental damage to the property. Maybe this way they can say oh no we didn't do the damage we are now the new owners and still have no plans to mine...
Yup go figure......
Actually I am not saying that at all. MWR/MSX press releases and Barrick Gold were issuing press releases on the same piece of gold, silver and copper rich property. JL says he put the injunction in place and after 20 years for some miraculous reason the injunction has been lifted. JL says he allowed it yet his name does not appear anywhere in the injunction. The only thing we know for sure is that the injunction has been lifted. Yes after all this with no injunction Barrick who fought so hard still has no plans of mining. So either MSX or Barrick has false and misleading press releases. So the fact that the BCSC has been drug into this fray and is in court in Chile. But the BCSC is arguing with the Chile court that you have no jurisdiction over me. The BCSC even called a false and misleading mining expert into their hearings. So the fact that the BCSC uses a fake witness to bring the hammer down on BJ and MSX makes this whole case suspect. What the BCSC or any exchanges should have done was to halt both and get to the truth of the matter as to who has title to mine. But no they did not and here we are 20+ years later having the same conversation as to WHY???? and WHO HAS TITLE!!!! JL says numerous times for Barrcik or BCSC to bring their titles to the RCMP and loser goes to jail. This has NEVER been done!!! Ever wonder as to WHY NOT?????
Well I can tell you that NO ONE had the understanding of the beast that they were up against. No one understood the time that this was going to take to get to this point. So 15 years ago when you bought just curious what was your motivating factor to buy? It sure wasnt Mina Pascua and JL. So please let me know how did you come to buy in.
Now if you have been following this and if you understand what has and is happening in Chile then you will understand what has happened year to date and it has been a long long uphill battle. Guess what it still is not over....
News announcement:
Rocco is officially onboard
https://www.sedar.com/GetFile.do?lang=EN&docClass=8&issuerNo=00009237&issuerType=03&projectNo=02998164&docId=4637732
MOUNTAINSTAR GOLD INC.
#109 – 14950 Thrift Avenue
White Rock, BC
V4B 2J9
N E W S R E L E A S E
MOUNTAINSTAR RETAINS ROCCO GALATI
December 5, 2019 – Vancouver, BC - Mountainstar Gold Inc. (“the Company” or
“Mountainstar” or “MSX”) announces that it was ordered permanently cease traded on April 9th
of 2019 as a result of a British Columbia Securities Commission (“BCSC”) decision.
In January of this year, MSX retained Mr. Rocco Galati of Toronto, who has been going through
all of the extensive material. Mr. Galati has already filed the notice for leave to appeal to the
British Columbia Court of Appeal.
Recently, Brent Johnson and an associate flew to Toronto and spent two full days with Mr.
Galati in his office going over all the material related to the BCSC decision. Mr. Galati is in the
process of perfecting the leave to appeal from the BCSC.
Additionally, Mr. Galati initiated a discussion regarding the possibility of commencing other
proceedings for damages toward all those involved.
For further information, please contact Mr. Steve Holt, Director of Mountainstar Gold Inc.
Have your point but the court case is not over. Once it is over then you will are what awards are presented.
MSX is not trading by design in conjunction with Barrick and the BCSC. Their thought was to stop MSX and then the funds to JL would stop. Because if you look at Barrick in all of the press releases on Pascua Lama is all false and misleading, no different than what they went after MSX for.
If the BCSC was the governing body that they are supposed to be they would have halted both Barrick and MSX. The fact that MSX was halted goed to show you how bad the fraud is, n'cest pas!!!!!
Please enlighten us on what the heck you were right about because it really seems that you have been wrong all along. Let's see Barrick has not mined one ounce and we have both said it is a title issue. So Barrick has carried on this fraud for the last 20 years. So every news release about Pascua Lama since 1997 has been false and misleading. Then this is a good one, someone sent all of the Chile court info to the BCSC complaining about MSX and their false news releases, remember that???? The only thing was they had no idea that the BCSC was complicite in the fraud and knew everything about it. The BCSC is in so deep that in the fixed Hearing in Vancouver they present false and misleading info with a non existent fake expert witness. Yup you gotta wonder about it don't you???????
Now the lawsuits against Barrick will begin the first union is for $3 billion, nope you agree no fraud here RIGHT????????
More lawsuits to come and more info to come!!!!
Tibby all the court issues in Chile are not done so if they havent finished then there would be no award. Once it is done then we will see.
Can you please point out all of the news releases that Barrick has sent out with the game plan to mine Pascua Lama. Gee I think that has been every 2-3 years since 1997. Guess what nothing but nothing has happened. Welcome to your alternate universe. So now Barrick is being sued in Toronto for $3 billion because of Pascua Lama for false and misleading info. Just wait until the info is produced and the tell tale signs of the immense fraud comes forward. Time is ticking on and Barrick's time is up......
