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Stock to continue down more (maybe .10-30) further?
Best start the praying for the holiday season end of year sales revenues, come through.
That $12+Mil in stock purchases has to be paid for somehow.
And, it won't last very long at the rate these folks spend. More stock offerings coming next year, if holiday sales fall through, I do not foresee hardy gifting and personal buys.
Where is progress word on James Bond and Robo Cop SW games?
If one of them (at least) is to be out by DEC . . . it has to have sdvertising in game, etc. magazines and stock (online sales sites?) in mid-Nov time frame.
Is this even GLUU holiday season option, or will those games be out by summer 2014?
Looking the stock over.
Like what I see.
We should be heading back into the .50s before Nov.
Thank you for your posting on this board.
The Zumba exercise game might well be expandable into doing bed-rest and wheelchair and chair exercise routines for seniors and the disabled in rehab.
ARRP magazine is good place to get an ad/article going out. Seniors love to buy decent kids games and they are starting to play them more and more themselves. (I am assuming the company reads its own board).
Company might also think about packaging demo site into comics, you just photograph/scan the funny puzzle like square and it gets you there.
A couple of nice artls. about how medical care users like to have their clients started out on a low-impact/slow movement Zumba game format would help.
Personal care toy/robots are to be big future market.
Imagine the house vacumn/care robot speaks to you via operator/timer and says 'Lets exercise now! Let dance this robot dog!' Oregon university is protyping home care robots and would most liely be wiling to discuss these aspects on home care software options, etc. with the company. Also check schools that are into training caregivers for input and those teaching/researching elder care. Funding sources might be grant written?
Like the online gaming/gambling even for prizes and coupons relationship with new partners. COOL could well be headed higher in next two years, as USA expanses outward for new tax revenues sources. If COOL plays it right, MidNight City is goldmine of getting mutual savings and benefits from Indy game developers.
I will be establishing my first buy position very soon.
Cooking MaMa would have been a great PTA promo and Kindergarten tool to get kids to cook/play together as a team. And, learn good eating habits.
If GLUU or ZNGA or EA had any brains they would be looking into COOL.
This is looking like a favorable odds gamble outcome stock.
We head lower?
Who could we acquire, or partner with?
Maybe a Chinese or British company?
Facial Recognition SW will be big in future gaming, can GLUU buy into it somehow?
Or, could GLUU go in with COOL on a project (games development together)?
Also, could buy some of THQI device games they had started working on?
Ought to be able to buy into that company's stockpile fairly cheap.
Either ATIG is t he best kept secret in online gambling ever conceived, or ATIG is dead meat as a sale able business. Everyone take their own choice (or is there yet another possibility).
An aside: just imagine that all the retail stockholders got together and decided how this company should have been run. Further, we could have probably found a way to get this online platform up and used (even if for free). Did someone block us (ATIG) from being successful?
Future scenario for ATIG: WHo as a market maker would be able to want to enter into any kind of relationship with ATIG? That is the key question and what does it say about ATIG? Am-it-tors totally. We took a flyer on a reasonable concept early on and it never was to be possible.
Not one tribe has come forward to show any interest.
Or, are the 3 tribes just waiting . . . for what?
Vertical Farming (greenhouses) and pay-to-play online gambling are only two new revenue sources that have potential . . . Syria . . . USA is paying out tens of $billions in one-way food, meds, ammo, etc. and adding to our deficit.
Vertical Farming and online paid casinos are based in USA and create net new USA jobs. Someone probably told the Arizona bomb-everyone Space Ranger that MJ kills the pain and will make him sleep, without all those pain killers he could take?
Its nice to have no market maker, time to rebrand the LLC name and sell MJ sleepy time fun bars. If we get trades back going . . . maybe .01-.02 will be our high when online gambling/gaming gets a huge positive PR. USA is going to have to get something going to boost tax revenues.
Can't foresee any real upside herein for us.
ATIG is (far as I can tell) left way back in the trail-dust by the competition.
Tribes have generally split off and going each their own way.
I suspect the tribe casinos will each make some sort of alliance with the Vegas boys, or the state they are in (or be left outside the internet gaming/gambling premits). Unless silence is golden . . . ATIG has no cash to carry forward its idea. Does ATIG have a goggle app for online use by players trying for points and prizes? They should have just tried the goggle appl store path as their dual test site/player pay or whatever (selling the info and advertisers attachments)?
Its time to rename ATIG LLC to pitch mary jane freeze-dried sleepy time bars.
Wonder by ATIG retail investors where their money that was on record before
the 'freeze' went. Evidently, SEC is unable (or ashamed) to have to admit whose pocket(s) it went into. It sure as quicksand didn't just 'vanish'.
If anyone tried this on the street corner . . . cops would be called and settle who owns the money. Pinkies and wall street likened to legal hold-up?
An't much fun to get your money stolen by third-rate crooks! But legal system says its fair and honest work. What happened to the idea that stock investing was more than a casino pull? "Freeze' is just code for 'paper A-OK for robbery allowed'.
