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KERPLUNK! someone flush the toilet please!
More shareholder money down the drain.
ATWT YEAH, false rumors that YOU are starting
So sad.
Deja Vu all over again
Now there is ANOTHER poster who claims to have called the company. He says he has received information that ANOTHER fantastic PR will be released very soon that will raise the PPS.
Posting those kinds of things will only tank the stock further, if it has any effect at all.
The damage has already been done.
Another example:
Look at CFRI. A company that is about to release final testing results within a few weeks on a new shipping container that will be sold Worldwide to the entire Shipping Industry. A massive market, and their product will be superior to anything else out there. BUT....
CFRI was the victim of a Pump 'n Dump scam awhile ago. Massive emails were sent out everywhere. In a matter of days, this pennystock was trading in the Dollars! Then BAM! the Pumpers sold, leaving everyone who had been interested in this stock to sell at a loss. It went back down to the pennies, and now has almost zero volume.
The fact that CFRI is a genuine company with an excellent product about to be released, with pre-orders makes no difference now. The Market has lost complete confidence in the company. Everyone that had previously shown interest is now pissed off. The only thing that matters now is absolute proof of higher profits from the container sales. I bought the stock near the bottom because I believe in the company, even if the rest of the Market doesn't yet. But the damage was done. even though CFRI shoud be trading much higher right now, it won't until they prove themselves.
I think the same thing has now happened to ATWT, although not as severe. But some damage has been done. It will continue down until the Market values it to it's present potential or lower. Why lower? Because extra risk is now attached to ATWT because of the misinformation that caused the Pump 'n Dump.
After all, we ARE talking about microcaps.
IMHO
Not sure I understand your post very well
I have only been following this stock and reading posts on this Board for a short time.
A person that has contributed so much DD to a message board, and has gained the respect of other posters, has a tremendous resposibility to always tell the truth. No one earns the "right" to lie.
On the contrary. If a person enjoys the praise of others to whom he has been entrusted to, he should be held to a much higher standard than the rest of the posters.
If he violates this "trust" that has been so carefully earned, he should be chastised to a greater extent. It's like a dirty cop, or a judge that takes a bribe.
When a known conman tells a lie, very few people are damaged as a result. When a highly trusted and respected individual tells a lie, it can cause permanant damage to many many people, the message board, and even the company itself.
I just can't dismiss such actions, especially when the individual has no repentance for their actions, and instead, insists that OTHERS just "Get Over It" or "Let It Go". As if the victims are the ones in the wrong, for even questioning that individual's selfish conduct in the first place. And to add insult to injury, the same individual tries to cover up any mention of his violations, by attacking the very posters to whom he victimized, and even personally deletes their posts.
I'm not sure what that means, but I think your humor is anything but DRY.
Me thinks you've been well saturated all night.
I'm sure it was a fine vintage wine enjoyed with a late night supper. LOL!
I suppose I could have just simply said:
Please respect EVERY poster, and just tell the Truth, the Whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth.
Hows that?
99% of posters/readers won't call a company
You can accuse them of being lazy, inexperienced, or just plain morons.
But most people are confident that they can determine the truth, from others who CLAIM to have had direct contact with the company. Most people will think to themselves "Yeah, that sounds right".
Even if the self-appointed representitives who post their conversations with the company, are relating the conversation to the best of their abilities, they will be biased. It's human nature. If you add to that a little promotional salesmanship into the mix, then you have the ingredients for misinformation. Not to mention the fact that it's in their own best interest to accentuate the positive, or even just plain lie.
Like a recent investigative poster just posted today "My only interest is getting that PPS up as much as possible" (post# 14246). I'm not trying to pick on the guy. On the contrary. It's refreshing to see someone so honest about their motives. But it does illustrate my point.
These Boards are supposed to be for the discussion of all the factors that may affect a particular investment, Pro and Con. Instead, some here believe these Boards are for the sole purpose of promoting the company to potential shareholders. In other words, to get people to Buy.
These "stock salesmen" will do their best to hide anything negative by attacking those that express concerns, instead of discussing the issues that are raised. They act like common childish bullies, and enlist others to gang up on the questioning poster until he gives up and cries uncle, or leaves.
