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Those are all great points, Kona.
Perhaps one other thing I can think of is marketing. Despite all their achievements, they aren't even close to having name recognition outside a small group of investors and tech people. I think as AQ64 gets closer to reality, they need to spend some advertising bucks to start getting their name out there and building some hype. They are ahead in nearly every other category, might as well be ahead in marketing, too. They have first mover advantage thus far. I would love if they also become a household name sooner rather than later. When people think of quantum computers, I want IonQ to be the first company they think of.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR THE WEEKEND:
So, IonQ is cruising right along with its tech advancements. But what does IonQ still need to achieve to send this baby to outer space? Here's what I see. Let's get a list together. Everyone comment and add your thoughts if you like.
POWER
Forte launched early. Forte Enterprise online soon. Both AQ35, which is pretty damn powerful already. Tempo set to launch in 2025, according to IonQ. And if their track record holds, it's likely to be early in 2025. According to Peter Chapman, this AQ64 model (Tempo) will be many times more powerful than the fastest classical computer in existence. That is truly groundbreaking stuff. And if daisy chaining them together increases their power, that just adds another level of holy shit. So, I think they are crushing it in power/speed advancements. And speaking of daisy chaining:
ENTANGLEMENT
IonQ claims to have essentially solved ion>>>ion entanglement using photonic interconnects. This will allow a network of machines to all be interconnected, either in the same location or remotely. To me, this is maybe their biggest achievement in the past few years. This allows scaling of power, and also the redundancy that businesses and government agencies require to operate 24-7-365 without interruption caused by a single failed device. Companies always have a network of computers all working together and providing backup should one tooth in the cog fail. While quantum data centers will be smaller and use much less electricity, they will still be a necessity. And I'm sure their technique is patented, which makes it that much harder for the competition to achieve this. So, no problems here.
FIDELITY
99.9% gate fidelity achieved. But I would imagine their goal is as close to 100% as possible, and while they probably have work to do in this area, they seem to be well on their way to achieving sufficient gate fidelity. Conclusion, work yet to be done but well on their way.
CONTRACTS
IonQ has already secured some lucrative and impressive business agreements. But many people, namely narrow-minded newbie investors, only look at revenue and contracts ... which is quite foolish at this early stage. The viability of the tech is more important for the next year or two. But let's talk money. They have a lot of cash on hand. But yes, at some point a company has to achieve profitability. My opinion is that once AQ64 hits, and the fastest classical computers are blown out of the water, the contracts will come piling in. While other quantum companies are just trying to figure out how to scale their machines to a usable level, IonQ will already be providing a mature product and service, along with the support of the coding community, which is what makes computers useful in the first place. If you put garbage into a computer, you are only going to get garbage out, as the saying goes. Biotech, communication, financial, transportation, artificial intelligence, etc... The emergent quantum coding community is already embracing IonQ's unique brand of trapped ion tech. That is a HUGE deal. Conclusion: no massive, massive contracts yet, but no quantum company has landed any really. IonQ's Air Force deal is the largest quantum contract yet, and there will many more to come. So, to be continued...
So what other areas does IonQ need to improve upon?
You don't need to do anything. You will either find shares of another company in your account. Or a load of cash in your account.
I, for one, will not be selling my shares if IonQ is bought out. Because whatever company theoretically buys IonQ, lock stock and barrel, becomes the best quantum computer company in the world on that day. Doesn't matter if Nvidia is bursting at the seems, share price-wise. If they buy IonQ, they will go up even more, doing forward split after forward split in the months/years after. It changes nothing if there's a buyout. It's still a long hold for me.
Good to see the share price fight back this afternoon. Plenty of folks took profits this morning when it hit $13.70. That stuff tends to happen on Fridays when a stock has seen a long run-up like this.
That would be amazing. Earnings report is 2.5 weeks away. Plenty of time for theatrics.
Hopefully we can establish a base above $13. Looks like all the shorts are getting torched.
Putting all this info on this board may have tipped them off and they are not answering the door now. Perhaps we should keep all this stuff private from now on. They can just come on here and see our whole strategy.
IonQ makes everything in house. By chip he means their trapped ion chip. Chip is just a general term.
To further my post, and to put it into context...
Chapman doesn't specify "fraction of second." But let's just say he meant 1/5th of a second. That would make IonQ Tempo (64 qubit model) about 75 times more powerful than the most powerful classical computer on Earth.
If he meant 1/10th of second, that makes Tempo 150 times more powerful.
At 1/20th of a second, that is 300 times more powerful.
