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Do you understand the David and Goliath story, don't you? This is an absolute Goliath and epic battle that is being waged. Why for example did the BCSC strip BJ of all rights to MSX and then suspend MSX from trading. Normally you get rid of the CEO and leave the company alone. They couldn't do that because they had to make sure that BJ along with MSX could no longer perform in any capacity. Some how MSX as managed to survive to fight another day. This battle will take awhile and even at this point I am not sure how much fight is left. It will be very interesting on what happens in Chile between the government and Hermasillo.
This is coming so let's see.
Newgold do you have any opinion as to why none of the deal breaker things announced by JL or BJ have never broken through to break any deals but have rather flittered away in oblivion.
How do you feel about the constant revamped dates on when MSX will be trading AGAIN ?
Are you a Jehovah Witness ?
Just asking, as their end of humanity dates also change with the breezes of time.
But then the Jehovah's do not continually ask for cash.
Only to listen !
Again, I have no idea how many shareholders there are. I am just stating a fact that at the meetings the room is packed and no one is really complaining. Now the other issue is not sure if there have been any meetings at the Legion because all the ones I have been at are not there. Now as far as anyone doing any litigation that would be there choice but not sure after all this time it would go anywhere or be worth the time and effort. Most people who have gotten in know that this is a very long shot and they did not through all the eggs in this basket. If they did oh boy they really do have faith.
Do not mean to shock you but over these many years from the start more or less there were many people who invested that were not South Surrey residents.
How many individual shareholders do you think MSX has/had ?
More than the 30 or so attending the Legion Beer Meetings every few months.
I do not know how many shareholders are registered with the securities people on the last exchange being the Canadian Stock Exchange.
I would suspect that most have lost belief as well as any credibility in this story.
Court litigation driven investments are not overly successful and as we can all see take forever to get to any final outcome.
They are with time very expensive and as they drag on the money dries up especially in these hard times for so many people.
If after 20 years of trying to make the point without any success, the still believers must be anointed with blessed patience or moronic faith.
Hmmmm, I am not so sure because at the meetings the room is packed. I think that alot of the shareholders are in this because in the beginning it was a huge gamble with a chance of a big pay off. With that sort of gamble you definitely do not bet the bank on this investment. If you put it all then greed took over and well it is what it is. Most that I talk to have a bit in but nothing earth shattering. So if they are disgruntled I dont see it.
So just out of curiosity what are you waiting for or in a hurry to see or hear ?
I think you are wrong, so wrong on there being no disgruntled shareholders.
The majority of shareholders from 10 or more years back have long forgotten about this little play they did in greedy mode of thinking.
Asked today, they would all be somewhat pissed on the entire story, even if they have written off their MSX stock for tax credits on real gains.
Nope never got in on that funding. I got in on Fitzgerald so I have been in a long time.
Now as far as disgruntled shareholders I am not sure there are any. As far as law suits or class action I have never heard of any.
So right now it is hurry up and wait as usual.
Nope never got in on that funding. I got in on Fitzgerald so I have been in a long time.
Now as far as disgruntled shareholders I am not sure there are any. As far as law suits or class action I have never heard of any.
So right now it is hurry up and wait as usual.
There was word out that the two principles of the MSX story were looking to hire the same helicopter and ground crew and pilot as did Michael DeGuzman.
They are both looking for the appropriate landing areas as well as future addresses.
See Michael DeGuzman for forwarding mail ideas !
Long live the PIGS !
You know the ones that ate Mr. DeGuzman
Newgold I was wondering if you were among the few who put funds into MSX with the contracted promise of getting three times your bet in a few short months. It may even been weeks. It was pretty much guaranteed by Jorge.
Jorge was going to get millions from some awards in Chile for who knows what.
Any info on what became of all that.
There has to be some very disgruntled gamblers out there.
How about a bunch of law suits from some ex company officers who mortgaged the farm, literally, to get in on these bets.
Some say around $2million !!!!
Nobody should get their panties in a bunch until the original sale by Villar " supposed mining engineer of one Jorge Lopehandia " gets
annulled by the authorities in Chile.
If this ever happens with some sort of legal basis showing nefarious activities, it will fun to watch the roll out.
Trading resumption for MSX shareholders is about the same as the world's end for the Jehovah Witness folks and their teachings.
Just around the corner. Give us money and save yourselves.
After so many years of misses one would think they would adopt a more open ending to our mundane existences.
You need to believe to see the END !!!!!!!!!!
