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49,866,174 new share count, 50 million party coming still this year!!
Next year we will get 100 million party for sure but do we get
$0,01 party for the share price?
YaSheng is another scam promoters here promote. It's gone down within 1 year from $0,20 to $0,025.
I think Siaf could do better and go sub-penny!
https://investorshub.advfn.com/YaSheng-Group-HERB-4909/
Nobody wants the control of this scam. They just want their money. And Merkur market wants to get rid of this scam. Fine is unpaid for sure. This is a no business, no assets, no money scam company.
This is completely delusional to think there is some kind of plot against them. Just sell 10% of the crazy assets portfolio if it's real and be free of all troubles. But assets aren't real. Just direct the EPS to lenders and shareholders and fix everything. But there's no EPS. It's a scam. The most obvious on this planet at the moment.
You can use 0% liquidation value for assets you don't own.
That's why the crazy portfolio of scattered ill-matching silly assets have not been sold. And never will. They can't, there's nothing for the shareholders. The market knows. The management knows.
Of course they would have sold instead diluting and defaulting and breaking promises.
Assets that can't be sold. Assets that don't create shareholder value. Assets that banks don't approve as collateral. Assets that the market doesn't believe. Assets that the management doesn't believe but rather dilute at -98,5% discount....
These are not real assets. They are on paper only. You may have gotten scammed...
It's a $0,17 stock. Assets are a lie. I think you fell asleep, there's many scams in China!
Nothing that a heavy dilution wouldn't fix! =D
This scam is breaking at it's seams..
Handla paid BTW, he is not like Siaf! Handla is honest and has money.
Thank you and Merry Christmas!
Siaf and TRW are the same scam. Same Solly, same BOD, same inability to pay out cash. It's Solomon's part2 for this scam because Siaf was losing all credibility. Both are junk currency Solly uses to keep the scam and share selling alive.
Siaf already owns 36,6% of TRW. About 1/4 of Siaf value should be attributed to that "asset".
So Siaf $9 million value divided with 4 = TRW x 0,366.
= 2,25 million.
2,25/0,366 = TRW total value.
TRW total value = $6,15 million.
That's curret market value and it's going down.
So basically we can say TRW is a busted scam as well.
If i remember correctly TRW has some 100 million shares so shareprice is:
$0,06.
So this will never ever be listed in HK, basically it's an unlisted unsellable share having a nominal value of $0,06, woohoo!
What it has been marketed to be worth? =D
All gimmicks have been used. Dilution time.
Everything else has been only talk but...
With dilution they are no-nonsense, very fast and effective!
No need to announce in advance dilution!
Can be done fast, can be done numerous times in a short period of time!
NEVER CANCELLED!
Fast straight to the point dilution! They are capable! =D
Because the money never existed. It's all fake rolling around big numbers to confuse and mislead investors. Then they send out their report with fake assets and EPS and people believe that "the money escaped shareholders this time" "but is there, they play with big amounts, right?"
No they don't. It's all a smokescreen.
After they fake with big transactions then they fake big things will come to shareholders.
Never happens.
This is how scams work.
I think they won't pay the fine. It's 70 000 euros. Stock trending down to $0,15 and below if they need to use outsider whom they issue these (sell) shares they will probably pay less than $0,10. But let's say $0,10.
That's 700 000 shares to print just for the fine. Then they need to pay some bills and make money for themselves. Expect heavy dilution or being kicked out from Merkur. If someone asks something from Merkur do ask have they paid that fine already. I doubt it.
How about dividend fraud, megaloan fraud, fake assets fraud...?
None of these interest you at all? Only promote no matter what? Why are you doing this?
This will be like YaSheng: https://investorshub.advfn.com/YaSheng-Group-HERB-4909/
SAME PROMOTERS, one year ahead. One year ago it was $0,20, now it's $0,025. Do not believe the promoters or you will lose your money! Siaf is a proven scam already. It will go down the same way. Sell while you still get something.
How about coming out from the bubble and admit it's a scam?
They tried "the only way" already. They have no money, they can't pay.
They tried to loan already, they can't get it cause banks don't believe them. They've tried press releases about (fake) megadeals, didn't lift the share. They are busted already.
You are pushing people here HARD to believe in this crap, you never pushed the company one bit.
Go file about the wrong doings and plan a tactic to retrieve your money. This what you are doing is just excuses for the management enabling them to scam investors.
He is only creating illusions, not investing. They don't destroy they own value, trust, relations to banks and markets because it's so much fun throwing away cash. The only logical explanation is it's a scam and they CAN'T get cash. No assets to sell, no real life earnings, no bank relations, no business. That's the only believable explanation that it's a scam.
