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Just curious if it is proven in a court of law that Barrick has not at any point in time had title to Mina Pascua in Chile and that Lannos defrauded the Chilean Government with his claims for Barrick. That would mean that Barrick has lied for 25 years about what they had in Chile. Do you not think that Barrick should be halted and investigated. Just wondering!!!!!!
WOW, otta go Tibby you are nailing all of the points. I totally agree with you. The title needs to be settled in Chile and the court needs to decide. Once that decision is made then the TSX and the NYSE have to definitely halt Barrick, then Silver Wheaton and maybe Royal Gold. The giddy up let's go.
Good to hear from you again Tibby, I also heard the Llanos was a no show in court and that the judge was not impressed, especially when the word in court that Llanos was on vacation about 1.5 hours away. From that the judge will make or has made a decision and apparently it will not be good for Barrick or Llanos. I also heard that the government is getting involved in this fraud and more and more higher ups are starting to pay attention to this dilemma. If this is in fact the case there should be some very interesting news coming out of Chile in the days/weeks to come.
Yup, I totally agree with that. I hear they are making progress but I dont see it.
Barrick created the environmental landside and then they proceeded to tell the Chile government what they did so there was no choice but to shut it down. So Barrick causes it and then they squeal on them selves. That begs the question why would they do that??? Could be no title??? Shut it down because if they can't mine it then no one can. Barrick is just brutal.
It seems if you dont have title to mine then you have nothing left but to close it. If this is in fact the world richest mine it would make no sense for Barrick to close unless you dont have the title to mine it.
OH CAPTAIN CAPS LOST THE CAPS...GUARANTEED AT LAW!!!! and now becomes CAPTAIN DIARRHEA of all the posts and they just keep coming with not much to say absolutely no knowledge of what is going on just lots of slander and diarrhea posts.
Unbelievable come forward when you have something to show other than diarrhea...
OH YES CAPTAIN CAPS.... MR GUARANTEED AT LAW!!!!! TO WHICH NOTHING BUT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED GURANTEED AT LAW!!!!! BRUTAL......
From what I understand there is only going to be one question and that is show Barrick's title for Mina Pascua. I am not sure that he can answer this question and or also show the title. This will be very interesting.
NO TITLE! NO TITLE! BUT THE MENTAL MIDGET WON'T STOP!
Apparently according to the court the mental midget does have TITLES as they have been submitted.
According to the lawyers for CMN
"On the contrary, the plaintiff focused his evidentiary activity exclusively on the dispute over the property of Pascua Lama Chile, submitting certificates of ownership of mining properties whose ownership is not being disputed in this case, and a history of previous lawsuits that have been already completed"
Imagine that you were wrong again.
This is a deep state or central bank operation which as was stated before is a real David and Goliath situation. No matter how this gets sliced up there is corruption at every level of this operation. You have the Canadian Government involved starting with Brian Mulroney plus the BCSC and the OSC and of course Barrick Gold which is the gold agent for the Central Bank. Now you have Chile involved with the government corruption. The Chile Government is so corrupt that they made a deal with Argentina that made Pascua Lama a virtual country so there were no taxes due. You the add in the banking operation through Luksic plus the corrupt legal system. You can even add Claro & Co into the mix where a non qualified mining lawyer is not qualified to be a witness and testify but is now allowed and that is ok because they say so. Now we wait again and see if the Chile court system is also corrupt and sees the same picture as everyone else. There is only one point that I really need to understand and I have having hard time with. Why with all of the money and corrupt power behind this mission is Barrick not mining. They have the money and they have the power to set all of the rules. So seriously what is stopping them from mining?????
Oh so you got stung with good ole Mike Fitzgerald. Yup I remember that and also I remember Brent tried to sue to get the money back. Too bad he lost, you might not of went broke.
Sorry to hear that.
Ya know Mike I am very sorry but I really do have a lot of issues with your post. First off Jorge NEVER took money from MSX. All the money given to Jorge was purely voluntarily by MSX. Also as a shareholder everyone who was at the AGM meeting introducing Jorge was given the same story that is still being given today. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Nothing. So the fact that money was given never stolen. No money was ever stolen. In fact why do you think that none of the shareholders have taken legal action against MSX. Think about that for a moment. By the way MSX has been delisted and kicked to the curb. Never ever does both a CEO and a company suffer such a harsh decision by the regulators. Any idea why? So this story still carries on and will continue until it is concluded. The only time that this story will end for MSX is if Barrick starts a mining operation on Mina Pascua. Then this is over. The fact that Barrick has done so much environmental damage to the site, plus self reported their activity to the authorities. This report lead to the closure for Barrick. Does this NOT tell you something???? Barrick had no plans of mining this site. Any idea why??? Could be NO TITLE, because if they had title they would be mining!!!!!!
