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Realdutch yes. That’s the main character. Find the guy behind the nick, he stole your money. Put him in prison. What a low life scumbag.
I hope all you lost a lot of money who believed this dutch something what was the scamsters name again forgot already? This whole forum is a scamsters market, pathetic. There should some kind of crime investigation what these scamsters do here to idiots. Find that dutch something and put him into prison. We warned you. But you wanted more. Hope you are happy.
That’s evolution you were super stupid. You wanted to believe the cult leader ”realdutch” instead of evidence, common sense and logical thinking. We warned, we layed it all out, it was getting crazier and sillier all the time by the company, nothing was investable. Of course you got burned if you believed in insanity. He ran this forum removed most unpleasent messages and screwed you all hyping this insanity. Probably used tens of user id to do it here, Find out who he is, find out why he did this. Would be interesting to know how human scum scammers work.
It is a scam. Management never buys.
They own nothing, do no business.
And this forum here is their main marketing platform.
Possibly due to the relentless marketing here fooling novice investors, it keeps going on and some people still get fooled.
Look at the silly books and businesses compared to real life performance of the stock. It is one of the most obvious of all Chinese agricultural tax free scams.
Kicked out from the Merkur market already.
Possibly due to the relentless marketing here fooling novice investors, it keeps going on and some people still get fooled.
It's a scam stop with the addresses, do you no good. Sell and sue. I can't believe people are still manipulated on this forum. It's lowest level scam for really really stupid investors. You will not get anything back, only way to get something back is to sell and it's always best to sell yesterday.
Management printed some and selling?
They always sell. Never buy. Because they know.
What's the share price/book value now, less than 1%?
Management always sells, they know that 1% does not exist.
100% scam.
Single digit cents now very close, my educated guess might come true after all and we see this under 10 cents by the end of the year.
Hopefully next year whatever of the scam is left is finally 100% exposed and this falls into fractions of cent where it truly belongs.
If management doesn't buy at 1% or 2% of the claimed book value, the books are completely cooked and fake.
If somebody still believes in fruit trees or other mega-nonsense by the company and has any significant money invested: sell.
This will go to fractions of a cent it is inevitable. Timetable might be faster or slower but that path is carved in stone and 100% sure.
Long time no see, how's everybody doing?
I'm very surprised siaf hasn't dropped more! Was so sure this would go down to single digit cents. Not far from it though.
What empty promises and fake projects are going on now? How they try lure investors at the moment? Fruit trees a big thing now? =D These guys are masters of excuses and mega-promises, surprisingly still alive. =D
Bunch of us tried warning investors here, but too much resistance for common sense here. Too bad if somebody missed the great opportunities this year holding siaf stocks, it has been a great rally for real stocks!
You can't up scam stock with positive talk.
The end result will not change with "happy moods".
Listen to voice of reason sell scam stocks away and concentrate on better companies and finer things in life.
That should result into much more positive and good things.
Room 3801, Block A, China Shine Plaza No. 9, Lin He Xi Road
Guangzhou City 510610
China
One room in an office building is both the head quarters for Sino Agro Food AND "Tri-Way Industries".
According to Zero a shared space with a telemarketing scam.
Claimed over one billion dollar companies share one room. =D
Sounds more like a minimalist scam than what they claim to be.
Just another trick to lift the share. Tumbling down soon... Amazing that people still believe.
Pump and dump coming. These guys have no income, once again up with empty pressers and who knows what tricks. At the end of the day the stock will plummet lower than ever.
It's a busted scam, caught lying so many times and never creating any real shareholder value. This bubble wont' last longer than few days at max.
What you think they would do in that emergency meeting? Plan for a fake mega-deal presser? Extract cash out of thin air?
If this was a real company they would have sold assets loooong time ago and kept some of the claimed EPS for ECAB debt and shareholders to keep things rolling and shareholder value increasing.
But it's just a scam, the share is their junk currency they don't even care.
There's no cash or assets they can sell.
It's busted scam not a company that just forgot one very important BOD meeting LOL.