What's that you say ?
Llanos is guilty as sin on all counts and "coming in" to admit it is the very last thing he wants to do.
Perhaps he needs to find the same religion as Ossa did when he was going to spill his bean sack in the BCSC ordeals.
What religion was it again !
Mr. Lopehandia how is it that you were successful in bringing Lagos in to make a statement but can not get Unda Llanos to come into a court to answer a few simple secret questions ?
Jorge Lopehandia since Llanos has been considered confessed what were the secret questions that he confessed to ?
Can not sleep at night not knowing what these questions were. All I have are 4 old WWII movies in Spanish to put me to sleep.
JRL there was an appeal launched on the confessions of the Unda Llanos ruling. Appeal 4436-2024.
If there was no possible legal appeals acceptable how is it that this appeal was registered ?
Canadian regulators, ABX, WPM, RG, GS, JPM, all banks, to follow Credit Suisse ...
Chilean Courts have declared HUL - 100% confess, no right of appeals, no title.
The crooked local regulators, during one year did not answer the MSX legal bell, Appeals court said HE HE HE HE HE HE HE "the regulators did not want to attend"... he he he he he he "case over" .... slam dunked ...
During 6 months, they played the same sick game with me. The asset owner!
They failed 100%. My legal authority renewed for 6 months implies they all OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE in a criminal manner all this long, namely: 25 years and counting. Every year to MSX no less than 500 million should be the FINE, or merely 1% of the asset kept under contractual attack to intentional loss of payments and success, as a default.
Obstruction of justice, obstruction of business, immigration fraud, forgery, perjury, libel, theft of private and public funds, deception to Courts and Government, deception to Police, some of the "light charges awaiting the mafia et al".
There is no one legally standing that can cast any more aspersions. Check mate my regulators / ABX WPM hearties. ta ta ...
In the very least JGTORRES as well as JRLopehandia should be giving us our money back.
If this is where we are after 20 years it has become futile from lack of evidence.
Hey there I had heard from somewhere that MSX was going to be reinstated on the Board by late April 2024 . It was a slam dunk.
JTTORRES had it all under control and was going to make the authorities son and cry with guilt on their constant incredulous behavior.
Oh yes do not forget the bus loads of INTERPOL officers sent by JL to gather up the criminals.
Haha! Good rant on Barrick there Tibbs! I guess there’s nothing to complain about for MSX since it’s dead eh? Is Bent still trying to solicit money from you with some “damages should be rolling in soon” BS?
BTW, I like the title I-Hub has for Mountainstar Gold Inc (fka MSX)…
“formerly known as” Lol!
Barrick is and has been a questionable corrupt gold miner ....... forever.
This story is so old no one knows when nor how it all started. It will be swept under the CHILE MAT.
Pascua Lama is a now dead gold project for Chile producing no tax revenues with no plans to get any revenues in the foreseeable future.
Interesting for Barrick though as they seek to get some new permits for other projects in Chile ?????
The best Chile could hope for is a very large fine for Barrick for sins committed if provable ???
UNDA Llanos is the pukes name.
I want Phyllis Emery brought to THE RACK for a little stretching is what I want !
Chile does not have the Political nor Legal GONADS to push this to a point of legal stoppage in their trading on the major markets.
The Canadian Political aspect would also be involved
Just curious if it is proven in a court of law that Barrick has not at any point in time had title to Mina Pascua in Chile and that Lannos defrauded the Chilean Government with his claims for Barrick. That would mean that Barrick has lied for 25 years about what they had in Chile. Do you not think that Barrick should be halted and investigated. Just wondering!!!!!!
I can pretty much guarantee that there will be no halting of any publicly traded companies over this story. No Need.
Those of us who have been mired in these proceedings for so long are now at our final hours of earthly existence.
It may serve us to look to Judas Thaddaeus or Saint Jude the saint for all things lost in utter despair.
Believing in an outcome has become the work of the theologians.
In as much as there is possibility in Chile doing some unwanted digging into these matters it would be quite useful if they could as well identify a structured criminal intent by the CMN players.
WOW, otta go Tibby you are nailing all of the points. I totally agree with you. The title needs to be settled in Chile and the court needs to decide. Once that decision is made then the TSX and the NYSE have to definitely halt Barrick, then Silver Wheaton and maybe Royal Gold. The giddy up let's go.