Exactly but they have a problem and that is the great awakening. The people are starting to wake up and see the corruption. Look at the elections around the world and the cheating to put their people in place. This is now starting to fail. All of the policies that they are trying to push forward and now they are failing. This is along ways from being over. Their system is starting to crumble.
That could be but I think that a better word is corruption. This is at all levels of government and possibly a manipulated court system.
It might be but there is alot going on right now. We should know alot more soon.
Tibby what a great post so true and to the point. If you think back the fight was over title that Barrick has said that they had but they really didnt have, Once the injunction was lifted they quickly move to transfer the title which brought up an employee or not an employee for transfer. Year to date Barrick has not mined a single ounce so there is definitely a problem as to why they can't mine. They create an environmental nightmare and get suspended so they can have another reason not to mine. In fact they report the spill on themselves. What company would do that, only Barrick, Now as we all know Barrick had to stop the money going to Jorge to stop the truth from coming out in Chile. In comes the BCSC to save the day and bring in a non expert lawyer to promote as their shining star expert. This was done on purpose as Zolnay said in the appeal, this is our panel these are our rules and this is our expert. Which means this is our kangaroo court and we will do what we want. Nothing fair here folks. So as it stands the BCSC had to have this happen. First they need Brent out of the way because he was the one raising the money and supporting Jorge. Done Brent can not be associated with any publicly traded company or hold shares. They have crucified him. But what if MSX can come up with another person that has the same views as Brent and ends up supporting Jorge. The BCSC and Barrick could not allow that so they went the next step and delisted MSX and wanted to make sure that the company was dead and gone so it could not fund Chile. The BCSC as much as their ads say we support the investor do not. They never did and never will. The evidence is here that they support Barrick and Barrick gets a free pass. Now they have the problem in Chile with international exhortos and will they be fulfilled and demanded to appear. If this happens this will not work out well for them. If anyone thinks that this is over please think again. The deep state and the central bank are flexing their muscles. There is alot more at play here. This is world power at its finest.
Enjoy the show....
MSX should have already been trading if the court would do their job. The BCSC set up a kangaroo court with their panel and their rules. MSX was granted an appeal and now the court should make a decision that the BCSC and Ossa fabricated lies against MSX. MSX should get the go ahead to trade. Still waiting!!!!!
That would be the $64,000 question, especially when you look at the fraud and corruption. The fight is on all levels from Chile political leaders, Luksic, the BCSC, the OSC, the RCMP and the Canadian government. No wonder 20 years later the battle still rages on. Now it has added another twist of corruption and that is with Claro & Co with Ossa. Who knew that this was all connected????
The reason that Barrick destroyed the property is because they dont own it and their gig is almost up.
If last Thursday is a win then MSX will resume trading and there will damages and penalties put forward. If they win against Claro the whole fraud will be exposed and the judicial system will need to go back to the beginning to see how and why and who was bought off to make it happen. This part is a big IF..
Right now we wait to see what the judges say about the BCSC. We are also waiting on what the judges say in Chile about Claro, Ossa and the BCSC.
Hurry up and wait!!!!!!
We do not know if they won and will not until the judge makes a decision. Yes the battle still rages on in Chile and probably will for alittle while yet. October will be a very interesting month.
As I have said from the beginning that this was a kangaroo court and a total witch hunt. The whole purpose was to shut down MSX and to stop the funds from going to Chile. They needed to cover up their crimes in Chile and they have until now. They are in trouble in Chile and they know it.
I totally agree. Zolnay seemed to be grabbing at straws and running on a hope and a prayer. When you listen to Galatti you realize that it actually was a kangaroo court. The court was set up where they did all of the talking and no one else could testify for Brent or MSX. They did not want to hear it period. This was a set up to shut down MSX and stop the money going to Chile to fight in court. It really boggles my mind how you get posters asking where did the money go?
Let's see what happens.
I feel your pain as I am also still working. You do know that you could watch the proceedings live on zoom. So you could be part of it if you want to be.
WELL TODAY IS THE DAY!!!!!
Today MSX goes to court with the BCSC and find out if MSX will be trading again.
I find it very interesting that now the truth comes out that Ossa was not an expert in mining law in Chile. The most interesting part is the fact that Ossa was a PAID INFORMANT!!!!! Yes exactly he was paid by the BCSC to LIE!!!! They need to halt MSX and they needed to stop MSX from funding the fight in Chile. NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE TRUTH!!!!!
In Chile the head partner of Claro testified :
Santiago, September 26, 2022, the absolution hearing of Nicolas Luco Illanes was held, with the assistance of Mr. Juan Guillermo Torres Fuentealba
Now what was said was astonishing, here is a part of it:
Is it true that Claro & Co. received fees from the BCSC for the provision of services performed by OSSA with respect to the AFFIDAVIT and deposition in Canada?
Yes, it is true.
OSSA AND CLARO WERE PAID BY THE BCSC.
They will do anything to stop MSX LIES, LIES and MORE LIES.
Hope to see you this morning in Court. LET'S GO......
