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chinito; Have to agree again...a merger (or aquisition) is the only viable answer to this puzzle. Logic would dictate that Marshik wouldn't bother to hire a marketing/PR firm that charges $10K/month (or stock options --- per something I found on Google) to 'launch' a new website , only to brag about the fact that his only corp. asset is a semi-worthless piece of land in the desert (I'm familiar w/ the Desert Hot Springs area).
Although Marshik has historic ties to a few other ventures , he also has some history w/ the entertainment industry. They've previously stated that they're out of that biz now but ... things change ... who knows (not me). I know of no current ties.
I also suspect that most, if not all of Marshik's biz affairs are conducted on his behalf by his lawyer , perhaps even to the point of "power-of-attorney" , for the benefit of Marshiks' heirs. Marshik may well just be a 'figurehead' so to speak... nothing wrong w/ that as long as it produces results. GLTUA
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richfromoil; "SARO" is that "exception" & if you didn't think so, why would you even be here !?! Nevermind , don't answer that ... who knows what your motives are here.
No mattter what you , I or any of us iHubbers think -- one way or another -- this rock solid , proven, 'bricks & mortar' conglomerate will succeed beyond all expectations.
chinito: I agree..also like your DD.....
Your Hemiwedge DD was the best possibility I've seen posted here so far. As for BHWF continuing to be a real estate fixer-upper contractor --- I don't think thats going to happen. That requires: hands-on managers, employees' , money and most of all "time"...waiting for the market to come back --- BHWF doesn't have 'any' of these things. Especially "Time"; Frank Marshik is 82 years old and lives in a retirement community ...'time' is something he just doesn't have much of.
Knowing this; logic would dictate that if he wants to 'start-up from scratch' again , he'll need to be part of an already established 'turn-key' enterprise of some sort ... something like Hemiwedge for example.
Mick; read post #11803 eom
Majic; I know you're correct & can"prove it"........
I'm going to have to step in here as part of this is my (presumably) fault , along w/ the erroneous inferred info posted by the BHWF IR contact on the BHWF website ... (see below). Although I never told anybody to put anything in the iBox , I was the one who 1st called attention to the Outcast link w/BHWF...(see post#11738) in an honest effort to find some needed 'good' news for this much maligned stock. I was the one who 1st uncovered the 'Other" Terminus Inc.(Frank Marshik's Terminus) ...see post# 11521 --- a "fact" that had to be force-fed to the 'mod' here by none other than the CEO of the 'wrong' Terminus, Eric Reeders Terminus of Texas ...see post# 11572.
This new data got started by my noting that the new(?) BHWF investor relations contact title reads as follows: "Outcast Communications" Greg Brandt ph.# 858 509-9900 [sound familiar ?] e-mail: IR@outcastcommunications.com ....see 4 yourself; http://www.blackhawkfund.com/contact_us.htm
Hence, as logic would dictate , Greg Brandt was an employee of Outcast Communications ... or so I thought , and posted as much in my post#11738.
Caveat: In that post, I also made mention of the fact that Outcast Communications is a San Francisco based company & it was odd that the contact ph.# has an 858 San Diego prefix (I know, I live in S.D.).
In a continuing effort to do follow-up DD (& avoid things like the Terminus debacle), I kept digging & found that Greg Brandt (same ph.#) is the company contact at Outcast Marketing w/ its associated link to Outcast Traders ... see; http://www.outcastmarketing.com/index.php/contact_us (**notice the contact name & ph.#). After finding this , I immediately notified the iHub board (in bold letters) ... see post# 11769 of the error but, nobody paid any attention.
Now I see that you've uncovered another link in the chain w/ this Outcast Companies Inc. info --- all 3 ('not' including Outcast Communications of S.F) are linked , see: http://www.outcastcompanies.com/index.php/static/communications ... note the Outcast Traders link ----- in turn , Outcast Traders is linked on the Outcast Marketing website well.
God this is getting old ... I'm doing all the moderators work for him ... for free.
Again , my apologies for my part in this but as you might well note , Greg Brandt got this started by posting "Outcast Communications" in his original contact info on the BHWF website.
Funny, this stock has its own 'fan club' that operates completely independent of iHub, a fact that can be seen by the low# of posts here. I know not , where they operate out of (but would like to know)...its not Yahoo or Google finance , which are riddled w/ trash-mouths. Even funnier, is the fact that despite EDWY having absolutely no proven value (profits or earnings) of any kind, the pps continues to ride high (recently up to .053 cents) strictly on the basis of their 'fan clubs' anticipations. Thats not to say thats a bad thing .... more of a curious lesson in 'trading psychology'. I got into this at .0024 based on my observations of past IT trading behavior (Google/Apple fan clubs etc.) and sure enough , it took off.