Where is Mr. Bailey . . . counting his 'retirement', behind closed doors?
His silence and slip away from responsibility is telling.
The real question is what is the cost of the rev increase (even if it is 3-5X
the previous quarter or year? Figure in the cost of financing, wages, property taxes, supplies as inventory, production of the miracle grow cubicals, etc. This company is buying these revs with DEBT and EXPENSES, as their cost. That's also our stock purchases. This is not a profitable company. Its competition will be the likes of Home Depot. No one would be wiling to buy anything this compnay has as small retail stores.
How effective, for instance, was the cost of the ad budget/unit of sales increase? I really doubt PHOT can sell the indoor grow cubes for less than $800. I could be wrong, but it still remains to be seen if small growers will go ape over the grow cubes. Maybe I indeed have it wrong and t hey will be a huge success.
But, doubtful, even if that is true, this company gets over $15 Million in annual sales. Tkhey do not have a unique product, that should be selling for say $250-350 . . . very doubtful PHOT can get the cost profitably (for them) down into that range.
I hold shares of PHOT but only for PR based stock price bursts.
Most likely someone will end up buying them up and folding into their own paper dream corporation.
I greatly hope for Vertical Farming and local self-reliance . . . but it has not happened yet. America eats from Super national Ag-Farms. I mean . . . self-steering and parking cars is the dawning rage for the majority.
Most buy chemical cigs, and do not grow their own tobacco. You can't even get anyone to steal a shovel . . . it has no resale value.
Reality is not the dream, dispite some politicos statement.
I still do not understand how a USA company can be split into 2 parts . . . international assets and USA assets awards, by a USA Judge. Isn't such things suppose to have world court approval (or agreements between governmental parties in said legal venues)? For example, Mexico and France (to take two examples of sales and manufacturing,possibilities) just role over and let anyone dictate who and what happens to physical assets and sales in their respective countries? We have heard nothing from international venues of political control over export and import valuations. EU for one, is quite touchy right now about any commerce implications of 'beloved' USA companies.
Yank . . . I hope that Texas $300 Mil cluster cost includes payments to those who sue and say they and those of their family, business circle, who were (or are) experiencing medical and personal property 'shortfalls', due to XIDE toxicity/production issues compensation.
Its really beginning to look like XIDE will have no further USA sales of their products, and only third world international sales possibilities? Hawaii (can't spell it correctly?) company with solar cell and/or wind farm had trouble with lead acid batteries system storage fire. I can't remember whose Pb batts were used or whether 12V batts couldn't do the job. The problem might have been the voltage regulator system oversight circuit also. Series/parallel battery systems without active computer monitoring sensor Software, would not have been a wise design idea (if that whats transpired). I do not know if it was XIDE lead acid batteries used (I am thinking not). I was reading about Japanese long-range economic planning for recovery to include advantaged battery technologies development and the artl. mentioned in a sub artl. about the problem with the lead acid battery power storage bank. This is the kind of thing that can happen when one company sells the batteries and another company handles the battery operation oversight.
I am also now thinking XIDE 'cans' its USA production and sales and just sells all the good stuff to other companies, and will work out some sort of loyalty rev from the other domestic companies, etc. that use its brand name?
As to the USA toxic lead plants, etc. problems . . . EPA will be stuck with them under its huge 'dump tarp', and 'papered over' via routine 'visits' and contracts for warning signs and maybe . . . metal fences around them? They could not bring back the asbestos or agent orange or lead paint . . . nor lead water piping. If the USA judge OKs ending XIDE USA . . . it does make one wonder who gets the chairs after the music stops.
I am doubting if in another type scenario comes about, will we also find XIDE even would import XIDE brand into USA anymore.
Anyone have any thoughts of this take?
Wouldn't it be amazing if the BK ploy was all about tying up the toxic lead dump issues in court for decades? The politics of avoiding further unemployment, alternatively, could keep XIDE making batteries and opening new plant and battery technology all the while. What a true mystery plot all this is, my ramblings aside.
If the 'freeze' is now off . . . no one told us shareholders.
Something we all might be kind of interested in? DA!
Thanks from the board for posting.
Noted they did not register terms like 'road kill' and 'super-sized' as electro chemical registered and safe battery terms. How unfortunate.
'EXIDE VORTEX', this is a novel and new world order type of battery tech waiting in the wings . . . as american last ditch effort to save civilization.
If I remember, its has to do with harnessing the power of an huge test tube enclosed whirlwind effect. It becomes a closed-loop energy device, when one drops chemicals into it. Zero-Point Energy and Tesla Earth-Sky stuff. Something to do with off-grid-ism.
The Chloride Battery . . . hmmm. . . P&Gamble may have something to say about that one.
I feel safer knowing we all are in such Good Hands.
XIDE surely has a plan to survival. 100s of pages saying nothing.
I saw a blockhead personage wearing this strange T-Shirt with signage
FILE PERSONAL BK
REDUCE THE DEFICIT
This is surely the path back to national status.
I won't work for food . . . or something like that . . . quite logical.
If lawyers were engineers . . . we should be already be owning and colonizing Mars.
