Hi California Chrome,

I just wanted to clarify what you just posted so it is clear to everyone that this is IN FACT THE COCA COLA COMPANY.

What you just posted.....


© Trenton Bottling Company LLC. All rights reserved 2013

The Coca-Cola Company© is not a sponsor of or responsible for the content of this web site.
Trenton Coca-Cola Bottling Company LLC. is a separate legal entity and uses the trademarks of The Coca-Cola Company by written agreement.

http://trentonbtlgwrks.com/about-us.html


My explanation,

It just states that Coke is not a sponsor or responsible for the content of the WEBSITE. It did not say anything about Coke not having an affiliation with this company. Its just talking about the website in this first statement

SECONDLY, look at the second statement you post. It clearly says that Trenton Coca-Cola uses the trademarks of the Coca-Cola company. They can't use the trademarks of coke unless coke gives them permission to do that. And coke is only going to give them permission to do that if there is some type of affiliation like for example Trenton Company distributes coke products.

Further it states....by written agreement... just more evidence that Trenton company is in a written agreement with Coke and has the authority to use the name coke.

For anyone who does not know what trademarks are... Coke is the only company who has the rights to their trademarks (Coke is the trademark)... and the only way any other company can use the trademark Coke is by Coke granting permission to that company. And they would grant that permission by written agreement as stated above.

So just a recap... it is very clear from the statement you posted that Trenton Coke has an agreement with Coke to use their trademark and therefore must be affiliated with Coke in someway so they could use the name Coke. Further, I don't think its a big deal that coke has stated that they have no responsibility for Trenton Coke's Company's website. Coke has distributors all over the country that work for them. They can't be responsible for all their websites. And they wouldn't get their product any where if these distributors were not working for them and distributing their product.

In my honest opinion... it is a huge deal that a huge distributor like Trenton Coke is picking up a drink like this. Secondly, I've worked at tradeshows for drinks and talked to representatives from Coke looking to pick up new drinks. It is clear to me from my conversations with these representatives that the only way Coke is going to pick up a drink at all is through one of their distributors like Trenton Coke. Test it in that area and than as it builds popularity, distribute it nationally. From my conversations, for Coke to even consider picking up a drink that drink needs to be making so much in sales. This really limits who coke will even consider working with. So this drink company must be doing well for coke to have picked them up.

One more thing to add, I don't know if you guys noticed another drink company last week who had a huge run... TB*V... I think it ran 350% the first day and like 200% the second day and ran the rest of the week as well. A little different news than this company... but people didn't think it was going to continue to run and it did.

When it comes to drinks being distributed, its a huge deal to get distribution especially by coke and that is why this company sky rocketed today.

Just my honest opinion.

You'd be a fool not to buy in at this level. This is a give away here. This is going to by flying up very shortly. (in my opinion). Check out bar charts. 100% buy.

http://www.barchart.com/opinions/stocks/SITS

Hey, Got the email. Thanks.

Nighty Night All. Wish a good day for everyone tomorrow. Thanks all for all your posts tonight.

Go AVTI!

Hey Guys,

Great day today! Liked the PR. I'm sure more news will come soon.

Excited about tomorrow. Today I think had a big trend reversal and I believe this stock is on its way up again! My only concern is how dead the board is tonight.

Today, it went up in price similar to the July 27 run. Last time it hit a low of .0014 the day before and once forming a base at .0014, on the 27th went all the way up to .0021. Then on the 28th it ranged from .0018 to .0032 and on the 29th it ranged from .0025 to .0038.

Similarly yesterday we hit a low .0012 and today we started our upward trend again. Today we had a range of .0012 to .0021 (similar to the 27th). Closing at .0017 today puts us in a similar position as last time to potentially break .0021 resistance tomorrow. Once we break .0021 its easy sailing to the .003s as evidenced by the last run.

Lets see what happens.

Hey Guys, Just my enthusiastic opinion.

This stock is going to fly tomorrow. If you haven't noticed, for weeks this stock's price has been flying up with minimal buying pressure. The share structure is awesome. The people that have had strong hands and played this stock smartly have made a ton of money already and news hasn't even come yet.

The last time this stock hit a low of .0014 it took two days to fly right back up to .0038. I'm not even worried about it hitting .0006. No matter what bottom it finally stops at, once the bottom is definite and clear for people, its going to bring a surge of investment right back into the stock increasing to even higher highs. The stock has done it 5 or 6 times already in the last couple of weeks consecutively and it hasn't changed its pattern once. The lower it goes the higher the run will be.

This run that begins tomorrow will break .0042, even if it takes a couple of days. With such bargain basement prices, the best share structure I've seen on a penny stock all summer, good news on the horizon, and such a low price, there is no where for this stock to go but up. People would be fools to not get in while they can.

Its a win win situation for all. Once news comes out this stock is going to be clearly over the prices it is trading at now which basically puts no risk on any investors. And I can't emphasize enough how because this stock moves so easily up in price, its not that difficult for the stock to break its last high of .0038.

Go AVTI!

I know the Kosher argument is basically done but found this nice article from the NY times and wanted to share. Its very current too.

Quote from the article,
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"According to the market research survey, 62 percent of people who buy kosher foods do so for quality reasons, while 51 percent say they buy kosher for its “general healthfulness.” About one-third say they buy kosher because they think food safety standards are better than with traditional supermarket foods. Only 15 percent of respondents say they buy kosher food because of religious rules."
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Heres the article
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/13/more-people-choosing-kosher-for-health/

I agree. He has all these products now Ken should go on QVC of HSN. He could be the solar guy. Informercials/ HSN / QVC are the best way to sell these type of products. Aside from the chargers people really won't know how these products work until they see them in action.

I like the cooker video.

I still think some of you guys aren’t getting how big “national distribution” is. I kind of get that feeling from your cynicism to my last post.

