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Goes way back with old buddy DM which PHAR/CEO Howard worked very close with at start.
Notice the attorney contact for the scam of all scams. This one i dont think Bernie Madoff could pull off , but Piterra did.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/EVFN/company-info
Got a feeling OTC will be putting the warning in red for this scam onto PHAR OTC page, along with other warning.
GLTU
Thanks for info about surrounding areas. Went to Wilson plant just prior to PHAR moving. Nice area, much larger than i imagined.
Wilson did say PHAR would have had an opportunity for a $600,000 grant but failed to meet any of needed requirments.
GLTU
As of monday after a call back from Wilson EDA as we already new PHAR is not in the building. Seth Wooten padlocked the building. According to Economic Developers Mgr. Mr. Wooten has filed claims for large sum of money owed. It was left at that.
All open buildings avaliable for any business in a multiple county area goes through them, so as to be able to work with any company to grow the area.
As you mention many grants are used as incentives by them through Rural Developement Authority. According to what i was told since PHAR left there has been no activity about any available buildings that would be needed for FDA compliance or size that have come through them. As mentioned above, all available buildings go through Economic Developement Authority to put potiential clients in a location and then offer incentives.
Bridge was burned in 2009 with private disaster in nearby Rocky Mt.,, so its anybodies guess.
GLTU
Are you hearing any chatter of DM involvement still. Going to check incorporated status and see who is authoring it and keeping it current. If it is at all.
Good to hear from you.
GLTU
Wowza, i feel your pain. Every time i built shares up hoping for minor uptick a huge split would come and wipe out. PPS would tank back to pre split before you could blink an eye.
Got dividend shares on swrs,bmgi , all with same outcome.
Chances of hitting Mega Million are far better than this happening but wouldnt it be a miracle to unload as you say this toilet paper.
Anybody tried the contact person ,which is new Board member Chun K T. # given on newswire is wacked out number. 852-54491246.
Called an it says its disconnected.
I agree with FORBES magazine article about SEC being asleep at wheel on this guy DMc
Take care and GLTU
Didnt think i even mentioned investment.
Your half right, no voting shares. Your wrong on having no power or recourse. Have a long history with previous group.
Ive never been real good at being content with anyone telling me i have no power or recourse.Not about money regained.
With respect for your opinion, i ask the same for mine.
GLTU
Close @.001 up 43% even with SEC investigation issued that will ultimately have to include all activities @ PHARMSTAR.
Positive activity for PHAR and + 43% proves it
GLTU
No, i mentioned no ones name as a show of respect for anyone that could be involved.
That being said ,in a complete investigation, not just this issue, im sure there are some that can offer a wealth of knowledge of learned wrongdoing.
In the case of what your saying, i would go out on a limb and say this individual might be SECs most valuable asset.
GLTA
Wrong. When email correspodence with PHAR/HOWARDS response via email posted on board. Several instances HOWARD/CEO cell phone # was given so as to verify claims of direct conversation by a poster.
The ones i saved i think go way beyond the ones you speak of.
Thanks however for initiating what should have been done a long time ago.
GLTA
Man thats a can of worms that if opened ill bet it stinks to high heaven and no telling what crawls out of PHARMSTAR investigation.
Didnt have to be this way.
GLTU
As you have done in your posts, just posting facts you can never go wrong , you dont have to backtrack or make up things to justify.
As you and many smart investors and great DD people on this board ,and there are many,, all we asked for months ago is for CEO to come before investors and address them and confirm or deny problems that have been documented. Denial we know would be lies.
I for one never would expect to assume to hear all is well, no problems that cant be resolved in time, BECAUSE I EXPECT MANY TO SAY WITH RESPECT CEO, THATS A CROCK OF CRAP.
I would appreciate just the plain truth and status of PHAR. Lay it all on line as to why so much has been fabricated in past and present. JUST the truth
Then go from there. Cant get any worse. Regroup while PPS in down. Reward and rectify shareholders of record pre .01 with dividend so they can get in on re building action. It would take time to recover but if product is viable and marketable, think of the positive impact even WE on this board could have
Admitt to having a viable product but i dont have a damn clue how to MG and conduct business. I need to get someone that is and maybe give up a large percentage of Company.
So many possible scenerios, but complete failure if product is not viable and lies were from the start and now crap has all hit the fan. IM MOST AFRAID THATS THE CASE.
But if all this is just piss poor operation, dont blame shell, and come clean then inform investors ,and include investors in a complete overhaul.