I, for one, look forward to your posts,
as the rest of us circle dance on the Titanic.
When one has to use legality to save a corp.,
it says volumes about your products and management?
Or, is it your stock options?
HP, MSFT, Sears, Pennys, EXIDE . . . for whom the bell tolls.
MSFT needs a lot more than GLUU to survive.
It sat on its tech impaired rear and did failure after failure; while Google, Amazon, Apple and Samsung ate their lunch. Now, also facing China as competitor in ever field MSFT can think of.
Needs $$s for advertising and who wants to tell their friends and relatives I Glue . . . ah . . . you do d---?!!
GLUU stock volume is hardly more than average, for a rumor (though it did increase over recent low daily volume). Back up to 2.70-.85 now slowly, or it falls down below 2.15.
Nothing until end of November?
Then, new games (including maybe BOND MGM) for holiday season sales pitch. Remember; GLUU games will be 'in-the-cloud' . . . not on the shelf at Wally World and Game Stop. So . . . we need AD $$s and maybe free trial . . . where will the money come from?
If GLUU falls back down right away . . . we could be heading for new stock placement issue. That will not help build the stock price.
What might help boost the stock price is MGM announces one can play MGM/GLUU online at its casino property on your cellphone and table, etc. And, MGM Entertainment fronts ads on their TV show and movie channels. That kind of what I foresee for holidays, with maybe some ads in comic books and player magazines, too. Pop cans and food box ads also.
You do not foresee any further down-price potential (due to stock market coming down from now to end of 2013)?
BAC had proposed funding solar cell arrays for residentail and businesses, recently. I always thought some kind of Green Power Energy Bond might be created and have some of the feed-back solr created power financing the I on that Bond.
I see the Ausezz approach of Sun Power as sign of competition for SCTY.
Seveal Middle Eatern nations have huge outalys for R&D centers and production of solar technology developing. Doubtful they will accept SCTY as installer of those.
Our XIDEQ BK is different in one interesting way.
XIDE is attempting to section the corporation into 2 distinct entities: USA and foreign assets. This may or may not 'fly' with the judge . . . as state of Calif. and USA government departments will have their say in this.
No one has publicly proposed how XIDE will keep its brand name legacy in tact.
They might import label batteries to USA, though they might also strive to create some purchase of a small USA compaqny and 'drop' XIDE trademark (for USA use on them).
We still are not totally sure that XIDE m;ight; just be bargaining to get those filthy Pb plant dumps 'discounted', and we do not for sure know what 'price' that will effect on USA operations. XIDE's biggest problem is poor management and their ignorant high price label marketing schemes.
Unlike Kodak . . . XIDE does not have much in the way of legacy patent material (at least publicly known). Wouldn't it be fun if the Judge says 'NO!' and mandates outside tyrant (but skilled) oversight of XIDE out of BK?
Just, we retail investors might just come out ahead . . . IF the judge so decides. Meaning to keep their vaunted battery name label, they must use their present common stock to build UP from. I have no way of knowing what will happen, just some thoughts.
Judges can, if they desire, make life miserable for those that drop things like . . . we can't get a re-organization plan going or thought up . . . before Dec . . . your honor. This is so unprofessional publicly . . . as can be taken as an insult to the powers of the bench. No one goes to court without having their cards prepared. Lets see how that works out? What exactly has the 'ship-of-fools' been up to all these years at all those meetings? No Plan B or Plan C? Really. Judges do not like to be viewed in the public eye as mere errand boys, and rubber stampers.
CHINA TO PASS USA IN OIL USE BY 2017?
On Yahoo finance page artl. about that.
SCTY and TSLA may still become much larger companies, due to the above, as USA switches off Middle Eastern Oil and China buys more from Venz, Saudis, and other international sources? China and USA solar companies will beat each other up, as they keep competing for USA solar market. This means solar cell prices (and their power) will be increasingly seen as smart energy use system by american customers (to beat utility rate hikes coming and potentially increasing brownouts caused by drought and higher temperatures cycle). things to consider as one speculates on investing in SCTY.
Who eats any losses in solar energy output due to wind, ice storms, vandalism and theft of panels? Just homeowner insurance, or does SCTY carry its own liability in these areas (as it actually owns the panels and their output)?
Run that one pass your home insurance agent. Or local utility (if one is grid connected via their roof solar panels).
I know only one person that has remote lake solar panels he bot and installed, and not on-grid. I assume he is his own insurance, in this particular case.
Why does SCTY keep dropping in price, if more and more folks are signing up with SCTY?
Hope that is a good sign for us retail investors.
Does this unsecured creditors offer mean even they did not know XIDE was in such bad shape financially before the company declared its BK?
Could be.
FEDS may yet 'come-on-in' and tell XIDE they are going to have to eat BK, and tighten up their belt . . stranger things have happened. Politically, neither State of Calif. and USA government wants to eat those 'lead toxic dumps' right now on their own. XIDE just might have to sell some international holdings to make up the USA cost $$ shortfalls. That event, could mean no sale of XIDE BK plan w/o international assets on the table. That would call XIDE bluff 'we don't know how to write and enact or request a survival business plan . . . we all just poor Prep school boys'.