Until a higher Court in Chile decides to tackle the title issues as we see them and sees a reason (read legal proof) to declare that the title Barrick, CMN, Llanos declared they had for the Pascua Lama project is nulled out, there is absolutely nothing to get excited about.
THE TIMING MAY BE RIGHT, NOW .
IT NEEDS TO COME OUT OF CHILE...........................PERIOD !
Good to hear from you again Tibby, I also heard the Llanos was a no show in court and that the judge was not impressed, especially when the word in court that Llanos was on vacation about 1.5 hours away. From that the judge will make or has made a decision and apparently it will not be good for Barrick or Llanos. I also heard that the government is getting involved in this fraud and more and more higher ups are starting to pay attention to this dilemma. If this is in fact the case there should be some very interesting news coming out of Chile in the days/weeks to come.
For some mistifying reasons Mr. Llanos seems to be rather reluctant to make court appearances that he has been requested to make. NO SHOW !
Perhaps he has been to darn busy doing other more important things like overstaking other mining properties to fill the huge void now that Barrick's Minera Nevada Pascua Lama project is Morteous Deadeous Nomorelifeous !
Perhaps this story still has legs, long legs, where Mining reporters will have a refreshed story to tell on Pascus Lama.
I for one have always had an uneasy feeling as to how Barrick / Minera Nevada delt with the title origins of their Chile Project.
Things that come from poor origins (read criminal operators as well as shady operators ) usually continue in the same path.
I am referring to Lac Minerals taken over by Barrick Gold Corporations.
Yup, I totally agree with that. I hear they are making progress but I dont see it.
Could be no title, however at the glacial pace this whole saga is going I don't think any of us will ever know the true answer....
Barrick created the environmental landside and then they proceeded to tell the Chile government what they did so there was no choice but to shut it down. So Barrick causes it and then they squeal on them selves. That begs the question why would they do that??? Could be no title??? Shut it down because if they can't mine it then no one can. Barrick is just brutal.
Unless there is 100% no work around the all the environmental concerns raised over the years...
It seems if you dont have title to mine then you have nothing left but to close it. If this is in fact the world richest mine it would make no sense for Barrick to close unless you dont have the title to mine it.
The end of the failed Pascua-Lama project is near...
https://www.northernminer.com/news/barrick-to-spend-us136m-on-closure-of-failed-pascua-lama-project/1003863396/
Please Jorge Lol
Gallati lost at law in Canada where it counts
I watched and heard the procedings with my own eyes and ears and noticed weeks later the decision was defeat
Seems lawyers got paid but just did not not bring enough evidence to the hearing At Law to win
Out of 3 judges MSX lost no ??
Did i miss something here 🤔
Also you can keep the other guy out of this
Brian ex-president of MSX for JUSTICE "gives up" after victory is at hand? Who do you defend? crook? The regulators of MSX committed forgery and perjury. You are spewing libel v. MSX, not justice and you know it.
Barrick's Chairman under arrest order if not showing up before me at Canadian Courts, the same goes for BC regulators of MSX. Silver Wheaton's top, president of the World Gold Council, crook that runs Wheaton Precious Metals and run away as SILVER WHEATON three days after my May 07, 2017 Supreme Court decision, called with his lawyer, copied by me with (Barrick's) ex-president of Chile "in trouble". You are violating Injunction C 1912-2001.
The crooks carried on like Brian here, lying to the public. May your ill attained "JUDAS $$$$" erodes to nothingness.
Nah, Tibbs ain’t dead yet. I told him a long time ago that when he packed it in he should send us all a final farewell from the other side. He enjoyed posting here more than anybody, so I’m sure he’d do it. Like just about everyone else, he’s probably come to his senses and found some other cause to occupy his attention. But just to confirm, you might want to ask his alter ego Ugliaak over on the Stockhouse board what’s up with Tibbs.
IS TIBBY STILL WITH US ??
I was told by a fellow MSX shareholder that TIBBY had passed away soon after MIKE 25 (R.I.P.).
Can any other poster who knew TIBBY confirm this fact?
TIBBY was very active on IHUB and would be missed if indeed TIBBY passed the way of the worry free!!!
If cremated did TIBBY take the worthless MSX Shares to the crematorium??
Jorge
When will you ever realize its over
MSX had their day in court with a renoun lawyer and lost
That is all
TIBBY'S OBIT
When did Tibby pass away and what was the cause of death?
Just curious about losing another poster.
DR.DIARRHEA A.K.A. ROBBING HOOD'S LAST POST!!!!