Again Tibby if the BCSC is part of the fraud and they are the ones saying that the news has to be retracted. They are part of it and they are the ones that set the rules on MSX and put the CTO in place. They are the ones making sure that MSX can't trade or raise money. The BCSC called a hearing panel and stacked the deck in their favor and to do one more they bring in a fake witness as an expert.
Yup Tibby this was all against MSX.
Tibby what makes you think that the new releases were fabrications?? So are you believing the fact that the BCSC and Barrick are saying that they are??The fact that they are both in the Chile court defending themselves speaks volumes.
How about the possibly it is a fraud on behalf of Barrick and the BCSC is all part of the party. How about it was designed to halt MSX and bankrupt MSX to stop the funds from JL exposing their racket.
How about that????
BARRICK KNEW IT COULD NOT MEET THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLAN
Already back in May 2015 Barrick knew it could not meet the environmental criteria that they agreed too.
A meeting called “Town Call” held on May 8, 2015, in which Barrick's offices in Santiago, Easter (Chilean side of the project in the mountain range), Vallenar, and the offices in Alto del Carmen and San Juan (Argentina), with Senior Vice President Pascua Lama and Executive Director Barrick Chile until July 2015, Eduardo Flores Zelaya and Executive Director of Pascua Lama until April 2018, Sergio Fuentes, revealed that the highest executives of the mining company had Already at that time clear knowledge that the Pascua Lama project could not meet the environmental requirements to which it had committed.
Barrick has been deceiving the world from every angle possible. I wonder when they are really going to come clean and let the world know that they don't have title.
This is disgusting:
It can be seen that senior executives in the privacy of the company and away from any communication and legal strategy are able to accept what the communities of the Huasco Valley have been claiming for many years: that Barrick did not fulfill his environmental commitments, and what is worse, in a malicious way, with full awareness.
More specifically, in terms of Glacier Monitoring, the statements show that executives are aware that they were at risk of breaching, so the arguments that are aired at the communication level and in the trials before the Courts that there is no breach since it has been due to force majeure, they seem more like a spurious attempt at salvation.
More info or lies from Barrick
In fact, in his monthly results report for the month of February, Barrick said:
“Currently, the Pascua Lama project does not meet the investment criteria of the company. The company plans to carry out a reevaluation of the options for the project in 2019, while continuing efforts to reduce care and maintenance costs. ”
During his visit to the country, Bristow added:
“Chile is a friendly country for investors that encourage the development of mining projects. We believe there are interesting opportunities, especially in the El Indio region, and we will continue to work in line with our strategy of creating value for all our counterparts, including the governments and people of our host countries. ”
Oh common YKR really what does it matter. The fact is Barrick does not have title because if they did they would not invent excuses not to mine. So therefore JL must have title and that is why Barrick keeps this before the courts. There are 2 players that are fighting that is JL and Barrick. This started oveer a contract of sale that Barrick changed to $20.00. Barrick is a complete fraud and you support it.....Nice very nice!!!!!!
Nope my facts are great and the subpoenas were given and issued by the highest court in Chile, The Supreme Court of Chile and okay'd by the Supreme Court of Canada. No matter what you say that is a true fact...
Of course and that is WHY the Supreme Court of Chile issued subpoenas to the 2 fraudsters at the BCSC. I wonder why then the the Canadian Embassy signed off on it, the Supreme Court of Canada signed off and the RCMP signed off on it and it was given to the BCSC by the sheriff's department.
Yup YKR RIGHT AGAIN.....
Gee I wonder why really does not know squat. So because a lower court ruled that the BCSC is not going to be tried in Chile SOMEHOW means that they are not guilty of fraud and covering up for Barrick.
20 plus years not one ounce mined just millions or should I say billions of excuses.
Yup no Fraud here!!!!!!!!!
So if you were there then what happened????
Oh yes but of course there is..... I know the BCSC star witness has been found and will testify against JL and that will bring the house down..... Yes and after that does not happen there will be more news that will be against JL. So how does it feel being the one to keep pushing this fraud forward. To be involved in this fraud up to your eyeballs and to keep pushing.... Face it if Barrick can't come up WITH ANYTHING against JL it just is not there......LMFAO!!!!!!
Oh yes sure of course it is I mean this has been going on since 1997 and they are still building the case against him as we speak.... Oh please ya we all believe that so oh yes monumental or maybe just mental.....
Right on !!!!!!!
Of course and that is WHY their star witness is a fugitive from justice. Nope but you are right their case is absolutely not falling apart. I mena the info you have provided is ROCK SOLID yup sure is LMFAO!!!!!!