So I’m just going to list how many locations in the US there are of every store that was listed in the PR that this distributor distributes to.

Sam’s Club As of January 2009-- 602 Stores in 48 states
BJ Wholesale- 180 locations in 15 states
ABC Liquor- 150 stores
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TOTAL 932 Stores

**And this isn’t even including all the stores the distributor distributes to as the PR states. This is just 3 names of chains of all the stores the distributor distributes to.
**And this number of stores isn’t even including Canada.

So I am just going to take an approximation from the 40 stores that HFBG currently sells to in PA. Please refer to Ibox.

Right now HFBG sells 65 cases per month per store in PA. Each case is $24. So 65 cases= (65x24) =$1560 per store per month

Now add all the stores we have together for Sams Club, BJ Wholesale, and ABC Liquor= 932 stores

932 Stores X $1560= $1,453,920 per month

Now, I would argue this estimate is very undervalued (this may be a small percentage of what a national distribution contract would bring us in sales) because
-65 cases a month is very low estimate when supplying such stores as BJ because those stores sell their products in larger quantities. Each Bjs and Sam’s Club might take 2 or 3 times that amount. (3X1.4mil= 4.4mil)
-I’m not sure what type of stores we are selling to right now but if they are convenient type stores, then I would also argue that average size stores like grocery stores would probably be supplied more then a convenient store
-We haven’t included all the stores from Canada. If there are half as many stores in Canada distributing to-- thats 450 more stores. (450 stores X $1560= $702,000 X 3=$ 2,106,000 ) for half (450) the stores in Canada we are looking at between $702,000 to $2.1 million more a month depending on how much is supplied to each store.
-We just included three chain stores listed. The PR clearly states there are more then 3 chains this distributor distributes to. There could be as many as 10 or 15 chains with that many stores each. 10 chains with 200 stores nationally each comes to 2000 more stores. (2000 X $1560=$3,120,000 more per month)
-This is just starting off == before the product is even known. Once the product get publicity there will be a lot more demand. And if I am reading the ibox right, the stores that are currently selling it are getting a lot of buys.

So Grand Estimate== POTENTIAL from National Distribution Deal…
(US Large Stores 4.4 Million + Canada 2.1mil+ Other Chains 3.1 mil = $ 10 million per month) This estimate down here is still a low estimate for national distribution. This is a starting off estimate before product is known.

So I did some research on all the companies that are selling beverages to Wal-Mart. Why Walmart? You need big national distribution to get your product there.

It seems like the majority of those companies are the big companies. The big companies sell -- Pepsi- stock price- $62.69, Coke- $52 and the Dr. Pepper Snapple Company- $36.83. The smallest company I saw sell to Wal-mart was Cotts Beverages which is currently selling at $6.46 stock price . However, even that company was at $25 at one time or another. So these are all big companies selling these products. And usually brands with smaller names end up being sold by the big companies. Example== Squirt, RC Cola, Schweppes, and Diet Rite are sold by the Dr. Pepper Snapple company. Nestea is a Coke product. Cotts Beverages sells Sam’s Cola which is a private label brand.

Cotts Beverage has 1 billion in sales each year. For 2010 January til April 3 sold 263 million dollars in revenues in North America and 152 million cases of 8 oz beverage in North America. Now I’m not saying HFBG is going to be the next Cotts Beverages but when you have national distribution, that is what the small companies sell. Here is a link to the financials of Cotts. http://www.cott.com/content/en/investors/news/linkedDocuments/COTT REPORTS

So from my research it doesn’t seem likely that HFBG will have national distribution without being bought out by one of the four or five main beverage companies. And if it doesn’t get bought out, you better believe the price is going to be more then you could have imagined. Either way, in the long run this is a good situation for investors.

I'm in agreement with all you guys that believe that this stock's price is still going to go up. I know it looks bad now but US distribution to all 50 states through a big distributor is priceless. I know a ton of you are longs on this and those are the ones who are going to reap the huge benefits here. If that distribution deal goes through this isn't just going up to .0035. This company is going to make huge profits. I see this company moving off the pinksheets all together. If this deal does go through which we should know by July 2 I am really considering being a long on this stock which I wasn't before. You could have the nicest tasting and best looking product ever, but without distribution you really don't have anything that valuable. With national distribution this company will be werth over a dollar after 6 months of revenues coming in.

Hey Guys,

So I was in both NWT* and HFBG before today. Both had the most awesome news this morning and I was very excited. Especially about the Distribution deal. Both of them had horrible days for such good news.

All I got to say is that is alot of A/S shares for HFBG. However, if they didn't have a distribution deal lined up I don't think the whole lets add another 2bil shares would have gone so well. And yea it didn't go that well, but it could have been way worse. Also, I could see how a company starting up might be strapped for cash. We know once this distribution deal goes through this is going to be one worth while stock, it just has to make it to that point. Everyone knows it, distribution (US & Canada) is the key to this company being sucessful and we are soooo close.

I think if we could get ourselves back to trading where we were in the next two days--between .0008-.0010. I think our next PR is going to blow the price of this stock out of the water. Remember if we had this much volume over the anouncement of a distribution deal could you imagine how much volume there is going to be when the big distributor is named and the distribution deal is finalized. Oh, and the PR said the latest it would be named is July 2. Also, provided the company doesn't choose to dilute further. We just have to find out how we're going to gain some trust back in this company, too.

Don't think its the end of the world. I guess everyone just has to stay strong and don't give up.

Talk to you guys later. Have a nice night!

Hey Gamood,Ninja Turtle, and Nobullhere,

I just wanted to get this information out there. And I am in complete agreement with you guys that the next couple PRs will tell alot for us.