As a show of confidence, go back to a certain date and award/dividend 6month restrictive shares from his titanic load . Could be SP pre penny purchases and then pro rate according to shares purchased. Those not shareholders now would loose out i would think. Dont know how that would work, would be great to work that in.
Just come forward,be a man of integrity, thats all we are asking.
GLTU 'waterchaser'
Did that to me as well first thing this am. Just wanted to get rule #s in warning to try with SEC to get more clarity on what constitutes a violation .
Take care.
Im using a verizon air card on laptop. Thats my excuse, whats yours my friend?
GLTU
Lot of chatter about emails and those that recieve THEM and are tightly connected to PHARMSTAR and CEO, and those that never get responses.
Since it is a topic of conversation today its interesting how OTC includes a warning to ANYONE passing and using knowledge coming from company/mgt that has not been issued publicly.
Serious matter according to this warning about PHARMSTAR.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/PHAR/quote
Whats your opinion Wildfalls to go with a certified letter, signing required with return ,sent to home address,as a starting point.
USPS will also forward to new address if its changed upon request?
Could be assembled by one investor after collection of data from several investors with very legitimate concerns and request at the least firmly ask for a conferance call. Voice would be easily recognizable from past CC.
After response or lack of response, then go from there.
TIA GLTU
Read the post again and try and respond accordingly.
I didnt say i respond or say the things you speak of to CEO/PHAR in the past in my communication with him, from many months ago. He knows me from my business email. Shouldnt have a clue to match up my alias. Ive always been respectful but questions asked were relevent and to the point.
Thing is he couldnt answer truthfully so just as with others, he went silent.
IMO opinion the only one proving PHAR is a scam are your claims that are of no merit , pure speculation that has been unverifiable.
Now that NONE of these claims ever come true, you are in fact shouting clearly to the board this is a scam.
GLTA
I agree with that EboJr. I will join effort as i believe after 9 months since hearing from CEO, (last CC) it shouldnt be deemed as bad or bashing thing to do. Just plain common sense for good investor relations for present and future investors.
ZERO answer of any emails nor zero phone return calls made since DEC for me. So hope your effort includes as you say some one that can set up a Conference Call to hear his voice and be able to ask direct, blunt questions as to the status of PHAR situation.
Do not want to know if flowers blooming at new location, but ask is there even a new location, and why was move needed.
If we dont get a response if many join the effort to ask in a proffessional manner and we get no response, then we know the condition of PHAR. A SCAM
Hopefully he will give a CC
GLTU
The proof/truth is , when facts came to light late Nov. every prediction based on facts obtained has come true, not a few, all of them.
The proof of the BIG NEWS COMING that has run its course has failed to come to light after months and months of non verifiable claims.
Result= hovering in triple zeros with pumping and painting to get to .001 on occasion now.
.001 for the claims made about PHAR and AQUAPRIN from MGT., and current PPS is supposed to create buzz of BIG NEWS COMING is borderline ridiculous.
Failure, if admitted, can be corrected IMO
Failure and hiding and using illegal practices has but one place to go, DARK DEATH ICON on OTC.
Some will join PHAR Mgt team with publishing insider transactions in the media outlets, claiming to have direct contact with PHAR and publishing his emails.What a mess.
GLTU
Thanks but you can save that for others. Doesnt cut it with me other than SEC info.
They hadnt completed one single thing at location they were in, even opening packets of product of someone else, crushing ingediants and sticking on AQUAPRIN label to pass out samples.
Doesnt sound as if you/PHAR should worry about expansion when nothing happened in location they were in, but the fabrication of PRs that were so crooked as to intent to lure innocent investors they did well out of this location.
Exact scenerio as to private/con attempt in 2009. Probably wont even look at link but ill send anyway for others. Notice scenerio unfolded that matches your claims of HOWARD and your emails
http://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/projects/pharmastar/ claim.
Even swindled Rocky Mt into $300,000 grant. Just click on awards and scroll to find grant for PHAR. Would bet he wont be in business in Rocky MT anytime soon, IMO
http://hartiganmanagement.com/
Howard claims he had funding secured, had a building, but notice he said but only enough to produce a few million. For some inexplicable reason he was not producing this but requesting everything larger, big scale to try and run with big boys.
Why not produce the product in the millions and grow into expansion.
Why not produce the product at Wilson, at least some form of attempt at revenue. IMO claiming big things,expansion when you have totally failed on smaller scale, is almost hilarious, and no one is falling for it, not anymore!
GLTA
Thanks for effort.
To add to this , when phones at PHAR changed to ZERO info other than goodbye, I tried different agencies to try and determine why.
