Clients of Magna Group and Hanover Holdings

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..."the complaint seeks permanent injunctions, disgorgement plus prejudgement interest, a civil money penalty, penny stock bars, and any other relief the Court may deem just and proper"....


joshua sason


ari sason


Release No. LR-24403

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SEC charges today for Sason and others.

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A long,long time ago...I can still remember when the music used to play...

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tracking here...info for the left coast boys

soon to be submitted

Pimpin AMBS

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Magna's dirty lawyers ?? Sichenzia Ross Friedman Ference LLP writing bogus and fraudulent opinion letters... LMAO. Magna and Sichenzia could be going down in flames very soon. You decide.

See Below... This is the law firm representing AMBS and Magna as well as other lenders in the TOXIC - illegal world that Sichenzia and Magna play in... proof is in the reading below.


52. Shortly before Granville stopped doing business with the Magna Group, in September 2013, Ari Sason complained bitterly about Yippy’s transfer agent. Sason emailed:
Transfer Agent instructions will be extremely tight and must be signed by T.A. (Pacific always pushes back on our TA agreements essentially making them worthless, we CANNOT agree to this under these circumstances)
Hanover shall have the right to immediately demand a Transfer Agent change if Pacific Stock, in any way, holds up any conversion.
53. A few months later, in March 2014, Magna’s lawyers sent a facially defective opinion letter to Pacific Stock Transfer, Yippy’s transfer agent, attempting to induce the Pacific Stock Transfer to violate securities laws by removing the restrictive legend on 200,000 shares of Yippy stock.
54. The letter from Sichenzia Ross Friedman Ference LLP dated March 21, 2014 to Pacific Stock Transfer on behalf of Magna with respect to its attempt to sell Yippy shares is deficient on its face.
55. First, Sichenzia states, “We have investigated such matters and examined such documents as we have deemed necessary and appropriate under the Securities Act and the applicable state laws.” It is clear that Sichenzia has not done so, because its Rule 144 analysis which follows, in the last paragraph on the first page (Yippy 0376) and the next three paragraphs on the second page (Yippy 0377), it makes no mention of the fact that, pursuant to subsection (i) of Rule 144, the safe harbor provided by Rule 144 is not allowed even if a one-year holding period is met in the event that the issuer is, or formerly was, a “shell company”, in the absence of 12 months of current reporting under Sections 13 or 15(d) of the Exchange Act (other than Form 8-K reports) and the filing of “Form 10 information” (17 C.F.R. 249.210 or 17 C.F.R. 249.220f) with the SEC.
56. This exception to the applicability of Rule 144 is plainly stated in the text of Rule 144 itself. Despite this, at no point does Sichenzia state that it has made any inquiries as to the absence of this exception from the applicability of Rule 144. Had Sichenzia done so, it would have noted that Yippy, in all of its OTC filings, very clearly notifies all potential investors that it is a former shell company, that it is subject to Rule 144(i)’s exception, and that investors cannot rely on Rule 144 for resales of securities.
57. The problems with Sichenzia’s opinion letter do not end with its flawed Rule 144 analysis, however. At no point in its letter does Sichenzia explain the means in which Magna acquired its shares or whether Magna was properly relying on an exemption from the requirement of a registration statement pursuant to Section 5 of the Securities Act, nor does it draw any conclusion regarding investment intent other than factually noting that the holding period for the shares is “in excess of one year”. However, particularly if Magna has not availed itself of a legitimate safe harbor from registration, the length of the holding period by itself may not be enough to establish investment intent.
58. By playing fast and loose with both the facts at hand and the application of Federal and state securities laws, Sichenzia attempted to induce the transfer agent to remove restrictive legends from Yippy’s stock in violation of securities laws.
59. This particular episode highlights the importance of the transfer agent in Magna’s death spiral. Magna needs a transfer agent to look the other way.

This is getting good, pop some popcorn and watch the show, it's going to get very interesting in the weeks ahead.

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Joshua and Ari Sason from Magna Group in deep sheet... coming soon.

see in the red below... good stuff

Here is another doc filed below...

RICHARD GRANVILLE (“Granville” or “Defendant”), for his Answer and
Affirmative Defenses to the Complaint filed by JOSHUA SASON, ARI SASON, and
MICHAEL ABITEBOL in the above-entitled action, states as follows on personal
knowledge as to matters relating to him, and on information and belief as to all
other matters:
ANSWER TO THE COMPLAINT
Summary of the Action
1. No response to Paragraph 1 is required.
2. The allegations of Paragraph 2 are denied.
3. No response to Paragraph 3 is required.
Preliminary Statement
4. The allegations of Paragraph 4 are denied.
5. Defendant admits that Bloomberg published a highly negative article about Joshua Sason and others on or about March 12, 2015 (the “Bloomberg Article”). Defendant further admits that he made certain communications referring to the Bloomberg Article, and refers to those communications for their terms. The allegations of Paragraph 5 are otherwise denied.
6. Defendant admits that he sent text messages referring to the Bloomberg Article and refers to said text messages for their terms. Defendant denies the remainder of Paragraph 6.
7. The allegations of Paragraph 7 are denied.
Jurisdiction and Venue
8. The allegations of Paragraph 8 are admitted.
Parties
9. Defendant denies knowledge and information sufficient to respond to Paragraph 9.
10. Defendant denies knowledge and information sufficient to respond to Paragraph 10.
11. Defendant denies knowledge and information sufficient to respond to Paragraph 11.
12. The allegations of Paragraph 12 are denied.
13. The allegations of Paragraph 13 are denied.
14. The allegations of Paragraph 14 are admitted.
Facts Relevant to All Claims
15. The allegations of Paragraph 15 are denied.
16. Defendant admits to posting messages containing the text quoted in Paragraph 16 and refers to the complete post for its full terms. Defendant denies Plaintiff’s legal conclusions as to same.
17. The allegations of Paragraph 17 are denied.
18. Defendant admits to posting messages containing the text quoted in Paragraph 18 and refers to the complete post for its full terms. Defendant denies Plaintiff’s legal conclusions as to same.
19. The allegations of Paragraph 19 are denied.
20. The allegations of Paragraph 20 are denied.
21. The allegations of Paragraph 21 are denied.
22. The allegations of Paragraph 22 are denied.
23. The allegations of Paragraph 23 are denied.
24. The allegations of Paragraph 24 are denied.
25. The allegations of Paragraph 25 are denied.
26. The allegations of Paragraph 26 are denied.
27. Defendant admits to the content of the quoted text in Paragraph 27, which Granville sent to Morton Fink. It is noted that Plaintiffs have omitted the final sentence of this text, which states: “You shouldn’t have lied to me you old bastard.” Plaintiff denies the remainder of Paragraph 27.
28. The allegations of Paragraph 28 are denied.
29. The allegations of Paragraph 29 are denied.
30. The allegations of Paragraph 30 are denied.
31. The allegations of Paragraph 31 are denied.
32. The allegations of Paragraph 32 are denied.
33. The allegations of Paragraph 33 are denied.
34. The allegations of Paragraph 34 are denied.
35. The allegations of Paragraph 35 are denied.
First Cause of Action
36. The foregoing paragraphs are incorporated by reference.
37. The allegations of Paragraph 37 are denied.
38. The allegations of Paragraph 38 are denied.
39. The allegations of Paragraph 39 are denied.
40. The allegations of Paragraph 40 are denied.
41. The allegations of Paragraph 41 are denied.
42. Defendant admits to the quoted statement and otherwise denies the allegations of Paragraph 42.
43. The allegations of Paragraph 43 are denied.
44. The allegations of Paragraph 44 are denied.
45. The allegations of Paragraph 45 are denied.
46. The allegations of Paragraph 46 are denied.
47. The allegations of Paragraph 47 are denied.
Second Cause of Action
48. The foregoing paragraphs are incorporated by reference.
49. The allegations of Paragraph 49 are denied.
50. The allegations of Paragraph 50 are denied.
51. The allegations of Paragraph 51 are denied.
52. The allegations of Paragraph 52 are denied.
53. Defendant admits to the quoted statement and otherwise denies the allegations of Paragraph 53.
54. The allegations of Paragraph 54 are denied.
55. The allegations of Paragraph 55 are denied.
56. The allegations of Paragraph 56 are denied.
57. The allegations of Paragraph 57 are denied.
58. The allegations of Paragraph 58 are denied.
59. The allegations of Paragraph 59 are denied.
60. The allegations of Paragraph 60 are denied.
61. The allegations of Paragraph 61 are denied.
62. The allegations of Paragraph 62 are denied.
Third Cause of Action
63. The foregoing paragraphs are incorporated by reference.
64. The allegations of Paragraph 64 are denied.
65. The allegations of Paragraph 65 are denied.
66. The allegations of Paragraph 66 are denied.
67. The allegations of Paragraph 67 are denied.
68. The allegations of Paragraph 68 are denied.
69. The allegations of Paragraph 69 are denied.
70. The allegations of Paragraph 70 are denied.
71. The allegations of Paragraph 71 are denied.

AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES
First Affirmative Defense
Plaintiffs fail to state a cause of action.
Second Affirmative Defense
Plaintiffs claims are barred by the truth of the challenged statements, which is an absolute defense.
Third Affirmative Defense
Prior to the publication of the challenged statements, Plaintiffs were widely known to be engaged in “pump and dump” schemes, naked short selling, and other abusive and unethical conduct; therefore, nothing that Granville said about Plaintiffs could have diminished their already dismal reputation.
Fourth Affirmative Defense
Any reputational harm sustained by Plaintiff, and any resulting economic loss, was a result of the Bloomberg Article published by Bloomberg, L.P. and Zeke Faux on or about March 12, 2015, and not Defendant’s subsequent reference to or commentary on said article.
Fifth Affirmative Defense
Defendants’ words were privileged, in that they were uttered in the context of a matter of common concern. Namely, Granville was speaking to the investing public and shareholders in Yippy about a matter directly affecting Yippy stock. Such communications have an absolute or qualified privilege.
Sixth Affirmative Defense
Plaintiffs have suffered no damages.


COUNTERCLAIMS
Defendant / Counterclaim Plaintiff Rich Granville (“Granville”), individually and in his capacity as representative of Yippy, for his Counterclaims against Joshua Sason, Ari Sason, and Michael Abitebol, and for his Third Party Complaint against Magna Group LLC, Hanover Holdings I, LLC, and Linda Black, alleges on personal knowledge as to matters relating to Granville, and on information and belief as to all other matters, as follows. Proposed Intervenor / Defendant / Counterclaim Plaintiff Yippy Inc. joins in this proposed Amended Complaint.
Parties, Jurisdiction and Venue
1. Defendant / Counterclaim Plaintiff Rich Granville is the CEO and majority owner of Yippy, Inc.
2. Plaintiff / Counterclaim Defendant Joshua Sason is a principal of the Magna and Hanover.
3. Plaintiff / Counterclaim Defendant Ari Sason is a principal of the Magna and Hanover.
4. Plaintiff / Counterclaim Defendant Michael Abitebol is a principal of Magna and Hanover.
5. Counterclaim Defendant Hanover Holdings I, LLC (“Hanover”) is a New York Limited Liability Company, with its principal place of business located at 5 Hanover Square, New York, New York 10004.
6. Counterclaim Defendant Magna Group LLC (“Magna”) is a Texas Limited Liability Company, with its principal place of business located at 5 Hanover Square, New York, New York 10004. Joshua Sason, Ari Sason, Michael Abitebol, Hanover, and Magna are collectively referred to as the “Magna Parties.”
Factual Allegations
I. Introduction
7. By filing a defamation Complaint, the Magna Parties have put squarely at issue their abusive and illegal business activities – activities that, according to the Bloomberg Article, have led to the destruction of many companies. Truth is an absolute defense to a defamation claim. Granville now has the right to conduct thorough and searching discovery into the business practices of the Magna Parties, who, by their own actions in filing a meritless defamation claim, have invited this intense scrutiny.
8. The Bloomberg Report noted the origins of Josh Sason’s business. Sason learned his craft from family friend Yossef Kahlon, who taught Sason the penny stock business:
Around 2009, Kahlon heard the Sasons were having financial issues. He told the elder Sason he could help. “I said, ‘Bring your son here, I’ll teach him to make money,’?” says Kahlon, who by then was in the penny-stock business.
The market for penny stocks can be traced back to the scrum of brokers who used to trade shares that weren’t welcome on the New York Stock Exchange. A 1920 article in Munsey’s magazine called them “a close-packed mass of creatures apparently human” and described the auctioning of shares in a puppy.