So in terms of being undervalued…. Gamood, I told you I had a whole lot of reasons for this stock being undervalued and I was just going to give you the easiest/ clearest/most obvious reason first which was the most recent PR from HFBG that stated that there was going to be a buyout. You’ve clarified how you don’t agree bc you can’t rely on Prs from pink sheets.

A.) So my first response to that is…you are correct in that you can’t rely on Prs from pink sheets how ever that statement needs to be clarified. You can’t rely on Prs from pink sheets because they can be misleading, however if you do your DD you will be capable of clearing any ambiguities up. The fact of the matter is in Pink Sheets, statements can be misleading but companies certainly can’t lie in Prs and if they do lie, they could go to jail or be sued. Therefore, if HFBG states that a buyout is currently taking place then a buyout is taking place. HFBG didn’t say anything like there was a potential buyer or a due diligence check needed to be made before the buyout could be completed. They said at this point in time-- the buyout had already started. They also clearly stated that "the current price" range of the stock from .0007 to .0011 was "a discounted rate." I really don’t see how you can mislead someone with those statements unless you are blatantly lying. Though, I agree with you in that you still have to do your DD and figure out how much the buyout is going to be for, and the specifics of the buyout which will come in future Prs and if future PRs don’t come, then start demanding answers.

Just to clarify further here is the actual paragraph put out from the most recent PR,
“Hall of Fame Beverages would also like to take this time to announce that The Company is in the process of developing a share buyback program. The Company feels that it is in the best interest of all involved to purchase shares of HFBG while the share price is at, what The Company feels, a discounted rate. A minor amount of shares have already been purchased on behalf of The Company. More information about the program will be released when it is finalized.”

An analysis of the paragraph

WHAT DO WE KNOW FROM STATEMENTS
-The company right now is developing a buyback program
-So stipulations of buy back are not finalized.
-The company has started buying back shares already
-The shares that have been purchases so far are a small amount
-The share that have been purchased so far are on behalf of the company
-The price range of .0007-.0011 PPS HFBG believes is a discounted rate for their stock
-Suggests company (HFBG) is buying back and not another company or a partner or joint venture.
-When Buyback Program is final HFBG will explain details.

WHAT AMBIGUITIES ARE THERE
-What are stipulations of buyback including the price of the buyback
-When will buyback take place
-Specifically how many shares have been bought already
-Are the terms that have been used for the buyback of the initial shares will they be the same for the shares that are bought once buyback procedure finalized
-Are there any partners involved in the buyback

Forward Looking Statement Disclaimer--at the end of almost all Prs from all companies there is a “Forward Looking Statement Disclaimer.” It states, “any or all of these forward-looking statements may not occur.” Regardless of this disclaimer, if these statements are false or misleading the company can still be found liable if it can be proven that the company intended to deceive and mislead the investors. That’s where you have FRAUD.




B.) Secondly Gamood stated to me, “You claim to put your faith in the PRs of a pink sheet stock promoter with a questionable past.” We have to remember that any prior hesitancy people had towards HFBG and their past was because of the Caveat Emptor on Pink Sheets which has been officially removed as of June 17.. The fact that CE was removed suggests to me that if something was wrong w/ HFBG, Pink Sheets had the opportunity to discover it when they personally investigated HFBG. Apparently they felt secure enough with their investigation of HFBG to promptly remove the CE after putting it there to begin with. Also, the CE being removed suggests to me that HFBG is probably treading on thin water with Pink Sheets because of the investigation and as such they are probably going to be extra careful about putting any false or misleading Prs out the same day the CE is removed.



C.) Since you asked, I also wanted to explain all my other reasons I originally mentioned that I had for this stock being undervalued. I will post that tomorrow. Talk to you then my friends.

By the way, all of this is just my opinion. Just a post on a board. I am not a lawyer and am not giving out legal advice.

Hey Gamood,

Well I was hoping you would have a more technical analysis of your projection but I guess this will have to do. I'll answer back what I think of what ideas you mentioned in your response. Again this is just my opinion.

1. So my understanding of why this stock is undervalued....

Well, there are a ton of reasons I could give, alot of them justifying your scenario that you just preposed. However, the easiest and the clearest for investors at this very point in time... is the fact that HFBG's last PR on June 17th stated on a day the PPS sold between .0007-0011 that current prices were a reduced price of the stock and that HFBG would be buying out at a higher price. If we forget everything else beofore this point in time and let supply and demand take over right now, once we find out what that specific price is -- people are going to have demand for this stock and buy below that price until it reaches the price of the buyout.

2. As you stated "Could haves and should haves" "stock's PPS could have gone to at one point in time"

Your right, I mean in the past money was lost if schemes did happen as you hypothesized. However, I agree with your "could have and should haves' ideal. THe past is the past and now is now. I believe stocks are something you have to look in a view of here and now. You can't wish for things to be different from the past.You have to open your eyes and seize those opportunities that come your way right now at this very moment before they pass you by. So yea, money might have been lost in the past with this stock but that is NOT HERE AND NOW. We have had a decent week for people to buy and get in this stock at a pretty low price. Resistance is at .0007 at this point (Claytraders nice video analysis). With a buyout PR clearly stating this stock is undervalued, there is no where this stock could go but up.

3. About the toilet flushing thing. Um.. there is chance us investors take with every stock, especially these pinkies. I don't think your flushing your money down the drain any more with this stock then any other pinky. And at least if you open your eyes and put the factors about this stock presented to you together it tends to suggest there is no where this stock could go but up. You either take that opportunity or you let it pass you by. Its every investors choice.

Thanks Dryasmin for your help. I really think you are onto something!

Hey Gamood,

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post,but didn't you just say in this post that V-Group and HFBG's grand scheme has caused HFBG's PPS to go below .0009?