And that's using standard wall jack, not the massive amount of electricity that classical supercomputers use.
Now imagine the 256 qubit model. Tempo (64 qubit) is going to blow things wide open. The 256 qubit model is going to obliterate all. Then daisy chain two or three of them together.
Holy. Shit.
And this isn't theoretical. It's almost surely coming.
Game over.
Interesting bit from the recent interview Chapman did on Youtube.
Link here:
I know how to trade, but I am primarily an investor. I traded IonQ a bit in the beginning to grow my position, then added a lot more as it dipped well below $7. But I think trading it now is too risky, and I don't seem to have much luck in that regard, so I've learned my lesson over the years. I also work nights and am not awake when the markets are open, so that makes it next to impossible, unless I never want to sleep.
I have been in this ticker for long enough to not get super excited about these spikes. Up in waves, down in waves. The earth-shattering AQ64 model is still 6-12 months off. Plenty of time for this to go up and down like a roller coaster. I am super long, so I don't really care about the day to day, and the week to week. If the price falls to my average or below, I start buying again. That's really the extent of my strategy with this stock. I am okay with my position currently, but if I am forced to increase it, I am okay with that too. I am 47 years old and will only be in the work force for about another 20 years. I am thinking about retirement money, not a down payment on a new car or any nonsense like that. IonQ is still a lottery ticket, and I haven't put in more than I am willing to lose should the whole thing crumble, which is possible with any company. But the future is looking bright, indeed.
Indeed. That elusive $11 resistance was smashed.
Good idea. I will work on it tonight at work.
Not exactly sure what to make of this current push. It can't be all the Air Force contract. And it can't be all hype/fomo. And it's a little early for a earnings report run up. We know institutions and funds are accumulating. But I am getting the sense that a lot of people are just learning how close quantum tech is getting to taking over and can't believe how long they slept on companies like IonQ. When I try to talk to people about quantum, I just get blank stares like I started talking Greek or something. They then go, "I though that was like 20 years away." Then when I try to explain trapped ion systems in a general sense they go back to a blank stare like I started talking Chinese. LOL. But I think the retail market is starting to wake up to this technology, and IonQ specifically.
And I've said this for many years now. True A.I. depends on powerful quantum computers making it possible. Classical computers won't be able to do it. For some reason the markets and general sentiment jumped on the A.I. bandwagon first. To me that seemed like putting the chicken before the egg. We need quantum first before A.I. is able to progress past the point where we are now, which is just "smart software" that makes stupid pictures and creates dumb pictures and videos. None of that is true A.I.
Not that big. Down less than 5% currently. The paper-handed losers are all dumping to pay for their next Taco Bell visit.
Good stuff. Would be great if we could close over $11.
Funny how they are still listing SAGA as the parent company of Virogenics, and hence the owner of ITV-1, when SAGA is a delisted company. LMFAO. They keep claiming the business combination went through, but SAGA was delisted and we were never issued the shares we were PROMISED in writing, along with a "make whole" promise in case SAGA share value tanked immediately. These people are so out of touch it's hilarious at this point.
So to summarize: ENZC claims to have been sold to SAGA, a delisted company, which now owns the ITV-1 patent and the IPF patent. Meanwhile, the Coptropias and Chandra have bailed to start Adnexus with Clone 3 and the A.I. tech. So what is left at ENZC? Absolutely nothing. They have both bailed on a publicly traded company and taken intellectual property with them in violation of law and fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders. This is beyond fu#ked at this point.
I still think, whether they receive the letters or not, that they are going to go the "ignore" route. They are going to go silent about the whole thing. I would be shocked if we see any kind of response from any of the C's.
I never said that. I still don't know what you are talking about. They have cloud services, systems sales, etc... They have had product for years now.
I have no clue what that was all about. I am super long and super high on this company, obviously. I have thousands of shares and haven't sold a single one, and likely won't for quite a few years. But the market is the market. I am not one of those people who thinks stock runs last forever, or stay up forever. The scumbag shorts and swings eventually chip away at everything once a run-up ends. That is just the reality of the markets.
What the bloody hell are you talking about? I have been in this stock since the DMYI days and haven't sold a share.
It is moving much faster than anyone could have predicted. Perhaps even faster than Ray Kurzweil predicted. I remember about 3-4 years ago, everyone was saying that a truly viable quantum computer design would not happen until 2030 at the earliest ... more likely 2035. Well, here we are with 2025 right around the corner, and a viable model is only a few months away. Last half of this decade is going to see some radical changes for humanity. My guess is that decades and centuries into the future, we will look back on this 2025-2035 period as a massively important leap forward in the human race because of the technology leap.