Penny stocks exist so that, say, an oil wildcatter with a hunch he’s about to drill a gusher can raise the money he needs without the hassle of listing on an exchange. They feed a desire for a hot tip that could double or triple. It’s a disreputable corner of the market. Many listings are bogus. Most are, at best, just a guy with an idea, and often that idea is to raise some money so he can pay himself a fat salary. Other listings are real businesses that have been dropped from the big exchanges because they’re on the verge of failure.
Kahlon paid brokers to scour the market for penny stocks with high trading volume, then call the companies to see if they wanted to issue new stock. These struggling companies can’t sell new shares to the public the usual way, by enlisting a proper investment bank, because it’s too expensive and the offerings too tiny. But they can sell to private investors such as Kahlon. They gave him steep discounts, and he’d sell the shares into the public market right away, often doubling his money as everyone else’s shares were diluted. There are laws against doing this, but Kahlon thought he spotted an exception in Texas. He incorporated his company there, while operating from New York.
Kahlon says he showed Sason how to trade like him—and then cut off contact so that no one could accuse them of conspiring. “I’ll teach you the business, but the minute you open, we can’t talk anymore,” he said to Sason. “I don’t have any friends in this business.” Texas corporate records show Sason incorporated Magna Group in the state in 2010, using the same mail drop as Kahlon.
9. Josh Sason’s mentor, who taught Sason to “trade like him,” has been found liable for securities violations. In SEC v. Kahlon, 2015 WL 5813239 (E.D.Tex., 2015), the court granted summary judgment against Kahlon for a host of securities violations. In its substance, Magna Group’s business (as described in the Bloomberg Article, and as confirmed by interviews with knowledgeable parties) is substantially identical to the Kahlon business.
10. Here is how the SEC has described Kahlon’s business:
Defendants’ business was simple: They bought deeply discounted penny stocks directly from the issuing company and immediately flipped the stocks to the public – sometimes before they even took possession of the shares – for the full market price. These underwritings were remarkably lucrative; defendants routinely doubled their money in a matter of days. Such exorbitant profits constituted a red flag that such underwritings weren’t permissible under the federal securities laws.
But that was merely one of several red flags that defendants ignored in the course of their lucrative scheme. The attorney on whom they relied for “opinion letters” was barred midway through their scheme from writing such letters. Defendants were on notice of this development; but they didn’t care. They simply hired another attorney to do their bidding.
They then lied to that attorney about their investment intent and their connection to Texas. They told that attorney they were purchasing the penny stocks for investment purposes – essentially buy-and-hold investors. In fact, their business model was predicated on flipping the penny stocks to the public as soon as they could unload them. And they posed as Texans in order to provide that attorney with the comfort they believed he needed to apply an exemption under Texas law. The truth – which they actively concealed – was they were New Yorkers through and through. As such, they had no business trying to take advantage of the Texas exemption. But for such lies, the attorney would have had no basis for the legal opinions the defendants needed for their lucrative stock transactions. Such egregious malfeasance compels the imposition of the requested relief.
11. Within the penny stock industry, two other companies in the Magna / Kahlon penny stock business have come under SEC investigation: (i) Curt Kramer, Asher Enterprises, and Mazuma Corporation and (ii) Edward Bronson and E-Lionheart Associates LLC (also known as Fairhills Capital).
12. Granville intends to establish that Magna’s investment in Yippy and other companies was part of a larger scheme to violate federal securities laws. Insofar as Magna’s contracts with Yippy (and other companies in which Magna invested) were a part of a scheme to violate federal securities laws, then those contracts are voidable. Under 15 U.S.C. § 78cc:
Every contract made in violation of any provision of this chapter or of any rule or regulation thereunder, and every contract (including any contract for listing a security on an exchange) heretofore or hereafter made, the performance of which involves the violation of, or the continuance of any relationship or practice in violation of, any provision of this chapter or any rule or regulation thereunder, shall be void (1) as regards the rights of any person who, in violation of any such provision, rule, or regulation, shall have made or engaged in the performance of any such contract, and (2) as regards the rights of any person who, not being a party to such contract, shall have acquired any right thereunder with actual knowledge of the facts by reason of which the making or performance of such contract was in violation of any such provision, rule, or regulation....
13. Granville intends to demonstrate that Magna’s investments in Yippy and similar companies were part of a scheme to violate securities laws. If Granville is successful, it will throw into doubt the validity of Magna’s contracts with many of its clients.
14. After the Bloomberg Article was published, Granville posted the following on an internet message board:
Now I want to touch on the recent press about Magna Group and Hanover Holdings. Yippy, Inc. is currently in litigation with Magna, whose CEO is Joshua Sason, as disclosed in our financial statements.
Yippy did not enter into the same kind of notes that caused many of the death spiral events as disclosed on Bloomberg. The "little trick" mentioned in that article is nothing more than Magna Group aka: Josh Sason working in collusion with Transfer Agents, a couple of law firms, and a FINRA regulated Broker Dealer.
Here is how it works.
1) A company enters an agreement with Magna Group or Hanover Holdings.
2) Joshua and Ari Sason then offer the CEO a large amount of money to change tranfer agents to someone friendly to their program.
3) Once a company changes transfer agents Magna Group's Josh Sason then reserves a large amount of shares with the TA which is the cause many of the death spiral events.
Now due to the case I will not disclose how they cause the death spiral, or the accounting for shares and value of same, but I can tell you that insider trading, wire fraud, mail fraud, bad faith, breach of contract and a substantial amount of illegal shorting are involved. The Bloomberg article also touches on the shorting aspect, but does not fully understand the depth and process.
Yippy did not change transfer agents and did not accept the bribe that came from Ari Sason and Michael Abitebol. We have hard documented proof of same. Magna then went to our Transfer Agent on their own to reserve shares and were denied. This only scratches the surface of how deep this rabbit hole goes with Magna Group and the entities working in collusion with Joshua and Ari Sason, as well as Michael Abitebol.
I can tell you this, with absolute certainty. FINRA and the SEC are aware of our case and our discovery requests, as of 3/12, which will without question expose the underbelly of a very tight group of co-conspirators working with Magna Group's Joshua Sason to destroy companies at will.
We certainly expect this case to open up a Federal Criminal inquiry as well. So for anyone to say that illegal shorting is not happening today I say without question, you’re wrong and we are going to prove it in a very grand way.
15. At or about the same time, Granville posted the following message on an internet message board:
As for Magna and Mr. Josh and Ari Sason the pain has only begun for these young men. It's almost sad how great and smart Joshua Sason thinks he is, yet nobody knows him or cares in the big business world. The "Putz on Wallstreet" as another poster put it yesterday might just fit him, who knows. Certainly "Notorious" is a keyword that may stick to Mr. Sason.
I sold out of previous business to David Einhorn, Green Light Capital, and have been succeeded in a public company by a former President of a Fortune 100, called Bell South. The Sason brothers think I don't know people at the highest level in business and government and media. So arrogantly naive and wet behind the ears.
Joshua and Ari Sason have the biggest bulls-eyes on them right now. They ran up on a CEO that does not take bribes and has no interest in funding scams. Their "secret" concept violates securities laws and destroys companies.
You can't run from your past, and that's the Sason brothers biggest problem right now. I will not let them walk away with what they have done. While I do forgive them, they must pay a price for their actions. They destroyed many companies and I can tell you for sure, they could care less about the people they dumped all those shares on.
16. A few weeks thereafter, Granville sent a private text message to a former director, Morton Fink, who is also the Sasons’ grandfather. The private text message, which the Magna Parties have chosen to make public (selectively quoting it), reads as follows:
What’s coming next is not personal. I am burning down your family name and putting your cunt grandsons in prison. Round 2 is about to start. How did you like Bloomberg. LOL. Only the tip of the iceberg. You shouldn’t have lied to me you old bastard.
17. Granville stands by these statements because, as discussed below, they are true. Granville is fully prepared to come into court, swear an oath, and defend his words and actions.
18. As a businessman, a U.S. Navy veteran, and man of devout faith, Granville feels a moral and ethical obligation to help expose the truth of the Magna Parties’ business practices. In so doing, Granville’s objective is to save other entrepreneurs from the Magna Parties’ vicious and immoral business practices, and to see that the Magna Parties are brought to account for the jobs, companies, and lives that they have destroyed in the name of personal enrichment. According to the Bloomberg article, Joshua Sason has used his vast, ill-gotten gains for such purposes as buying a $200,000 Mercedes, hanging out at a bottle service club four nights a week, holding court with all the beautiful waitresses, and maintaining a lingerie model girlfriend.
19. In their promotional materials, the Magna Parties ostentatiously proclaim their sterling reputation and business ethics. Recently they stated in a press release:
Magna Group [has] quickly built a stellar reputation in the marketplace and amongst portfolio companies for its focus on building relationships and transacting ethically. Today, Magna Group is widely recognized as a global leader in small and lower middle market structured finance and continues to expand and broaden its strategic focus.
20. As the Bloomberg Article demonstrates (and as set forth below in greater detail), the reality is the exact opposite. In truth, the Magna Parties destroy companies, careers and lives – all for their own personal and ill-gotten gain. Never forget Proverbs: “Therefore, they must eat the bitter fruit of living their own way, choking on their own schemes.” (Prov. 1:31)
II. The Magna Parties’ Pump and Dump Scheme
21. Yippy is a publicly traded company, trading under the symbol YIPI. Granville is Yippy’s CEO and majority shareholder.
22. In connection with certain financing transactions, the Magna Parties came into possession of Yippy stock, which it held as collateral.
23. The Magna Parties sold approximately 247,494 shares of Yippy stock during the time period of September 11, 2013 and September 20, 2013 (the “September 2013 Sales”).
24. Immediately prior to the September 2013 Sales, two fraudulent press releases were posted on an investor website known as Newswire.
25. The first fraudulent press release, entitled “Is Yippy, Inc. the Next Tech Giant?” appeared on Newswire’s website on or about September 5, 2013 at the web address: http://www.newswire.com/is-yippy-inc-otcqx-yipi-the-next/238007 (the “Bogus 9/5/13 Release”).
26. The second fraudulent press release, entitled “Yippy May Soon Belong to Google,” appeared on Newswire’s website on or about September 9, 2013 at the web address: http://www.newswire.com/yippy-inc-otcqx-yipi-may-soonbelong/ 238512 (the “Bogus 9/9/15 Release”).
27. In addition to the two fraudulent press releases that were published on Newswire in September 2013, a similar fraudulent press release was published by Newswire on or about June 13, 2013 entitled “The Rise of Yippy,” found at the web address: http://www.newswire.com/the-rise-of-yippy-otcqx-yipi/226142 (the “Bogus 6/13/13 Release”).
28. None of the three above-mentioned bogus press releases were written, authorized, or approved by Granville or Yippy or any representative of Yippy, even though the bogus press releases were designed to look like an official Yippy press release.
29. These three bogus press releases had no basis in reality and were clearly designed to manipulate the market by “talking up” the price of Yippy stock.
30. Contemporaneous with the fraudulent press releases posted on Newswire in September 2013, the stock price of Yippy rose from 23 cents per share on September 5, 2013 to 48 cents per share on September 13, 2013.
31. In April 2015, Yippy contacted the principal of Newswire, Anthony Santiago, who provided proof that the individual responsible for posting the bogus press releases was Defendant Linda Black.
32. Linda Black has no affiliation with Yippy whatsoever and was not authorized to post press releases on behalf of Yippy.
33. On information and belief, Linda Black posted the bogus press releases at the behest of the Magna Parties. This belief is based upon the fact that, around the same time, Linda Black posted press releases regarding one other company, American Petro Hunter. Her posts included one on August 3, 2013 entitled “The Rise of American Petro Hunter,” which is very similar to the bogus press release she posted about Yippy entitled “The Rise of Yippy.”
34. Linda Black’s press release entitled “The Rise of American Petro Hunter” was bogus, as confirmed by the fact that this press release does not appear on the American Petro Hunter website, which contains a page listing its official press releases. http://www.americanpetrohunter.com/news/news.aspx.
35. Notably, both Yippy and American Petro Hunter had one thing in common: both were portfolio companies of the Magna Parties.
36. After Linda Black posted her bogus American Petro Hunter press release, the stock price of American Petro Hunter sharply increased, then plummeted. This pattern is consistent with a pump and dump scheme.
37. On information and belief, discovery will demonstrate that (i) the Magna Parties induced Linda Black to post bogus press releases about both Yippy and American Petro Hunter; (ii) Linda Black’s press releases resulted in manipulation of the securities market; (iii) after Linda Black had pumped the stock price of Yippy and American Petro Hunter by means of false, fraudulent, and misleading press releases, the Magna Parties sold into the market.
38. On information and belief, the Magna Parties’ scheme was not simply to pump the price of shares that the Magna Parties actually owned. Rather, the Magna Parties’ real objective was to pump the price of the stock to artificially high levels, then to “sell short” the stock at the inflated price without actually borrowing or arranging to borrow sufficient shares to cover the short sale.
39. This practice is known as naked short selling and was banned by the SEC in 2009 as an abusive practice. http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2009/2009-172.htm
40. In other words, the Magna Parties’ objective is to manipulate the stock price upward, sell short, and then take measures to cause the stock price to crash, leading to the destruction of the companies in which the Magna Parties have invested (with the Magna Parties reaping a windfall).
41. The Magna Parties’ own correspondence confirms that the Magna Parties, in making loans to small publicly traded companies, are not actually interested in having the loans repaid. Rather, as the Magna Parties have admitted, they typically exit these deals by converting their loans into equity. This is consistent with a scheme of market manipulation and naked short selling.
42. Further confirming the Magna Parties’ naked short selling scheme with respect to Yippy stock is the fact that on or about October 17, 2013, Yippy wrote to Magna and asked for a payoff letter to extinguish its indebtedness to Hanover.
43. If Hanover were a legitimate lender, the response would have been to promptly send a payoff letter.
44. Instead, the Magna Parties refused to provide a payoff letter.
45. Tellingly, when Yippy offered to pay off its loan with Hanover, internal communications among the Magna Parties confirms that Yippy’s announced intention to pay off its loan (and redeem all shares of Yippy that had been pledged as collateral) required the Magna Parties to “discuss the next steps.”
46. If Hanover had been a legitimate lender, there would have been no “next steps” to discuss. Hanover would have happily sent a payoff letter, waited for a wire transfer, and released the Yippy shares that were held as collateral.
47. The only logical reason why the Magna Parties needed to discuss “next steps” is that the Magna Parties did not want the loan to be repaid because that would require the Magna Parties to return the shares of Yippy that had been pledged as collateral. The Magna Parties could not do that, because they (directly or through co-conspirators) had already naked shorted Yippy stock. If they had to return those Yippy shares that were held as collateral, they risked having to go into the market to get shares to cover their naked shorts.
48. In late 2013, after Yippy requested a payoff letter, Ari Sason and Michael Abitebol each separately contacted Rich Granville and offered him a substantial payment in exchange for changing transfer agents. The Magna Parties wanted Yippy to move from the Pacific Stock Exchange to V Stock Transfer. According to the Magna Parties, they wanted Yippy to move from Pacific Stock Exchange to V Stock Transfer because they believed that V Stock Transfer would allow them to convert “restricted” Yippy stock into free trading stock in violation of SEC rules. Granville flatly refused.
49. As a further step in its scheme to manipulate the market for Yippy stock and cover its naked short sales, the Magna Parties (through counsel), in March 2014, sent a fraudulent opinion letter to the Pacific Stock Exchange in an effort to change approximately 200,000 shares of restricted Yippy stock into free trading stock. The Magna Parties did not copy Yippy on this letter, which was brought to Yippy’s attention by the Pacific Stock Exchange. On information and belief, the reason why the Magna Parties did this is because they had (directly or through co-conspirators) naked shorted substantial amounts of Yippy stock. They needed these 200,000 shares to be freely tradable in order to cover their open short positions. The Pacific Stock Exchange correctly refused to make these Yippy shares free trading.
50. Richard Granville will testify that Magna offered him $100,000 in return for changing to Magna’s favorite transfer agent, V Stock Transfer. The role of the transfer agent is gatekeeper. It is the transfer agent who must approve the removal of restrictive legends, which is essential to sell stock into the public markets.
51. As noted elsewhere, it is a violation of securities law to acquire shares without bona fide investment intent, then to sell into the public market without filing a registration statement. In order for Magna to succeed in its scheme, it needs a transfer agent who will play ball.
52. Shortly before Granville stopped doing business with the Magna Group, in September 2013, Ari Sason complained bitterly about Yippy’s transfer agent. Sason emailed:
Transfer Agent instructions will be extremely tight and must be signed by T.A. (Pacific always pushes back on our TA agreements essentially making them worthless, we CANNOT agree to this under these circumstances)
Hanover shall have the right to immediately demand a Transfer Agent change if Pacific Stock, in any way, holds up any conversion.
53. A few months later, in March 2014, Magna’s lawyers sent a facially defective opinion letter to Pacific Stock Transfer, Yippy’s transfer agent, attempting to induce the Pacific Stock Transfer to violate securities laws by removing the restrictive legend on 200,000 shares of Yippy stock.
54. The letter from Sichenzia Ross Friedman Ference LLP dated March 21, 2014 to Pacific Stock Transfer on behalf of Magna with respect to its attempt to sell Yippy shares is deficient on its face.
55. First, Sichenzia states, “We have investigated such matters and examined such documents as we have deemed necessary and appropriate under the Securities Act and the applicable state laws.” It is clear that Sichenzia has not done so, because its Rule 144 analysis which follows, in the last paragraph on the first page (Yippy 0376) and the next three paragraphs on the second page (Yippy 0377), it makes no mention of the fact that, pursuant to subsection (i) of Rule 144, the safe harbor provided by Rule 144 is not allowed even if a one-year holding period is met in the event that the issuer is, or formerly was, a “shell company”, in the absence of 12 months of current reporting under Sections 13 or 15(d) of the Exchange Act (other than Form 8-K reports) and the filing of “Form 10 information” (17 C.F.R. 249.210 or 17 C.F.R. 249.220f) with the SEC.
56. This exception to the applicability of Rule 144 is plainly stated in the text of Rule 144 itself. Despite this, at no point does Sichenzia state that it has made any inquiries as to the absence of this exception from the applicability of Rule 144. Had Sichenzia done so, it would have noted that Yippy, in all of its OTC filings, very clearly notifies all potential investors that it is a former shell company, that it is subject to Rule 144(i)’s exception, and that investors cannot rely on Rule 144 for resales of securities.
57. The problems with Sichenzia’s opinion letter do not end with its flawed Rule 144 analysis, however. At no point in its letter does Sichenzia explain the means in which Magna acquired its shares or whether Magna was properly relying on an exemption from the requirement of a registration statement pursuant to Section 5 of the Securities Act, nor does it draw any conclusion regarding investment intent other than factually noting that the holding period for the shares is “in excess of one year”. However, particularly if Magna has not availed itself of a legitimate safe harbor from registration, the length of the holding period by itself may not be enough to establish investment intent.
58. By playing fast and loose with both the facts at hand and the application of Federal and state securities laws, Sichenzia attempted to induce the transfer agent to remove restrictive legends from Yippy’s stock in violation of securities laws.
59. This particular episode highlights the importance of the transfer agent in Magna’s death spiral. Magna needs a transfer agent to look the other way.
60. Further confirming Magna’s pattern and practice of market manipulation is first-hand testimony that Rich Granville will provide in this case. In or about July 2013, Ari Sason approached Granville and asked him to issue a false letter of intent and press release saying that Yippy was entering into a deal with a company called TagLikeMe Corp. (TAGG), which, according to the Magna Parties, was another one of Magna’s portfolio companies. Ari Sason offered to pay Granville a substantial sum of money in exchange for this market manipulation. Granville flatly refused.
61. Since 2013, Granville and Yippy have been asking the Magna Parties for a full accounting of the balance of his loan (including an accounting for all sales of Yippy stock that was held as collateral). To date, no such accounting has been provided. Any legitimate lender would have a spreadsheet showing the loan balance, with all credits and adjustments. Tellingly, Magna is not able to produce a credible accounting. On information and belief, the reason for this is that the Magna Parties are not really lenders at all. They are market manipulators and abusive short sellers who use illegal and abusive tactics to put their borrowers into a “death spiral” by pumping the price of the stock, naked shorting it (which effectively floods the market with phantom shares and artificially depresses the stock price), using false and misleading statements to crash the price of the stock, and pocketing the profits.
First Counterclaim
On Behalf of Richard Granville Against the Magna Parties
Fraudulent Misrepresentation