And I see no problem with your scenario in the post being a possible hypothesis. It might lack a little evidential support but it doesn't seem to fall short of giving some good reasons why HFBG's price has fallen so far down, why this stock is currently undervalued and why at this very point in time, there is no place for this stock's price to go but up. Especially since HFBG's been selling between .0007-.001 all last week and hasn't sold below .0007 in a very long time. Actually the lowest HFBG has gone since the .0035 run is down to .0006.


You have also stated in this post that the PPS being forced down to below .0009 has been bad for investors?

I guess I'm kind of confused here because at the point in time, this seems like a really good time for investors to start buying this stock between the range of .0007-.001. Especially since there is going to be a buyout and as you have so nicely stated the stock is clearly at a low price and undervalued. Therefore,this stock is going to skyrocket to what the market price should be as if this HFBG / V-Group Scheme had never happened. Or at the very least sky rocket to what V-Group is willing to pay for the shares in the buyout which is definitely above .001 (or the current price) as the last PR stated. You know... the whole supply/demand thing.

And V-Group's price might be peanuts compared to how high this stock's PPS could have gone to at one point in time, however, for most of the investors in this stock this will be a deal worth quite a decent amount of money.

Have I missed something because that is what I got out of your post.


Thanks for your help.

Spera18@aol.com

Well, the dip shouldn't last for long. I think this is good news and a really good first product to release.

With over 100 million ipods sold and 10s of millions in use there is definitely alot of demand for this product. Having this link to ipods will really give this product good leverage for being very sucessful.

Also the more people that buy this product, the more Kynery will get its name out there. Right now I personally don't know of any solar energy companies off hand but a simple reasonable very useful product like this is exactly what Kenergy needs to becomes The Solar Energy company. So when people are looking for solar energy productsin the future, people will look for Kenergy first.

I think that since the product is only $17.50, many more people will be likely to go green shall we say and buy a solar product. Most of the time people avoid using solar products because they are too expensive. The more solar products that could be put on the market that are cheap, the more people will look for more solar products in the future.

Also, another key factor, is people on the board were talking about licensing agreements. It usually really expensive to put a ton of money out there for advertising to get the product and the company name out there and known to people. BUT with this type of simpler/ cheaper product Ken could do a ton of licensing agreements with other companies. These other companies will make the product and put it out there, and do a ton of advertising for Ken. This is key to not only getting Kenergy's name out there but also having more distribution for Kenergy in the future, when it comes to producing more difficult products.

That is just my take on this product. I think its a really good call by Ken and a really first good product to release.

Hey Guys,

I agree with everyone that SSWC is one nice IHUB board. So I've been in this stock since a month ago. Had to wait one long month with no movement for this awesome run to come about. It has been one exciting week. Don't seem to post that much but I have been keeping up with all the other posts.

One thing I wanted to add... This is a very basic idea and you probably already know this but just incase.

One thing I saw posted on the board was the question what makes Ken's products so special that it will stand out and really increase this stock compared to other stocks/ products? Developing a new product and obtaining a patent for a product are two very different things.

If there is just a product being released with no patent, then other competitors can jump in the market and build comparative products just like the one that was just released. As competition goes up, price will go down until eventually price equals demand and supply. In such a scenario each competitor is only taking a percentage of the market demand for the product and sharing the market with other competitors. In such a scenario competitors fall to the waste side.

However, when you have obtained a patent you basically have a monopoly on the product. As such, the price should increase way above where supply equals demand on that product based on what people are willing to pay for the product. This basically happens because no other competitors are allowed to build the product for a certain amount of time. So there is no competition in the market whatsoever!!! And anyone that does want to build the product will have to enter into an agreement with the patent owner and will have to pay the patent owner in some way shape or form for those rights. No competition= successful product

This is why patents are key factor to having a successful product and business. It takes a long time to obtain patents (like years), it is a difficult process to go through with the US government, and the fact that Glynn has so many at the start of this company is awesome. So as long as there is some kind of demand for these products that Ken has obtained patents for, we got a GOLD mine sitting in front of us!!!! And usually the US government won't even grant a patent unless there is some kind of demand for the product.

Here is a link to the US patent process. http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/index.jsp Its pretty extensive.

Also another cool thing about patents are that there is a lot of time consuming work done to obtain the patent. But once all that work is done and the patent is granted, you could be sure there is a useful new product there that will actually work.

I mean GOIG is based on one patent and the stock has gone all the way up to .06. Having one patent is huge, but Ken has hundreds granted and about 23 pending which is amazing!

And my take on Ken's patents is that alot of them seem very functional, for everyday use, and that suggest to me that there will be a decent amount of demand for them.

Just something that I think is the key to this stock standing out and being different, and the price skyrocketing.

Hey HSA or anybody who has any info. By the way, nice board!

I have a question about SWRF and I was wondering if anyone had any info on it. I am assuming its a scam but I really wanted to confirm that because the patterns are just too nice.

In the last month its gone down to .25 and back up to a $1.00 3 times. But the bid and ask are drastically spread. Right now they are at .25 and .60. I want to just wait until it goes down to .25 again and purchase it but I don't want to get my money stuck in the stock and not be able to get it out without taking a huge loss.

There is also good news that has come out recently. This stock hasn't been picked on any stock pick boards anywhere and the SWRF ihub board is very close to vacant.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Does anyone know how this stock works?
I'm just asking if you would have difficulty selling once you buy? The spread seems awfully big between the ask and the bid. Does that ever change?

I guess I'm just really confused how this stock works. Its seems to have gone up and down 3 times in the last month between .25 and a $1.00 and yet has no volume. How is that? Are there actual buys at 25 cents?

It seems to have good news too, and yet people don't post anything on the board.

Any new info on this stock would be very helpful. THANKS!

keith the incarnations of this company are irrelevant. What's relevant is what state this company is in here and now!

SSWC is launching a new product as of July and on the verge of a reverse merger. That is what is relevant!

There is nothing going to stop this stock, even bashers. This stock is going through the roof.