If Bailey can sell many more shares in exchange for funding, a R/Split is not in the immediate deck of cards to be played?
Selling more shares may be only way Bailey can 'break' the freeze?
ATIG does not have very many options are now.
If he sells shares, its likely he will have to do a R/S to enable loanee to get 'paid'.
Bailey should have went for the NV gambling legal paper, as an exclusive online 'free site' and invited players across a number of states to join and use (which they could legally do for bonus points, prizes and discount coupons from various site sponsor/sellers). He has not shown anything special (at least to us retail investors, that he had a plan and could get an online site active and used. Never gave us any numbers (example of users). He dropped the ball early on, and just took a salary and goodies . . . he is rather like ZAAP . . . as it repeatedly missed using its first in EV electric car market position status. Little companies have usually only one chance to make it happen. USA .pk solar energy companies also 'muffed it'. USA will just keep failing as innovative ideas and technology is noted and under-sold by foreign competitors. They could not have a nicer enemy than USA greed and criminally stupid and lazy.
I expect Chinese gaming and software communications companies to soon establish themselves in USA market. 'Have a Nice Day!' Free Trade is wonderful, when your opponents are focused on personal profit, not national ascendant goals. Chinese send their best students to USA to take up our university student seats. Then they buy into our USA companies, partner and hire the best unemployed SW designers we have so easily provided to them. It would be hard not to succeed in such a 'provided' USA business environment. Maybe Bailey needs to establish an ATIG anchor baby in Asia? Beginning to look like ATIG is his swan song.
Another Option: just sell ATIG to whoever.
All we have left as retail investors is sitting and waiting for Bailey to figure something (anything) out. I suspect he is really sweating and looking over his shoulder. Wonder whatever he could be worried about.
Time will tell
The way I see it now . . . Bailey would never have done the Shareholder Meeting, unless he was going for new funding and a R/S. Time for Action Jackson 'Bud'. Its worth our wait to just see what Mr. Bailey develops.
Might you expand on your 'positive experience' in the Portland growth life store, for board(apparently PHOT can,t or won't talk about individual store revenues, etc.). How many employees and customers did you observe? What kind of sales activity di you see (everyone was pulling $$s out and buying stuff)?
Has PHOT broken down wahere the sales jump came from (retail stores or online buys).
Could not even make .05 on all this wonderful new revenues.
Too the Moon Alice!
Why not Bailey just trade all of ATIG to another active .pk company and give us shares in the new company? That should make the SEC happy.
I have now offered forth two possibilities for Bailey to get it right with us and SEC. With this one mentioned above, he gets to get back in 'the game'.
Or, sell some ATIG money and apply for online gambling/gaming license in NV to do free game play on the internet with our vaunted game(s). Its legal to play for prizes and points online. Bailey can reach out to all senior centers and something like ad in AARP magazine and local weekly free papers in many nearby states with free points/prize coupon ads. Refer players to our vaunted internet website. One might be able to do with SEC and State of NV, as Beta Testing the software.
Combine the 3 suggestions and roll out a program, and get it done.
Or, just declare BK and get us all outed, so we can claim it legally on our income taxes as a loss.
I was recently watching another .pk stock compan;y and they got 'frozen' and had even a worse legal case then ATIG, and got 'unfrozen' and asked shareholders to give them a chance to make it right. that stock is now trading freely, but has very much lower stock price and volume, but its back on the board.
Something is really bad in Denmark . . . when ATIG can't even issue a PR
explaining what they can and will do. What kind of casino game are we in, if no info can be presented to us retail investors? At least the house will ask us to leave, and not come back until we have more money.
Forget Bit Coin, ATIG can print electronic money (bonus points and freebie coupons) on the internet
, as win/play prizes.
Unless I am mistaken, ATIG apparently does not have very much positive test data from its WIFI relationship with 3 tribal casinos (it experimented with).
I just about broken even with my small ATIG purchases and sales, though got stuck (for now as frozen) couple of hundred dollars. I do not mind losing my shares as that is how the game is played, but the 'freeze' by SEC was not in the plan as a way to lose my shares. Looks very unfair for me and rest of retail stock investors.
In my opinion, SEC should publicly ask Bailey and company to give us back our bucks, at a minimum. or he and they are too be barred from further stock offering for sales in USA. the .pk land is like shooting us fish in a barrel, but this time we are 'frozen' fish.
SCTY has the most useful business model in the solar industry (note the several large players have backed outs of their solarization ideas like Du Pont
and GE (for now). Everyone else is stuck with their R&D costs, while players all over the world keep innovating solar cell output % eff.
I still do not understand why someone like GE Capital has not 'taken away' the SCTY solar leasing mode, with their big buck pockets.