62. The foregoing paragraphs are incorporated by reference.
63. The Magna Parties induced Yippy to enter into certain financing agreements, and induced Granville to enter into certain personal guarantees, upon representations by Joshua Sason, Ari Sason, Michael Abitebol that the Magna Parties were legitimate lenders.
64. This was a material misrepresentation of existing fact. In truth, as the Magna Parties have now admitted, they did not typically not “exit” these loan transactions through a repayment of the loan. Rather, directly or through co-conspirators, they pump up the price of the stock, then they naked short the stock, which is the equivalent of printing phantom shares that flood the market and drive the stock price into what is known as a death spiral.
65. In making these misrepresentations, the Magna Parties knew that they were falsely representing their business model. The Magna Parties claimed to be a legitimate lender that was seeking to enter a mutually beneficial relationship. In reality, as with scores of its other portfolio companies, the Magna Parties’ true business model was, as discussed above, to manipulate the market for Yippy stock and to ultimately profit from Yippy entering a death spiral.
66. The Magna Parties, acting through Linda Black and other agents, further perpetrated a fraud by causing false and misleading information (including the bogus press releases) to be disseminated, which affected the market price of Yippy stock. The Magna Parties knew at all times that the press releases issued by Linda Black were false.
67. The Magna Parties intended to induce Granville and Yippy’s reliance upon their representations.
68. Granville justifiably relied upon the Magna Parties’ misrepresentations by entering into certain financing transactions with the Magna Parties.
69. Granville further relied upon the Magna Parties’ misrepresentations by agreeing to put Morton Fink (the grandfather of Josh and Ari Sason) on Yippy’s board of directors. Fink’s close involvement in Yippy, and Fink’s affiliation with Magna, gave rise to a close and privity-like relationship between Yippy and Magna.
70. Granville has suffered damage as a result of the Magna Parties’ conduct. If the Magna Parties had not deceived Granville into believing that the Magna Parties were legitimate investors, Yippy would not have done business with the Magna Parties, and Granville would not have entered into any personal obligations with the Magna Parties.
Second Counterclaim
On Behalf of Yippy Against the Magna Parties
Fraudulent Misrepresentation

71. The foregoing paragraphs are incorporated by reference.
72. As noted above, the Magna Parties affirmatively represented that their interests were aligned with Yippy’s interest. On numerous occasions, the Magna Parties pointed to the fact that their grandfather, Morton Fink, was a member of Yippy’s board of directors. The Magna Parties presented this as proof positive that the Magna Parties’ interests were in line with Yippy’s.
73. On numerous occasions, when asked directly, the Magna Parties falsely stated that they did not have a short position in Yippy stock. However, an accounting furnished by the Magna Parties in October 2013 confirms that Magna indeed did short Yippy stock. See Snyder Affirmation dated February 29, 2016. What is more, shortly after getting into business with the Magna Group, an analyst report stated that Yippy had a short interest of almost 13 million shares, with 31% of trading volume being short:
NEWPORT BEACH, Calif., April 9, 2013 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) - BUYINS.NET, a leading provider of Regulation SHO compliance monitoring, short sale trading statistics and market integrity surveillance, has initiated coverage on Yippy Inc. (OTCQX:YIPI) after releasing the latest short sale data through April 5, 2013. The total aggregate number of shares shorted since August 2009 is approximately 12.95 million shares. Approximately 31.11% of daily trading volume is short selling. The SqueezeTrigger price for all YIPI shares shorted is $0.88. A short squeeze is expected to begin when YIPI is above the $0.88 SqueezeTrigger Price.
74. The Magna Parties intended to induce Yippy’s reliance upon their representations.
75. Yippy justifiably relied upon the Magna Parties’ misrepresentations by entering into certain financing transactions with the Magna Parties.
76. Yippy further relied upon the Magna Parties’ misrepresentations by agreeing to put Morton Fink (the grandfather of Josh and Ari Sason) on Yippy’s board of directors.
77. Yippy has suffered damages as a result of the Magna Parties’ conduct, which has been consistently directed toward crashing the price of Yippy’s stock and dissuading potential business partners from doing business with Yippy, resulting in great harm to the price of Yippy’s stock and the loss of potential business deals.
Third Counterclaim
On Behalf of Yippy Against the Magna Parties
Aiding and Abetting Breach of Fiduciary Duty

