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They announced it already. Do you want them to announce it again? Well i'm sure they will announce it again, no date and time though. The thing that will likely never happen is them actually paying the dividend. Or maybe they dilute the shareholders to death and then hand out a numerous times postponed on ex-date share price crashing dividend. But not likely because share base is so big even 5 cents gets costly to pay from dilution money.
It's a creepy feeling noticing the scam and share sales moving to Merkur in Norway and at the same time the promoters disappear here I guess not being relevant anymore to the US share sales.
I always thought there can't be that many idiots, must be a single source for many of them...
They did a number on many people here believing...
Confirmed. 0 shares sold in OTC and Merkur over 500 000.
Dilution sales have changed location.
They are moving business from OTC to Merkur. Maybe Merkur is ahead with getting latest information?
Annual return of $ 0,00.
I have all the the proof. Everything in real life supports this being a scam.
You have only what Solly writes and blind belief in that plus heavy losses.
Proof is no cash, no bank relations, no harvests or customers seen, dilution, same things we have seen and gone through many times.
Your only proof is their reports. This is a China space -98% heavy dilution agricultural tax free sector company. HIGHEST probability for a scam. When you see things like those above it's case closed and red flags, red lights and sirens screaming scam.
We have been giving the right info. Everything that has happened in real life has supported it.
Up to you who you believe and what choices you make.
The trail of evidence is overwhelming.
In general OTC China stuff is mostly toxic, closer to gambling than investing really.
It doesn't matter. Siaf stake in TRW has not given any cash flow to the Siaf company or it's shareholders. Therefore the market assumption that these two companies are the same scam entity without any real business has been proven already.
With 1/3 stake at TRW you got nothing. Only heavier dilution.
A fact.
Thanks for the info, the guys here have been practically fooling that this company has been paying dividends before if this is the case.
These have been probably been paid to 10 million outstanding shares so it's peanuts.
And obviously with dilution money.
The scam has unfolded a bit more once again.
The company is a scam. Your support = losses for investors.
The company should have no support in their scam operation.
You have over $ 200 MILLION damage to the company at minimum!!
Dilution at 1,5% of the claimed book value now. Over 50% dilution this year. That makes at least $ 200 million damage if you believe the books.
Why you even bother with these assessments of insignificant damages when the company management is destroying way more than a 100 typhoons?
Is it because you now the assets are not real, you know this is a scam, you know they will never stop dilution and you just want cheap tricks for temporary solution and cover the real problems?
The company management doesn't buy at 1,5% of the book value only prints more and more. That's huge damage highest priority alarm red lights and sirens going like crazy saying it's a china dilution scam 100% sure.
Fake assessments of fake assets tell you this is real?
Real heavy dilution tells you skepticism is crazy?
How has this worked for you?
Dividend policy = % amount company pays dividend from it's net profits. Not necessarily exact, giving the ballpark. Siaf just totally abused this being non-binding and announced cents amount while having absolutely no cash and diluting at the same time.
You have non binding policy, no money and no date.
Just market manipulation to aid profits from the real business which is selling shares.
Dilution and dividend are opposites. Real life is heavy dilution for Siaf. No company that is diluting should be paying dividends, it makes no sense. Except if you are trying to save the face of a scam.
Shareholders should demand ending the dilution at 1,5% of the book value.
But i guess most know it won't stop and most know the book value is just hot air, so they prefer these share price manipulating tricks like non-binding "dividend policy announcements".
To sell shares -> "dividend policy". Won't be paid, they started backing up already. Besides they have diluted worth many NEGATIVE dividends this year already. Totally absurd but it's not if you admit it's just a scam
Earlier ones were years ago, most likely with some poor investors loan money. Since then total yield -90% including that dividend.
Yes for making scam look legit and to aid share sales.
It will be used when it matters. Next Q-report stating that "no cash for dividend at this time" will be that time.
They don't need to promote the damages.
Everything about this company is totally unbelievable so why bother building something that can have some negative impact on their share selling operation in the meanwhile.
Market believes 1,5% of the "development".
There isn't any really. No money, no profits, no bank relations, promises betrayed and trust is lost. No harvests, no customers.
Only dilution.
Everything points to a dilution scam, nothing points to a real agricultural company.
I'm pretty sure if you just wait the bill for damage will get higher and it will be used as an excuse for dilution and delays.
It will be used for that, just wait.
Real life facts say: scam.
-Heavy dilution
-Past claimed wins are tens of times worth current market value, everything vanished.
-Business model not believable from cow dung to fruit trees.
-Market does not believe, P/B is 0,015.
-All promises broken.
-No bank relations
-Always excuses and explanations that are getting really silly
-Board has 145 000 messages in ihub, tell tale sign of a scam
I hope nobody ever was fruit cake enough to believe in Siaf fruit trees.
It's not relevant to Siaf shareholders.
Either made up or not entitled to cash flow business.
This is a scam and only thing relevant is that this typhoon will be used as an excuse to not to pay dividend and continue dilution.
Siaf shareholders do not own any business except printing and selling their own shares.
This is just their stories trýing to act believable soon becomes the part when they dilute more.