Gullible you forgot "big shrimp jump in the net"! =D
Scam is busted now we will see how the grand finale will be!
Interesting times, authorities? lawsuits? going dark? bankruptcy?
5 million company with 0 assets. Because they outrageously lie having 500-800 million assets and somebody always going to believe hence 5 million value based on nothing.
How you do good IR with a scam? Lie a lot? They should have lied more? Admit that they are a scam? We have been telling you this already. It's somewhat mixture of being sad and hilarious when people want this and that from a scam company that's been plummeting, diluting and lying for many years already. I mean tortoises are slow but...
They manipulated share up and avoided lawsuits with fake dividend announcement. TRW scam milking it as a "high value dividend" when 36,6% is already in Siaf shareprice was just pure scamming. Everything they do aligns perfectly with this being a total scam and fraud.
There's no assets, workers, harvests, customers... You have a photo from the headquarters of Siaf? 780 million agricultural empire Siaf head office? LMAO! Nobody has. It's a scam. No employees, no operations, no money. Only dilution.
TRW is the same scam 36,6% in Siaf share price already. Worthless. Yes both are frauds. Never in a million years will Solly's Siaf scam pert2 TRW be listed in HK. Siaf will be delisted from Merkur, that's the next step.
TRW is a busted scam as well. All these amounts are imagination. If there were millions in TRW they would have sorted out all the problems. It's same as with other assets: nothing there all fake or owned by others. TRW is just the same scam as Siaf.
36,6% of TRW is already in the Siaf share price.
So value is about same as Siaf. Busted scam.
Couldn't help Siaf, didn't lift Siaf shareprice.
Exactly fwb! =D
All the tell-tale signs fraudulent behavior, dilution, money disappearing, share coming down as trust evaporated.... It's been going on for many years already. If somebody got hit by a steamroller it happened just like in the video! =D
We have been telling the signs of fraud long time already.
-No shareholder value created
-Money escaping shareholders
-Shady loan shark loans
-No proper bank relations
-Dilution
-No customers seen
-No produce seen
-Seducing small time investors
-Can't sell assets
-Miss payments
-Break regulations
-Regular shareholders have no voting power
-Advertise "mega" things and big loans
-Always fail what advertised
-Horrific downfall of the shareprice
Scams/frauds don't come more obvious than this unless the management starts wearing "I scam U" t-shirts.
The P/E is negative, there's no earnings. It's a proven scam why spread around these silly P/E numbers like they are real? That's how you recognize a scam or a fraud when the numbers are like this.
Real world is loss of a lifetime in one year. Loss of a hundred lifetimes if you bought 3 years ago.
Reality for everyone who has believed the promoters here, nice job guys.
If massive value loss and complete dishonesty are your criteria for "rational" long term investing then Siaf is your choice I guess.
Legal actions are threatening it, dilution is on, threat of thrown out from Merkur, at $0,05 also downgraded from OTC. They have 70 000 euros penalty on them and are under special surveillance from Merkur.
Totally broke can't pay what promised, not even loan interests.
Investment can't get worse than this LOL. Seriously what is worse than this?
Worst performing stock in Norway 2017 and this year they are going to be even worse. That's so pathetic that it's laughable already. Seriously, nothing is more "sell" than this.
It's proven already they can't liquidate the assets. They are not theirs. You can put a gun on Solomon's head but he can't liquidate what isn't his.
They would be complete idiots rather destroying their company than selling incompatible, scattered silly assets. They are not idiots.
Idiots are the ones who believe this company has flower business, fruit tree business, cattle business, fertilizer business and whatnot worth hundreds of millions but they rather dilute, not pay loans, not pay dividends, not pay fines and rather be 5 million company in debt and destruction just because they "don't want to" sell assets. Wake up already.
The assets are not real. They are just on paper to lure in investors to buy their shares.
Mostly they like to play it out. Nothing's happened here. The fact is if it's scam like i think it is then ok everybody was just stupid and go lick their wounds, but if the businesses are real these guys have done a massive fraud and stolen the money from shareholders.