78. The foregoing paragraphs are incorporated by reference.
79. At the suggestion of the Magna Parties, Yippy agreed to put Morton Fink on its board of directors. Morton Fink is Josh and Ari Sason’s grandfather.
80. Fink was privy to confidential, inside information due to Fink’s position on the board of directors.
81. Fink discussed Yippy’s confidential information with the Magna Parties.
82. The Magna Parties used information obtained by Fink for the benefit of the Magna Parties, and to the detriment of Yippy.
83. The Magna Parties are therefore liable to Yippy for aiding and abetting breach of fiduciary duty.
Prayer For Relief
WHEREFORE, Granville and Yippy demand judgment as follows:
As to the First Counterclaim, judgment against the Magna Parties for an amount to be determined at trial and no less than $50,000,000.
As to the Second Counterclaim, judgment against the Magna Parties for an amount to be determined at trial and no less than $50,000,000.
As to the Third Counterclaim, judgment against the Magna Parties for an amount to be determined at trial and no less than $50,000,000.
As to all causes of action, a preliminary and permanent injunction barring the Magna Parties from providing financial services / engaging in lending activities in the State of New York, and further enjoining them from engaging in further acts of market manipulation and naked short selling.
As to all causes of action, an award of Granville and Yippy’s legal fees and
costs.
As to all causes of action, such other and further relief as the Court may
deem just and proper.

Dated: New York, New York
April 11, 2016

[Dragon Lady]

Bioheart, now U.S. Stem Cell (USRM) MORE MAGNA deals:

USRM, formerly Bioheart, just did qty-2, TWO MORE FREAKING MAGNA toxic note convertible debt deals, back to back, just recently.

Bioheart (formerly BHRT) and now renamed to "U.S. Stem Cell" (USRM) did qty-2 Magna financing deals end of 2014. The common shares went on to lose about 90% of their value from late 2014 to today- another Magna textbook wrecking ball story IMO.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/US-Stem-Cell-Inc-USRM-12025/

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/bioheart-inc-completes-financing-with-magna-otcqb-bhrt-1960953.htm

That's the PR to the first two Magna deals in 2014

Then after the shares were decimated to literal "trips" aka TRIPLE ZEROS, reaching their new all, all, all time LOW of .0007 just very recently, the company pulled the classic (again textbook IMO) ole 1) MASSIVE 1000 to 1 R/S reverse split and 2) Ole company name change, LOL !!!

When your shares collapse to a fraction of a penny from taking on truck loads of toxic, convertible debt, hey- just change the freaking company name and hope no one remembers your tainted, 99% share losing past, LOL !! FANTASTIC.

So, recently they went from being Bioheart to now "U.S. Stem Cell" and massively split the common shares:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bioheart-change-name-u-stem-130000917.html

Since all that fantastic stuff (LOL) - they then go on in rapid fire succession (just 2 months apart) to take on not just ONE MORE MAGNA DEAL, BUT NOW TWO prior to the end of 2015!

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1388319/000118518515002480/bioheart8k100115.htm

U.S. Stem Cell Magna 2015 toxic deal #1:

"Securities Purchase Agreement and Convertible Note

On October 1, 2015 (the “Closing Date”), Bioheart, Inc., a Florida corporation (the “Company”), entered into a securities purchase agreement dated as of the Closing Date (the “Purchase Agreement”) with Magna Equities II, LLC, a New York limited liability company (“Magna”). The Purchase Agreement provides that, upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth therein, Magna shall purchase from the Company on the Closing Date a senior convertible note with an initial principal amount of $160,000 (the “Convertible Note”) for a purchase price of $100,000 (a 37.5% original issue discount). Pursuant to the Purchase Agreement, on the Closing Date, the Company issued the Convertible Note to Magna."

And NOW, Magna 2015 toxic deal #2 at even worse terms:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1388319/000118518515003238/usstemcell8k120315.htm

"Securities Purchase Agreement and Convertible Note

On December 3, 2015, (the “Closing Date”), U.S. Stem Cell, Inc., a Florida corporation (the “Company”), entered into a securities purchase agreement dated as of the Closing Date (the “Purchase Agreement”) with Magna Equities II, LLC, a New York limited liability company (“Magna”). The Purchase Agreement provides that, upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth therein, Magna shall purchase from the Company on the Closing Date a senior convertible note with an initial principal amount of $262,500 (the “Convertible Note”). Pursuant to the Purchase Agreement, on the Closing Date, the Company issued the Convertible Note to Magna.

The Convertible Note matures on December 3, 2016 and accrues interest at the rate of 12% per annum. The Convertible Note is convertible at any time, in whole or in part, at Magna’s option into shares of the Company’s common stock, par value $0.01 per share (the “Common Stock”), at a fixed conversion price of the lesser of (A) the product of (x) the lowest sale price of the Common Stock during the five (5) consecutive Trading Days ending and including the Trading Day immediately preceding the applicable Conversion Date and (y) sixty percent (60%), and (B) $0.70 (as adjusted for stock splits, stock dividends, stock combinations or other similar transactions). At no time will Magna be entitled to convert any portion of the Convertible Note to the extent that after such conversion, Magna (together with its affiliates) would beneficially own more than 4.99% of the outstanding shares of Common Stock as of such date. The Convertible Note includes “full ratchet” and standard anti-dilution protection."

Borrow, dilute, borrow, dilute, borrow, dilute- wash, rinse, repeat. Common shares turn to toilet paper for all intents and purposes. Another Magna wrecking ball success story IMO. Oh, and USRM (ole Bioheart) also has toxic debt with Asher, Fourth Man, Danial James too- like a who's who of the toxic debt lenders.

They're in deep, deep trouble IMO. Even after the massive 1000 to 1 R/S reverse split to get their shares looking like they're back at $1 buck or whatever, they're gonna RAPIDLY dilute again IMO and end up right back in the penny range all over again- very quickly as Magna starts to convert and dump the massive number of steeply discounted shares they're gonna receive by the toxic dump truck full.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-12/josh-sason-made-millions-from-penny-stock-financing

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-12/death-spiral-convertible-financier-has-a-lot-of-fun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_spiral_financing

[DukeNukem]

Looks like Josh Sason from Magna starting another scam, FONU2?

Check out the owners of all the stock for FONU? Can they all be tied to Josh and Ari Sason?

What other deals went south with Jake Shapiro and Josh Sason?

FONU Message Board | FONU2 Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance
finance.yahoo.com/mb/FONU/
Yahoo! Finance
5 days ago - Joshua Sason = 27 year old toxic death spiral "financier". Jul 25, 2015 12:31 PM ... Jason Sason and jake Shapiro need more than "advisors". Jul 23, 2015 7:25 ...

This is a public service message :

Josh Sason is a death spiral financier according to Bloomberg. Sason has many lawsuits against him. Do your Due Diligence.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-12/death-spiral-convertible-financier-has-a-lot-of-fun

[DukeNukem]

New Details on Lawsuit against Magna - Josh Sason.

Here is the full counterclaim filed by CEO, Rich Granville from Yippy and John Snyder.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/557f1dc6e4b0cd2823d04cda/t/5583190de4b01fce11f8850f/1434654989345/6.16.15+Answer.pdf

Looks like Josh and Ari Sason are in alot of trouble. The charges by Snyder are very eye opening indeed.

[pippylongstockings]

wow,so it really is true.
this is the "MAGNA"death spiral I've been hearing about.Is it possible that this group is so proficient at conning companies that they go undetected from the scrupulous investor/advisor/company?


Of course you know there is another Potstock...that this group is involved in. After this grand opening I may get out with free share riding.

[Richby30]

Good to hear. Magna needs to go under. Josh Sason is a worse individual than Jordan Belfort. At least with Jordans outfit others made money and the companies were not destroyed, where as Josh destroys companies and screws over everyone else trading/investing the tickers he "finances". I will not trade any ticker that these con artists do a deal with ever again. Every trader and investor should do the same. That way Magna can get their discounted shares and no one will buy them. Magna is so corrupt and vile. Screwing over desperate companies and destroying shareholder value. Typical behavior for these money grubers when you know where they are from...

