She filed to sell 36M shares and the CFO filed to sell 4M shares. Doesn’t bode well for a settlement. I was preparing to register and sell half my shares. I didn’t have the time to do it. Those 144s ensured the stock is going nowhere. The SEC needs to be aware of this. Assuming they have any reason to go after Emil and Barbara.

Let’s ask the obvious question.

If there was anything important coming why is the share price sinking and near all time lows.

It currently is about .0065 a share. The 52 week low is .06.

I remember DB claiming the company was doing well because the share price was north of .02. That is true but now it doesn’t move any direction but lower.

Until I see something positive I will continue to believe we will get nothing positive this year and likely never.

I want to get out and I will likely register and sell for the small amount it is worth now. Better to get something than nothing at all.

Carnac has the worst record I have ever seen. Take his turbin and flush Carnac down the toilet.

I think every shareholder here has been defrauded. I will be talking with the lawyers about a class action when everything fails soon. Class action should be brought against several people and the company. Rich, Emil, Barbara and existing shareholders acting as a proxy for the company.

I still have my spreadsheets showing Barbara’s sales of stock totaling over $3M.

The share count continues to increase and my guess is if they settle insiders will get 1-2 billion shares gifted to them. The maximum settlement would likely be $100-$200M if VPLM is successful and the share count will be 10 billion shares or more.

So success to me would likely be a settlement of say $300M. The lawyers would take $50-100 million. The remaining $200M would be divided into 10B shares or more. So the results would be .02 a share.

If you doubt this ask yourself how many settlements are in the plaintiffs favor and a typical settlement. Not many settlements over a few hundred million and if VPLM has proven anything it is that they haven’t succeeded in any case. What are the odds of success now?

Interesting. This is the first post I have seen that provides real hope.

This is one of the biggest sham companies ever

Just issue a letter stating they are moving on to the next faulty way to go after the big companies.

It might be believed more if his wife didn’t file to sell another 33 mill shares and Change didn’t file to sell another 1.6M shares. Change has to pay .005 to get the shares and he will turn around and sell for .006-.008 a share and maybe less.

Believe us we will win and don’t pay attention to the insider selling that is happening. Sorry but no. I don’t believe anything they wrote. If they truly believed this would end well the 144s would have not been filed.

I have said consistently that I would not buy until insiders stopped selling.

Not buying but I have turned slightly positive because I haven’t seen a form 4 from Barbara. Also, they distributed a ton of warrants. Many times that will happen prior to a buyout.

Not that I expect a buyout. But it is a sign.

I would never invest based on the word of anyone here. But I, for the first time, see a sign that something positive could be happening.

Fingers crossed.

I have one good thing to say about VPLM

I always said I would consider buying when insiders stopped selling. I am not sure if it will hold but insiders could sell on 8-15 and the only one selling is Chang. Waiting for a form 4 from Barbara. Nothing so far.

Also the company just handed out huge warrants to insiders. You would expect that to happen prior to good news.

Let’s see what happens.

What a piece of crap company.

It’s at a level now where the .005 options would not result in much of a profit. If insiders are selling at .0085 you know there is an issue.

Pathetic.

What a pathetic company

Biggest scam of all time.

Get lost Deerballs

Not one thing you have said has resulted in anything positive. All you do is spin crap into your perception of gold. Then you scratch and sniff to learn that it is still crap. If I sell today my investment in VPLM is barely break even.

I was hoping for a run to sell at $.05. I can see now that will never happen. Those with unregistered shares will sit on their shares until the price moves to $0. The only winners will will be insiders who sold.

My thoughts exactly. This good news moved the stock close to a 52 week low.

Deerballs is just a huge pumper. He belongs in his car

This isn't a suit that results in anything for VPLM.

The settlement would be with customers. Customers get the $256 billion. The only reason VPLM is doing this is an attempt to get the companies to buy them out and settle the cases asap. This could work but my guess is the settlement would not be huge. But settling with VPLM would allow all the suits to go away.

If the anti trust suit has merit it may work. More than likely I see this going no where. Anti trust suits may move through the courts faster. I really don't know.

At this point I would call a meeting with all the parties and say a buyout or VPLM of $.25 a share and we will go away forever. Maybe they do it just to get rid of the pain in the but Emil forever.

Personally, I would be thrilled with $.25 a share.

When you bring suit against someone for $256 billion dollars it just looks like a frivolous lawsuit.