Also, always wondered why Obomb administration never got it that they could keep USA folks working at their job paying taxes and keeping their homes, by
getting USA solar cell companies to hire USA workers and put solar cells on USA home and business roofs . . . talk about a QE program that might have saved us all and lessened deficit by producing real physical capital investment (instead of economy based on rising stock market ghost economy). Stevy Wonder (the Energy Secty) probably could not swing something like that with the DC/Wall Street FEDs.
Another small problem is . . . what happens to all the lease solar cell contracts, if FED starts withdrawals T-Bill month purchases, and interest rates creep up?
The SCTY business model: utilities still have to OK the to grid hookups and who sends the signal allowing grid restart after a brownout or failure? Lot of potential for lose power fees if no backup batteries installed for each set of solarized homes? How does all this stuff 'talk' to each other?
Thanks for explaining what TGN means (I must have forgot what the letters stood for.
Beginning to look like TGN was just using ATIG to gain some free experience in WIFI online gambling?
Wonder how friendly all these tribes are working together, towards a common goal? Looking like individual tribes are in to working with their particular state governments? I agree with the notion that most tribal casinos have shot themselves in the foot, as pertains to internet gambling/gaming. The casino main property is their major focus (as employment and gambling venue, so why change things). I had not thought of that angle in all this . . . that you describes as each tribe by itslef is too small to create a large wifi player pool. Grandparents, etc. do not go to casino to wifi games on their cellphone . . . they are their to have the 'casino experience'. Next generational age catagory of gamers will be more into home internet gambling. I see some older folk at my library set-up on their laptop to 'flip' poker, etc. Tribal casinos may see falling number of folks that want to travel their (or can afford to drop the play bucks) and state lotteries online purchase/play may eat into their casino going audience.
We of ATIG retail investors may never see our frozen monies again.
Wonder where those 'frozen' bucks and shares will 'surface' (only in pockets of MM and ATIG Team Zero)? SEC should make ATIG accountable to return those $$s to us. Why does not SEC create insurance bond/fund to make sure .pk stock can't get away scot free with denying retail stock investors their share price.
Actually not bad news.
Means BOD and management can think about getting some shovels and wheels and get down on the job cleaning up their mess. Oh dear . . . mean we have to do that icky work we tried to hide?
Could result in forced sale of some of its assets for cash, including international. Maybe government should sue BOD and management and seal them off from any benefits and salaries and stock options. They can work for one dollar per year, until they decide to get it right. Want to bet they can come up with a recovery plan ASAP? All we need is some Texas Rangers to put them in some party orange jump suits.
Or bring over some North Korean Special Forces to 'discuss' the recovery plan . . . bet that gets positive results. Why I even can imagine BOD getting religion and falling all over themselves in public to ask for forgiveness for their sub-standard abilities, and each pledging a big personal $$s contribution from their personal fortunes, to speed up the cleanup.
Please explain to board what is TGN link, as all I got was video ad for credit card. Great but I do not need it.
Not a word from ATIG.
They can hold a shareholders meeting in NV, but can't talk online or in a press release. Well . . . at least we paid for Bailey to get a nice meal and a free taxi?
Next ATIG 'whammy' is so secret, even HLS and Chinese can't break the code.
You just know ATIG is working butts to elbows to get some money back to us.
Retail investors are just cows to milk, and then dump?
Its a casino . . . we are not suppose to win . . . just pay to have fun and that's it. Leave broke . . . have a nice day! Note 'they' felt no legal obligation to tell us the company was failing.
Ever one else was magic kissed but us, though they sure liked to have us buy stock in their company so they could option us (we gave them huge insider stock set-ups). Everyone eats on us . . . but we have no place at the table.
Nice?
I was thinking more of utilities would not own the solar cell electricity, and might have to pay out to have to use it, particularly utilities do not like any source of emf that enters their lines (without them knowing of it). Their crews in a power outage, could encounter stray EMFs that are life threatening during repairs.
Utilities usually have a monopoly on power line generation in their assigned market, and are very protective of it.
Thus, utilities might decide to take up the roof top lease solar cell market.
TSLA has to now face organized state associations of car dealers, that do not want state auto sales venues (dealerships) changed as the only way to legally sell retail as a business.
i have no idea of the legality of all this for SCTY, but something to keep up on?
MMMW apparently is using a non-electric method of moving the solar panels to orient with the sun as it progresses across the sky. Their method of adapting the solar panel orientation may be based on solar heated fluid heated and displacing its weight, as it cools again? Did not look-up their patent app (if it is available to public view). If so (the heating fluid for weight displacement as it cools again, say behind a sun shield) sounds like a way too involved method of continuously orienting solar panels in vertical and horizontal modes to sun, for tracking). I may be wrong, but this idea sounds way over-priced for what it achieves.
MMMW seems a one-trick pony show that has not been able to provide much in way of revenues over its lifetime as company.
Normally, solar cell array orientation is accomplished by photocell activated stepper motors or relays geared. Lots of those around and very reliable. You can take two small solar cells . . . put a vertical card between them and when the sun moves . . . a shadow is case on one of the small solar cells and they are wired up such that the one still receiving sun send an EMF that trips a relay and the larger stepper motors or relays move the solar unit util both solar cell EMF are in the sun again and it shuts itself off. One also writes a computer program that adapts for seasonal sun orientation inclination.