For their (& my) sake , I hope their hopes are met. Rock-on EDWY
Rocket?..more like a "Lead Balloon".....now that the dust has settled a little, I hope there'll be 'something of value' in their 'cookie jar' (upcoming 10Q filing) in a few weeks. I hope, I hope.
Giddee-up !
Uncle ! ... have mercy FGS
That 50K@.0016 was me..your turn@.0017 now
Ionized; I like your idea..count me in..anything to get out of this 'ball & chain' called SYNJ
Still green ? .. I wish... .not by a long shot
Define: Coming "Soon"... http://syndicationinc.net/coming_soon.php
Just 'when' is that... 'what' does "soon" mean to SYNJ ... how long has that text been up there anyway ?
And, what about the supposed 'solar' & 'wind' segments of Pinnacle .. haven't heard a word about them (unless the 'wind' is meant to describe the hot air flowing around this stock).
In need of 'facts' here !
post# 61315 speaks for me & large #'s of us as well
Beginners luck... got yourself a winner here....maybe yes, maybe no on those figures but whatever the case, its certain to rise and keep on rising over a lenghty period. Just hold tight and you're set.
CORRECTION: Outcast Communications , pls. be advised......
To avoid a repeat of the confusion between the "two" Terminus's , I'm double-checking all my facts .... including my mentions of Outcast Communications. You might remember my mentioning this earlier in a couple of posts. Blackhawk's website shows: Greg Brandt (ph.# 858 509-9900) as being the PR contact w/ IR@outcastcommunications.com being the contact e-mail address. From there ; I Googled 'Outcast Communictions' for DD and came up w/ http://www.outcastpr.com/contact.html a hi-profile PR firm from San Francisco.
Upon further investigation , I've come to the conclusion that there is a very good chance that Outcast Communications Inc. (of San Francisco) is "not" the PR firm for BHWF. I suspect it is actually: http://www.outcastmarketing.com/index.php/contact_us (**notice the contact name & ph.#) & their affiliate: http://www.outcasttrader.com/
Understand this , I'm not accusing BHWF or their PR firm of anything wrong ... its quite likely that BHWF isn't even aware of this and for his part , Greg Brandt may have entered the confusing e-mail address (IR@outcastcommunications) as in to: "communicate w/ outcast" (it may just be a matter of semantics) ... still , the fact that there is an (apparently) unrelated firm that also does PR work , that goes by that name ... gives cause for clarification.
I started to send an e-mail inquiry w/ further details to the IR@outcast...... address , but thought better of it because I've already inadvertently pushed my luck w/ Blackhawk a little too far (there lawyer was getting a little PO"d at me).
If someone here doesn't mind , you're free to e-mail them yourself for clarifiction. I've composed the following e-mail for this purpose ... feel free to copy and paste that section of this.
Please let us know how it turns out. Thx.
e-mail text:
Greetings;
This e-mail address is listed as "Outcast Communications" , the IR contact for the Blackhawk Fund Inc. on the Blackhawk Fund website ... see; http://www.blackhawkfund.com/contact_us.htm
and the name: Greg Brandt (ph.#858 509-9900) is shown as the IR contact.
As you likely know , Outcast Communications Inc. is a high profile PR firm based in San Francisco w/ another office in New York ... see; http://www.outcastpr.com/contact.html
My inquiry consists of the following:
**Are you in-fact , affiliated w/ Outcast Communications Inc. of San Francisco (as is the impression given on Blackhawk's website) ?
**There is no mention of a Greg Brandt or a Del Mar office on the Outcast Communications Inc. website ...see; http://www.outcastpr.com/about.html & http://www.outcastpr.com/contact.html
Which shows no links or mention of the following (presumably related affiliates ?).
**Outcast Marketing (w/ its link to Outcast Traders) which shows Greg Brandt listed as the 'contact' as well ... see; http://www.outcastmarketing.com/index.php/contact_us
There are no posted links to Outcast Communications and the client list appears quite different than Outcast Communications'.
**According to a post on iHub , an e-mail was sent to this e-mail address (Outacst Communications) and a response (presumably from Greg Brandt ?) apparently came back to another investors inquiry , with the name Outcast Traders attached ... see; http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=39891819
**Please clarify the association w/ Outcast Communications Inc. , if any. If there is no affiliation , I'd suggest you make that clear on the Blackhawk Fund website to avoid any confusion or suggestion of impropriety.
Thankyou for your time ..