Unfortunatly, when any seasoned Investor/Trader sees this kind of activity taking place on a message board, they immediatly know that anything discussed is not trustworthy. People are not stupid. They know what's going on.
The attempt to attract more buyers of a stock, by controlling and manipulating a message board to only reflect the positives is foolish, and turns sensible Investors/Traders away.
In short, The "Buy and praise the company, or GET LOST" attitude, does more harm than good. You can't "Bully" people into accepting your point of view. Neither can you "Bully people into buying the stock. This should be a true discussion board, not an obediant religious "Cult".
Allow free speach. People will show themselves to be a genius, a moron, or something in between. Just because YOU don't like what someone has said, doesn't mean someone else can't benefit from their post. Sometimes others can see, or express something in a way that has never been considered before.
Those with the most wisdom, are those who can listen to others.
P.S damn!.... that was long post! sorry.
Like, Dude... Man... That chart is SWEEEEEET!
Nice and Smooth. Not like that choppy volatile stuff we usually see with the microcaps.
Should be more predictable than most others.
I'll take a closer look.
Thanks!
Now THAT'S just plain Funny!
LOL!!!!!!
You're right, I forgot, must've been panic selling/profit-taking
I usually don't trade that many penny stocks. This is one of those exceptions. Much different situation here than the regular priced stuff.
Where do you think we go from here?
WOW, that was a scary Dip, but...
It held support, and buyers stepped in quickly.
I guess the MM's saw some Stop Loss Orders, and decided to grab some cheap shares. I hope they didn't steal YOUR shares.
This Rally is still alive for now (60 minute 4wk Chart).
Warned you to get out in high .005's
I told you it was a "Suckers Rally/Fools Rally" on low Buying Volume.
But you enjoyed attacking me, and deleting my posts instead.
If you are still holding shares right now, it would be foolish to sell at this point. Best to ride it out and/or buy more shares if you can afford to. If you still firmly believe in ATWT.
Better yet, wait for a Confirmrd Bottom with a Selling Climax and/or an Upward Reversal on STRONG Buying Volume before adding, or buying back in.
IMHO (in my hated opinion)
Support at .0038 breached, back down to .003area
The support there wasn't very strong to begin with.
The redundant insurance fluff PR dashed all hopes of something substantial being released soon.
Back down to "Dead Money" at the .003 area.
It's also possible it will retest the Bottom (.0015).
Sorry folks, but that's just the way it looks to me, and appearantly the Market, right now.
I would much rather see something substantial released by the company, so shares could be bought into strength and held for a long Run.
The phony PR Pump 'n Dump stuff only works once.
Good Luck to those who deserve it!
STTC just look, nuf said (eom)
STTC just look, nuf said (eom)
Cheapest shares seem to be disappearing now
I think people are buying/accumulating to Hold.
This should reduce the available shares, and drive the price up at a nice measured pace.
Of course, a Spike Up would be OK by me!
Maybe here it comes!
A PR release sure wouldn't hurt.
These microcaps seem to live and die on PR reports.
I don't know if we should expect one, but with all the new progress, you would think an update on something/anything would be very likely to happen soon.
Final warning, your posts sent to SEC
Laugh if you want.
I have already sent them everything that is relevent to your most recent Pump 'n Dump scam. IMHO
They emailed me back the standard form letter thanking me for my participation, and said they would review the materials.
Sleep well!
There you go again. More LIES!
You said there would be another PR after the Insurance PR.
You said it would change the way everybody would think about ATWT.
As YOU and your privatly messaged Pumpers kept Pumping, all the while you were selling into the Rally.
YOU LIED!
Now you're trying to do it again!
Do you really think everybody in the entire MARKET is that stupid?
I guess you do.
The Truth is:
ATWT Chart looks terrible.
ATWT is in a DOWNTREND.
ATWT keeps breaking Support Levels.
The phony PR that YOU said would change the way everyone would look at ATWT was a LIE! You knew it, and you sold at the TOP, while still telling others to BUY.
By the way, Distributors are NOT the same as SALES.