MMMW product costs are way high and they have to build them as one-off single units for each customer.
Another pinkie stock company has spent years trying to get going a Fresnel Lens that can grab the sunlight and bend it on to a solar cell as the sun changes orientation as it moves across the sky. More sunlight directed on to a solar cell would increase its eff. Or, another such company is trying to gather atmospheric static electricity (compared to neutral ground charge differential) with a kite with a metallic wire to ground unit. Nothing yet. All three of these stocks are still .pk status.
There might be some research going on to determine if Memory Metal could be used to orient thin film solar cell coating, to bend with the sun as the metal is alternately heated and cooled, which changes its shape by torque forces.
Investors instead should be keeping a careful eye on this new purchase of a company that helps finance SCTY solar leasing. Is there perhaps a 'problem' retail investors are not in on yet? For example, solar cell output diminishs each year of the roof-top solar leased . . . and turns negative value arrangement for the customer? Solar cells 'age' kind of like car batteries. Can one terminate the solar lease then?
And, huge multinationals are not just going to stand by and watch while Mr. Musk continues to eat their revenue lunch. Grid based utilities stand to lose profit to this SCTY roof-top solar leasing and their business is controlling the production of electricity (not you). Leasing products and services is not patent able.
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SCTY AND HYPER LOOP?
Doubtful state of Calif. will move big to back hyper loop.
Calif. will probably end up with Chinese or Japanese High Speed Train, both countries will just wait and offer their HST version (USA too in debt to hope to build it. GE would be a possible partner to come into such an Asian centered and financed HST. Chinese have lots of property in this wider pacific coast area and expect to move in.
SCTY could provide the solar leasing model to power either the hyper loop (Mr. Musk has personal worth of $ over $7 Billion. Think of the hyper loop or whatever is to be, as a public/private funded transportation utility.
Right-of-way problems for hyper loop design.
It might just make sense to place light-rail along side the freeways which belong to state of Calif., and beat out all the idiot protests and money hungry property owners. Otherwise, there will be a new manned lunar colony before hyper loop can fight its way through all the objections (including security, solar-rights, etc.).
SCTY could electrify a super-upped Light Rail System and have a very nice long-range steady stock dividend for retail investors. Or, the Asians say hmm . . . we can do that too . . . and come over and build a solar-cell factory in USA. USA will have to chose Japan or China as HST partner(s), as both hold huge amounts of USA public debt. China, for instance, has a Glider Train design that travels above the highway on giant fin legs and makes a lot of sense economically and right-of-way points.
Unless SCTY can have first shot at all USA and state government contracts for leasing solar-cell installs . . . its business model may also be taken over by larger multi-nationals like GE Capital, etc. In fact, SCTY may not be able to handle all the new solar-install contracts that soon may arise, as everyone starts to see local self-reliant power as the only way to solve dawning USA Power Grid failure (Congress has no plans at this time, to handle it as they are too busy playing musical chairs).
I am watching SCTY.
One thing most of USA does not 'get' (though they will in next few years); is
current solar cycle and human activity increase on globe (BTUs and debris increase, etc.) is causing a drought and moisture alternating weather pattern worldwide. Businesses rarely admit (or plan for) ecological and cultural effects of their products, its placed off-books and kept 'dark'. this is considered good politics, all around.
Problem is you can never really out-run your hidden liabilities . . . witness
the effects of out-of-sight/out-of-mind . . . reality eventually piles up.
Government and the common can very be the backup plan B to handle our failures. We all live i and from the the common and have to travel through it. Some econometric models and thinkers believe technological advancement
and dynamic self-actualization psychology can propel us faster forward, then we are collapsing.
Eldon Musk is one of those special class thinkers and believers.
He lives in the present (not the past) and has his mind's eye on the future.
Witness Solar City leasing and product care model, Tesla EV models, Mining Near-Earth Astro-bodies for rare earths, etc., Mars colonization, Rapid Mass Transit Solar-powered Tube Transportation System, AI Singularity cyborg evolution for human species. Mr. Musk has unique ability (in our species) to approach innovation as open-end and not restrained by ideological and theological and dominance positioning issues.
He blends his projects asymetrically to bring support to each other.
Witness he places solar electric charging units on his EV recharging Stations and uses automated robotic arm units to exchange Tesla EV battery packs in a few minutes, to increase ease, confidence and respect in his EV users as they travel around. He understood America has to have a decent backup to the present out-dated grid system that is independent of petro economics and supplies (including natural gas and wind farms). His spirit of competition free enterprise style has caused great waves in
the energy sector business and transportation fields. He has also done an end-run around traditional business and banking . . . by his leasing models. He is doing what the Administration, Congress, and the FED banking interests have neglected to do . . . reduce citizen expenses and keep them in their homes safer and happier, provided investment in USA capital structure, USA worker jobs, real tangible Hope and Change.
He did not wait to see what others thought or might do . . . he did.