[JPRMarketing]

Yippy, Inc. CEO Files $50 Million Lawsuit Against Magna Group LLC

Jun 18, 2015
OTC Disclosure & News Service

New York, NY -

NEW YORK – June 18, 2015: Richard Granville, the CEO of technology company Yippy, Inc. (YIPI), filed a $50 million lawsuit in New York Supreme Court against the “death spiral” financier Magna Group LLC and its principals Josh Sason, Ari Sason, and Michael Abitebol.

The lawsuit, filed on June 16, 2015, alleges that Magna participated in a scheme to manipulate the price of Yippy’s stock. Magna’s “pump and dump” scheme involved the issuance of phony press releases, hypothecation and naked short selling of Yippy’s stock, and attempted corporate bribery, according to the complaint. Granville is suing Magna for fraud and unjust enrichment.

This lawsuit comes on the heels Bloomberg’s March 12, 2015 report about Magna and its founder Josh Sason entitled, “This 27-Year-Old Made Millions Riding the Death Spirals of Penny Stocks.” The Bloomberg article describes how Magna profited from the collapse of small, publicly traded companies that had borrowed money from Magna. (See article: http://bloom.bg/1HIedWP)

In March 2015, Granville posted statements referring to the Bloomberg article and describing Magna’s business practices. In response, Magna’s principals Josh Sason, Ari Sason, and Michael Abitebol sued Granville for defamation, claiming that his words had cause them “severe emotional distress.” Granville responded to the defamation suit by claiming truth as a defense: “Granville stands by these statements because, as discussed below, they are true. Granville is fully prepared to come into court, swear an oath, and defend his words and actions.”

The complaint adds: “As a businessman, a U.S. Navy veteran, and man of devout faith, Granville feels a moral and ethical obligation to help expose the truth of the Magna Parties’ business practices. In so doing, Granville’s objective is to save other entrepreneurs from the Magna Parties’ vicious and immoral business practices, and to see that the Magna Parties are brought to account for the jobs, companies, and lives that they have destroyed in the name of personal enrichment.”

Granville and Yippy are represented by the Manhattan law firm John H. Snyder PLLC, which has initiated an investigation into the broader business practices of the Magna Group in preparation for a potential class action. Any person or company who has been harmed by the Magna Group is welcome to contact John H. Snyder. Snyder may be contacted at [phone] or [e-mail].



Granville may be contacted at [e-mail]

Copyright © 2015 OTC Markets. All Rights Reserved

[DukeNukem]

A copy and paste on the Yipi board....

a must read !!! more on magna and schwab

People,

Let's relax. There is a process to this which we will be delivering in short order to FINRA and the SEC regarding the illegal shorting activities of Charles Schwab. The evidence we are submitting is absolutely the definition of a "smoking gun".

Schwab and their entity under common control Optionsxpress are well known for this kind of activity and have been fined many times in the past for same.

See these links:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=schwab+illegal+shorting

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=optionsxpress+illegal+shorting

Now I want to touch on the recent press about Magna Group and Hanover Holdings. Yippy, Inc. is currently in litigation with Magna, whose CEO is Joshua Sason, as disclosed in our financial statements.

Yippy did not enter into the same kind of notes that caused many of the death spiral events as disclosed on Bloomberg. The "little trick" mentioned in that article is nothing more than Magna Group aka: Josh Sason working in collusion with Transfer Agents, a couple of law firms, and a FINRA regulated Broker Dealer.

Here is how it works.

1) A company enters an agreement with Magna Group or Hanover Holdings.

2) Joshua and Ari Sason then offer the CEO a large amount of money to change tranfer agents to someone friendly to their program.

3) Once a company changes transfer agents Magna Group's Josh Sason then reserves a large amount of shares with the TA which is the cause many of the death spiral events.

Now due to the case I will not disclose how they cause the death spiral, or the accounting for shares and value of same, but I can tell you that insider trading, wire fraud, mail fraud, bad faith, breach of contract and a substantial amount of illegal shorting are involved. The Bloomberg article also touches on the shorting aspect, but does not fully understand the depth and process.

Yippy did not change transfer agents and did not accept the bribe the came from Ari Sason and Michael Abitebol. We have hard documented proof of same. Magna then went to our Transfer Agent on their own to reserve shares and were denied.

This only scratches the surface of how deep this rabbit hole goes with Magna Group and the entities working in collusion with Joshua and Ari Sason, as well as Michael Abitebol.

I can tell you this, with absolute certainty. FINRA and the SEC are aware of our case and our discovery requests, as of 3/12, which will without question expose the underbelly of a very tight group of co-conspirators working with Magna Group's Joshua Sason to destroy companies at will.

We certainly expect this case to open up a Federal Criminal inquiry as well. So for anyone to say that illegal shorting is not happening today I say without question, your wrong and we are going to prove it in a very grand way.

There will be no rebuttal. I consider this tread closed.

With regards,

Rich Granville
CEO
Yippy, Inc.

[DukeNukem]

The Due Diligence on Yippy, Inc. (YIPI): A former client of Magna Group - "Josh" Sason and Magna Group - Hanover Holdings.

It appears due to the very small float (TA verified) that the management of Yippy did a very good job of protecting their shareholders from people like Joshua "Josh" Sason.

What I even find more amazing is that Josh Sason feels he has not done anything wrong. He feels crushing stock with insider trading schemes is good moral business.

Yippy survived Magna, who we all know still holds a huge short against YIPI.

The facts on the survivor... Yippy, Inc. YIPI


1) 5 consecutive year over year top line growth
2) VERY Low Debt: ($32K) in notes @18% - ($70K+/-) held by directors at no stated interest
3) Low float >9.2 million shares (No dilution since 2013)
4) >58m issued and outstanding.
5) 65% held by insiders
6) 9.2% held by IBM (International Business Machines)
7) ISO certifications q1 2015 (reported by PR for completion date)
8) Yippy has the only worldwide unlimited perpetual license for IBM Watson Explorer (aka: Velocity)
9) YIPI has a worldwide perpetual license for Muse Global’s software suites
10) Yippy.com a top 10 rated web search engine

YIPI recently disclosed their enterprise solution at the following link:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/companyPresentationViewer?cmdId=510
Yippy is sited and discussed in many books that speak about the future of the internet and search.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#tbm=bks&q=yippy%2C+Inc.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#tbm=bks&q=yippy.com
Yippy research report by leading IT analyst from IDC:
I really like this research report especially the last 2 use cases which show they had a vision and then built it. Yippy EASE 360 running on the Blue Flame.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=YIPI&id=87138
YIPI recently brought in very powerful industry executives from companies such as IBM, Halliburton, and Gale Cengage. These are big names that ran multi-billion dollar budgets who joined this micro-cap company.

http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/YIPI/news/Yippy--Inc---YIPI--Adds-Former-CIO-of-Halliburton-and-Air-Liquide-S-A--as-Chief-Consultant-to-the-Board-of-Directors?id=94845&b=y

http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/YIPI/news/Yippy--Inc---YIPI--Elects-Cengage-Learning-s-Chief-Scientist-to-Join-Its-Board-of-Directors?id=90990&b=y

http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/YIPI/news/Yippy--Inc---YIPI--Hires-Ex-IBM-Executive-as-Chief-Operating-Officer?id=70676&b=y

USPTO TRADEMARKS

Yippy -

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4807:5u37lq.3.6

Welcome to the Cloud -

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4807:5u37lq.2.1

Purchase of Vivisimo Velocity –
Bloomberg lists transaction
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=100844940
http://finance.thepennews.com/filing/8-k/0001213900-10-002105/cik-1409136/

Yippy, Inc. mentioned in the news of IBM purchase of Vivisimo after Yippy secured it copy of Watson Explorer (formally Velocity)
http://www.post-gazette.com/business/businessnews/2012/04/26/IBM-will-acquire-Squirrel-Hill-firm-Vivisimo/stories/201204260371
Purchase of Muse Global
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/yippy-inc-yipi-and-museglobal-to-merge-offering-unified-access-to-a-data-cloud-of-curated-content-158411085.html
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/yippy-inc-yipi-licenses-museglobals-muse-content-machine-featuring-muse-smart-connector-technology-2013-06-19
Top 10 search rankings: Here is a sample of only 3 of a bunch that think yippy search has a future.
http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/navigatingthenet/tp/top_10_search_engines_for_beginners.htm
http://omglist.com/misc/internet/top-10-best-internet-search-engines-in-world/
http://alternativeto.net/software/zippy-com/
Yippy partners with Yahoo
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/yippy-yipi-partners-with-yahoo-yhoo-for-education-pinksheets-yipi-1545897.htm
Yippy partners with Gale Cengage
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/yippy-inc-yipi-announces-partnership-with-highbeam-research-and-encyclopediacom-pinksheets-yipi-1542728.htm
Yippy’s Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yippy

Corp. site - yippyinc.com


go YIPI

[Brigham Youngster]

Bloomberg story today on Magna by Zeke Faux.

A MUST read.

Cassandra, can't post link. Pressed for time today. Please post if you get a chance. Nice MB.

Thank you.

[Rickylane]

MJNA CEO Michael Llamas under 16 count federal indictment....for mail fraud and wire fraud charges. The United States Department of Justice levied the 16 criminal counts against the MJNA CEO Michael Llamas for mortgage fraud scam that claimed more than 100 victims and caused millions in losses to several financial institutions.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Paul A. Hemesath is prosecuting the massive mortgage fraud case and has a 100% conviction ratio so far. The de facto CEO of MJNA Michael Llamas is set to go on trial for the criminal charges in May 2015.

