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Question: what is your estimate of what it costs to create these mobile games, on average? $2-400K/game?
I am going to start my re-acquisition of GLUU stock now slowly.
I like what I see here. Thanks for all the great downloads, etc. to board.
I think the recent $150 Mil stock rights issue by GLUU is just the right thing to do now, for the company's future.
Mr. Adelson(NV Bilionarie) probably does not like GLUU, as it competes with his traditionalist casinos only gambling scenario?
He may be too 'old-school' on his perceptions of what will be future of small fry paid gambling/gaming online mobile. Can one fight APPL, Android, and dawning implosion of paychecks and ability to travel? Stay-cation reality looming. As multinationals raise petro prices, the cars get parked. One can only imagine what those new bus rides and car-pool-ers will be doing to pass the time. His marketing position, does not seem to take into account dwindling size of Middle Class in USA.
The greatest force on our side is this (I believe): once we destroy or disable the bare minimum of physically productive assets (like HL) that exist in USA, the stock market and banks will collapse.
There, then, will be no safety or peace for those that control DC and Wall Street. They know that. They can only go so far to chock the economy, before they suffer the same effect. The 1 (or 5)% are not that dumb.
Only a ship of fools would punch itself in the face and think they had the world now.
If there is no effort made to restart america this fall, and the powers that be, assume the american unemployed are completely under their thumb . . . a winter and spring of discontent will transpire . . . and continue the damage to our country.
Continuing stagflation (let them eat cake!) in Washington DC and Wall Street and the Board Rooms of commerce . . . are bad signposts for liberty and freedom and governance in our USA.
We are witnesses now to a very strange form of economics: the very best and most physically needed resources are being choked off from the general economy. And, a belief reins in the highest places; that a service economy can provide jobs and income to itself, through foreign produced products. Credit card debt of all forms and types (including deficit spending), can electronically create capital demand (without localized production). The FED is not working to restart jobs in the USA. It only functions to create the illusion of recovery through allows phony backed dollars to cycle into the coffers of Wall Street and corporate pay increases. You saw the TV commerical where the guy is throwing operating chain saws into the air in a weird twist on the game of musical chairs. This can't go on , without eventually harming someone and something.
We have a bunch of speculators high on profiteering addiction syndrome, and their supporters (the FED and congress), supplying the means to keep them smiling.
PMs production and use is not a drug of choice . . . its a valuable tool for industrialization. The modern economy and society exists because of PMs in its tech . . . not its coinage and rings and things. A country that does not have or produce PMs and raw materials associated with its ores extraction, must buy the same from others.
That is the saving grace for HL and other domestic PM producers.
PMs make possible the weapons systems that protect the world's commerce trade routes. And, I doubt anyone is stupid enough to expect to procure PMs from China and Russia, etc. in time of need.
HL stock price will turn back up and so will the price of PMs?
We are in beautiful short 'sneeze' territory?
Earnings call coming in about 2 weeks.
Looked at their you tube site.
Anyone know what retailers carry their software (as pay-for downloads)?
Stated in company profile have *60 employees.
Has now $15 Mil stock registration go through . . should last them until 2015?
Lots of new games coming out Indie and PariPlay paid online gambling.
Atari stuff coming last quarter of 2014.
Comic based games also coming by end of 2014.
Midnight City Indie developer is active.
Others have talked of coming Reverse Split to stay listed above pink sheets status. I am doubting this will now happen due to new $15 Mil successful stock registration. Lets see how that goes.
I think company COOL will survive into 2015. Any one care to comment before coming conference call?
Regardless . . . I still hold a few shares, and will not be overly hurt to lose them. I like company and hope they can get their unique assets going profitably. Anyone have any positive thoughts?
Sorry to see you go, and hope you still continue to stop back.
I have become also concerned with OMEX drama.
I remain as I suppose everyone will make money on this stock, including Meson.
Imagine if original site recovery company investors, were to favorably comment to court, about allowing OMEX to release some current recovery site find info. All, in the interest of 'sea science' and right of public interest be fulfilled.