An interested Blackhawk Fund (BHWF) stockholder
Outcast's 3 main divisions ....
1. http://www.outcastpr.com/ *this is the premiere site --"launch's" etc.
2. http://www.outcastmarketing.com/ *multi-task oriented incl. SEC compliance
3. http://www.outcasttrader.com/ *& see "related links" at bottom of page
No matter what..we've got a WINNER here folks.
Thx.China: was there any more to that msg. ?
The reply (I'm guessing it was from Greg Brandt) mentions questionS (w/ an "S") but there is only "1" question that he replied to. Was there anything else or was that it ? Either way , its really nice to get an answer to "investor questions" from BHWF and his answer seems to indicate that there may be an announcement (maybe yes, maybe no) that comes w/ their 10Q filing in a few weeks (keeping my fingers crossed here). Seems likely because I don't think they have any more required statutory (scheduled) 10Q's at this point (last one was in May of '09 as I recall) which tells me that they have something ( a change) to announce. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but ... thats the way it looks to me at this point [IMO]----- what do you think ?
Even by the WCS, we are worth .02 to .04 cents "right now".... nevermind the distractions (everyone is entitled to an opinion & 'knowledge' for better or worse , is a 'good' thing). Holding 'long' here.
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Wait just a minute here...maybe BHWF is something after-all......
I didn't notice this before but on BHWF's new website , it lists " Outcast Communications" as there PR firm ... see 4 yourself (scroll to bottom of page): http://www.blackhawkfund.com/contact_us.htm
These people are no cheesey outfit , they have a very impressive list of clients: http://www.outcastpr.com/clients.html
They are also "Launch" specialists: http://www.outcastpr.com/services.html
Now why would an old guy w/ nothing but a small piece of desert property for a corporate asset need an expensive uptown PR firm like this ? ..... hmmm.
This may be something left-over from earlier times that wasn't washed from an older website but , if the status is 'current' ..... well , you be the judge. I'd call them up to verify their account w/ BHWF but I've already pushed my luck w/ BHWF. Perhaps one of you could do the honors on Monday and let us know how it turns out. There is one odd thing about the listed contact ph.# for Outcast ... its a San Diego (same city Frank Marshik lives in) prefix (858) yet , Outcast's offices are in San Francisco & New York......probably nothing but I just thought I'd throw that in.
Think I might just have to cancel my active GTC sell orders (500K @ .0023 ---my cost).
Dragon; Sure, its possible and your thoughts on envir.permits is a very good one too. There are any number of possibilities here and quite possibly a 'gauntlet' of agencies that could (or could not) be involved. I know what you mean about Williamsburg Co,'s primitive website ..... couldn't find much recorded info there either. Neither Williamsburg nor Berkeley Co's had an actual permit 'look-up' function ... thats why I switched to looking back thru Berks'. planning commission minutes etc etc. As mentioned , I didn't find one word but thats not to say it doesn't exist ---- just looking for the 'facts'.
For a look at what matters to the SC bio-energy promoters , together w/ a bunch of names (didn't have time to read them all) related to bio-energy projects ongoing as of Dec. '08 , see the attached link (may be of some help): link; http://www.energy.sc.gov/publications/Biomass_Brief-12-08%20_2_.pdf
I'll try to chase down some info from the source you mentioned as well ---
between you , don't-snow-me , myself and others(?) .... maybe we can get some answers here.
Thx. for the suggestions
don't-snow-me: Your theory has merit but knowing how 'everybody' (multiple agencies , w/ lenghty review processes) in this modern world that is in a position of authority wants to get in on the action (to create a job for themselves) , I'd give odds that the approval process on these projects (no matter how 'cookie-cutter' it is) would take some time to get thru (and some public disclosure as per likely requirements) ------ in many regions (I know we're talking about S.C. here) , a project like this might well take a few years and a multitude of hearings to get approved.
Thx. for helping me beat this bush and yes; I did see your earlier post on this approach --- thats what got me thinking in these terms. Guess we'll just have to keep comparing notes till we get something. Regards.
Hoping for the best here (and looking for "facts").
don't-snow-me ... True but as a general rule, planning commission hearings (& likely land purchases .. if not being leased) come well beforehand and as a general rule , are a long drawn-out process. Their may well be another as yet un-identified regional power authority that handles the particulars but even still, 'something' should show-up at the county level. The county websites appear to be grasping for (even boasting about) any positive employment & new green enterprises news ... seems they'd likely jump on this for their own PR.
Not bashing here --- Just interested in the "facts".