YOU and GINNY have pillaged ,embezzled and defrauded every single MSX Shareholder!
Yet you have the indecency to call out MIKE 25's girlfriend as MISGUIDED after stealing his
life savings in MSX. leaving him frustrated and despondent without any recourse to recover any
of the money invested unwittingly in your on-going fraud! This was his retirement savings!
IMAGINE THE FINANCIAL PRESSURE THAT HE WAS UNDER BECAUSE OF YOU & YOUR
EMBEZZLING PARTNER...GINNY THE GUZZLER!! Some people can take ONLY SO MUCH HURT!
HE had EVERY REASON to HATE you both. AS DO I AND MANY OTHER SHAREHOLDERS.
YOU ARE AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE LOWEST OF THE LOW!!
I must say that at your BIRTH, YOU came out of the wrong hole and smell like it to this very day!
Where are your clean and clear titles to Mina Pascua that you claim you own. PROVE IT!!
Give us a breakdown ,other than the KICKBACK to Ginny, of how you spent the defrauded $6 million+
NO CAN DO, CORRECTO??
Change the same old broken record that YOU have posted for years now,, IMET,BCSC,OSC,TSE.RCMP
JAIL SENTENCES FOR ONE & ALL!
Why did you not have me arrested as you posted over the past titless years? At least by NOW I would
have been eligible for parole N'EST-CE PAS?
Get on your short legged knees and beg MIKE 25 for forgiveness. SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR HIM ..
..YOU NO GOOD LOW LIFE! May you and Ginny both ROT IN HELL WHERE YOU BELONG!
Condolences to Mike25's misguided girlfriend there. The criminals are the local regulators and the members of LAW ENFORCEMENT called IMET - protecting Barrick 2001 to date. Alibi? Silver Wheaton WPM/TSX.
INTEGRATED (police and regulators) Market (Regulators) Enforcement (uniformed) Team = Sums up (the racket)
Thier collective Pascua Lama NI43101 of Barrick, Silver Wheaton, Wheaton Precious Metals, Royal Gold, Banks, Exchanges worldwide, are falser than the liar Affidavit of the expert in Chilean Mining Legislation of MSX criminal regulators, court confessed that he never was one. No titles are good for Pascua Lama 2009-2023. and for Mina Pascua Chile, 1996-2023. Mi first metallic mineral concessions in the history of Mining in Chile at MINA PASCUA which is not at the border with Argentina!! (THE CRIME), will obliterate the racket's second metallic mineral concessions TESOROS in my name by marginal annotation legal control 2001-2017. Regulators are criminals.
The crimes were committed 1997-2023 and shall be enforced with jail terms across the board v. the culprits.
The sale by Villar of Mina Pascua for a lump sum total of $20.00 US equivalent is still on the legal books in Chile and looks to be good.
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !
Wait a minute. Is that the FAT LADY released from the closet warming up for the swan song with JL playing the accompanying music ?
Movie .............................................. /....................................! ....................................................
Those contents in JL's admitted diplomatic pouch from Chile law must have be written in indelible, time sensitive ink.
The documents appear to be blanc.
Do dead people have a way to follow this story in their AFTERLIFE ?
Just curious if anyone has been there !
What channel would it be on?
movie at 11:00
How much time left before the Chile court requested deposition on Thornton runs out ?
Sad to hear. Truly sad it is. May he be relieved in HIS afterlife of this equally sad affair we were all to ready to get involved in.
I would think he will be on standby to haunt Mr. Lopehandia as well as Mr. Johnson when they pass.
For the rest of us we have medically assisted death to look forward to.
LET US PRAY.