The implication is they purposely mislead investors and the market and should be severely punished.
They lied about "megaloan" that is just the bit from penny stock scam video LOL, so obvious low level scamming. "Syndicate of five banks" and blabla has been written on this forum for a thousand times laughable stuff.
They lied about TRW there's absolutely nothing there didn't lift Siaf share price, didn't pay any dividends, no yield, created no trust just scamming on paper.
They lied about cash dividends, started diluting right after announcing, that's opposite of dividend diluted at least 50 cents away and didn't give even 1 cent back. Completely obnoxious scamming.
They tried Angola deal scam, share didn't react.
They are busted and hopefully get stopped soon and probably get get kicked out from the Merkur Market soon.
These guys don't have 70 000 euros for the Merkur fine, they need to dilute more than 10 million shares to get that money if they need to use outsider as buyer to throw the shares to the market. This junk stock needs really good margin to get someone buying it more. And the buyer surely sells fast.
Only an illusion was destroyed.
780 million dollar assets and hundreds of millions profits in real money don't disappear like that. Instead the illusion of them being real got destroyed because they of course can't carry themselves like a real agricultural empire worth hundreds of millions would. At some point they need to pay out money or create shareholder value. But it's obviously just a scam they can't do it.
$0,19 truth is out. All promises broken. All trust gone. Debt and dilution left. And it's going down even a lot deeper.
The market and real life is wrong because in your opinion there's no scams in China? =D
Here' the future, same scam promoters around similar scam. Big assets and revenus too. Within a year from $0,20 to $0,025. That's the road Siaf is on.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/YaSheng-Group-HERB-4909/
Lies have evaporated and $0,19 reality is left.
You can fool only so long. It really is amazing how they can claim 780 million value and all those other things on paper while in real life broke, diluting. completely untrustworthy and totally impotent to execute anything that creates shareholder value. But that's the China space and penny stock scams.
Right again.
We were talking about Siaf. They claim last quarter EPS half their market value and assets 86-times their current market value.
If their businesses and assets are even 10% true they need no funding. They have what they need to fix this.
But it's not even 10% true. It's all fake.
That's why they can't create any shareholder value, that's why the share plummets, that's why they fail their promises, that's why they get no bank loans ever again.
It's a busted scam.
They had enough time to prove themselves. All hey got done was share price death spiral and megadilution.
It's just a share selling scam. That's how the market values it and that's why the market will make it go down more.
There just isn't any value in this.
They are capable only to dilute.
Siaf has no assets or revenue.
Proven by their inability to create shareholder value, proven by their inability to pay the dividends, proven by their use of scam tactics to announce dividends and "megaloans" and other silly stuff for pump and dump. Proven by their dilution.
There's no such thing as big assets, revenues and wins without any shareholder value. The scam has been exposed already many times, they have had enough time to prove themselves. They can't cause it's just an empty shell.
He said check real business and customers etc. like I have said here. Only real life based results. Real customers never seen, real produce never seen, real money never seen. That's Siaf. He said don't fall for the press releases and internet forum marketing like I have said.
Their P/B and P/E are just silly, that kind of figures can't exist.
Siaf is sold based on those fake assets and earnings. "What if it's true?". Then you have somebody saying on internet forum that the "turn upwards is going to come soon".
That's how the scam works.
Watch this video below. Exactly like promoters market here. Even the 100 million loan idea in the beginning. Just like Siaf "100M megaloan". It's scamming 101 to market things like that. Of course it didn't happen.
Very important to watch, this should be a sticky up there and mandatory to watch before entering this forum.
How penny stock scams work:
One promoter must have tens of usernames here. There can't be huge numbers of people who react to lies, fraud and their investment value loss by promoting the stock just furthermore. This is an ihub scam as well.
They have no money it's a scam. That's why there's no megafarm, megaloan or dividends. That's why they milk these things they don't deliver because they can't create real shareholder value.
Only way the ever pay anything is share selling and they prefer paying directly with shares.
At 98,5% discount to fake book value. "$0,55 batch" is BS they have fed to internet promoters to spread.
Nobody pays premium to market price for a fast falling Chinese scam stock, laughable idea.
TRW share value is $0,03.
36,6% of TRW is in Siaf price already. Siaf's value should constitute mostly from other functions than TRW 36,6 share therefore TRW real world value is something like 5-10 million at max. They have some 100 million shares right? The shares have real world value of something like $0,05-$0,10. Considering it's not listed we should give big discount to any buyer so let's say realistic value $0,03. As with Siaf 100x times fake/overvalued on the books.
Siaf could also raise those kinds of amounts easily based on their book value, but in reality they are broke and dilute.
Same scams.