The more time that OMEX spends out to sea on site . . . implies a steady pace of reoovery . . . and the current bottoming of OMEX stock price movement range seems to confirm this. If I were Meson . . . one might suspect now is time to be closing his shorts and flipping over to long position?
Another potential problem for shorts, is if court may have allowed USA Marshals on-board the OMEX explorer and they are court certified to take immediate legally documented evidence of recovery, as it happens on site. And, then seal it officially; on the ship for storage and transfer is then legally done and ok-ed for port acceptance, to federal landing and control. The shorts will have no means to direct evidence of what and how much was recovered.
Apparently, big investors in OMEX stock have not bailed, and would benefit enormously if Judge allowed some clarity about on-going recovery efforts; and rather suddenly were to allow that germane announcement effect we all hope for. <---short sneeze?
Maybe he is. Do not know if EU knows much about native USA casinos.
I did not sign up for site, though I noted you have to bet from native casino venue, and can bet on anything, anywhere (in sports betting?). I had problems with their wording, and it seemed that your 'win' went to casino 'use coupons'? That is OK and solves putting out cash for wins and also step forward towards tribes getting into online gambling. I am sure tribes and ATIG will be a lot more comfortable with some online user data to work forth from.
I can foresee that various governmental groups will want to look this data over also (as a courtesy to expanding data pool of info on online users, etc.) This might make tribes 'uncomfortable', as they appear to want to avoid contact with any governmental levels.
Don't tell the judge?
Did she expanse her 'hold' to past epics,
(undertakings of recovery items)?
OMEX may have limited management staff to oversee multiple on-going recoveries?
'Judge Judy' may have wisely created, the precondition that all OMEX 'resources' be currently applied to present recovery operation (she has mandated OMEX to do)? Thus, we see OMEX trying to do a quickie reoovery (no one knows if OMEX has a time limit on how much recovery 'take' to obtain . . . example leave the little stuff down there . . . its not worth the effort)? Judge may not be allowing enough time for OMEX to do historic study of the wreck? <---'Lets get the gold!'? This is a treasure hunt.
OMEX is pursuing outside film directors and writers, to 'milk' their time on site double or triple time? I just think their is all kinds of $$s to make B-Grade movie plots on this recovery time on site?
Get LionsGate funding involved . . . the Judge can,t really complain about that. It would seem to make sense for USA military vessel (with USA Marshals on broad), to be monitoring the wreck and taking possession on-site of recovery? The military vessel makes the trips to port (with some OMEX overseers), and this scenario might speed the recovery process? Get NCIS involved (TV series) for a plot . . . make the $$s by expanding the PR pie.
Judge and USA Marshals should have requested a drone mission to monitor the surface OMEX operation . . . get the USA Navy involved? More potential shareholders as the word spreads?
Obvious OMEX is keeping the prize coupons tight to their chest?
Expect OMEX to cry salty tears to the Judge . . . for right to some PR coverage. I mean . . . have you ever met a Judge that willing wanted the spotlight tag of 'enemy of free enterprise'?
Invite some big politico names out and notables . . . for the entertainment tonite spots. Put a gold coin on a swim suit model . . , Lady GuyGuy ups the voltage! James C. and Johnny D would probably love to have an invite and PR promo. Stock for movie funding deals? Daa! What a chance to positively plug Made in USA.
Recov should be done within two months, to enable OMEX to do 2+ operations this year? Problem may be OMEX just does not have trusted and trained staff to do 2+ ops/yr?
Oh-ie Hmm . . . watching the paint dry in the Sea Breeze
That is about what I had envisioned was happening.
ATIG has funding to pay off betting wins . . . interesting . . .
maybe have set limit on how many bets they 'take' on?
This is a way into paid online and mobile gambling,etc.
Should have done it years ago, except for USA 'holds' on personal credit card use for such.
How do you think it will effect
'the freeze'?
It will take several quarters to get initial data. Some of these online paid gaming sites given one free dollars to began with, to stimulate gambling audience. Wondering how ATIG is to advertise this for USA users . . . just depending on Malta firm user list ad (and maybe face book random ads?
This Malta mechanism is about only way forward, it seems, with a limited budget expense for ATIG.