You have ignored the competition which is gobbling up much of the Marketshare.
Etc., etc., etc.
You just keep deleting any posts that raise concerns about ATWT. That is totally irresponsible at the very least.
Why do you keep deleting my posts, and other's posts that disagree with YOU and your merry band of Pumpers.
WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?
Answer: The TRUTH!
YOU Pumped 'n Dumped this stock before, and are setting things up to do it again.
You WILL be caught!
ATWT is in a HUGE Downtrend
The Market has decided that ATWT is not worth what the Pumpers are saying it's worth.
The Pumpers keep posting their lies and VLF keeps deleteing those posts that might reveal the truth....BUT,
The MARKET ALONE gets the final word on the true value of ATWT.
Last Tuesday.
LOL!
Tomorrow tomorrow I luv ya tomorrow... you're only....
a DAAAAY AAAWAAAAAY........clap!clap!clap!clap!clap!
Sorry, I just couldn't help it! That tune was in my head from seeing some TV commercial recently. Now it's in YOUR head. LOL!
Anyhow, looking good for TOMORROW!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.........$
They are afraid of being caught in a Pump 'n Dump scam.
I've got news for them.
The right people ALREADY KNOW!
Well said, fatbacker, but they will attack you.
Either directly, by private messages, by deleting your posts, pulling old fragmented statements you make out of context, or just plain lies.
Maybe all of the above, like they have done to me and others. They think they're clever. Not really. Everything on this Message Board is archived and must be relinquished by court order, if/when demanded.
Unfortunatly, anybody who has Traded any length of time has seen this type of unethical behavior before.
Most Pump 'n Dump scams use Email Spamming to con their victims, because it's harder to trace the origination of the participants.
VLF and his private message cronies may have thought they found an easier way to Pump 'n Dump ATWT through misinformation on this message board. IMHO, that was a very big and arrogant mistake on their part.
People get angry when they feel they've been scammed, and many will Email the details to the SEC.
Crooks know that the SEC recieves so many complaints on penny stocks, that they figure they will never be caught. But the SEC likes to make examples of the scammers once in awhile. Sometimes months, or even years later when it's impossible for the crooks to cover their tracks, or even remember enough to lie their way out.
It's sad that companies which can appear to be so promising like ATWT, can be tainted in the Market by such unethical (at the very least) and/or criminal behavior (at worst).
Since Friday is usually a slow Trading day,
We really don't know for sure if this Pullback might have been more severe otherwise, or instead, if more Buyers would have stepped in to minimize this Pullback.
I guess it all depends on your point of view. Especially if you want to buy back in, like you already stated.
Monday should tell us a lot more about the NEWEST direction of STTC.
Keep in mind, you can't formulate a Pattern by only 2 Events. You need a minimum of 3.
Good Luck on your next Entry Point.
It's always good advice to study Charts carefully.
Both of the Moving Averages you mentioned are NOW pointing UP. Also as you say, a spectacular Run. Why?
Because the recent PR's have changed everything. Elimination of long term debt, Revenues Increased by over 38%, Strong Insider Buying (near current prices), New Contracts, and Excellent Future Guidance.
I don't think it's wise to look at a Chart and assign the same values to the PAST when you know everything has NOW changed. If you did, then a Downward Chart would mean a stock could only go down, an Upward Chart could only go up, and a Trading Range could only stay the same.
Not to minimize what you are saying, but using historical information works best when things have not changed, or have changed very little. Right NOW, it's better to look at the chart on a Shorter Term basis.
What can be learned from the Chart, considering the MARKETS REACTION to the most RECENT EVENTS?
Answer: UPWARD REVERSAL on STRONG BUYING VOLUME. Has pulled back to consolidation, is sitting at the 200 DMA, and a previously strong support level area (March- April).
Hope this helps.
Basher!
LOL
Suckers Rally/Fools Rally
Just a limited volume Bounce. Barrier at .006
Nothing has changed. Chart is still in a Downtrend right NOW.
Good chance for some to get out.
It's not a trick question. I'm not trying to provoke anyone.