Just so you know Keith, Kenergy and Glynn have over 20 patents for solar energy pending.

Also, Glynn has is a pretty inventive guy has a history of obtaining a ton of patents in the pasts. Glynn didn't just jump into this solar energy industry, he been working on these ideas for years!

That history alone, make this not "another energy company".

And no matter what, even without all that, SSWC was a nothing company with debt selling a .0002. As of now, SSWC has product launch happening in July. That alone is going to shoot this stock through the roof in price.

Hey Captain,

I really like your post. I feel like you are on to something. One thing I have really noticed from the beginning ( well from the start of buy out news) is why would a person/ or people who own a stock knowingly put themselves in the position they put themselves in just before HM3 and the new product came to fruition? Its really hard for me to believe that they didn't know the results to come for their stock and its price from the actions that they took. Especially since THRR had just come out as being a scam the same day buyout news was released for IHSN.

I really don't think this is a scam. There is just too much solid DD and big names behind the company. Also, if it was a scam the actions they already have taken would have been enough to either uncover the scam or have charges pressed against them. They wouldn't have made it though the buyout if it was a scam.

But at the same time I'm in agreement with you. I feel like there is some premeditated reason they have for their "legal manipulation" as you put it to bring the stock down to such a low price.

And like you said, as soon as the stock was about to crash they come out with this amazing PR to just get the stock back to normal levels again. It seems like they have the ammunition when they need it. But until they really need it, they tend to be quiet about everything.

Its just like there is alot of mystery with this stock. They have this huge company like HM3 and not much is known of how they acquired it or what their deal is with them. I feel like that is how everything is with this company. I feel like they have a big scheme (not scam) going on to make themselves successful as a company but they only let us know what is absolutely necessary at the time.

This is one stock I want to keep some extra cash in just in case it has a huge run because like you said, it definitely has the potential and it could happen at any time.

Hey Guys,

This post might not be very different from other posts you have read on this forum but this is my opinion on GOIG right now. I know everyone is a little frustrated the way GOIG has dropped the last couple of days but honestly I don’t believe this is the end of the world for GOIG. I still believe Long its going to be strong. Like all stocks and new ideas people just have to be patient and let it reorganize itself. Also, don’t forget just because a stock goes down that doesn’t necessarily mean the company is going down. The way I see it ideas like this don’t come along everyday. I think everyone who has been on this stock board knows that or you wouldn’t still be here.

This is what we know and this is why I’m willing to tolerate a drop like this. Goig has been going a long time without money and when you first start up something costs are high and there is not as much revenue coming in. We have had 0 revenue coming in up to this month and who knows how many companies were able to get the month of June free as part of a promotion. When GOIG does catch on, this stock will soar through the roof. But to get to that point it is a very expensive endeavor. Between the advertising campaigns, giving promotions to get big companies signed on and I believe the most expensive and difficult part is figuring out the best way to implement this new technology for all these companies and make it work nationally. You know, someone just marked someone’s post named Macblast. I would follow all Macblast’s GoiG posts that really get into how intricate this technology gets when implementing it for big companies. There are just a lot of things that have to be figured out. Macblast seems to be a rep for a big retail/ industrial company like Walmart or Homedepot that has signed up w/ GOIG. I find all the post very interesting and worth taking a glance at so you could get a better understanding of how implementation is actually going.

This doesn’t make me an expert on anything but I will say that I use to work for this company where I wrote economic research reports and one of our reports that we worked years on was on retail trade and implementing scanners and bar codes and how this effected labor productivity. (I know the technologies are different) But there are just some things that stay the same when implementing a new technology.
The high initial costs, like for example to get all bar codes on everything in a store, to get all the bar codes into the computer and to pay for all the scanners and other machinery. Extremely high upfront costs that no one would want to take a gamble on unless they knew for a fact bar codes and scanners would catch on for everyone. The end of the story is bar codes and scanners did catch on and made a HUGE impact. You know I assure you even today people are finding new advances and uses for bar codes and scanners that have been around for decades. Also, everything around the store had to be reorganized and adjusted to improve how the technology worked. For example, the wholesale and retail stores and the supply chain of how they worked together to get final goods to the stores that sell goods to consumers completely changed and reorganized itself to adjust to the technology and become more productive. Due substantially to bar codes and scanners our labor productivity soured over 30 years as a country . Bar codes and scanners definitely didn’t happen over night!

How I find bar codes and scanners like GOIG? Well first off, when initially implementing the technology , people weren’t aware of all the uses. Just by reading Macblast post you’ll see all these new technologies that are coming about because of GO800. Also, there is this huge block upfront that might stall GOIG a little. Companies have to be willing to pay fees for advertising months before they will actually make their money back for using the technology and before they know for sure that this technology will take off. Also, there is a lot of reorganization that has to take place for this technology to work efficiently and successfully for these big companies. Macblast post were kind of insightful on that as well. Lastly, the word needs to get out nationally and this is the only way the technology will be successful. This alone is big upfront task to take on. GO800 definitely won’t happen over night either!

Now I’m not saying that GOIG is going to be stalled forever. I really do think this technology is going to change how everyone interacts. But I am saying give GOIG a break. I mean bringing this technology to life with no money is a huge endeavor and just because there is one more non revenue month, does not mean that GOIG is plummeting off a cliff. Just be patient and your investments will prosper.

Again this is just my opinion on this stock.

thanks Hayden. Appreciated Greatly!

Hi doberman,

I like your dream. I really hope it comes true for all our sakes! Also, thanks for your PM the other day, I don't have a paid account so can't PM back. That goes for everyone who PMed me.

Carnac and you guys are really funny! Canac, thanks alot, any donations are welcomed.

Hey Mr. Goldbandit,

You know its funny, because if the stupid games people pull on this board or any stock board for that matter can make a difference, why can't a share count make a difference? The truth is everything everyone says and posts has a cumulative effect on this board , the people who are reading the board, and the price of the stock.