Spent last few hours scouring .gov websites for Williamsburg & Berkeley Counties in So.Carolina along w/ the S.C. state energy website for any mention of 'any' of Syndications connections or possible future affiliates (you know the list)....... nothing --- permits, deeds, planning commission hearings etc. .... not a word. The closest I found was a seperate bio-mass company planning a start-up bio-processor for waste fats & oils (from restaurants etc.) at the Berkeley Co. dump.
I'm a building contractor w/ a lot of knowledge on the permit process , and the documentation thereof ... and I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that in this age of publicly accessible IT record-keeping , they can fly completely under the radar like this.
Prove me wrong .... please !
Thx.4 input guys, a little smarter here now, but guess I'll have to get used to the idea that my dilusions of grandeur about having this rock solid stock finance my retirement were just dreams. With an R/S , my 1MM share count is down to 10 or 40KK and even if value parody is reached (& maintained) , I will have still lost my 1MM count "multiplier". Still better off than I was before but ............. what if !?!
pwrbal; So let me get this straight , (sorry, I'm a newbie at this) if an R/S were occur per your example ... my 1MM shares would be reduced to 10KK shares. I'd be o.k. w/ that if the pps rose on an equal basis as well but , based on a few examples I've heard of , thats not necessarily the case. The examples were worth far less than expected ... possibly as a result sell-offs by freaked-out investors or ??
Do the common share investors have 'no say' in this process or ?
Would appreciate your input on this.
Thx ....... just trying to get up-to-speed here.
Feeling really good about SARO's prospects and am amazed it hasn't blasted-off already. As mentioned by others , this is quite likely to change once they formally announce their name (& symbol) change (along w/ some added PR &/or list w/ OTCBB) later (soon ?). There may also be some hesitation due to the high A/S count ... sure would help if they rescinded a few billion of those (not a reverse split of the O/S).
Either way; I'm feeling really good about SARO's established 'brick's & mortar' holdings w/ a proven revenue stream ...... a welcome change from my 'ball & chain' holdings in BHWF & SYNJ.
FYI: the (possible?) Hemiwedge connection ...
Just to keep this possibility from dropping off the board, I thought I'd refresh this subject for the benefit of those craving some viable DD info or anyone that missed the following important posts this week.
**post# 11499 by 'chinito' .... a possible connection between Hemiwedge (HWEG) and BHWF.... something to think about anyway --- a whole lot better than the dead-end street called: Terminus Inc.
*** other events:
**post# 11521 .... the "OTHER" (missing) Terminus Inc. (the Nevada corp) revealed ---- 'just the facts' ----- both companies (BHWF & the Nevada corp. , Terminus) are owned by Frank Marshik.
**post# 11572 .... confirmation of post#11521 by the 'owner' (Eric Reeder) of the erroneously connected: Terminus Inc (the Texas corp). .... more 'facts'.
Agreed; "Holding Cards Close"---NOT working!
Revised "pre-launch plan" = delay ?
Most probably ---- will likely take awhile to work out the details and even that , is providing there are any participants in the private pre-launch viewing that are willing to have their trades restricted (a condition of viewing , to side-step 'insider violations'... or so they say).
That definitely wouldn't include me !
Too bad , I was planning on paying my mortgage with the proceeds from next weeks semi-pop , but now , w/ this unfortunate change of plans , who knows when that will occur.
Firebag1, I'm w/ you on all that, the only things I can figure is that one or more of the following is holding it back --- ...1. Confirmation of Fastech's merger and name (& symbol) change later this month .... 2. no 10Q filing until 2 months from now ....&/or .... 3. high O/S (1BB+) and a disproportionately higher A/S (4.5BB).
I sent an e-mail to Fastech yesterday , suggesting they reduce their A/S by 2 or 3BB (probably never happen but ... what if).
IMO
China: Reeder knows all about it ... read thru todays earlier posts , then you'll know too.
Seems to me, an apology is owed to BHWF as well. Although much maligned , BHWF never claimed to have been affiliated w/ Terminus "of Texas" ... Reeders' Terminus Inc..
BHWF was telling the truth all along. Per their filings; BHWF is indeed affiliated w/ Terminus Inc. .... the "OTHER" Terminus Inc., a Nevada registered corporation --- also owned by Frank Marshik. Likely an 'on paper only' entity.
Right from the horses mouth (ereeder himself); I think the 'moderator' (Mick) is in the process of updating this erroneous info. Thankyou 'ereeder' for taking this initiative ... we (as investors) , have been misled by this (apparently inadvertent) bogus info as well. Hopefully , the moderators will attempt to 'verify their DD as fact' before posting in the future.
Thatsa mo' betta'.... our MOJO's workin' now.