This leads me to believe we retail investors will not see any 'unfreeze' soon (at least several quarters way). PRs are steadily increasing though, thus we might see unfreeze sooner than I foresee (at this time).
The 'twist' is how does ATIG keep its remaining retail investors, and get new ones through paid list ads . . . without some explaining? ATIG has presently gone the route of maintaining its ATIG name plate, as its business key, so they have a plan of sorts.
Ascending channel chart looks good.
Lets see how is goes after earnings.
Thanks. Usually earnings after the bell is iffy for investors?
Wikibetting is in Malta.
This is a way for ATIG to foster online paid gambling without going with Native Casinos? Interesting idea . . . will Native Casinos and Adelson like this?
Not sure if it legal in USA to bet on facebook internationally?
What have I not understood herein . . . what do you folks think is really happening here? Right out of the blue ATIG drops this on us investors . . . help me to understand.
Are only international customers (of ATIG) able to bet this way?
This is cleared with USA states and USA government? Or, does this mean one can bet in USA from Native Casino lands?
From what little I can gauge . . . legalizing medical MJ has different brands of MJ than street dealers. Competition may or may not happen (legalized MJ needs ID and charges yearly medical use fee). Some users of MJ may not want anyone knows they do it?
Fairly hard to gamble online without sending cash or MO to overseas site? Gov will want your credit card info and that leads right to other data about you. Not everyone wants others knowing they gamble (even responsibly). Your boss and company might not be happy about that known publicly.
Surmise eventually online gambling will be done with debit-card type payments for? This way, no one can stop anyone from buying gambling stake for online use. The way it is to be most likely set-up right now, is for X% of your monthly discertionary income can be gambled at registered online site. Online mobile gambling will end up being not much different form buying cable TV or cloud movies?
Adelson will fight this 'management of limits' by governmental levels?
It will take time (maybe years), to get online gambling going.
Soon . . . someone (some company or organization) . . . will get smart and foster a study of all online gamblers habits.
Great post. Valid points for consideration.
Your mother is probably smarter than the rest of us, seeing all this recent hacking into companies?
Personally, I am not getting too much more into OMEX right now . . . though my feeling is it will pull through. OMEX has lasted for over ten years, and has had some unforeseen bad breaks. Part of my reasoning for being in OMEX, is they are the folks selling the picks and shovels and pans to the 'gold seekers' (countries and investors seeking to recovery undersea treasure and mineral deposits). Human race is getting closer and closer to having to make some huge decisions on where to find new natural resources to develop, to continue itself. OMEX is in the vanguard of that new way group trying to find and harvest those raw material resources. Remember; there is more of this globe underwater than above it.
OMEX recently upgraded their ship electronic gear and other on-board gear. I just think they would not of done this unless, they had coming firm contracts of recovery possibilities. The treaty of the seas works against innovative salvage firms, that want to do the right thing environmentally and historically on their sites. Folks in the business world and governments that are unable to recovery loss cargos . . . wait for recovery and then go crying to the courts that they are being robbed. For example, Spain looted the Americas by harsh imperialism and then demands back the PMs they so acquired and lost in a wreck or storm, etc.
Spain had no right to Americas PMs obtained by military force and slavery in my opinion. I felt OMEX should have gotten the present Americas governments (and their military) on their side and made an agreement with them, to recover their lost treasury looted by
Spain. I believe the Americas governments would have been more than happy to have payed OMEX for recovery costs and some profit.
I rather doubt Spain would have been able to out-force the combined Americas military power, which would have firmly told Spain to 'stick it'.
Just my take on it. Courts and lawyers will say I am way wrong.
OMEX needs to be a lot more 'creative' in where and how they store their finds from open seas recovery? USA government will heel before their 'allies' demands for the right to the recovery.
I would love to see OMEX 'donate' the results of a recovery to a worldwide fund trying to save the earth from man. Of course, after they get their recovery costs paid and make a reasonable profit on that recovery. I will get a lot of flak on that idea?
