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Pitboss, since I am not management I do not have a copy to 8 page judges written statement. Mr. Valentine obviously has a copy and he can post that to his base less minerals website. That way everybody on this board can see what the judge wrote. That is fair.
If Mr. Valentine wants to show the truth, then he should post this on to his website.
By the way his latest fraud case means nothing. He filed this fraud case while the ownership case was being disputed. Basically he stated that the directors committed fraud because they didn't own the property. Well we now know that the judge agreed that mabwe owns the property. So there is absolutely no case!
The fraud case will be thrown out of court. It's garbage and only a diversionary tactic
Valentine Has NOT been granted an appeal. He had a just need an application for an appeal!!!
He will lose again, as always. He has no credibility in the court system of Zimbabwe and is a convicted child rapist per the court documents.
Current fraud case against Groves from Valentine is garbage and BS. It will quickly be thrown out of court. This was started a long time ago by Valentine and has no basis. Valentine has no credibility in the courts of Zimbabwe. He is a convicted child rapist and a convicted thief
Lots of things happening behind-the-scenes. once valentine loses his right to appeal the court case we will be on our way
Mr. Valentine will lose his right to appeal the current judgment in favor of our company. His most recent fraudulent attack from the fraud squad will be thrown out as well.
Get ready for the ride, mabwe is on the launchpad getting ready for lift off!!
Has an appeal been granted to Mr. Valentine? I don't think so. There have to be grounds for an appeal.
The only thing that Mr. Valentine has proven he is good at is filing court cases and losing them! It's just a delaying tactic to try to get a negotiation or settlement done.
He always loses! Three in a row! It is a travesty to the court system in Zimbabwe that this is allowed to go on and Valentine will be held accountable for his crimes.
Please kindly inform Mr. Valentine to write checks to us for half of everything he makes on the limestone. Remember Even his fraudulent tribute agreement states than half the profits go to us.
So thank you in advance for all the money we will be making! But enjoy it while lasts because soon Valentine will be packing his bags out of Dodge mine!!
Thanks Ranger. Valentine will soon be out of her way. We can then thank him for preparing the limestone quarry for us. That will save us further money as we expand operations.
Mine is one amazing mountain filled with all sorts of little goodies. These will be like little Christmas presents all the investors who have stood strong through this long court case with Valentine.
The court case was clearly about ownership. It's simple. If you own the property you get to stay there. If you don't own the property you have to leave.
This is simple math. Thank you
Baseminerals lost the court case what makes you think that they can stay there? Please provide evidence that allows them to stay there. As far as the judges concerned they have to leave.
Ranger, we are on our way now that Valentine has lost. The stockpiled barite will provide the capital infusion the company needs. We also have limestone ready.
With little to no cost the limestone can be developed while we wait for the barite equipment.
Material stocked on site is not "worthless". It is just not chemical grade. There is plenty of API Grade on site that can be sold to pay all those liabilities that you mentioned. There would be a mountain of money left over afterwards. There is also limestone stockpiled on site that can be sold to local vendors.
It's always important to have accurate information and I anticipate we will have some nice changes in the near future. Now that Valentine has been easily defeated as predicted, we can get back on site and begin the process again. Valentine has had occupancy of the mine for 10 months and that made it impossible for our company to go forward during that time.
The inventory is exceptable to local buyers but not to the international buyers.
There is also a considerable amount of limestone on-site that is ready for sale to Local buyers.
That is the reason why the bank is not worried about the overdraft. They know how much inventory is on site. Did a valentine tying up the site and taking occupancy for the last 10 months, mabwe was unable to sell the inventory to local buyers. Once Valentine is removed from the site, that will begin immediately.
Right on Ranger. Now that 10 months of valentine legal garbage is out-of-the-way, we can now begin the next phase.
The next step is to see if Valentine is granted an appeal. Hopefully he is not and we can get back to selling some inventory on site to raise cash.
Expect big things in the near future.
Valentine LOST!! Finally Valentine admits defeat. As predicted mabwe won very easily.
Valentine is a convicted child molester who should be in jail for his crimes. It's not surprising that he lost. He is a criminal who would be in jail for 20 years in the United states. I personally look forward to him suing mabwe investors and management in the United states.
Mabwe will be mining limestone soon thanks to Valentine preparing the site!!! Thank you Valentine!!!
I am not only counting my chickens today but celebrating the victory mabwe has finally resolved. Valentine is finished- his tribute agreement means nothing.
The tribute is not with the current owner and was never valid! It was false and it was illegal to begin with. Just like Valentines illegal activities as documented by my previous post including the sexual assault on a minor female for which he would be spending 20 years in jail if he lived in The United States
He is a criminal as evidenced by is now 3 Lost Court cases
The judgment is real and valentine knows that.
An appeal is not always granted by the judge there has to be a reason for that and valentine does not have a reason so I did not plan on appeal being granted
We are still waiting for Valentine to pay the court costs and attorney fees for the last court case he lost and go r the appeal he lost.