Current investors will say great. But from the outside you see that and laugh. This is just another dumb suit that is meaningless. It isn't even a suit on behalf of VOIP. Deerballs has been saying there would be huge news for weeks. Everyone assumed it would mean money in our pockets. Instead it was another suit that will cost millions to prosecute and likely see nothing in return.

If they want to file this tell investors what proof you have of an anti trust case. They give no details. My guess is this is thrown out pretty quick unless VOIP can show some proof. All I have seen if a company grasping at straws.

Emil is filing a lawsuit that will not result in a huge payment to VOIP. Instead it is a payment to all the customers. This is just a threat to get the big guys to settle out of court with VOIP and drop all suits including the anti trust lawsuit.

It won't work any more than the other suits have worked. Obviously the market agrees. This happens and the first day the share price is down 13.5%, back to the $.014 after some crazy person bought shares over $.02 today.

Any bets on insiders selling all week? I would bet anything they are still selling.

Investors were told something is happening. I guess the lack of news resulted in a big move. Down 17.4% for the day wiping out all the gains for the week.

For the last 2 weeks we hear something is happening and will likely be this week.
What happens? Nothing. Seems like we get a promise of something happening at least once a month and word comes that Emil and or Rich is more excited and busy than ever. But nothing ever comes of it.

The 10Q is due next week and then all the insiders will begin their selling again. I hope that they decide to stop the selling. If selling stopped it would say more about the future than anything else that could happen. Rumors of good things happening behind the scenes means nothing. We need something to create hope. Insiders holding their shares rather that selling the shares the second they are vested would be great.

For those thinking the pop in the share price means something.

That is not necessarily the case. Remember that insiders sell 3 million shares a week. Beginning on 8/1 they were locked out. That removes a huge drag on the share price. Same thing happened last time the insiders were unable to sell. They can sell again beginning 8/15. If the share price continues to rise after 8/15 maybe the pop in price is meaningful. But until then I wouldn't read a lot into the share price.

Longs to be rewarded soon?

I have read this many times and I am reading that there is something happening behind the scenes. I really hope this is true and something happens that is great for everyone involved. I have a couple million shares and am hoping for a positive outcome. But hope is not a great investment strategy. A settlement of all the cases that resulted in $.25 to $.50 would be life changing for many.

I have heard this from DB and others for over a year that I have been in this stock. I try to remain upbeat that something positive will result from this long fight. The fact that every time a trial gets close it gets resolved in a negative way doesn't not provide a lot of confidence.
Last week DB said something positive would happen that week. I am hoping the resolution of whatever is happening behind the scenes is just a little behind schedule. Agreements between companies have to be reviewed by all parties and the legal departments. This normally results in several iteration of the documents.

I am not saying there is a settlement coming. I put the odds of this happening at less than 10%. But that is me. I am not going to get excited thinking a settlement is near. I just know how big companies work. These companies have unlimited funds to fight and a legal staff that is large and talented. To get a buyout or other type of resolution is very difficult because there are many defendants to deal with.

I would put the odds of a settlement much higher if the insiders were holding their shares. Williams and Chang have sold around 5 million shares a quarter. Barbara had 322 million shares, lost 50 million through the lawsuit early this year and has sold 195M. She currently has around 77.5M shares remaining and sells around 1.1M a week. At that pace she will have no shares by the end of 2025. That doesn't instill confidence.

So let's see what happens. Will hope something happens soon and rewards long term investors. But I am not going to raise my expectations. I will expect nothing and Hope for something positive. Good luck everyone.

One last item on rumors of something happening behind the scenes

I think I have heard that at least 20 times in the last 18 months. I hope it is true but until it happens I have no confidence anything is close to happening.

I am living by my Missouri roots on this one. I am a "show me" kind of guy. I can hope for a good result but I will expect nothing.

Fair Disclosure, Regulation FD (for those that don't know the rules)

Regulation FD addresses the selective disclosure of information by publicly traded companies and other issuers. Regulation FD provides that when an issuer discloses material nonpublic information to certain individuals or entities—generally, securities market professionals, such as stock analysts, or holders of the issuer's securities who may well trade on the basis of the information—the issuer must also make public disclosure of that information. In this way, Regulation FD aims to promote full and fair disclosure.

I believe they have 48 hours to release the information. Insiders have traded throughout this period. The public does not have the results of the trial and why it was cancelled. I believe the trial information is very material and should be released. This will definitely be a reason for a lawsuit against the company and all of those insiders selling if the future does not end well.

Also 2 more filings from Williams and Chang with total sales of 1.6M shares sold in 3 days. There will likely be a filing for Babs and Jin in the next day or 2. The one positive is the lock out period started yesterday. They cannot sell until the release of earnings.