His technological leasing model is changing the table for everyone to the extent others have to follow and he is aiding bringing a real end to the recession humanity is in currently. He does not seek The Nobel Prize for whatever . . . he just does and makes it good for us all (if we stop to think about it). His business model adapts to all forms of technology.
As we keep having more mouths to feed and clothe and house . . . he does it without war and energy shortage. Our planet and species and the universe needs more like him. He does God's work (Good Work) without argument and costume. And, he is a new citizen amongst us.
I would have no problem with being a SCTY investor, as I can.
The management talent that leads his worker on the line and listens to their input is wise, reducing inflation and providing good wages jobs that pay taxes and reduce our deficit. His business models are open-ended to solar cell manufacturers and the eventual increase in solar cell % output eff. Mr. is much alike Mr. Honda was in directness, management style and
innovative freedom . . . as he made vehicles for all the world t use and admire.
Nice report.
I still have reservations about PHOT selling a large number of grow facilities. I could be wrong.
Expansion of the number of retail box stores is another problem for me.
Most businesses start by becoming profitable in one or two retail store locations and then expansion is continued. Coming earnings should tell us the story of whether sales and revenues are increasing. The USA economy is probably not really growing (only in a few areas out of many). Y;ou can pump housing, though unless foreigners with big $$s are buying them . . . I doubt many USA families just starting out are buying homes (they have to rent).
Which brings up the question of how PHOT is to pay the rent, the help, taxes, advertising, and order product for each store.
Phot is a still at shot at the moon.
How many growers are going to order big systems, unless they are sure USA administration will not seize them, or at least their product?
The MJ industry is having real growing pains (especially financing).
Thus we retail investors are the source of funding, which means we get diluted. I am still holding shares and do expect PHOT to prove its stuff in next 2-4 quarters.
I have invested in a few greenhouse stocks on the pink sheet circuit and virtually all of them are sub penny and showing no apparent ability to run a business, or simply the business is not there. As soon as they attempt to go retail physical plant, they find no buyers. Growers of flowers (greenhouses) have no legal problems to confront. A legal MJ grower will be the a lot like a commerical grower of medical herbs, and run a very tight ship. Most small businesses fail within 5 years.
I have made money in the MJ stocks, yet have noted it runs in cycles based on Prs. I doubt very many college student types will have the bucks to operate the kind of system PHOT sells.
Quite a good idea.
Urban grow system . . . check on U tube . . . some really nice graphics and design stuff for buildings done by artists, etc.
Wonder if city governments would fight yard grow containers (who wants local self-reliance and barter/trade with neighbors and friends and yard sales)? What an evil concept. Who would want healthy and happy and productive citizens! Call 911 immediately and put a stop to such wild and fantasy community. How dare mere citizens try to make a better common.
What a strange idea . . . the DC home boys will take care of you.
yes, lets say PHOT helps sales of 100-300 shipping container ready to plug-in systems to large growers in USA. How many will be actual MJ growers (as opposssed to nurseries and flower shops? That distinction probably will not matter if PHOT makes some $$s on it 'investment'.
PHOT seems to be following the TSLA EV sales model . . . start by selling stuff to the high-end cf crowd (they are mind/philosophy target able and have $$s.
Just imagine selling a grow container or two to a known media or film or music star. Hello Pr.
What is the selling price for a shipping container module grow system (probably not less than $75K including shipping transportation fees to customer site. I could be wildly off mark on the system price (either up or down).
Next question, how much will PHOT realize on each sale?
Maybe 10 to $20K? Another wild guess for profit margin. Anyone have any better $ figures?
What were the used shipping containers carrying before FSPN gets hold of them? Smart buyers might just want to have those facts, generally speaking.
I think the FSPN system is OK, but high priced (at least for poor folk).
Again, as per a recent post of mind), I would suggest that PHOT also have avialble for retail sale a grow manual and a bare-bones grow-kit.
PHOT Stock Price: nothing much showing yet . . . indeed we are sliding to go under .03 (maybe just for a very brief time). I doubt lackluster earnings upcoming would push us above .035 . . . unless someone steps in and purchases against the trend.
I just know congress and administration are working to make our economy improve (for them and their sponsors). Have your ever seen a rich guy that wanted the masses able to grow veggies at home?
Castro told the Cuban people to come and get seeds and tools and grow their own food and med verbals at home, to beat the embargo. PHOT thinks all kinds of folks in the USA are at the point where they want to undertake urban vertical farming. They are not even at the point of asking themselves why am I unemployed, but The Servers make money on my 'Free' search requests (why don't they share the money I make them).
One has to try hard to imagine 'loan-challenged' college students able to spot big $$s for grow systems. But the first person that develops a totally phone managed app to control and grow . . . he will be the king. Unless the ala maximo leader shuts it down.
Earnings will be 'confusing' for us investors . . . though long haul all MJ stocks will float up with the Bang Wave Effect.
PHOT needs more funding . . . and more then just sitting electronically online . . . ghosting for profits. This is the new work program . . . if we twit . . . they just come . . . right? Doubtful PHOT has any evidence asking customers what they want and need . . . they expect to just hope the middle class still exists, with its buying power.