In defense of my post which continues to be referenced it is important to note that I made it very clear that the reason why we were not mining or developing other areas of the site was because of the violent nature of Peter Valentine.
Peter Valentine has threatened to kill the directors of mabwe. All the infrastructure including roads and housing ran through the section that Peter valentine controlled. Since he is a violent man who has committed crimes as referenced in my posts, I made it clear that that was the reason why we were not pursuing our other opportunities on site.
As predicted, Peter Valentine has been defeated and we can now get back to business. The company did reference these legal issues in their reporting.
Today's a great day for all the investors in a very bad day for Peter Valentine.
As predicted, Valentine has lost his case once again and is required to pay all court costs. With such an evil resume Valentine had no chance of winning.
Now the fun begins as the wheels get turning again and we are back to business! Over the next month investors will see and hear about some very nice events.
Mabwe Directors have been working hard behind-the-scenes for this moment.
Thank you UK. Every day that passes is one day closer to a resolution of this court case so we can begin the mining operation again. We have all the capital we need with the inventory stocked on site. So it should be no problem selling this inventory to local buyers.
Then we begin developing the mother load.
UK Bruce, Actually there's so much evidence against valentine that Stevie wonder COULD see it!
Remember the dispute with Valentine is only about a small area of the mine. We own and control almost 3 miles of mountain range that is filled with all sorts of little goodies that are worth a lot of money.
Once Valentine is finished we can get back on site and back to business. I believe that will happen very soon.
The criminal nature of Valentine has been proven along with his violent tendencies. This was shown not as a smear campaign but to explain why we cannot enter the mine at this time. He will fail as he has failed his entire life.
During the mabwe spoliation high court case, Valentine took his hand and moved it across his throat in a cutting motion to tapiwa in court. He also stated he was going to kill him.
Valentine also stated that he was going to hunt me down and make me pay. I don't think he meant I needed to give him a few dollars!
Not very encouraging fruits. This along with valentines pubic record of sexually assaulting a minor child, show poor character to say the least.
I have no doubt that the judge will make a ruling in favor of mabwe. Hopefully this will come very soon so we can get on with business.
Public record will easily document valentines crimes including an assault on a minor female that is just too evil to go into further detail about.
He threatened to kill tapiwa while in court against mabwe over the spoilation issue. Not a very smart move to do while in court in front of the judge!
Furthermore Valentine has threatened numerous other people publicly with violent behavior including me.
If Valentine will make threats to kill somebody in front of a high court judge, what do you think he will do when he's not in court?!
Soon enough the judge will make her decision in favor of mabwe. Then valentine leaves dodge mine and the company get things rolling again. There are millions of dollars in stockpiled material on site which will serve as a capital catalyst to go forward.
It makes no sense for the company to validate reserves with a drilling program right now because it would just fuel valentine into fighting even harder for something that doesn't belong to him.
Mabwe's investors patiently wait for the court case to resolve soon so they can get back on site to continue operations. Due to the violent nature of Mr. Valentine it is impossible to occupy the mind alongside of him. That is been well documented.
Valentine has threatened to kill the directors of mabwe. It is just not safe for them to be on site at this time.
Let's not forget that since December of last year Valentine has occupied Dodge mine. However he will soon be booted off. His little tactic has been to force the company into a settlement. His tactic backfired on him as the directors refused to do any business with him due to his criminal nature
Valentine stated in the last court case regarding spoilation that he was going to kill Tapiewa. Unfortunately this is the kind of character that the company is dealing with right now.
This is but one small example. Valentine also publically mentioned that he was going to hunt me down and make me pay.
And of course there is his legal case a few years back about a vicious crime he committed against a minor child. It's too disgusting and evil to go into detail about it.
The list of his crimes and violence goes on and on. However unfortunately he does have an exceptionally talented lawyer who knows how to manipulate the court case to Valentines advantage.
There Is no doubt That in the United States valentine would be behind bars
Mabwe is not mining because valentine is Extremely aggressive toward anyone else who occupies the mine and has he threatened violence against them and me.
It's just not a safe environment for mabwe.
soon enough the court case will be over valentine will have to leave once again. It should be over very soon
Valentine is not fighting this hard for a scam. He's fighting this hard because he knows what the asset of Dodge mine is worth.
Unfortunately until the court case is resolved there really is nothing else to talk about
Thank you Beyondbarite. Once again you have provided details that back up the criminal nature and personality of Mr. Valentine. Mr. Valentine has threatened me personally with violence against me.
I can promise you that Mr. Valentine has his next 3 Legal Court cases against mabwe all ready to go. It is my hope that management has anticipated his next moves and is ready.
The criminal charges against Valentine are immense as referenced recently on the yahoo message board.
Mabwe directors are both truthful and without any criminal record.
Valentine will lose his case and then most likely file a dozen more lawsuits. All will have the same result. He loses!!
Sorry to inform but not one officer of mabwe has ever been convicted of a crime. To say the officers Are criminals is a personal attack.