Ended up being directed to Wilson Economic Developement Authority. Their research shows that PHAR was no longer at Wilson location.
I wonder how anyone can justify this as ok , and shareholders do not need to know. My guess insiders working with Howard a couple of weeks ago tried to pump the hell out of this stock trying to unload before final move out 2 weeks ago.
Many blame this on former shell, but this is not Howards first time screwing investors through deception/lies/trying to embellish something that is obviously nothing.
3yrs ago look carefully at the wording of this link and the arrogance, not even accomplishing or performing first step before claiming how huge PHAR would become.
He also got a $300,000 grant through deception that was granted because of claims made to increase production 10fold, thus expansion and hiring new people.
http://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/projects/pharmastar/
Just like now, he dissapeared like a thief in the night conning investors and the City of Rocky Mount. What a HUGE red flag missed.
This was long, long before McLaughlin and crew @ BMGI shell. In my oponion, Howard sought and found shell, not the other way around. Needed an expert at pulling PUBLICly traded scam and he found the perfect partner in Mc and evil thieves. Howard already had done this in private sector. His name just happens to be Howard, and looks like a decent silver haired guy. But he as CEO has been ruthless in how he treats investors.
Sorry Ebo Jr for length of post, i get carried away.
I think about mention of securing financing. If anyone with money interested, you call and every ext. only says GOODBYE and go by plant and no PHAR what possible reason would one go forward putting a single penny in.
GLTU
Very appreciative post. Iam as well a PHAR shareholder and without question want to succeed.
Thanks for well wishing. Have very bad seizures and this last one did a number on me.
I know my posts are unorthodox for a shareholder, but if you go back my desire to put running this company and needed investor relations and keeping us informed,squarely on the shoulders of CEO. Sooner or later you as a CEO have to stop blaming others. 2009 attempt was well before shell team.
No matter what news comes , as we should see from past PRS, the Company is not being operated in a manner that will increase investor interst, but quite the opposite.
Have not tried Aquaprin, but all the ingrediants are proven drugs, and with the high dose of asprin it should.
But something is wrong, something just absolutely does not make sense as to why product doesnt strike interest in the investor/ medical field all these years. Is it claims on all areas that AQUAPRIN claims are not passing test. Just my opinion.
Im just a firm believer in the truth. Tell investors the truth and do a reboot so to speak. All this other stuff just kills it and pps will hover around where it is for a long long time otherwise.
Try calling PHAR and listen to automated message for every ext. What a horrible message this sends to any investor. This cannot be explained away as ok, or no problem.. Just piss poor MGT decision if PHAR still is a viable company
Again thanks for your post. Very well put
GLTU
These were all direct qoutes to several media outlets with the intent to lure investors, obviously not factual information. with Howards name vouching.
If it was just one not a big deal, but every single PR has untruths, many outright illegal statements or LIE
#1 Rollback never filed with Del SOS
#2 No audit ,not auditor retained as stated.
#3 No distribution agreement with AMS, they cant even do distibution of drugs.
#4 Dr. James Carlson, has a healthy living food show, has zero contact with PHAR. and per his company would never advertise PHAR/asprin product on his show , as per his PR. Not on board, nor ever been Chaiman of Med Advisory board.
#5 Zero marketing tour. NO verification and isnt it curious as to why medical advisory board didnt go to have a better shot at relating to medical field.Not a single word as to how it went.
#6 No medical advisory board, not a word from anyone on this board.
#7 NO tier upgrade in process as to facts mentioned are not even started.
#8 No closing of Wilson building as stated in PR.
#9 No 3rd party testing done and claims published. If so why withhold this info
All of this can be verified for anyone. Ive done my homework, and my research doesnt need proof to satisfy authenticity by board.
Some of the outlandish statements being slung around do not require proof. My statements, every single one, with the effort ive put in, can be verified by anyone interested in finding the truth.
None of this can be blamed on someone stealing Howards pen and making these PRs that are lies or illegal.
GLTA
With all due respect jammer,,Wonder why wait the two weeks if secured. PPS could be quad zeros by then and PR would get us back to a whopping .0008
From statements about Howard in Walmarts home office finalizing a deal, to snake charmers, to firm knowledge of financing secured, imo, this type desparation lowers PPS and investors belief there is something to look forward to.
IMO GLTU
MR PERFECT, whether or not they have filed for a number that is totally irrevelent to my statements.
This number id you speak of is free to get anyone can do this ,takes one day. Pharmstar has had number since Rocky Mount 4yrs ago. It automatically stays the same when you change location.