Mortgage fraud occurs with intent....not mistakes.

Magna Group....be aware of the fraudster Michael Llamas.

More to come tellingly.......in federal custody in 130 days............May 2015

Offering EXTREMELY valuable info and speculation with no Explanation.

[@LaughinPaulRyan]

... PENNY STOCK JOCK IS BACK ... $ TRTC

More to come tellingly: http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=10378308

[Dragon Lady]

Bioheart, BHRT just took on a "MAGNA" deal today- as seen in this 8-K filing. WOW, IMHO. I've seen BHRT use ASHER and similar for years, but this "Magna" terms, they look unbelievable. Stunning IMHO how steep and brutal the terms are, all for a pittance of about $300K (I'm not even sure it's that much- it looks like Magna gets an "up front" discount and only pays like $200K actual cash to BHRT, for a $300K "note"?)

Wow, this Magna is like 2 notches below pay-day loan terms IMO. These are as steep a terms as I can remember seeing in a toxic finance deal. Holy cow IMO !!

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1388319/000114544314001228/d31725.htm

"
Item 1.01 Entry into Material Definitive Agreement

Securities Purchase Agreement and Convertible Note

On October 7, 2014 (the “Closing Date”), Bioheart, Inc., a Florida corporation (the “Company”), entered into a securities purchase agreement dated as of the Closing Date (the “Purchase Agreement”) with Magna Equities II, LLC, a New York limited liability company (“Magna”). The Purchase Agreement provides that, upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth therein, Magna shall purchase from the Company on the Closing Date a senior convertible note with an initial principal amount of $307,500 (the “Convertible Note”) for a purchase price of $205,000 (an approximately 33.33% original issue discount). Pursuant to the Purchase Agreement, on the Closing Date, the Company issued the Convertible Note to Magna.

$40,000 of the outstanding principal amount of the Convertible Note (together with any accrued and unpaid interest with respect to such portion of the principal amount) shall be automatically extinguished (without any cash payment by the Company) if (i) the Company has properly filed a registration statement with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) on or prior to the Filing Deadline (defined below) covering the resale by Magna of all of the shares of Common Stock issued or issuable upon conversion of the Convertible Note and (ii) no event of default or an event that with the passage of time or giving of notice would constitute an event of default has occurred on or prior to such date. Moreover, $62,500 of the outstanding principal amount of the Convertible Note (together with any accrued and unpaid interest with respect to such portion of the principal amount) shall be automatically extinguished (without any cash payment by the Company) if (i) the Company has filed a registration statement with the SEC that has been declared effective by the SEC on or prior to the Effectiveness Deadline (defined below) and the prospectus contained therein is available for use by Magna for the resale by Magna of all of the shares of Common Stock issued or issuable upon conversion of the Convertible Note and (ii) no event of default or an event that with the passage of time or giving of notice would constitute an event of default has occurred on or prior to such date.

The Convertible Note matures on August 7, 2015 and, in addition to the approximately 33.33% original issue discount, accrues interest at the rate of 12% per annum. The Convertible Note is convertible at any time, in whole or in part, at Magna’s option into shares of the Company’s common stock, par value $0.01 per share (the “Common Stock”), at a fixed conversion price of $0.01035 per share (subject to adjustment). This conversion price represents a discount of approximately 55% from the lowest trading price of the Common Stock during the five trading days prior to the Closing Date. If the Company has not properly filed a registration statement with the SEC on or prior to the date that is 70 calendar days after the Closing Date covering the resale by Magna of all of the shares of Common Stock issued or issuable upon conversion of the Convertible Note, then, from and after such date, the Convertible Note


will be convertible at any time, in whole or in part, at Magna’s option into Common Stock at a conversion price equal to a 55% discount from the lowest trading price of the Common Stock during the five consecutive trading days ending and including the trading day immediately preceding the applicable date of conversion. At no time will Magna be entitled to convert any portion of the Convertible Note to the extent that after such conversion, Magna (together with its affiliates) would beneficially own more than 4.99% of the outstanding shares of Common Stock as of such date. The Convertible Note includes “full ratchet” and standard anti-dilution protection.

The Convertible Note includes customary event of default provisions, and provides for a default interest rate of 18%. Upon the occurrence of an event of default, Magna may require the Company to pay in cash the “Event of Default Redemption Price” which is defined in the Convertible Note to mean the greater of (i) the product of (A) the amount to be redeemed multiplied by (B) 140% (or 100% if an insolvency related event of default) and (ii) the product of (X) the conversion price in effect at that time multiplied by (Y) the product of (1) 140% (or 100% if an insolvency related event of default) multiplied by (2) the greatest closing sale price of the Common Stock on any trading day during the period commencing on the date immediately preceding such event of default and ending on the date the Company makes the entire payment required to be made under this provision."

[Cassandra]

ITEN, PMBS and HKUP (fka TFER) confirmed as clients of Magna Group / Hanover Holdings and added to theiBox.

ITEN: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1543098/000121390014002857/f8k042914ex10ii_codesmart.htm

PMBS:http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=62699901&symbol=PMBS

TFER/HKUP: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1414043/000119983513000598/titan_8k-15708.htm

iHookup Social (HKUP) is just a new name for Titan Iron Ore Corp. (TFER) with all of the same principals and service providers.

[ANTI-BAGHOLDER]

Check ITEN. Looks like they are in bed with Magna as well.

[Cassandra]

NEWL - What a mess!

Security Notes
* Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 12 split. Ex-date=08/03/2010
* Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 15 split Ex-date=10/17/2013.
* Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 3 split Ex-date=12/06/2013.
* Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 10 split Ex-date=03/06/2014.
* Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 50 split Ex-date=05/15/2014.
* Note = Delisted from NASDAQ on 7-22-2014
* Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 50 split. Ex-date=07/15/2014

504s from Hannover Holdings, Magna Group, MG Partners LTD, Magna Gibraltar Investments:
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1322587/000114420414005824/v367199_sc13ga.htm

All four liquidated: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1322587/000114420414005824/v367199_sc13ga.htm

Hannover Holdings Settlement: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1322587/000114420413020403/v340648_ex99-1.htm

There were additional tranches in addition to the above.

Articles:

http://www.livetradingnews.com/nasdaq-pauses-trading-in-newlead-holdings-ltd-nasdaqnewl-55373.htm#.U_IzzfldUlI

http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/newlead-holdings-ltd-completes-448-million-balance-sheet-program-20140618-00525

NEWL was delisted from NASDAQ and is now a grey market stock.

On July 17, 2014, the common shares of NewLead Holdings Ltd. (the “Company”) were halted from trading on The NASDAQ Stock Market system as a result of a NASDAQ inquiry regarding the Company’s efforts to switch transfer agents. Consequently, as a result of the halt, which would have continued through a determination pursuant to the upcoming delisting hearing before a NASDAQ Listing Qualifications Panel, and discussions with the NASDAQ Staff about the likelihood of success at such upcoming hearing, the Company determined to voluntarily delist from NASDAQ and transfer to the over-the-counter market. As a result of its recent trading halts, the Company will be required to have a market maker file an application on Form 15c2-11 with FINRA in order to have its common shares trade on an OTC market other than the Grey Market on which it is currently trading. Once the Form 15c-211 is cleared, the Company hopes to have its shares trade on the OTCQB market. The Company has engaged a market maker to file the necessary application with FINRA. The Company intends to make a further announcement regarding its trading market once the application is cleared

. http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=63037733

[Cassandra]

STOA confirmed for financing through Magna Group:

http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=9011039

[Tadaaa]

Add PMBS, PuraMed BioScience as a Magna Client

[tferFTW]

Are you saying they are getting the pump primed with that 13G

[librab103]

Well, you might want to add TFER to the list. Looks like next pump I will be dumping.

http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=9914181

[Phred6]

This bunch has 9.9% PCFG OTCBB now. It needs to be added to the list. \V/_

[MASTERTRADER]

Another "work of Art" by Hanover.... F*ckin unreal...

[I-Glow]

TRTC Terra Tech Corp.

Magna/Hanover Holdings
Dominion Capital

http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=9716919

Attorney: Thomas Puzzo

CEO: Derek Peterson

Transfer Agent: West Coast Stock Transfer Inc.

[LordTurkeyBaster]

CWET Clean WInd Energy Tower, Inc.

I think this is now SWET

[Climberish1]

I would love to get a run down from you on SVFC. Trying to make sense of the last 8-k. The settlement agreement with Hanover etc. Am curious if this is going to get pumped.

Thanks

[Lawrence 147]

Had not seen SVFC answer but had seen the complaint & correction. That is why I say the transfer agent is in on it. What we believe we are buying i.e. the Nevada shares is not what we have been sold i.e. the NY shares. This is fraud plain and simple. How can you incorporate in different states and lead investors to believe they are buying shares from the state you list your incorporation from i.e. Nevada. This case is the first exposure of shares from NY and not Nevada.

By the way I see you are being attacked again on the other board, that is exactly why I don’t bother with the stupidity; just think what they would do to me if I posted my thoughts on that board. This is also what I was saying about the Nevada shares , they are the ones that count and IR knows it and that is why they wanted paid in those shares, they knew what is going on .