Ex Parte Reexamination indicates the patent office made some sort of adjustment to the patent. This would make the case stronger. However, the company still needs to explain what happened in the ending of the trials for the gateway patent. There is no indication of a settlement. Anyone saying that the company may not be able to tell us is wrong. SEC rules would say that the company has to release any news to the general public that is material to the stock price. It the trial ended with nothing in return it is material and if T-Mobile has settled with a monetary component it is material. Either way the company is responsible for releasing the information within 48 hours.

Occam’s Razor stated the simplest explanation is normally the correct solution


In the case of VPLM the simplest explanation is the patent was not valid and the cases were dropped. On to the next trials.

Deerballs is either a fool or in on it.

As this week progresses and the share price is now sitting at $.0135. The insiders are getting shares at $.005 and selling them like there is no tomorrow.

DB goes to the boards and tells everyone that Rich says everything is great. DB as always says something great is just around the corner. So far every thing stated by DB has been wrong. I have read there will be a surprise a million times over the last year.

What has happened? We got a settlement for $185,000 dollars. We have had several other cases dropped and now we had our first trials ended by the judge just prior to the actual trial. The share price has fallen from $.10 to $.0135 over the last year. That is a drop of 86.5%. But what do I see? Notes from DB telling me everything is good and that the share price is great.

I have no faith in anything happening Just as I said many times. I assumed the trial would be delayed. Instead it was cancelled. It will be on to the next trial. Until that one is cancelled or delayed as well. And all the while insiders will continue to sell shares.

I will guarantee this week will come and go and there will be no positive developments. But, DB will continue to say something good is coming and the ending of these trials is not a bad thing. Until something positive occurs I will continue to say he is wrong.

SUMMARY JUDGMENT OF NON-INFRINGEMENT

Means the judge decided that T Mobile did not infringe on the patents and owes nothing to VPLM. Deerballs as always is saying all is well.

I hate to say it but I don't trust that at all right now. That is the worst possible result of the trial. If T Mobile made a deal to pay royalties or settle in some way without holding a trial it would not have been a summary judgement of non infringement.

I am just pissed the Albright allowed the case to proceed this long. Why would it be thrown out at the last second. It is not right that we don't get an explanation.

Tell us Deerballs

Why were the trials cancelled. What positive spin can you put on the cancellation. Were the trials delayed to a later date or cancelled completely.

I will note that I have been the one saying these trials would not take place. I was proven right.

And the selling by insiders continues. Note that everyone is selling.

New 52 week low today. It's amazing to me that this continues lower. Per Deerballs the stock should be $.75 soon.

Sorry but there is no reason to believe anything these people tell us. I have heard great confidence from Emil, Rich, Deerballs and others. Deerballs tells us many times that there are surprises coming. That Rich tells him how wonderful things are. In the 1 1/2 years I have owned this stock there has been 0 positive developments.

I will remind you I was saying several times that this trial would be delayed. I was wrong. The trial was cancelled.

The question should be why hasn't the company released a PR telling us why the trial was cancelled.

And during the entire process insiders have sold millions of dollars of shares.

I want to update the insider sales. It isn't 2.9M shares Jin filed his sales today and it was another 1.5M shares.

Total insider sales last week were 4.4M shares.

So anyone wanting to know why the share price is not increases as the trial gets close should know now. If they are selling 4M shares a week the share price is never going anywhere.

I think the window is the the beginning of Aug. They will be blacked out from selling the 2 weeks prior to the trial. There should be a nice increase in the share price during that 2 week window.

Insider Sales of 2.9M shares last week by these 3. There could be more but the filing for Jin has not been filed.
Williams 951K
Chang 500K
Barbara 1.5M shares

They are always blacked out on selling for the 2 weeks prior to earnings. That is 8/1 to 8/15.

Personally I think they should be locked out from the end of the qtr to earnings date. I believe that is the normal process. That would have been 7/1 to 8/15.
But I sure would like to see a positive outcome from the trial. I am not getting overly confident. But a good result will move the share price to $.05 minimum and maybe up to $.10 or more.

One day of excitement.

Pathetic. I am sure the fall is because Barbara and the boys continue to sell. Any gains from buying are bet by insider sales. If the insiders were not selling you would see the share price continue higher on speculation. But there is no FOMO when the share price never runs higher.