I have yet to see a stock (including this stock) that has not been effected and has suffered in price by bashers hanging on a board. And even though these bashers do not have any reason, logic, or substance to their arguments they still manage to get people to sell their shares and lower the price of the stock. For those who have been here the last couple of weeks, one of our favorites, does everyone remember Private Gun Owner?

After all his bashing for days, he actually had the nerve to admit he was bashing the stock so he could get his "bottom basement price" which he did eventually obtain.

Listen, I admit, maybe the price isn't going to go to .10 over a share count. But I certainly applaud the people who have spent the time to acquire such. And the way I feel, whether the people hold their shares or not, or are lying about the number of shares, at least we have some kind of idea that we did not have before.

The way I see things the more information we get the better. Every little detail is a help and puts more security and clarity in the stock. And yes you have to take everything for what its worth and find all the flaws with every piece of information given. And actually I thank you, Mr. Goldbandit, for pointing out those flaws for the board for this information. But that doesn't mean you should stop seeking information just because some flaws may be presented.

One of the biggest collapses (market failures) of a supply and demand market is misinformation or a lack of information. That is y it is really important everyone does their DD, everyone finds out as much information as possible, and everyone knows all the flaws with the information they have obtained. And market failure does not occur because of one person. Misinformation occurs as a cumulative affect. Misinformation by many people will cause market failure. You can argue that the share count itself is misinformation. I would argue that we all were in the dark completely with the share count on this board until Mr. Ace took the time to collect the data. And it has given us some idea that we did not have before and therefore I believe it does have some value.

That is just my opinion.

Hi Ace,

I have 24,096 Shares in Lock Down.

Thanks for creating these tallies.

Hey Oryz,

Like I said I don't have the exact drill hole measurements. So I would be super happy if someone were able to verify those with the company. If those were the measurements than your equation would be correct which would reduce how much gold was in the whole. But that is still only one of 3 veins/ drill holes that have to be calculated. And I don't think anything is sure until we verify with the company. As I said, all I could do was approximate by what I had. ( I didn't have your measurements) And I would say my approximation was the full potential of one of the three veins according to the website. The website does mention that normally the drill hole is cube shaped. On the other hand, the website also mentions that each drill whole is different. That's y the scientist r necessary.

But you bring up a good point of how important it is to get the correct measurements on all three veins if we want to calculate a reasonable approximation of how much gold is in the Queen Alexandra.

I say the most we could get out of my calculations so far (without verifying the dimensions of the whole)....

-There definitely is gold in the mine.
-And 18 feet deep for one of the veins presents the potential for a substantial amount of gold in the mine.

Hi Everyone,

I don't know if you remember but after the buyout failed and IHSN plummeted I urged everyone to buy buy buy at the lower prices to save your money that you had previously lost. There were some people on my side but alot of people who called me crazy.

Congratulations to all the Buyers and Holders. Go IHSN! This stock will be back to the .02-.03 in no time!

Hi Guys,

I have recently invested in this stock in the beginning of the week. This is the first mine/ natural resource type stock I have invested in. For the most part I usually try to avoid them because if anything happens to the price of the gold ( or whatever natural resource it is) that could affect the company and the price tremendously. This time around I couldn’t resist, because the graphs look great for this stock and gold has increased tremendously in value. However, I still have some questions for the board bc I’m not that familiar with gold mining. If anybody could fill in any blanks here or provide better estimates or at the very least more about the dimensions of the mine that would be very helpful.

So what I understand so far: from reading the boards and the PR ( a little summary). If anything is inaccurate please correct me.

1.) The Queen Alexandra mine is located just outside of Dryden in northern Ontario, Canada. The Queen Alexandra mine consists of one shaft and one exploration pit, 65 metres apart, and seven trenches.

2.) Price of gold has gone up tremendously since 2009. In October 2009 gold was below $750 per ounce. Today gold is $1,212.37 USD per ounce. Gold is projected to go up tremendously in the next 6 months. This will have a huge impact on this stock.

3.) In the 1900s in the Queen Alexandra an English mining syndicate sunk a shaft 85 feet, and milled 18 tons of ore, producing 16.6 ounces of gold out of vein #2. (Carter 1905; Thomson 1933). This definitely proves there is gold there.

4.) Ontario Geological Society Assessment Office (OGS) made recommendations that :
a.) the Queen Alexandra Mine and its location are within areas that would be favorable to placement of gold.
b.) the Queen Alexandra has a history of gold showings, and has produced gold in
the past.
c.) Kenora district of Ontario (where the Queen Alexandra is located) is favorable for discovery
of gold bc the area “hosts gold mineralization”
d.) the report on this at http://www.geologyontario.mndm.gov.on.ca on the CNEX website too

5.) CNEX agrees with OGS recommendations and adds “the best place to explore for gold is where it has already been found.” as birdman has stated in one of his recent posts.

6.) Since gold was extracted from this mine (the Queen Alexandra) before, there has to be still gold in it.

7.) CNEX has already done tests on the mine to measure how much gold is in the Queen Alexandra. The original test results that CNEX found on the gold were…. Sample results varied and included values that returned 1.34 Au g/t (#709256), 4.66 Au g/t (#709255) and 14.47 Au g/t (#709258).These results confirm that there is gold on the property.

8.) To further understand what these number mean, it is important to understand the dimensions of the veins to be able to calculate a rough estimate of how much more gold there is in the mine beyond the original 16.6 ounces of gold that was mined earlier in the 1900s. So far we know that 85 feet were dug to obtain 16 ounces of gold and from that we could make an rough rough approximation. The better scenario would be to get all the accurate dimension of the veins in the mine and make calculations from there.