[Lawrence 147]

The good Doctor has been selling us all stock for the NY company and it is not valid and the transfer agent knows it. If everyone were smart they would recognize SVFC as a fraud and what it has been doing is illegal and the Transfer agent is in on it. How else has SVF been able to sell all these unregistered shares and keep control of the company. Answer they have not been selling us the shares everyone thinks they are buying i.e. the Nevada shares ; that is why the boost in the Nevada shares and hopefully they can get everyone changed over before they get caught.
It might be smart to get them in certificate form and not just held in your account , it may not even be worth that..

[22hornet]

PMCM-Primco Management-Officers and service providers

CEO-David Michery

CFO/IR?-Allen Bailey

CPA-Patrick Rodgers

Attorney-Jody M. Walker

Transfer Agent-Olde Monmouth Stock Transfer Co.

[22hornet]

PMCM-Primco Management Inc.

Multi-media entertainment and real estate development...they say they've paid off their toxic debt to magna and redwood...chart is ugly...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/primco-completes-repayment-redwood-magna-122600301.html

http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sym=pmcm&style=classic&template=&p=DO&d=L&size=M&log=0&ed=09%2F15%2F2013&v=1&g=1&late=1&evnt=1&divd=1&o1=&o2=&o3=&ch1=011&ch1a=&ch1b=&ch1c=&ov1=034&ov1a=7&ov1b=&ov1c=&ch2=034&ch2a=3&ch2b=&ch2c=&ov2=079&ov2a=3&ov2b=&ov2c=&submitted=1&fpage=&txtDate=09%2F15%2F2013

[Zorax]

Is it just me, or does it seem almost every one, if not every single one of these companies that are clients of these funders never have income from the product they pump?
Only from toxic shenanigans?

[Tadaaa]

Thank you for your diligence

[Cassandra]

WRIT: Writers Grp. Film Corp is also a Magna Group client. Apparently they've also financed with Asher Enterprises, another notorious toxic financier.

Will add WRIT and STOA to the iBox when time permits.

[Tadaaa]

Need to ADD STOA to the List...

[Cassandra]

That's interesting. FREE is a NASDAQ stock dealing with a toxic financier like Hanover Holdings. No wonder the stock has tanked.

[Flat Foot]

Hanover Holdings I, LLC vs. (FREE) FreeSeas Inc.

http://www.streetinsider.com/Corporate+News/FreeSeas+(FREE)+Delivers+8.6M+Shares+to+Hanover+Holdings/8566407.html

http://www.streetinsider.com/stock_lookup.php?q=FREE

[Lawrence 147]

If you send that email Anna will most likely freak out and everything just shuts down .
I have no idea what the tax would be. I would imagine it is based on number of shares and not on market cap as that changes every day with the PPS.
The poster you question is definitely what I said and you see the changes, when you are in doubt just click on the posters name and see what boards they post on and who else post on those boards. Interesting patterns will develop and you will get a deeper understanding of just who is taking your money.
There are so few to trust on any board most of the worst do their best to groom you just like any predator. Be friendly look stupid and trust no one.

[Lawrence 147]

Sure it is ok to share with Skunk ; that poster has always had an open mind I just am not going to start some fight on the SVFC board so you can PM skunk or direct them to the other board I am not worried about that . Sorry to have taken so long to reply my computer froze up on me.
SVFC is no more I would be very careful trading now do not get all caught up in a good idea , remember the Hudson. And the De Lorain both ahead of their time; one shut down by larger corporations the other shut down by drugs. Great ideas don’t always pan out.

[Lawrence 147]

The board is still up click on you name and go to your post.

I decided to make it easy and brought you right to the board .

Youare close to right but remember what I told you 1,000 shares is all that is registered with Nevada and those are the shares that count because they are the only ones that have had the tax paid on them.

GO here

http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=fQnJ2UQUjSnUHAOSZJc1eQ%253d%253d

And here

http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=QeV5YJsrjGxDwCHWzDnw6A%253d%253d&nt7=0

Neither one is promising to our cause .
I just looked at the second one and it is a bit more promising as it appears to have been updated even though it is still in default and it shows many more shares registered , like 500,000,000 common and 1,000,000 preferred. The problem remains that everything expired March 31 13


The reason the company is in default is they have not paid the tax on the shares and they apparently updated some of the more important stuff but they are still in default other wise it would say current .

Anyways those 1,000 shares hold all the beans ; even if they don’t the total capitalization of the company is $510,000.00 oops.

[xZx]

so what you're saying is hanover has a reputation for running a stock higher once they have converted? hmmm... that's a lot like what asher did (JMHO) with WGAS in early february, after they bear-raided the stock (IMO) and converted over 19M shares at .0039 (see the filings), the stock hit .039 a few days later.

fwiw, hanover has converted a big pile of WGAS stock just recently. maybe it's time for another run.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1342643/000114420413041913/v351208_sc13g.htm

[Lawrence 147]

You have 13 follows there are some people that appreciate you intelligence and honesty even if they do not want it posted where they are trying to steal a buck.

[Lawrence 147]

There certainly are problems driving down the PPS but when you look for a greater PPS in the end and you are holding a hand full of tickets it can have some real benefits. Especially when you have someone on the side that is collecting the cheap ones waiting for the grand finale’. they will transfer shares to Hanover until the final payment is 9.9% of the O/S; that will maximize the number of shares Hanover has to dump at the highest price. It will not be pretty when that happens.
I do not expect any good news until 2 weeks before Hanover’s final payment maybe not until one week then a huge run up and then you will see lots of good stuff coming up until the filings are complete if they ever do. If they do not complete the filings then do not expect much of a pop at all.
Here is the problem when people jump on this they will do the DD I was so negligent in and then it will be all over and the PPS will go nowhere.
On another note I see someone is insinuating you and possibly some other poster destroyed all their hard work. Think about it if it is impossible to destroy their work the work they are doing has no substance and is quite likely unlawful.
I try to only post the truth as I see it and try to provide links. I suspect the same is true for you. Like I said before I got caught up in the Washington Mutual stock and was so wrong all the way around I promised my self I would never do that again. Funny thing is I provided links in the WaMu case and I was still so wrong.

[Srchn41]

Driving down the PPS is a two-edged sword for Hanover unless they have the company hold shares for them. If they continue to demand shares from Hanover then they are forced to sell at whatever PPS in order to stay under the 10% cap.

So far they show no inclination towards allowing SVFC to hold their shares. As I said before, if they quit transferring shares, the only logical reason I can think of is that Hanover has begun believing the PPS is set to explode.

[cjstocksup]

I know you have tried to be as honest about it as possible but well before you came on board we talked about it in depth and we ran 400% and kept breaking new record volume days on the way up. I think many just knew even with hanover selling we were able to run 400% in 6 trading days with ease. They are not a worry to us. SVFC should be well over .10 soon and hanover will be a non issue ahead. Believe me I was in shock and awe at how brutal those posters can be through PM's and personal attacks on the board. It is sad. That is why I try to stick to DD. God bless, cj

[Lawrence 147]

I do not expect Hanover to hold onto any shares until the final payout and here is why; by dumping as many shares onto the market as they can it would presumably drive down the VWAP this would conceivably cause their final payout in UNREGISTERED shares to be greater. I do believe everything going on is to hide the true O/S.
Notice how there is no good news, there is no fluff or just calls to trade but there is no positive news just promises’ of filings and patents. None of this will occur until Hanover and Iron Mountain want the PPS to exponentially explode; that is where they will dump I want to be in on that dump.
Do not be to surprised if Anna Rhodes is in on the scam and the irresponsible posters she is referring to is us. It would not be unheard of.
Just about any way you look at it the numbers being feed just do not add up so the way I look at it is the company is operating in a deceptive manner; this is not the way a responsible company operates especially the Corporate registration. That is truly DD 101 finding out if the company is current and who the officers and directors are. I really messed up just looking at the chart on this on but I never expected to get stuck in it. Last I looked I am down 25+% oh well so it goes in the pinks.
Also Anna can blame herself for some of the post didn’t some of the information on patents come from her didn’t some of the promises’ of catching up on the filings come from her? What did she expect? That is why I said do not be surprised.
GLTY

[Srchn41]

I basically quit posting my opinion about Hanover because no one wanted to hear what I had to say. That's fine. All are entitled to their opinion, but some (not you) got downright nasty about it in PM's.

I promised the board that when I got a response from SVFC that I would post it, regardless of whether it proved me wrong or right. I still intend to do that. I hope the response comes in an e-mail so that I can at least have something other than my say so, since I'm sure anything I post will be disparaged by the aforementioned hostile posters in particular.

You might be right about the Hanover effect on shareholders. Time will tell. All I know is that there seems to be a lot of people thinking Hanover is all finished, absolutely rabid about in fact, when I am convinced that Hanover has a long way to go yet.

The really silly thing is that I am still long this stock. I believe in the patent and I think the Hanover deal is a bump in the road that allows the company to get rid of debt. I consider all information that comes my way and make decisions based on my own, admittedly limited, understanding. I'm still trying to process the info from Lawrence. I just don't appreciate being attacked for making honest appraisals of the information.