We won't get the next round of insider selling form 4s until next week. Based on the share price actually falling over these last 2 days with total volume for the 2 days of 19 million shares I am betting Barbara sold at least 3 million, Dennis change likely sold the remaining he can sell on this 144 filed, Kevin Williams had 4.4M he could have sold. I am betting he sold at least 1-2M of those shares

The total sold by insiders on the next form 4s will likely be north of 5 million shares this week. They will have the blackout beginning 8/1. Until then it is unlikely the insiders stop selling.

I finally get a little excited thinking maybe a run has started and it lasts one day.

What I want to see is how many shares the insiders sold this week.
Yesterday's volume was 13M shares. My question is if a buyer showed up did Barbara sell her normal 1.1M share average this week or did she increase he sell to 2, 3 or 4 million shares this week?

If all the insiders sold the form 144 shares this week at a much higher level it will not be a positive sign. I hope like hell Barbara didn't sell any shares but if she did I hope she didn't sell many multiples of her normal amount.

I am shocked the share price is no higher.

Just the fact the trial appears to be set and won’t be moved. Speculation should move it higher.

The best news would be the insiders stopped selling and even better Barbara bought 20-40M more shares. But I am betting the trial earlier this year resulted in the loss of 50M shares and forced her not to purchase more shares.

Why have we heard nothing from the pretrial?

Can anyone provide some information about the trial?

Can someone verify insider selling blackouts.

I know they can't sell the first 2 weeks of Aug. Good timing because there will be several buyers during that period.

Can someone find out if insiders will be blocked from selling from the pretrial to the trial or some period prior to the trial. The black out is related to insider information. As the trial gets close info from the pretrial and negotiations will be funneled to the board. They should not be allowed to travel based on that insider info.

But I have no idea if the company will stop the selling.

Damn insiders are still selling the week prior to the pre trial meeting.

You would think selling would stop. But they are selling throughout the process. Williams, Barbara and Change sold 2.1M shares last week in a shortened week. They had 3 1/2 trading days to sell.
The one good think is we know they can't sell 8/1 to 8/15. The trial is 8/19. So there will be a 2 weeks period leading up to the trial with no insider selling. That will be a time of great anticipation for the trial. I think we will likely see a nice increase in share price during that period. The normal 3-4 million shares that is sold weekly will not be sold and buyers should be plentiful. This should lead to a nice increase in share price. You can see the price is slowly increasing even with the selling by insiders. If they stop there will not be many shares available to buy. This should increase the price significantly.

I am expecting a run in July to 8/19 to $.025 minimum and likely to $.03 to $.05 a share. Hopefully once the pretrial is completed the company tells insiders that they normal 2 week blackout period will be from 7/9 to the end of the trial. Once information from pretrial is coming to the company the board should be blacked out. Let's see if they agree.

Hope that happens. If they stop July/Aug will be the first major uptrend in the stock since last spring.

Well down to the key time.

If the insiders stop selling this stock could run to $.05-$1.0 a share before the trial.

I would expect a settlement before the trial. Question is what amount. Hope it’s significant. If this starts running I will register my shares in July and sell half at $.05. Then hold the rest in case something good happens.

Fingers crossed.

Hope your right but Carnac's batting average has not been very good in the last year.

I would be more confident if the share price was rising into the trial. Instead it's going no where.
As i stated many times. The reason the share price is not moving is insiders are selling several million shares a week. It creates a demand imbalance creating weakness. Plus when nearly every employee at VPLM is selling shares it send a very poor message.

Carnac needs to stop drinking.

I will make a prediction today and let's see if it happens.

I will predict that in 2025 the shares issues to directors and sold to investors will be decreased from $.005 to $.0025, and warrants to Emil will have a exercise price of $.0005.

Emil's warrants have nothin to do with Barbara's sales. You do know that if the stock is sitting at $.10 or more you can exercise all the warrants and it won't be any issue. The warrants are $.001 a share. If you are getting 100 times the warrant price you can either do a cashless transaction or get a loan that is paid off as you sell the shares.

For a billion shares it will take $1M to exercise the shares and the sale of the shares would result in $100M. If you think the sales of shares has anything to do with the warrants you are mistaken.

I think the selling is more likely because they know they outcomes will result in money in several years and all that time the share count will be increasing fast and the share price will continue to fall. Remember that just a year ago the share count was around 3 billion now it is over 5 billion. Those are counting the warrants. By this time next year the share count will likely move to 8 billion The reason is that at some point the will start selling shares for $.0025 a share.

One other thing. Emil's warrant exercise at $.001 today. Based on this companies pact actions I would anticipate the warrants to be repriced for $.0005 or less per share. The decision of the repricing of everything will be made by Emil. He has total control.