In the end . . . OMEX offers more risk than say GE as a stock . . .but it also offers more reward potential. Once in awhile . . . a company like OMEX comes along . . . who does not feel excitement in exploring, recovering lost treasure and opening up the mining of the ocean floor? Besides . . . they have great potential as a movie company---> Titanic Movie.
OMEX is like Tesla . . . doing 'it' . . . while others think how to ride their backs and steal from their efforts. One thing that keeps me from hitting the sell button, is that I see OMEX as the vanguard poster boy of undersea mining potential. That's worth a little gamble to me.
Just wait until OMEX is allowed by court, to announce a whole lot more about its treasure recovery efforts. A nice recovery display at the Smith in DC with guards . . . and maybe some door prize coins contest . . . would very nicely get international attention OMEX deserves?
Mr. Adelson did enter the gambling business and is profitable big time . . . ironic? Lets see how he does trying his luck in Japan (where he wants a new casino built).
Casinos make a profit ($Billions) off gamblers.
Problem is, gamblers are shifting to mobile devices (cellphones,tablets, laptops) and still doing desktop computer gambling. No one has yet figured how to get casinos profitable, with stay-at-home gamblers, and mobile device user gamblers.
State governments, in time, will work into taking more and more tax-revenue off registered and legal online and mobile gamblers. Amazon has no need to know your SS # for you to buy from them, they just want your verified credit card data. You do not have to be age 18 to buy a pop or candy bar . . . or a DVD or VG game (violent content) at a store and online. Doubtful Adelson and his alliance can stop full congress, etc. and state governments from milking his cows that have free range rights? Times are hard and new tax sources needed asap. If you can pay for online movies and cable and satellite TV and shopping online . . . why not to be able to pay to gamble online? Will the 'cloud' rule?
States will move increasingly to secure restrictions on gambler ages, monthly amounts, and income sources of individual's gambling.
As well as mandatory online real time photo ID, and pyscho anti-addiction sessions.
User data is lacking for projecting correctly who will online gamble, how much. Time is in favor of new demographic gambling trends, as well as costs to prepare and travel to physical casinos. Casinos may end up having to buy up and built their gambling revenues; through owning coffee shop, quick stop and WIFI mobile and at home customers servicing?
Large static casinos business scenario could go the way of the railroad stations, that once were focal point of commerce.
Rdragon, welcome to board.
Short-term stock price uptick for less than 1.00 increase, or long-term hold you are in better position than many on this board. I buy small amounts as 'they' lower the price.
Question: 20% of present EU market strike price in place now, or only 20% of EU gas volume sales shipped? Artl. I read stated Russia to receive $400 Billion in sales of gas to China over next 10-20 years. This is nice backup cash for Russia, to maintain its military investment upgrade budget and other national economy needs.
China (Great Wall)to establish auto factory in Russia to employ
Russian workers, building Chinese Cars for Russia market. Another sufficient off-set to EU and GM auto contract changes (if further sanctions). Also, China and Russia to cooperation on Jet transport research and production models, and joint space research projects.
Throw in India/Russia joint advanced fighter development and Russia did not come out too bad? India deal looks like USA and EU will be cut-off of future India fighter aircraft buys. Signs of increasing pressure on USA $ and foreign T-Bill buying?
How can FED keep lowering QE monthly purchases and keep Stock Market and T-bills and $ balancing act going? We had best hope the bright-bulbs in DC are buying PMs for our mint and defense stockpile. It does make one wonder if this latter idea is happening . . . if it were . . . would not PMs prices be going up?
To me, it would make more sense for USA government to buy PMs with new QE funds, than give to banks that just buy T-Bills via electronic money and then place it in stock market, to drive it up. If the overseas multinationals want to keep their USA stock market prices up, let them bring back some of their overseas profits to USA to do it. Banks wanted the zero down house contracts and fees associated with them . . . let them eat some of that side-dish . . . they cooked up . . . not the bank account savers. What I see going on is USA economy is turning into electronic 'cloud' and their is lessening real physical assets to back it up. Under these new economy concepts . . . freedom of market economies to self-adjust is thwarted significantly.
Not fun to see PM prices still dropping and forcing valuation issues with HL stock price. HL has to keep its mine force employed and selling allied commodities obtained during PM mining.