Curious as to how you got number. You would have to have Howards password. Surely ,as a public company he is not doing that to select few.
Point is not number, its what its purpose and requirments. Its financial statement, audit records, liabilities vs assets over a two year period, which is required by Walmart for Companies wanting to place drugs in their stores.
My goodness, PHAR cant even stay current with filings and withhold any information on why its not . This ,if its being done with Dun&Bradstreet, what possible reason can you offer as to why this would not be good for PHAR and PPS now to stay CURRENT with OTC.
Fact is you cant, to obtain a number years ago, is easy and a dime a dozen. Its what you do with it.
My guess, IMO since this venue of D&B is needed when you apply for a grant it was done in 2009 failed attempt at operating PHAR . They recieved $300,000 grant and taxpayers spent $10,000 to administer grant. Burnt the ROCKY MOUNT BRIDGE BEHIND HIM.
LINKS provided below.
Would like to hear your opinion as to why 2009 PHARMSTAR went belly up and just disappeared in thin air?http://hartiganmanagement.com/
http://www.rockymountnc.us/agenda/prnews_item.asp?NewsID=187om/
http://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/projects/pharmastar/
GLTA
First i want to say congrats on becoming a mod EboJr.
Decided i would fracture my back in 5 places and had to back off everything so ive just sat back for a while , so first post in over a month.
To add to your post, it didnt have to go down like this. Thats the sad part. Once PRs were proven to be lies and pps was still above a penny, as a group we should have not let up without answers. But thats then and this is now.
As you and many that have the guts to state the obvious truth, it is sad to see the claim of some fantasy land information to raise this from the dead in some PR.
Fact is investors have not, investors have not heard a word in 9 1/2 months in a conference call in JULY.
Every pr not only is a false claim, they are illegal. Not a SINGLE ONE of them have truth, and good ,smart investors check this. Now thats sad for many to blame this on someone else but the one making the false claims in PRS
As far as the Walmart issue, that is pretty much an insult to most investors intellegence. To get in WALMART with a drug, you must carry a 10 million dollar liability policy, have good standing with FDA after a period of operation, a 2yr filing record with Dun & Bradstreet to be approved by Walmart and a complete UPC and bar coding system tied with Walmart. Investment just to get in Walmarts door would be impossible at present , thats just common sense.
Those that makes promises based on AQUAPRIN is FDA approved ,that it can comeback just based on this attribute, AQUAPRIN has never even been approved by FDA, never been tested, just violated regulation for production in past.
Its ingrediants have been FDA approved for years, but it itself has not been tested nor any testing by 3rd party as to claims
Not one single place can be found that Aquaprin holds a patent on AQUAPRIN, just filed for patent pending, which is a simple, non costly procedure anyone can do.
Sad thing, try and call PHAR. Only thing you get now is "GOOD BY", at every extension. Everyone should try calling.
As far as email correspondance with any investor on this board that can be proven it comes from Howard, Howard would have to be stupid, wanting to go to prison.
Again congats on becoming mod
How is that a relevent question to ask? Makes no difference to you DOES to me!!! Topic was PHAR and is PHAR ..PERIOD!!!
Phar never paid for the first awareness campaign it solicited, so i doubt he can play that (3rd party) card twice, do it for me but sorry, not going to pay..
Dumptruck load of shares might convince a group , but just like before, PPS lasted less than a day and sank like a rock afterwards.
JMO If after all these years and the efforts from this past year, that investors are not drawn to this by it just standing on its own merit,, it shows to me what little faith CEO has in implementing a business model that works.
GLTA
G Bert- You think it will get any deeper tomorrow? Will need hipwaders if so!!
Surely CEO is not offering shares to pay for this AWARENESS promo.
GLTU
WOWSA,, thats some bold stuff for a company that nobody has a clue whats even going on.
Does this group if they are still in WILSON?
Thanks for info
GLTA
Hope all goes well for you .
Just hadnt seen you on the board before at PHAR, with that kind of position i just was thinking you would have posted before, with the boldness you are now..
Were you a BMGI holder?Former shell of PHAR . FINRA approved ticker change last April. So you must have if been here over a year.
Just a firm believer AWARENESS can backfire if it causes suspicion in a stock thats already sinking. It just sinks faster.
Just all IMO but an honest one.
GLTU
Hard for PHAR to uplist, in reality it doesnt even exist anymore.
NEWS big small tiny huge are in fact just a play.
Seen pinks that are scamming people trade high volumes that dont have an office, dont answer phones, never update web material, dont have a product to sell, do not file anything but trash .