That's why it's hard to believe those who believe because they have the most to gain from a lawsuit.
But they tend to be against it.
So why you didn't get the lawsuit going?
This is a scam targeting the elderly, there's actually no big amounts of shares in terms of value. It's a low level low volume scam having little interest. Someone always falls for the published P/B or EPS in the internet and next day it's the hangover day. Too good to be true usually indeed is a scam.
Next CFO will be the police.
Sure need to clean a hell of a mess.
Nobody will pay for "TRW". 36,6% of it is already included in Siaf share price. Nobody gives a flying fudge, it's the same CEO Solly, same BOD, same inability to pay in cash. = same scam.
Learn the local language if you want to be good at teaching English and make money doing it. There's all sorts of beach bums who think this is a free lunch. Get interested in the local language where ever you want to go, study it 2-3 years in advance so you have conversation skills and then you can get client base cause you will understand the clients.
Martin assets have real value of $0,00.
Amazing how some still don't get it. It's a scam and scams are based on fake value. Like a gypsy selling a cheap copy ring as a gold ring on the street, saying she just found it on the street just need little bit money for food, 10 euros, not much for a gold ring huh?
You fell for a scam. The assets would have been sold long ago if they were theirs/had value. There's absolutely nothing there. Rented shared office space where they write their wild reports. Pics of other peoples farms and companies.
All the real life actions and lack of them should already make you connect the dots.
Nobody should be so blue-eyed still believing the Nigerian Prince has all those assets and is just dying to sell to you super cheap...
Scam's up, game over.
On the contrary they did figure out how to make money with (somebody else's) farms. You have put in money and now most of that money is gone, right? Where do you think that money is? In farm improvements? =D
LOL
It seems nothing is real.
Tony said earlier this year that he is just "experimenting and waiting for the loan". How can he be doing that if they claim having produced xxx tons of shrimp? Furthermore customers or harvests never seen. Pics from aquafarms show inactive places, they get to go take photo during summer break? Furthermore this is where most of the money is supposed to come. They have absolutely no money. After 20 million shares dilution, after not paying their debts, after not paying dividends = they have nothing. Aquaculture busted.
The other agriculture is so silly to begin with but those subsidiaries never mention Siaf or Solly. Siaf management is never seen there. Like Zero says they must be promotional scams. Not entitled to cash flows or assets. And they should sell these silly branches anyway liquidate them, but even in this time of extreme trouble they can't. Busted. These assets can't be real.
And market doesn't believe these stories either, soon their books is 100x real life market value.
The most incriminating evidence being management sells shares at 1,5% of the book value and never buys themselves.
Scam busted.
Just before kicking out from Merkur and right after their fraud has been confirmed it's good time to buy a company that has no business and dilutes for sure?
The scam promotion never ends.
Next year sub-penny prices and over 100 million shares.
That's just speculation for short term changes. There's no business and dilution will continue for sure. So in the long run this will always come down because they can't create shareholder value and dilution will always be the only true driving force and that's downwards of course. It is impossible to make money on this in the long run. Sell early so you don't end up like the forum promoters.
http://sinoagrofood.investorroom.com/investment-calculator
Bankruptcy would be fairly neat way to end this. Solly is getting old and surely no one can continue the scam or wants to do so. Also Merkur very close to kicking them out. Lawsuits hanging overhead. From the ecab loan default he has the validation for bankruptcy. Why not, enough is enough? I'm sure he has made nice chunks of money from this already.
Now NOK1 !! Party hats on! =D
Maybe he forgot to pay but all the income and assets are real? Maybe banks believe all the assets and businesses too but the megaloan note got lost? Maybe they have a lot of production and customers but customers accidentally paid on old bank account and money got lost? And Solly's phone camera is broken and so are the ones on their customer's phones, never seen with customers what a shame no evidence? Same with the big harvests never get photo just bad luck battery died every time but they are real?
He isn't "reckless". He is coping with a scam that has nothing and trying to fake and keep up the appearances.