MSX IS IN PROCESS OF MAKING A MAJOR ACQUISITION
MSX HAS CONFIRMED THAT MINA PASCUA IS OWNED BY JORGE LOPEHANDIA
50% JV-Ownership of Mina Pascua with Jorge Lopehandia
MSX IS LISTED ON THE CNSX EXCHANGE
(CANADIAN NATIONAL STOCK EXCHANGE)
www.cnsx.ca
** MSX is listed on the CNSX Exchange. C.MSX or C:MSX.... IHUB currently does not have the capabiltiy of reflecting stocks listed on the CNSX. They have indicated that they are working to fix this problem. **
Mountainstar Gold Inc.:
- Company Profile can be reviewed on www.sedar.com
- Company Press Releases can be reviewed on www.sedar.com
- RECENT STOCK QUOTE & NEWS : CNSX Website http://www.cnsx.ca/Page.asp?PageID=2013&AA_RecordID=389
- Link for Public Insider Information: https://www.sedi.ca/sedi/SVTWelcome?locale=en_ca&pageName=splashPage
- Link to Jorge Lopehandia's Pascua Lama Warnings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&noapp=1&v=RGaLyZSeCQ8
For reference; a map of Pasqua Lama (MWR - Mr. Lopehanida contended interest lie with Mina Pasqua on Chile side of map.)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/PascuaLamaPlanMap.png
Recent Press Release:
Mountain-West Resources receives rights for Pascua
2012-03-06 14:38 ET - News Release
Mr. Brent Johnson reports
CHILE HAS SPOKEN ON PASCUA TITLE IN 2012
Mountain-West Resources Inc.'s counsel in Chile has delivered a certificate of dominion (at this date in 2012) for the Pascua area in Chile. Barrick acquired the property from Lac Minerals when it took over Lac in 1994.
A certificate of dominion allows the holder mineral, water, mining and access rights. In this case, it is for gold, silver and copper. The ownership of the Pascua areas is in the name of Jorge Lopehandia Cortes and are unencumbered.
The TSX Venture Exchange previously halted the trading of the company in April, 2011, for almost three months and protected Barrick Gold despite documents provided.
The company invites Barrick to surrender Pascua or produce certificates of dominion currently dated on the Tesoros claim group and Los Amarillos 1-3000.
RELEVANT NEW RELEASES:
Mountain-West sues three for racketeering
Ticker Symbol: C:MWR
Mountain-West sues three for racketeering
Mountain-West Resources Inc (C:MWR)
Shares Issued 51,741,710
Last Close 1/16/2012 $0.45
Tuesday January 17 2012 - News Release
Mr. Brent Johnson reports
RACKETEERING AGAINST THE FITZGERALD LIVING TRUST, FITZGERALD WAS FORMERLY KNOWN IN THE INDUSTRY AS "MR. BARRICK" ABX
Mountain-West Resources Inc. has filed a racketeering lawsuit against three parties in the Superior Court in Pima County, Ariz. This lawsuit names, at the moment, the Living Trust of Michael Joseph Fitzgerald, his Executrix and widow Marisa Fitzgerald and one other geologist.
Mr. Fitzgerald was a geological engineer and was the co-founder of our Company with an attorney from Texas. The Company was incorporated in British Columbia in 1971 and became publicly traded on the old Vancouver Stock Exchange in August, 1974. We filed an action in the Supreme Court of BC against Mr. Fitzgerald and others on March 19, 1999, namely Action #C991486.
Through our litigation agreement in the United States, we filed a claim against Michael Fitzgerald's Goldstrike Trust in Washington State in December, 2010. Mr. Fitzgerald passed away on August 11, 2009. Our claim is in the amount of one billion five hundred million dollars ($1,500,000,000).
Some time since forming the Washington State registered Goldstrike Trust, Mr. Fitzgerald transferred the trust to Arizona and transformed it into a Living Trust.
Through our Arizona attorneys, it was determined that litigation in the United States was still open to us. The Supreme Court of British Columbia's dismissal of our lawsuit in 2005 against Michael Fitzgerald and others was ended for procedural reasons. The Company did not lose the case in court on the merits. We lost because we were not allowed "our day in court".
Winning a racketeering (RICO) lawsuit in the United States entitles the winner to triple damages. In other words, if the court awards damages of one billion dollars ($1,000,000,000), the defendant would be required to pay three billion dollars ($3,000,000,000) to the plaintiff, Mountain-West Resources Inc.
REFERENCE LINKS:
Public Documents: www.sedar.com
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascua_Lama
Poder Judicial - (best viewed with Google Chrome) http://www.poderjudicial.cl/
News & Info: Stockwatch - http://www.stockwatch.com/Quote/Detail.aspx?symbol=MWR®ion=C
MWR March 2nd News PDF (courtesy of Grand Poobah) : https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1j7-CEZauEDNjgzOTQyYmQtNWIxMS00NjA3LWE1OTUtODRjZDg5MGZjNzM5&hl=en
More to be added at another time.
*******THIS IS A SPECULATIVE STOCK. IF YOU ARE NEW TO INVESTING AND OR HAVE LIMITED KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE RISKS OF INVESTING IN TSX VENTURE, CNSX & OTC STOCKS IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE/SEEK ADVICE BEFORE INVESTING.*******
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