If they had these mt's of harvests you would have gotten share value raise and not a dilution based death spiral of the share price.
It is just misleading to talk about these nonsense fantasy metric tons of whatever that have not materialized in any way for Siaf shareholders.
215 shares sold!! =D At 98,5% discount of the "book value" it's hard to sell. -99,99% would sound more realistic valuation and that's where this scam is heading to!
No volume, quiet before dilution storm...
50 million shares soon, within 2 weeks. And then we go after next round number: $0,20 !
I HOPE fruit trees will stop the dilution!
Exactly. Scamming at it's purest.
It is just circus, ceremonial distribution of nothing for dummies.
Siaf already owns TRW 1/3, we have seen it didn't lift the share price, it didn't give any money to Siaf, it didn't help in any way. Only thing they use it for is an excuse why Siaf has no money and has to dilute. It was supposed to be the opposite.
The only thing, no1, no2 and no3 on the list for Siaf shareholders is stopping the dilution.
The scam marketers don't demand that because they know it's the only business what this "company" does.
Instead they talk about this kind of ceremonial distribution of nothing and making up value for nothing.
Scamming at it's purest.
TRW has no value. Since 1/3 ownership Siaf got nothing. Siaf should have gotten 1/3 of the cash flow to fix its problems, pay debts etc. But no. Nothing. Only heavier dilution.
Obviously TRW is just Siaf part2, big talk, nothing in real life.
Same BOD, same Solly and same "no have money".
Some ceremonial distribution of paper has no value.
This is scamming 101.
Siaf owns already 1/3 of TRW. It is in the share price already.
It is P/B 0,015, diluting over 50% this year. Most OTC China stocks are scams of some sort. Siaf is no exception. The numbers are complete rubbish compared to their real life results.
They print and sell at 1,5% of the book value, management doesn't buy.
You can have papers done, take people on tour to somebody's(!) premises and have people market your stock on the internet.
But they can't print money and say it comes from businesses they don't have. They have to print shares and sell them.
They are not believable, they are broke, they dilute, they are Chinese agricultural tax free section company, most prone to being a scam. They are down -98%.
It doesn't get more obvious than that.
I'm right. These are company excuses.
They blame it on the beef, they don't sell it, it makes no sense but you believe.
They sell shares and blame bad loans which they took when claimed to be highly profitable. Makes no sense but you believe.
They don't sell ANY assets, it makes absolutely no sense in their situation, but you believe.
Actually their whole scattered around "business model" is completely ridiculous, they just gather these silly things on paper as assets so they can sell shares based on their "value". The business model makes absolutely no sense but you believe.
At this stage with bad loans and dilution and urgent need to concentrate on aquaculture if it was real.. ..they start "flower business". It's already laughable but you believe.
These are all excuses for the simple fact that it's a scam without businesses and they have to LOOK like they lots of business but HAVE NOTHING which is why they sell shares.
It's a scam is very logical explanation, it explains everything and company real life actions get logical.
RD, so you turned the numbers upside, inside out, checked, double checked and final checked.
And did you see $0,25 coming September 2018?
Nope...
Maybe you saw $50? $100? $30?
The only way to explain current behavior, dilution and shareprice is = it's a scam.
You don't even have to turn the numbers. Just look at them now and nothing makes sense in real life if they are real. Therefore they are not.
They can't get cash from their own company, not from TRW, not form bank... Only share sales.
And it's dressed up as Siaf cash goes to build TRW capex and people cry "that's insane don't do that!" They flash big millions going from Siaf to TRW, big millions in TRW assets getting even bigger.
It's not at all like that. That would be insane indeed to destroy the other company especially if TRW is so profitable already. They don't even need to build anything.
BUT, it's just acting like they have millions while having absolutely nothing.
In real life it's just dilution based on these stories. There's no millions going anywhere, no cashflows, no profits.
The companies are just shells.
That explains everything and things become rational instead of irrational.
All company behavior, management behavior, share price, dilution, EVERYTHING makes sense if you accept this to be the reality.
Yes i did get it right.
Those numbers you believe from their reports are complete fantasy. They are the scam which is used to sell the shares they print.
There is no business at TRW it has already been proven since Siaf got the 1/3 ownership. No dividend, no help for Siaf, just one more excuse to be broke and dilute.
Same BOD, same Solly, same scam.
The numbers are all lies.
Take a look at the share price 12 million total including 1/3 of TRW. Nobody believes. Take look at the company selling their own shares at 98,5% discount, they don't believe. Take a look at the need for dilution, it tells there's no cash flow within the Siaf/TRW scam.
Doesn't look like 5 million. Roof and bunch of concrete and looks like done with village handymen. We go back to the time some 15 months ago when i said everything looks cheap, inactive and even questionable if they are Siaf's belongings, especially any better looking stuff.
Now we are almost 90% lower with share price and dilution getting out of hand.
I got it right what's going on.
What I'm saying that a Siaf shareholders pockets $ 0,00 from that facility and whoever in real life grows or stores there whatever is probably no millionaire either.
It's not big, it looks very cheaply made and most importantly as always it doesn't say "Siaf" anywhere.