Mikey please please explain to me your comment "Again with "TIME WILL TILL " .
What the heck does that even mean????? You obviously have no idea how big this enemy is..... TOO BAD!!!!!
Tibbs again you just have to think for a second of the enemy that is being faced and the power that they have. This is truly a David and Goliath story that has not ended. I do believe that the end is coming very soon though. Time will tell....
OH Tibby here you go again. Man oh man where do you really come up with this stuff. Fantasy land all over again or dream land what ever....
Chile court today - Word has it that it was an intense question and answer period that went on for around 6 hours. What they tried to accomplish failed which will really make tomorrow very interesting. They are fastly running out of ammunition. Let's watch the next move.
Sorry Tibby but you really have no idea, do you!!!
Well Tibby we can agree to disagree. JL told Brent the story and Brent took it to the shareholders. If you were a shareholders back in 2011 as I was told JL was presented to the shareholders and the shareholders were asked if this is something that they would support. The shareholders agreed and this process moved forward. Thee shareholders understood the risk and were willing to fight the battle. I dont believe that anyone thought that it would take this long. But if you understand the enemy then you can understand how deep the corruption is. If you look at this logically you can see the corruption. They needed to stop the funding of JL so what did they do... They got a fake witness to write a fake affidavit and present it to the BCSC. The BCSC put together a kangaroo court and halted MSX threw the book at BJ and forced MSX to be delisted. They needed to stop the flow of money. This became a huge problem for them because JL moved forward and so did MSX. They have now proved that Ossa was a fake expert and that they all lied. This is still moving forward and they are wanting to stop it.
Tibby you are actually ask the wrong person these questions. All of the questions have nothing to do with him. All of the questions are for the MSX board of directors and Brent Johnson. But at this time they are irrelevant as Brent is no longer the head of the company and has been banned by the BCSC to have anything to do with MSX. So right now you might be able to contact a board member and ask these questions. Good Luck!!!!
Yes I know:
1.When is the BC appeal hearing date? I believe Sept 29
2. Is it still on? Yes it is
3.Is Galati still living to be the lawyer for MSX - Absolutely
4.Where are the funds to pay Galati coming from? Already paid for
5.If contacts to the underworld for investment monies are required let me know!
....many of these groups are looking for new ways to put their cash to work and this story may be of interest to some of these otherwise unavailable money sources. They could even bring a new leveraging scope to these proceedings. GARBAGE!!!!
Just a suggestion....................
Not much longer and I do not believe it will be another 10-20 years. I think that alot will come out very shortly. I also believe that MSX will be trading again by October and that might stretch out depending on the BCSC. This will rap up sooner than later.
NOPE, the battle still rages on. There still is alot to be uncovered and the enemy is still enjoying the fight. They though that by doing all that they did that MSX would be crippled. They were wrong. All of the antics are totally illegal and will be proven.
NOPE NOT YET. Tibbs did you not get the latest email. I heard that it was very very good and that there are alot of things happening in Chile. There should be more info coming shortly. Also there is apparently a meeting coming up but you should already know that, Right!!!!
Here we go:
Libel trial international exhorto issued
C 29407-2016
Ruling on the document dated May 18, 2022, submitted in the Virtual Judicial Office by the plaintiff’s attorney in Folio 189.
To the principal: Note that the plaintiff’s list of witnesses is presented, cited. To the first addendum: As requested, to the international exhort, with respect of the witnesses identified in Nos. 2, 3 and 4 of the preceding list, the rogatory letter will be sent to the competent court in Toronto, Canada, for the purposes of notification and conducting the testimony of the witness John Thornton…; with respect to the points Nos. 1, 2, 3 and 4 contained in the interlocutory evidence issued on October 14, 2020; and also, the Court of Vancouver, Canada, for the purposes of notification and conducting the testimony of the witnesses Peter Brady … and Roy Leon … in order to refer to points Nos. 1, 2, 3 and 4 in the interlocutory of evidence issued on October 2020, the following powers are delegated to the International Tribunal exhorted: a) Notify the witnesses referred to above; b) Receive new addresses within its jurisdictional territory; c) Receive documents to notify and delegations of power; d) Set the day, time and modality for the testimony of the witnesses referred to above; and e) In general, all the steps to fully comply with the order. To the second addendum: As requested, an extraordinary period of evidence is set for the testimony of the witnesses referred to above, in accordance with the provisions of Article 329 of the Code of Civil Procedure for a period of 20 working days. To the third addendum: Please accompany the documents with a summons. To the fourth addendum: For the receipt of testimonial evidence that will be rendered within the jurisdictional territory, and in accordance with the agenda of the Court, a special evidentiary term is set for reception of evidence from the third parties, on Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:00 a.m.
The witnesses and the judicial receiver must attend in person at the premises of the Court, the latter required to attend with all the technological means necessary for the development of the same. The others, interveners, will attend remotely.
Aint that the truth!!!!