So getting real deep to indicate uplisting posible unless you can find an auditor that can lie like a dog. Would check with DM for one but he burned so many bridges behind him now.
GLTA
Welcome to PHAR board . To help you in AWARENESS program going on and to save a lot of quotes for you, so much is being proven and has been proven to PHARMSTAR INVESTORS that is pure fraud,
since it already gets knee deep its hard to digest certain quotes in an awareness blitz in bold letters thats so obvious. Sort of makes most of PHAR shareholders want to vommit. I know you dont want that.
Sure you understand MOMOs and BBs stock haven would be great outlets for that.
Good luck on the pump for PHARMSTAR.
Bayer contract? NO They have very popular effervecent asprin with acid reliever ALKA Seltzer
OTCBB? NO WENT FRO "CURRENT" TO "LIMITED" TO dark so that wrong direction
Financials? ? is correct. They choose to keep all that secret
Audit? Uplisting PR false so ? remains
GLTA
And dont forget a confirmation to Surfguy, a credible CPA and person right there in FLA.
Labrozzi in no way should ever be mentioned as even remotely a part of PHAR audit.
I have a confirmation email, but it has a lot of extra legal advice on some accounting issues and ideas on what to watch for in filings.
So IMO nothing else should be needed other than HOWARD coming forward as a CEO and say "I SCREWED up, should never have put out false PRsss.
AIMO
GLTA
Not sure i follow reply. Sure didnt mean to imply PHAR/CEO has been anything close to reliable. CEO of PHAR or any public Company should be a reliable source of honest and up to date info but Our CEO hasnt spoken in 8months.
GLTU and apologize if i misled
Good luck with that one. PHAR/CEO should be a reliable source but "silence" makes reliability in the eyes and ears of the beholder very unreliable.
GLTA
No not aware of those.
As facts present themselves with unfolding of evidence ill be sure to keep all legitimate investors informed.
Lot of info unfolding daily on PHAR and some very tangled webs. SCARY stuff.
GLTA and AIMO
Who said anybody bought at all time high. Just gave facts. In regards to some accurate data..
As an investor , without requiring any lessons on investing, i do concur that it always is the responsibility of an investor to do DD and thus accept outcome.
So your info really didnt help but at i read all lines.
One big difference IMO an investor also has the right to accept or not accept the fact of rolling over if fraud can be determined as to the demize of ones investment.
Lot of PHARMSTAR investors are not going to rollover. I FOR SURE WILL NOT .
Big News coming on validated facts on who all is involved in this elaborate scam going on.
Wonder just how low some deeeeeeep discounted shares are going for these days to help maybe a chosen few recover lunch money? Surely thats not going on on a legitimate company right before it sinks ?? Without the knowledge given to all investors about these almost FREE unrestricted`shares.
Hope CEO that has CHOSEN to operate with known crooks wont squeel on everyone when SEC offers the cell right next to Bernie Madoff. He might cut a deal, who knows.
IF CEO CAME FORWARD,things wouldnt have gotten to this point.
AIMO
With respect, How often has that occured? Enough to claim strong interest.
DATA for PHAR= APRIL 2011 .06 to a low of .0005 few days ago.
Data from CEO/PHAR= not a word to investors in 8 months during this tanking knowing the issues investors were /are having with needing updates.
Only Companies out to scam perform this way, and CEO/PHAR has not come forward to eliminate these assumptions by those that have lost a ton of money.
GLTU
Reason i said that is because i went by before they moved in, after they said they were moving from Rocky Mt. I had business in NC but wanted to see first hand so i made a 3hr detour.
So i know exactly what your saying on speeds.
Funny you mentioned airport, doing some background DD in Wilson, guess who kept an airplane in hanger at Wilson a few years back.
Howard Pkykitt on one of his other business ventures. Don Watson with PHAR is a big pilot. Dont even know if he is still with PHAR. He has an ext. , but NO human ever answers the phone, any extension, always a message to be left.
There is a large removable PHARMSTAR banner sign on the metal larger building. Curious to see if thats still on. IF NOT then PHAR has fled the building. They should be able to circle parking lot to get a better look. Thanks for an vital information that lets us know where we stand on any matter relevent to our investment.
Shame we have to go through this kind of crap just to get information , but with not a word in 8 months, you do what you have to.
GLTU and tell your friends thanks for effort
Hey EboJr Your word is good. Alot of repo's happen on weekend on rental or leased furniture. But trucks normally have company logo.
GLTU