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The problem with your argument, Deadboy, is that you really DON'T know what you are talking about. You just throw mud against the Tivus wall and hope something sticks. That isn't KNOWING what you are talking about.
Now, to the remainder of posters, there are other ways to get reticent ceo's to respond. They would probably hurt any potential future of Tivus, but they are alternatives to just sitting and moaning. CEO's do not like telephone calls from "partners" who are being flooded with calls from investors trying to get information that their company should be sharing. I suggest SP give us some sign of cooperation by ungagging the TA asap. Other ideas are welcome. Let's gather ideas before beginning any action, and I suggest that anything we do be done en mass. R3
SP needs to understand the concept behind people investing in a "public" company versus a "private" one. Hiding information from shareholders while you thank them for their support and patience doesn't make a company public. Ungag the TA, Shiva, and start talking to us. If you are continuing to dump stock, tell us why. I think we probably have enough shares on this board to force a public meeting if we have to, and SP, this may be your technology, but that doesn't mean you should be the ceo. It is our company and I start getting a little testy when ceo's treat their shareholders like puppets. JMHO. R3
DMo, it's time to get the TA ungagged and get SP to stop the selling without explanation. I am assuming that this has to do with paying for accounting services that are needed to keep the stock "current" because like it or not, HOST will NOT do a partnership without complete and sound financial accounting of a partner. Like most small companies, Tivus is trying to pull off a champagne deal on a bath tub beer budget and the odds are against Tivus and its investors. He has stripped this company down and it is smaller than Newt Gingrich's campaign staff. I also hear that SP is planning the future on Romney's etch a sketch, and that ain't good. (No politics intended) So let's man up, SP, and talk to your shareholders about our corporate business. You know, the one WE invested in. GLTA. R3
Great you are back, Jwez!!!!! We are whole again. R3
While I must admit this gave me a scare, Bill, you also are a stand up guy and we all make mistakes. I have always thought Jwez a committed Tivus supporter and all his work seemed logical and honest. Bill, I've been thinking about the Cape and I think I smell ocean air!! Wow, the power of suggestion. GLTA. R3
Let just speculate that it is not unusual for someone who has averaged down to take advantage of a spike in prices to sell off and purchase more stock at what might be a bottom. Not a bad strategy if one is to make money.
By the way, Bill, been a long time since I was on the Cape. Planning on getting there this summer for a little R&R and family time. GLTA. R3
Sorry Blah!!! Getting old sucks and I should have asked Bill about Philly. I think he knew what I meant, but hey, who knows. If Tivu is still getting independent reviews of satisfaction, then I will assume we move forward and wait of SP. Waggett, can you weigh in. I understand you are big into Tivus and still believe the system and company will succeed. As for Jwez, I can't speak. He is posting on others boards, but not for several days. GLTA. R3
Yes, he is. Bill, have you been in the Marriott in Boston to see Tivus? I would think with your location you have been there. R3
Jwez told you he sold all his shares on the last run up? Yes or No.
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Great $33 buy! It happens going up and going down. R3
Buyers want this thing back into the three's, and I would buy if that happens. Another million or two won't hurt. We shall see, but this close to month's end might mean someone is going to get skinned if they dump shares at .0003 or .0004. GLTA. R3
Brokenarrow, I hear what you are saying and I don't disagree about the top side of pennies. Perhaps more importantly is what Host's requirements will be in that area.
Thanks for the good feedback and I think sooner than later Tivus will make another journey north, but it will require something of substance like that long awaited agreement with Host around Philly. I think (JMHO for everyone else) that if there is one partnership announcement, it only makes sense for it to be more expansive than just Philly. A partnership that is a true business effort will include efforts in multiple locations. If not, I think that Tivus' future will not be good with Host. But, I think that in one sense, taking all this time is beneficial because it indicates that Host is in process of drafting details and agreements for what might be a significant partnership. Otherwise, dump them and move on and I know that Host will not be shy to do this if they have doubts. GLTA. R3
Brian, I have asked for as many factual statements AS POSSIBLE. As you have said in your statement, "Nobody on this board can post anything 100% factual because nobody knows what's going on here."