It is just an opening to promote the share. From a username. The promoting stopped making last bit of it's sense after the dividend fraud. The promotion will be here at $0,02 and at $0,002, No matter what lies and failures the company delivers they will be looking at the satellite images.
Satellite images show Siaf/TRW has no aquafarms at all. Solly is never seen in the images. Furthermore share price speculations from satellite images have failed completely. Yet the promoters keep using them in their desperation to sell the scam. Lies, lies lies. That's all there is.
I don't believe any of it. Subsidiaries look just like Zero says that they are independent and Siaf has nothing to do with their real life earnings or has any rights to the assets. And they can't sell any assets.
Their own operation Siaf/TRW seems to be total scam, Tony saying he is experimenting and "waiting for the loan". At this stage! That hundred million megaloan is the classic starting bit in the penny stock scam video and this forum exactly like "that guy from the internet forum" who markets how cheap this is and then down we go.
Solly saying they can't grow prawns adult, harvests never seen, customers never seen, Solly never seen in the subsidiaries.
Instead Solly has been seen in Sweden seducing Swedish small time investors.
EVERYTHING aligns perfectly this being just a scam.
Nobody gets super stupid with own company and possessions and destroys while even a child could see what is smarter thing to do.
No way...
The most convincing evidence is the management never buys, they always eagerly sell or give out shares like they tried with TRW.
-98,5% discount to the books and management is just itching to print and sell more.
Hundreds of millions of previous years claimed wins have disappeared, left with no sellable assets, questionably owning some aquafarms whose value has been overblown totally, a few million each at max. Toxic debt and those sad buildings mostly given away all that is left. 10 milion market cap everything put together with all subsidiaries and TRW 36,6%... The market doesn't believe at all and their performance and actions verify it.
That is a scam. Nothing says otherwise.
These dividend failures, problems and fine from Merkur market etc.
In fact I believe they can't/won't even pay the fine and will be kicked from Merkur soon.
They lied to lift the share price. It's manipulation of the share price, misleading the market and investors and should be punished. Making it a lot worse they did the opposite of dividend and diluted 20 million shares after the announcement. I think they will be kicked out from Merkur soon. They have no money to pay the 70 000 euros fine, it's a huge amount for them. They will probably rather get kicked out than pay. They lied about the dividends and were under surveillance already. If they continue in Merkur they have to dilute to get that 70 000. Under surveillance, scammed with dividend announcements and start diluting with claimed profits and assets basically without any reason. That's enough reason kicking them out and if they feel they could get kicked anyway they surely will not pay the fine. The rope is tightening around their neck.
Them being broke cancelled the dividend.
It also cancels all future coming dividends.
And commences dilution ASAP.
Next time frame, next disappointment.
Next trigger, next failure.
And what really happens during next 3-6 months will be more dilution.
But the promoters never get tired promoting.
"I built my world around Solly". =D
And the promotion continues. Amazing. =D Complete disregard to proven lies and complete denial of the reality.
We made a better Christmas deal already, I don't want that much money from him.
I'm here to help, not to hurt.
The book value been proven totally fake already.
The fact that they can't get bank loans or sell anything to help the company out from the swamp says it best.
The company's silly portfolio should be streamlined anyway and branches sold but they just collect more stupid stuff there "fruit trees" and whatnot. Because it's all fake it might as well be there, they can't sell anything cause they own nothing.
Cow dung inventory is now more than company value, it's laughable beyond silliness. As I and Zero have proved here the JV stuff has nothing to do with the company, the assets do NOT belong to Siaf shareholders or their income.
The own aquafarms (do they even own one really?) look quiet and inactive, it's like they get to take photos there on summer break and then they are thrown out. If there's one aquafarm Tony's statement that he just experiments and waits for the loan says it all.
No business.
Almost no assets at all.
No dividend.
No shareholder value.
The share is not "depressed", it is going down logically as their scam unfolds.
"Street smart". Those are the two words. We have been trying to tell how it's going to go. I always base my investment decisions on how clever I think the CEO is and what are the real life track record what they have done. It is an amazingly huge big mistake to invest in China space on a guy who looks like total ass even if the reported things were semi-real. And looks like underlying business might be all fake. I don't know if you can short a stock like this but i wish I did. I'm just a regular Joe Sixpack and invest in things I believe and hate people who look like slimy scammers. And here the slimy scammer meter went off the charts... We can't grow prawns adult ..what..? We dilute with no reason lend huge amounts to other company.. ...what? We have fruit tree business.. ..what..? We have cow dung inventory worth more than company market cap. ..what..?
Totally crazy. I've been telling many times this stock has ALL the things you DON'T want in an investment. Just basic investing rules. Why this one? makes absolutely no sense.