PLEASE SEE BELOW FOR ROUGH ESTIMATE

9.) At the time in which the gold was extracted the first time around, the older technology was only able to extract that gold that was visible. Now, in this day in age, technology has improved to the point at which gold that is not visible can be extracted from mines. The ultimate conclusion being that there has to be gold in this mine.

10.) Since gold has gone up in value, this has enabled Cnex and other companies to spend more money, and use higher cost technologies to obtain the gold because with the higher gold prices, their revenues will still exceed higher costs.

11.) The latest PR has stated that at this point in time “the company’s newly hired geologist” will be going to the mine to take measurements of the gold to validate the original test results.

12.) Once results are verified by the company’s new geologist, a report will be submitted to the OGS so CNEX and the property will be given credit so CNEX can continue exploration and development of the mine.

13.) When results are verified CNEX will announce the results.

14.) Once results are verified, planned for August CNEX will be able to start its new projects on the mine.

15.) Unlike, inaccurate reports that people have been putting out in the last couple of days, CNEX has not halted work on the Queen Alexandra and the crew commenced work on the Queen Alexandra on May 25.


INTERPRETING INITIAL RESULTS FURTHER

So I found this website --Interpreting Drill Results 101 --might be good for all of you to read because it is exactly for someone who wants to invest in a gold stock. (http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1242751631.php)

So I used the equations from this website to find out exactly what kind of approximations of gold we could come up with from this site. Now please read this site to get all the short comings of these approximations. There are a ton of short comings and this is the most rough estimate ever given with all these shortcomings. There are just certain things about the drilling holes that will have to be determined by geologist and we should be looking for in the full report when it comes out. Also the website clearly states that you should probably confirm results with someone from the company because they would understand better what exactly the results they put out mean. Also, I do not have specific dimensions of any of the veins of the mine. Find out some from the company and I will gladly make the calculations.

So I am assuming the results that were presented were for three separate veins/ locations. Also I don’t know which number goes with which dimensions so until more information is given I can’t figure out good estimations. Given my lower knowledge of gold mining maybe one of you would know this better. Anyway there are three numbers CNEX provided us.
#709256: 1.34 Au gram per ton
#709255: 4.66 Au gram per ton
#709258: 14.47 Au gram per ton

This is what I will say. For my approximation I am going to use 14.7 gold per ton (given to us by CNEX) and use the dimension of 85 ft that was already dug in the mine . With that , the dimensions of that vein are 85 ft in length and 85 feet in width by 85 feet in height. If you don’t get any of these calculations refer to the website. (http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1242751631.php)

85 feet (length) X 85 feet (width) X 85 (height)== 614125 cubic feet of materialized material

Assume 10 cubic feet per ton for weight (as website did) So 614125 / 10== 61412.5 tons


31.1 gram== 1 troy ounce
14.47 (AU grams per ton) ==.465 ounces
.465 ounces X 61412.5 tons= 28,573.59 ounces of gold TOTAL
Now if we plug in the price of gold per ounce--- $1,212.37 USD X 28,573.59 ounces ==$34,641,772.12


Things to consider with my projection.

-I did not account for the 16 ounces of gold that were already pulled from the mine.
-I just calculated one vein. There might be three or more veins/ locations and we don’t know exact dimension of any vein so this could be over projected for all I know.
-I am not sure what the exact dimensions are of each vein. I used the dimensions of the largest vein that was mentioned on the website. And I also used the largest amount of gold per ton that was given as a measurement by the company. Therefore, without confirming the dimensions this definitely goes beyond rough estimate. Once we have the exact measurements of these three veins we could make reasonable rough estimates that could really make this stock fly.
-Remember price of gold are projected to go up from today’s price. So this will increase whatever the final value is.
-Also, I used calculations that were on a website. (http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1242751631.php). I don’t know how accurate this website is. I do know that he proved his projections predicting how much a stock would go up according to this interpretation. That to me was enough to make it a good enough estimate for this stock.
-Unlike the website, I was not able to calculate the true width because I did not have that info. Usually the true width is a smaller percentage of the size of the whole.
-Also, I am not a geologist, and that website clearly states that it is a rough estimate and there are aspects of the actual mine and vein that could change the estimate completely.
-Also, CNEX has to get the numbers validated by a geologist so the numbers might change even after we confirm dimensions of each vein with CNEX.
-Also, there are other natural resources in the mine, that are not taken into consideration in the projection. I believe one PR said something about diamonds.


All I’m saying is this is a good start. But if we really want to figure out all this information we could get to a good approximation of how much this mine is really worth. Also, from the DD I did here I think this stock is really something.

Let me know what everybody thinks.

Okay so I think the difference between both lows has to do with the split. The split was on November 25, 2009. And it was 1:1000 shares.

So Etrade (your number) of .0030 which ocurred in November 11 is the 52week low when you don't adjust the numbers for the split that ocurred.

So Daily Finance has all the prices before the split adjusted for the split. So before the split DF doesn't have the actual prices but has adjusted prices. So instead of .003 on November 11 (which is the actual price at that point in time) the price is adjusted to $3.00 as if the split had already ocurred. If that makes any sense.

I tend to go with the adjusted price for the actual low of .0071 because you can't really compare prices before a split and after a split if they are not adjusted for the split because those prices wouldn't take into consideration the difference in shares. I could go in more depth about this if you want but that is just my interpretation.

OK so I just went to Etrade and they have your number. Let me see if I could figure this out.

Also, wasn't November 2009 before the split? Before the split wasn't IHSN above .30? I could be mistaken, just asking?

Daily Finance and thehotpennystocks has the 52 week low as .0071.

I mistyped .0077 instead of .0071 but that is what I meant and that was still on Friday according to those two sites. Where did you get your number? Could they both be incorrect?