Or, they can get creative and figure out how to take food stamps in exchange for PHOT grow tech.
PHOT management should have crowd funded and then approached ZNGA to write them up a 'farm grow' online computer game for MJ. It could even be listed as an educational tutorial . . . and the clown could be in it to scare kids away. His avatar scares us all into investing, right? Big boost promo for Mental Health.
Lets all sit back and watch the seeds dry in the electronic sunlight (with our safety shades on, of course).
If they hired a hooker for janitor . . . they would get two for one, right?
Like a revenue stream.
Hello to all.
Looking to try this stock (in small amount) in my MJ portfolio.
Looks like stock is close to R/Split territory?
With present float and current stock price, not much sense in going below .001.
Too me, MMs cooperate right closely with insider owners of stock.
Take the stock too low and you end up with folks (retail investors) that have negative purchase emotions against the company.
IF this company has $ Millions in sales (say $2.5 mil last year), profits are not much over *$650K after all costs and income taxes? Looks like company will need much more in sales volume increase to boost its profits. How will they finance that?
Would this company be able to sell Hemp Oil refills for E-cigs?
I would think one could get that going as a revenue stream.
I expect all MJ stocks to float upward when more positive news comes out of Washington DC.
Here's a good one.
Washington State is trying to make effective Recreational MJ Use Law and get some feedback (that all states and Feds can use), and get MJ users to pay taxes. So what do the Feds Do? They raid medical MJ clinics/stores in Olympia, Wa. (State Capital). What a direct insult to Governor and legsilators and responsible groups trying to get legal MJ Recreational use going. Are Feds working for Pharma Big Manufacturers that 'want it all',
supporting street illegal pushers and growers, or totally confused in how to reach out to states that are trying to be legal? They sure know how to 'tap' the state National Guard Units, though, don't they. Looks like they have an Authority Complex.
Washington DC currently has medical MJ enacted, and soon to go for legal Recreational MJ. So, is administration directing DEA to go after MJ in DC too? Hope and Change it seems gets dropped other 'places'. the backyard boys are off limits?
PHOT did the 150 Mil shares to have 'trading paper' for taking over some small failing companies? Plus that lets their loan company have plenty to play with, at the same time? The management of PHOT also gets to sell for pay? What do we retail investors . . . get a 'dream'?
All the above is standard pink sheet A-OK territory.
It will be interesting to see how PHOT handles the earnings wordage.
Any sales will be amazing stuff. I hope PHOT is not just sitting in their 'stores' waiting for customers. Need to get out of the digs and reach out to potential customers. And, regardless of being repeatedly on some TV online Video promo show that's not getting to your audience of small time and bigger grower/greenhouse users. Handouts at colleges and in front of med MJ store-fronts (as such stores are not selling growing tech). Buy some lists and do a mailing. Go to home garden clubs . . . show your stuff and give a talk and listen to what folks want and need. I have this feeling this kind of stuff is not happening. You cannot sell used cars unless your willing to go out and spot some folks that have smoking, rattling, bad looking cars and either talk to them or put an ad on their windshield (come and see me . . . I have a car for you! I can make the payments fit your need . . . give me a call . . . I take trade-ins!).
I would love to hear how PHOT thinks they will finance/LEASE/rent out grow set-ups with user training and maintenence policies. No one ever follows up with customers and helps them become returning customers and gets word-of-mouth advertising. PHOT hire some folks that can service home greenhouses? Keep your customers happy and returning.
At least print up some free manuals that show how to use your tech.
If you have a question . . . call or stop bye.
Again, PHOT what systems do your have for the cheap growers . . . don't drive away low-income folks as customers! Never let a customer that comes through your doors leave without a free fact sheet about whats needed to have a home greenhouse, that lists a bare bones system and up to more extensive systems, based on skill-level and money cost.
Few of your potential customers will have an extra $1000 to drop on a basic grow system. But they would like to have a grow system. What does that tell you PHOT?
If your right . . . the MM can control the B/A on the way up, such that MM keeps small retail investors from profiting after buying lower?
And, then there is the famous R/Split scenario.
Lets see the earnings first.
Only hope I am seeing for PHOT, is it rises when all boats float upward on major MJ political news, etc.
Phot could hire a hooker for a janitor and make out twice?
See the problem with waiting for earnings that claim say 2000% increase quarter on quarter. When everyone starts saying 'I bot my grow lights at PHOT' . . . then (maybe) we get some good earnings.
Not trying to knock the stock . . . however I have bot small amount of certain MJ stocks and they rest at .001 or .01 and still trade daily millions of shares in very strange daily price range (very tight and almost impossible to trade on a profit).
Burning cash and retail investors provided it . . . where is the beef?
Maybe months to a year or so, until MJ industry kicks off?
Earnings whisper.com has earnings release after hours, and (.09) estimate.
Most visitors are green on present and future price of GLUU. Analysts are red.
Hmm . . . my guess we go down .20-.40 on -.09 earnings fulfillment? Why come out after hours release if their so great?