I just honestly want to know. I'm still new to this Board (couple weeks). If it's been already been covered then I think it would be fairly easy to answer.
Are any of ATWT's competitive companies also Publically Traded? If so, which ones, and what is their stock symbols?
After all, this is a good Sector. It might be wise to understand, and maybe even invest in the competition in order to be fully diversified. Especially if the other companies are more respected by the Market.
Don't you think?
Thanks in advance.
Questions for the Board. Can you answer TRUTHFULLY?
"Thanx Alex, I'll take ATWT for 500"
"The first question izzzzzzz......."
1. Who (if any) are the competitors for any/all of ATWT's products?
2. Assuming there IS competitors. In what specific areas of the U.S. will ATWT have the most competition for sales/contracts?
hint: we already know ATWT products are sold through many distributors.
DING DING DING......"Timez UP!" "YOUR answer...PLEASE!?"
Pumper sez: "I don't think they have no compa tish un" "Duz they?"
I thought you guys hated Flippers of ATWT
I guess you only hate "Flippers" when YOU are not the ones in control of the "Flipping".
When YOU "Flip" ATWT it's called a great Trade.
When others "Flip" ATWT, they're just bad investors, because they won't hold Longer Term.
Those that post only optimistic posts are never to be called Pumpers and should always be aggreed with. But anyone who questions such posts must immediately be labeled a Basher and attacked, or better yet, delete their posts.
Those that claim to have talked directly to the company should be believed and respected because they have earned a certain amount of trust. However, these same people can never be held responsible for being respected, trusted, or believed.
If only this would have been explained to everyone, there would have been far less confusion.
Never the less, I think ATWT is a Good company. The only question NOW is whether the Market will believe it. I wonder how many in the Market will never return to this stock as a result of the misinformation posted on this Board the past few days?
I think ATWT continues back down to the .003 area or lower regardless of another PR. That is, unless it's that so-called "meaty" PR (numbers) some keep cryptically referring to. Hey, here's a provocative thought. What if the numbers just plain suck!?
I'll be watching and waiting with a little more wisdom and caution this time.
As always, Good Luck to those who deserve it.
Of course, you're welcome. Read CFRI's last PR
It "tells the tale".
Speaking of Sleepers look at CFRI
News expected this month on final testing/aproval of their new shipping container that will be sold Worldwide.
Cheaper, stronger, safer, more lightweight than anything else out there. They will be selling to the ENTIRE Shipping Market.
They already have many pre-orders.
With such low Volume, it's hard to accumulate shares. I hope I can get enough before the Big News hits.
STTC Yeah, looks like a good entry point
for a run on Friday or Monday.
The next PR will really make this thing fly!
You took that quote completely out of context. But of course you already know that.
His post was further confirmation on what I was already seeing on the Chart. In hindsight, I should have ignored his post. If I had, I would have waited a litle longer, and seen the Chart stregthen again into the close.
This is the END of my comments on another of your foolish attacks.
YOU, VLF, and others are the PUMPER 'n DUMPERS, not me.
I already answered that question.
1. Too many Pumpers made me suspicious.
2. I stuck to my own Trading Rules, and sold to protect profits when the chart seemed to be getting weak (less buying volume).
I made some profit, but missed out on the Big Run where a lot of people lost there azzes as they kept buying up higher and higher.
I've seen this type of Pump 'n Dump thing happen many times before (NAVR is one that comes to mind on the Yahoo MB). But NEVER with such blatent control of a Message Board. Deleting most anyone who would question the Pumpers claims.
Anyone who would not Pump, was immediatly attacked, or their posts deleted.
Oh well, it doesn't really matter that much to me. I didn't "Drink the Koolaid". It's just sad to see the newer traders get ripped off.
I tried to tell people. But most would not listen. Many of my posts were also quickly deleted. GEE......I wonder WHO deleted them?
Can ATWT hold support at .003? even .0015?
That's the real question at this point.
It's NOT about who can pump the best anymore. THAT party is over!
It's about who can figure out the REAL and TRUTHFUL direction and support levels of ATWT.
Did the Kiddie Alert System find VLF hiding in the back of a bus near the bank? LOL!