So here is the big "non-factual" things I alluded to: 1. Tivus has to uplist (SP has already said this!). 2. A RS is more than likely then a buyback if Tivus has no money (duh!) 3. They are creating a partnership with Host (SP said that on the talk radio) 4. It is going to take time to complete a complicated partnership (SP has said this and to that I would add, "DUH!"). This just isn't hard to extrapolate from what has been said by SP. Now, if you think him a liar, then there are no facts. Period. GLTY. R3
I try to make as many objective and factual comments as possible. But let's face it: You don't know what I know. For all you know, I may be SP! If you think my comments don't hold water you are more than free to comment about them, and by the way, you have. Let's just agree that this board runs the gamet from pure bunk to absolute truth. You get to chose what you want to follow or reject. GLTY. R3
I totally agree, Yellowdog. This deal is done and the future is very bright. The next step is Tivus uplisting to another stock exchange and the recent dilution (and it is necessary dilution) is for their audit expenses. They won't get that revenue until the uplist is finished and Host finishes the contract. The uplist is a MUST from Host's perspective. Fortune 500 companies won't finalize a partnership with a pinky stock company. So, it is the QX or QB that is on the horizon, and why I think that a RS is closer than we think. Personally, I see the RS as a necessary inconvenience. Without capital, SP can't do a buyback. R3
I believe that Host (Marriott) will or hased signed a partnership with them. Tivus has fulfilled their part of the workout, and now it is up to Host to finish the details. The current delay is the legal work to complete a partnership agreement, finish negotiations with Tivus as to their future path, and finish the framework. Implicit in the framework will be other hotels, perhaps the whole Host network over time. With this in effect, Tivus can become a real revenue company (they are in transition at the moment) and preferred share buy backs and financing will take place. June the 1st should be the date of completion of the partnership. GLTA. R3
As I asked earlier, anyone want to venture a comment on a "partnership"? Come one, folks, you guys are wanting to talk trash, but no substance? What does a partnership mean to both Host and Tivus? GLTA. R3
In re-listening to SP on his most recent interview, it struck me that Tivus wants a partnership with Host. "No one else does this." is what I believe I heard SP state. So, this is not merely a simple deal where we contract with an outside firm to provide a service. It is much more detailed and legally complicated. It takes time to solidify.
"Partnership agreements are written documents that explicitly detail the relationship between the business partners, as well as their individual obligations and contributions to the partnership. Since partnership agreements should cover all possible business situations that could arise during the life of the partnership, the documents are often complex, and legal counsel in drafting and reviewing the finished contract is generally recommended. If a partnership does not have a partnership agreement in place when it dissolves, the guidelines of the Uniform Partnership Act and various state laws will determine how the assets and debts of the partnership are distributed."
If, indeed, this is just not a statement that SP has confused in translation, this is much more complex and moves us beyond a "contract" to a complex business relationship that I would view as very beneficial, but also potentially limiting. On the good side Host would be providing more business guidance for Tivus, but on the negative side, this relationship could also limit Tivus to restricted business with their partner, Host. That shrinks the market considerably. However, I doubt that is Host's intent. Growing this market would be in their interest.
I would love to hear from a few more folks relative to this relationship. We may have been stumbling over one of the most important elements of this Philly Marriott deal. GLTA. R3
Blahdude, here is the problem. We know about Tivus being a sponsor by the information posted publicly by Marriott!!! So when you say just some DD published by an unknown, that is not true.
Here is something else for all us, self included, to consider. I suppose that if SP was really into moving this company along by PR, he WOULD be posting every little tidbit he could dump into the public marketplace. The fact that he isn't, probably means that he either doesn't have time, doesn't care, can't, or doesn't want to be seen as a pumper. If he was into moving this company sp up, I think he would find the time to be pumping this puppy at every opportunity. After all, some think he is a "snake in the grass". He must not "slither" very well. R3
Great Question, Mark. I think that the bottom of the chart is probably in the .0004-.0003, but the latter will be tough to reach. If we don't get any more news, I think it would be a while before the bottom is reached. Two weeks ago the MM's put their feet on the sell brakes, and this stock took off. IT is easy to keep the price depressed, and almost none of it has to do with Tivus and their product! Sad, but true.
If SP would work harder at giving out information on the current operations of Tivus in Philly, that would help. He doesn't have to tell us all the details, but even a read of the manager's comments in Philly would be helpful. IF they had no comments, why did Tivus drop $10,000 to be a sponsor? That would be a waste. So, to SP, chat up your company, dude!