With QaaS, you are talking about this article, right?
https://www.stockgumshoe.com/reviews/blue-chip-growth/detease-navelliers-qaas-and-bezos-next-trillion-dollar-bet/
Time to put the screws to 'em. They all deserve it, in my opinion. CCC may have not been the ones doing the illegal moves, but they were complicit in the way they let it go on for so long, and continued to deceive investors, and now are trying to abscond with the valuable I.P.s when they represented them to be a part of ENZC. I honestly have no compassion for them at all.
I'm hoping we can maintain $10+. Because without further news or hype of some kind, the buying pressure will subside and the shorts and swings will start chipping away, unfortunately. AQ64 can't come soon enough to truly move us up to a much higher level and stop this see-sawing.
If IonQ is smart they will put it into sales contracts that a small percentage of any invention or patent conceived with IonQ machines and code will belong to them. Say a biotech company invents some cure for colon cancer only because of IonQ technology, then IonQ gets 5% of revenue or something. That might be a tall order, but I hope they are thinking in those terms. And I hope for government bodies and large corporations they are putting a time limit on the use of their machines so that companies can't buy an IonQ QC and use it for 15 years. Make system sales essentially like a 3-5 year lease or something for repeat sales. Because at some point their machines will be so powerful and so reliable that they won't need replacing really, just sporadic repairs or refurbishment. Make 'em sign a lease-use contract. After 3 years, sorry, you have to upgrade!
Nice! Great to close over $10.50. I just hope it's not a Monday Massacre.
I agree. Next year, especially second half, is going to be wild.
It will be patient use, not physician setting. Wait and see, shortie.
Not sure.
Quite the heavy volume. And it moves up steadily. I like that. No massive swings. Just healthy, incremental moves upward.
Agreed. No matter where we close, breaking cleanly through $10 is important. It's not like we touched $10.01 for 5 seconds or something. This is sustained trading above $10.15.
Another dip and rip today. Hope the profit taking isn't severe later today. Swing traders don't like to hold through the weekend.
MM120 is a microdose medication that does not produce any auditory, visual or other hallucinations. It would not be required to be taken in a clinic setting under physician supervision. That is false.
If the Air Force and the Fed in general like what they see, I think they choose IonQ as their quantum horse for all military branches. They are only going to choose one. And it's definitely going to be an American company for security reasons.
Indeed I am the mod here. My first share buys were pre-spac on the old ticker. That's how much I believe in IonQ and quantum. I'm actually the one who requested InvestorsHub start this IonQ board.
Coulnd't agree more. And I think NVDA is the most logical buyer. They know they are going to have to adapt in the next 10-15 years or their dominance will wane to next to nothing as quantum takes over. And what if some quantum graphics processor is invented that can process 4K or 8K video at rates hundreds times faster than Nvidia's fastest GPU currently can? That would be the death knell for them. They know computing is at a crossroads. They have enough money to buy whatever company they want. IonQ is the best one. But like most corporate entities, they want to make sure a new technology is sound and viable before making an offer. And IonQ is far enough along, and has proved their tech enough, that they are worth a LOT of money even if their current market cap is not high. A company is worth its future earnings potential, not simply its market cap at the moment. A lot of newbies don't understand this (not implying you, of course).
Indeed. Lots of swing traders and firms also buy low then set arbitrary buy orders at $9.90 or $9.95. That's why tickers always get beaten back when they approach these multiples of $5. Once they get a few cents away, the buy orders are triggered, which sets off a wave of panic selling from new traders as they think the stock is tanking for some reason. Then stop losses are triggered as it gets lower. Sets off a whole chain reaction of retardation. This is the result of electronic trading. In times past people didn't even know what was going on with their holdings on a daily basis, let alone have the ability to set buy and sell orders down to the penny. Too much overreaction in today's markets. Things would be a lot smoother and less volatile if a lot of these trading tools were taken away.
Weird. Worked for me this morning. It's on that "Stone Barium's" page. It very clearly and succinctly summarizes IonQ's tech and recent accomplishments, as well as all their current contracts and business/scientific collaborations.
MM120 is a dissolving, oral medication prescribed by a doctor or psychologist and taken in the home or any other place the patient wants. There is no clinic session or physician monitoring. It's also not LSD, shrooms or ecstasy in their street drug forms. MM120 is a new molecule that is subject to the same toxicity and side effect testing as any other new medications, and it has already passed that scrutiny or it would not have made it to phase 3. Not sure, other than shorties bashing, why these stupid falsehoods are still being repeated.