Doubtful HL wants new inexperienced work force, having to be trained in mining, if it has to close and re-start mining operations. This is illogical use of capital in an economy, that needs steady and improving employment to grow.
A pleasant MD weekend to all
Probably about 2 weeks to earnings call?
MCZ should have some sales to report?
Sales should be $20-40 million for the past quarter, enough to keep MCZ afloat. We may, however; see some layoffs or projects cut-backs? Very big silence on MOJO to date. Racing wheel pheri comments (and initial sales) would certainly help.
Maybe announce small price-cut for MOJO (spun as economies of production line?).
Maybe fight stick 'upgraded' design is coming announcement?
It will be always clever how FireFly Amazon rumor is addressed at call.
PS360, etc. console accessories inventory reduction should be addressed in CC.
A new project or two may be indicated for 2015 era (very vaguely)?
Would like to hear MOJO sales over several thousand, though this is info D likes to keep to himself for now?
I will have to stop at my local Games Stop outlets and see if TitanFall sales were anything. EA might be a way to gauge that RE: EA stock price and board comments?
Petro prices do not drop quickly . . . we are screw-driver-ed for fall and next holiday season? Lowering petro pump price is real only way to rapidly 'primp' consumer retail sales. This would be hard for multinationals to do, as they look to continue earnings.
FED may have to stop monthly QE funding reductions? Ukraine effects on EU and world markets has not been helpful either, to calm consumers.
We either get bang-up! CC news or oh hmm . . . .
Everyone have nice M Day weekend.
Would it not be neat to see D team passing out promo ad info for Racing Wheel at national racing TV events? A hand-out catalog mail-in drawing for MCZ products? Old-fashion low-cost promo. Even a free booth demo referral nearby to rac, with 'SEE Here Demo of PC game Racing Wheel'?
Why not approach movie folk and include segment in their car action films, etc. of Racing Wheel playing by star?
Looks like Third Bank gets to verify each dive results physically, before new money is provided per the loan draw right? That's why Bankers win!
Possession is 9/10's of the law?
Tommy and his boys (including perhaps Meson, who needs allies to drive his part of the shorting goal and then jump back in as long); have no known capability to effectively and environmentally do an effective recovery of the CA wreck site. The court recognizes that OMEX has the up-graded tech, experience, and environmental 'dig' qualification . . . to bring forth most success to recovery of the goods. The Judge has cleverly demanded the recovery artifacts be turned over to USA Marshals exclusively (which settles any 'hold' and security of inventory details at issue). 'Tom-Tom' has been neatly sweep from the issue, regardless (how could he enable receivership even with his atty. of the goods)? There is that little matter of an arrest warrant?
Very fine legal suma by you for board members, like me that have limited legal training.
The game is afoot . . . and doubtful everyone involved wishing to kill the golden calf of recovery? We are below $1.50 OMEX stock price briefly . . . or so it seems?
Probably at least one (and maybe two) USA Marshals aboard the salvage ship, directly watching and documenting the finds. Hardly would look good for Marshals to 'drop-the-ball' in their possession? Perhaps even a spy drone 'practicing' in the immediate area (sands the Navy).
Some talk on another board that the Explorer could basically do the recovery in one trip with good weather. Then, the slow grind of the legalism wheels. Meanwhile; OMEX is off to other finds, its hands totally clean in this mission and with immediate 'lunch money and bus fare' in its pocket, with another check to follow.
Much better financial picture then in that immediate pass epic 'Spanish Double Cross'.
I do agree with your analysis of PMs (hopefully slowly and steadily), going up in price.
One reason this may surely be so is quite different from what most folk envision: having to pay back the deflated value T-Bills foreigners hold. Perhaps even the main issue in why USA PMTeam hoarders, have trumped the world of PMs physically available on the market (for direct purchase).
Someone in the internationalists boys club ('we are all in this TOGETHER my friends') has started to realize a certain Asian nation they had thought was in the loop (has its own loop agenda). Note China now wants to call the Free Trade shots in greater Asia, in the latest news. Ever country (except NK their buds) hates China for some reason.
China is taking over Asia econmically.