Finally, no one hangs around just to save all us poor, stupid investors from ourselves. The dumpers are here to push the price down so they can buy low. Any other reason is nonsensical. GLTA. R3
No, deadboy, I am not saying the same things as you. NEVER,EVER did I say that SP was a "Snake in the grass!" And I do not necessarily see a RS as a negative factor. There are circumstances under which a RS is a very positive and beneficial move. Those things must take place in a framework of other positive moves. You see, you post statements that are so negative that you have lost your perspective, and that is a shame. GLTY. R3
During the last Radio interview he did mention a buy back as an option. I thought he also said all options were on the table. But that being the case, I think this is where SP gets himself into trouble. Like anyone else, you hope to do that which pleases your shareholders. He knows that a buy back is a big preference to his shareholders, and an SP IS NOT! So, he indicates his preference. We all want a buy back so that is what WE HEAR. I think I hear a future comment, "He said he would do a buy back and he lied to us!" Let's all remember this. He did not promise a share buy back, and if I had to guess, I would still say that a RS is still the odds on favorite. GLTA. R3
The contract with Host is going to be tied to $ figures and that audit and uplist. Their past history of routinely missing audit dates gives one pause. The ad insertion revenue is by far the devil in the details, however. I hope that SP can give out some good information on one or both of these, but I really don't expect to hear. Some of that is just self protection, given SP's history. GLTA. R3
I have no idea, but I think that any uplisting is beneficial and necessary to close a deal with Host. That, in itself, is helpful because I just can't see Host doing a deal with a pinky and huge number of shares in the OS. This would probably precipitate an RS unless Tivus has $'s to spare. 100-200 to 1 seems logical, but painful if the price cannot hold. I AM NOT IN Favor of an RS UNLESS Tivus just doesn't have the money to do a buyback, and I am not in favor if contracts are NOT tied to the uplisting/RS. I am pretty sure they (Tivus) have no money or this dilution would cease, so I am mentally preparing myself for the RS. Hope I am wrong. GLTA. R3
Acquisitions and mergers have to make sense for both companies. When you are in Tivus' position they probably are overvaluing the "dream" and don't see the need to give up what might be a killing IF Host steps up. I doubt if Lnet feels they have any need for Tivus at this point, and I don't think would express any interest until Tivus is more of a threat and the company further along. Who wants a "maybe" when if they wait 2-3 years they can pick it up on the cheap. Of course, the other side of that coin is if Tivus starts taking their business and moves to buy out Lnet, only possible in the future. I just don't see it, but I can see them eyeballing each other at this conference, like a couple of hungry competitors. GLTA. R3
Mark and Brian, I just found out that SP flew out this p.m. to Bermuda with a million of Marriott's money!! You guys were right all along. I'll try to get an update when I talk to my sources in the government.
JUST KIDDING!! I know that wasn't nice, but I hope you don't take offense at my "dark" humor. I hope, sincerely, that everyone can benefit from what SP says is his dream. I still am banking a lot on Host's giving Tivus an open door. IT IS A HUGE GAMBLE, but my wife bought a scratch off today and won $3!! and I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. Got to be a good sign, and hope that soon we get getter PR and MoMo from Tivus. Have a restful weekend and GLTA. R3
I have no idea what the last dilution went for, but it could have been to pay for the audit. It was over 100,000,000 shares. Is that close? R3
"Tivus did this, Tivus didn't do this. Did not, did too!" Really? You all bought your stock and these silly arguments are like watching a group of kindergarten kids. Tivus exists, it may or may not be getting it's financial house in order, you all own stock (or did) and you will just have to wait. It seems to me if you can't offer anything buy hype or negative dumps, just dummy up. Silly. R3
BTW, did anyone else see the CNBC China report last night? The one thing I am pleased with to date is that Tivus doesn't apparently use tons of Chinese made products in their technical hardware.
It is interesting how this Communist controlled country seems to be kicking our competitive tail. For all our talk about capitalism and freedom, good old abuse of human capital and strong government control mixed with individual entrepreneurs seems to control the day. Maybe Tivus can get into the Peking Hilton, which is right across the street from a sweat shop on Mao Tse Tung avenue! (Just kidding). GLTA R3
Dmo, thanks for your PM. You are so helpful in a dispassionate way that makes it easy to ask for your help. With all the extremes posted here, you manage to keep your posts balanced and on target. Thanks again.