Valentine will be held responsible for any barite or limestone stolen from Dodge mine. Valentine is a documented criminal with a criminal record and would be in jail if he lived in the United States.
Thank you beyondbarite. Your detailed and factual posts are greatly appreciated.
Do you know if Valentine is actually selling (stealing) our stockpiled material and limestone?
Valentine is a known criminal as referenced by the yahoo message board recently
Nothing new. Both sides anxiously wait for an answer from the judge. Valentine will be defeated again. Hopefully an answer will come soon. It's been a month now after the court concluded.
Valentine occupies the mine with armed guards and attempts to create a major altercation whenever mabwe comes on site. His intention is to try to get mabwe to do something stupid to strengthen his case.
So it is not possible for mabwe to conclude any work on the mine while Valentine is there.
Hope that helps.
"BUT VALENTINE ALREADY KNOWS WHO THE CULPRITS ARE !!
Perhaps I need a little education but I'm not quite sure what this means and who is being referred to?
Mabwe Will soon have the results of the court case and will be proven winners once again.
Word on the street is that Mr. Valentine's lawyer presented their summary statement last week attempting to explain why Mr. Valentine is a 50% owner in Chiroswa Syndicate. The reasons were so weak, inconsistent and filled with conflicting comments that Mabwe Minerals' legal team is still salivating as they have until later this week to provide their summary statement.
Can you imagine? Mr. Valentine spending 3 years trying to spin his ownership claim so many different ways through our courts that the judge's head must have been spinning in disbelief. Each time Mr. Valentine attempted to state under oath under different cases his evidenced changed and changed and changed. In this case, all of the prior related cases were presented and Mr. Valentine was cross-examined on each conflicting statement he swore under oath. I think you Americans use the word "flip-flop".
Word on the street is that it sounded like this:
1. "Yes I have an original document that proves I own 50% of Chiroswa Syndicate". OK...where is it? "O, I realize that I can only provide a copy but I brought this Commissioner of Oath to verify that he stamped a copy".
Note: I read over on your ihub that Mr. Valentine said he had two original documents yet he could not produce one original document in court.
That failed so let's try this one
2. "O'My, I just realized that I don't have an original document, it was verbal".
10 minutes of laugher
3. "How about this your honor, I bartered for 50% of Chiroswa Syndicate for paying Mr. Groves' legal fees." How much did you pay? "I don't remember". Who did you pay? "I don't remember". Did you register the paperwork with the Ministry of Mines? "Was I supposed too?" Do you have any evidence to support this claim? "The Commissioner of Oath will verify....HEY...where is he?"
15 minutes of laughter
Mabwe's lawyers are having a field day drafting their summary statement
Message to valentine:
Please tell us (the mabwe investors) exactly how Mabwe Minerals is pathetic & delusional! Your response continues to be void of content or tangible information.
Mabwe Minerals hold the rights to Dodge Mine Blocks 1-6 PLUS the ENTIRE mountain range! The Dodge Mine ownership certificates were taken right out of your hand by our police two years ago as you suddenly remembered where you hid them after stealing a number of document from Mr. Groves' files.
Do you deny that this happened?
You claim suddenly after three years that you are a member of Chiroswa Minerals (Dodge Mine prior owner) presenting a September 21, 2007 "photocopy" representing minutes of a meeting saying you are now a member of Chiroswa Syndicate. You can't produce an original (as required by our court). Mr. Groves has sworn under oath that you were NEVER a member of Chiroswa Syndicate. You have two documents dated the same exact date on two different base minerals letterheads with one document including Mr. Groves gmail account that was verified by Google to have been created in December 2010.
Where was this document when you bartered the stolen ownership certificates giving them to the police in return for getting out of jail? These certificates were IMMEDIATELY re-registered in the name of Mabwe Minerals.
Why not post both of your base minerals documents on your web site? You presented them in court twice before you realized the gmail address backfired in your face.
Your 4th attempt to claim you have a tribute agreement is fading fast as the judge who issued you the order now realizes that you intentionally left out the page showing the tribute agreement had expired in May 2011.
Do you deny that the tribute agreement expired in May 2011? Post the document on your website to prove us wrong.
After the dust settles soon, all that will remain is your multimillion dollar lawsuit that our Supreme Court has already ruled in favor of Mabwe Minerals.
Question, who is valentine going to sell barite to?? None of mabwe's clients will do business with him.
Soon this will be all over as valentine then continues another frivolous lawsuit making the same claims. And he will lose again. Seriously, valentine needs his head examined.
Soon valentine will be appealing mabwe's legal victory claiming that a poster on an internet message board from America bribed a judge in Zimbabwe!!!
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
Mabwe owns 100% of Dodge mine now. That is a fact. Even assuming that valentine wins, he only gets HALF. So basically he will be making mabwe investors money!!!!
Thank you MR. VAlentine. We will gladly take half!!!
But that is pure fantasy, Valentine will lose as the court case is finishing up this week.
100% guaranteed!!!!!!