Hey Everyone,

I know everyone is still kind of bumming right now due to the termination of the buyout but I think this is a perfect time to get your money back. This stock is at a super low price now. IHSN reached the 52 week low on Friday of .0077. This stock is certainly not worth this price and will be bouncing right back. With all the DD you guys did, you got to believe that. With Tim Harrington, HM3-- his company aboard, and them launching some new products in the near future this has to go up. Before any news of the buyout this stock was consistantly between .02-.03. I invested in this stock too and am just waiting for it to bounce back. Right now I'm just holding. But I just put another order in to buy more shares so I could make some money off this. Originally, my first order I bought at .038 and if I buy more at these low prices I'll be able to make sure I could sell at .02-.03 and still not lose anything.

I know after hours isn't that consistant with regular hours but at the very least its an indicator of whether the stock is going to go any further down or is going to start going back up. In after hours the stock went to .016. If you buy at .008 and sell for .016, you'll be able to double your money. If you wait a little longer, IHSN will probably go back up between .02-.03 very shortly.

Also, I would say, this stock seems to be very different then THRR. After the termination of the buyout with THRR, THRR just plummeted to about .0002 and has held steady at that price since. That was because THRR did not have a product, definitely was a scam, and probably posted news about the buyout to save itself from colapsing earlier. IHSN definitely has a product, did not really increase that drastically from the buyout news and for the most part IHSN stayed steady the entire time people were waiting to hear news about the results of the buyout. It didn't drop off til Friday when news of termination of the buyout came. And for the most part that was just people selling in fear of losing all their money.

Right now, we are the people that have the power to get this stock go up to normal prices agaim. I think these low numbers are a huge opportunity for everyone.

Hey Sweet,

Have you seen all the previous posts? Going back 3 or 4 weeks, including the sticky? I pasted the sticky below again. Also some posters have talked to Kevin Glynn themselves. There is just alot more to it then just "some blog guy."

So the people that were posting found out some pretty interesting DD. And Kevin Glynn told one of the posters that Kenergy Dev. Guys were buying up the float of SSWC a couple of weeks ago, after SSWC's last surge.

Just to summarize the info thats been brought to our attention by other posters.

1. SSWC, and IVOI and Kenergy Dev. are all located in NJ.
2. Kevin Glynn is the new CEO of SSWC and the CEO of Kenergy.
3. In 2009, Kenergy Devel. posted in the newspaper that Kenergy was planning to go public "through a shell company"
4. In that same post it states that there would be two rounds of raising money. The First would take a month and the Second would take 8-10 months. Since the post was in February 2009 that takes us to February 2010.
5. As far as I know, Kenergy hasn't been taken public through any shell company to date. So that leaves us just waiting for Kenergy to use one of these penny stocks now.
6. Then you have blogger guy giving the history of SSWC and its brother and sisters companies -- doing the whole reverse merger
7. And you have Kevin Glynn very recently telling some shareholders that some Kenergy guys had contacted him and were buying up the float of SSWC.

I just don't see having a Better Scenario on the Table for Investors.

Check this sticky post below!

I believe that Kenn Glynn(Founder of Kenergy Development Corp), being the supposed new owner of SSWC(Verified by Toucan[From InvestorsHub] who has a friend who called the Previous CEO of SSWC), has had experience with IVOI, is indeed going to lead a reverse merger, and is located in New Jersey.

Yes... NJ(The same state as IVOI)
IVOI and SSWC are located in Matawan, NJ.
Ideal Ideas, Inc.(Kenn Glynn's old company, that did business with IVOI in 2004[http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2004_April_1/ai_114816495/]) was located in Flemington, NJ.[http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=9531533]
It is not a fact that Kenergy Development Corp must be NJ because the CEO is located in New Jersey, but the chances are high. Also there is proof in the article coming up that it actually is located in New Jersey. Also, if you look on Linkedln and look upKevin Glynn, you'll see that Kenergy is in the metropolitan area ( New Jersey and NYC).


Now this is going to make you explode out of happiness.

N.J. Startup Venture Seeks Capital(Published in February of 2009)

Full Text Link
http://img580.imageshack.us/i/rawrawrawrawrrawwrwra.jpg/

First thing of note was what the company intends to do:

"The Flemington, NJ-based company became incorporated at the beginning of last month and has 20 patents pending to develop solar technlogies, which it plans to deploy down the line. He has designed a solar tracker for power generation, which works like a giant seesaw to capture sun and shade."

The next REALLY big thing that struck me was:

"Funds from the second round will be used to take Kenergy public through a shell company, he says, declining to disclose how much he hopes to raise in the initial public offering on the Over the Counter Bulletin Board or who will underwrite it. "That depends on the markets," he says."

Key Notes of the Article
N.J. Startup Venture Seeks Capital(Article Published in February 9, 2009.)
-Kenergy Devlopment Corp.,a Solar Technology Developer, is owned by Kenneth P. Glynn located in Flemington, New Jersey
-Has 20 Patents to develop solar technologies which it plans to deploy in the future
-One of which "He has designed a solar tracker for power generation, which works like a giant seesaw to capture sun and shade."
-Kenergy is hoping to "raise $6-10 million to get the company off the ground eventually to an initial public offering."
-Funds from the first round will be used for fundraising for development and administrative purposes.($360,000)
-"It hopes to close the round in a month, then raise the balance in eight to 10 months."(Remember this is back in early 2009)
-Funds from the second round of fundraising will be used to "Take Kenergy public through a shell company."
-Ken Glynn declined to, "Disclose how much he hopes to raise in the initial public offering on the Over the Counter Bulletin Board or who will underwrite it. "That depends on the markets," he says."
NOTE this was back in February 9, 2009 to prove how much time Kenneth P. Glynn had to get these funds.

I will post link of article later...

I did not take any of this DD from anyone except for the fact that Toucan found out Kenn Glynn was the new CEO/Owner of SWCC... other than that, this is all my info...