I doubt if the Marriott managers came to Philly to play with Tivus. But what I don't doubt is that Marriott has given Tivus a chance to put their tech into a $60 million revamp of their flagship hotel in the northeast. 26 companies were examined and only 1 chosen. NOW, where do we go from here? I say it all has to do with $ return from the ad insertion tech. IF the money comes in, and if Tivus can seemingly get it's corporate house to look like a real company, it can still move forward with Host. SP says we are 60-90 days away. The clock is ticking and rather than get into a big fight with those who want to view life from the rear view mirror, all any of us can do is wait and see. SP, it is put up or shut up time and the deadline is the first of July, 2012. BTW, it is put up or shut up time for Host as well. You've got your $2 million worth of goodies, now act like someone and make a decision. No company can survive without revenue and a business commitment. GLTA. R3
No Buzzie, you seem to know so why don't you tell me. Just make sure the information you give me is factual, not subjective. I look forward to your response. R3
Help me out, Nic. You know this, or you think this? You are a good poster and I want to make sure I am not Misunderstanding you. If you can, go further into why this tech isn't Tivus. Thanks. R3
Another market idiom: The market is always right. Good, bad or indifferent, Tivus is where it is. R3
Communication in Tivus to it's shareholders has been a problem. Perhaps the idioms and language of Shiva's native land (in this I am making an assumption because he may well be born in the US) have contributed to any mis-understandings. Having traveled overseas occasionally has made me realize that what is mentioned in one language quite often does not translate the same and can cause confusion. This is another reason I try to give SP wide leeway in his press releases.
JP, here is something else for us to consider. When a person's accent is only pointed out surrounding a person of color (white Europeans, for instance rarely result in immigration questions)then racism cannot be ruled out as the cause of the comments. Let's just say that feelings of discomfort around such conversations should put us all on guard. I am uncomfortable with references to his accent or immigration issues surrounding Shiva, the ceo of Tivus. GLTA. R3
Blahdude, I totally agree. SP doesn't have enough capital to do that at the moment, and he may never decide to do that. It is much easier to do a RS. I believe the latest dilution was in response to Marriott going to SP and saying, "We don't do business with pink sheet companies, and we want to do business with you. You've got to get this company uplisted." That means audits and financial reports, and filings with heavy attorney fees. I think that SP got together with the MM's, and they said that there wasn't enough share price at these levels to make it worth their risk. The MM's took their foot off the accelerator to gain share volume and price, and SP got the money he needed to pay for an uplist. Nothing else even makes any sense to me, and this is JMHO. I believe we will see a substantive RS BEFORE we uplist, and I expect that within the next 90 days. TIVUS HAS TO HAVE THIS CONTRACT WITH HOST, REGARDLESS OF SIZE to realize SP's dreams. And by the way, it just makes no sense that SP is some how trying to swindle his company out of WHAT? THERE ISN'T ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. My gosh, if people want a good swindle, get the company up in value. This penny ante stuff is just nuts, IMHO. GLTY. R3
Vulcan, the market on Tivus is controlled by the MM's. They get huge amounts of stocks at bargain prices and discounts for their "loans". SP took toxic financing to get all the work done in Philly, and when you do that you are at the mercy of the MM's. The good news is these folks don't like losing money, but the bad news is they run on trading programs that generally keep the price low and profits on slim margins. The week before last they finally stood back to view what would happen if they let their foot off the trading brake. That is how the stock took off and finally started acting like it will IF the MM's ever decide to stop manipulating the price for their trading benefit. IF Tivus gets a contract for Philly and 10 other hotels for $30 mil. the MM's will still control the market and can manipulate the price anyway they choose. Much of the silly arguing that goes on here refuses to recognize this reality, and so many people turn their wrath on SP for his actions. My take: Didn't have any choice. Do the job, or kiss it good bye. So we are alive today and hoping for Tivus to finish Philly for a contract with Host. Probably no contract for 30-90 days. Just remember, all the talk about price per share is so much blather. MM's will determine that now and in the future. No one knows for sure. GLTY. R3
Visualizing your future and living to it. R3
"Renovated guest rooms boasting the latest technology" Philadelphia Downtown Marriott.
Ascientific, I appreciate your positive direction and following the secret. We learn very quickly in life that over 90% of physical illness is caused by mentally induced struggles. The body collapses under the stress of negative thinking. Spent last night talking to a family who have been suffering because of the mental and negative abuse brought on by a negative and sick family member. If Tivus succeeds (and it certainly has that capacity) you can either claim good luck, or a belief in the capabilities of Shiva Prakash, regardless of where he comes from. I know he is doing his best and I doubt seriously that he has ever taken on this kind of project before. You do make mistakes. I am rooting for him, and willing to try to walk a few miles in his shoes before passing judgement. R3
I doubt that SP will ever announce any ad insertion revenue. We won't know if it has been successful until a contract is let. That will be the verification. GLTA. R3