Reason why USA stopped the focus so much on EU and Middle East and pushed Asia to front of burner: we make a stand now or lose Asia to China. China, for example, does not have to attack Formosa . . . just strangle it economically. The Nationalist Chinese have invested literally 100 of billions of dollars in Mainland China trade and plant, etc. The coming scenario is China needs new resources, land, and jobs to keep its lower and middle classes happy.
Dumb-dumbs in the NWO (aka the skulls IQ deficits society) have woke up to the setting sun in USA influence in Asia. The coke-a
boys and girls suddenly thought . . . wow! . . . our plants ARE IN CHINA and Asia! Hence . . . the current 'rush' to get that overseas profits back to good old USA tax-free. If you have causally been reading the news the old USA is starting to figure it out . . . need North American plants yesterday! And, who are those guys with the chop sticks running around buying into 'our territory'?!! China is playing its own goals game right in the midst of the NWO. USA is going to be economically and geo-politically hit from numerous sides and fronts.
My contention is that the NWO has come to the con-clue we are in a dance of death . . . not friendly musical chairs program.
This bodes well for our HL.
Big rebuild coming in USA and HL has the right stuff.
I surmise congress is running around in circles and had hoped to forestall having to do real passage on UP America! jobs and plants acts before 2016-2017 . . . why rush it when we have to 'plan' out all the contract goodies? China just turned happy hands boys and girls, on their heads. Be patience and buy the HL stock price floor . . . PMs will be going up.
Let us really hope our brilliant stars in DC Comics and Wall Street Nightmares, have finally figured out the Chinese saying 'We like you . . . but wish you were'nt here'.
To tackle inflation while concurrently paying the deficit T-Bills . . . repayment price in PMs to dollars value ratio . . . has to go up. China knows that . . . we just figured it out. Thus Asians been buying PMs to counter possible USA dollar inflation effect on their initial T-Bill buys. That's why USA is hoarding PMs from the general consumer market? Reset will come. Raise the price of pms and we can buy back our debts at a increasingly favorable dollar value ratio. Fellow investors, did I say it right? Has everyone been buying and hoarding PMs at yard Sale prices, to be able to off-set coming PM/Dollar prices?
Buying HL around $3 is my poor man way of buying into the gold and commodities inflation coming . . . I get North America resource positioning . . . USA company that has possession of physical . . . and they pay a dividend! I am not selling insurance . . . but does it not seem that way?
Not a financial adviser nor insurance salesman . . . just trying to survive in the crowd.
PMs transfer of Ukraine out of their country into Bank Hands is means of blocking backdoor of EU, against Russia/China plans for Western civilization. Silk Trade Route revival via ports and pipelines and High Speed Trains . . . no wonder Tesla battery plants are coming to USA and we are fracking like crazy: bad clouds are coming our way?
I have to say respectfully, I do not believe the 'fix' is over.
I have mentioned on HL board that I bot some OMEX.
OMEX is now under attack by professional shorters (e.g. Meson).
Why would anyone take the time to attack a PM wreck recovery company?
My theory is some entity (powerful) does not want a net new hoard of PM bars and antique coins in hands of USA common folk. The court has mandated that the PM recovery from the sunken wreck, be turned over to U.S. Marshals. The ship was transporting Calif. stuff to eastern seaboard destination in 1857 and sunk in storm, outside USA territorial waters off coast of S.C. If you cannot buy farmland to rent out or live and farm product on . . . PMs and gems are about only other things that hold value for common folk to own.
My further rationale why the shorting is happening: PMs in all forms, have traditionally allowed citizens of a country to 'escape' the effects of induced stagflation (concurrent sector rotation inflation and deflation forces active at same time).
Every country that has shipped precious metals to USA and EU (think London and Zur-ick) . . . witness Venz, Iraq, Libya . . . has mysteriously had their PMs 'seized' in one form or another via a one-way only trip.
Germany is a little more geopoli powerful and strong man of EU, and has capability on its own to built nuclear 'devices' within 6-9 months (like Japan also). If Germany cannot get its own PMs back within 5 years from Wall Street and FED . . . one has to start thinking . . . wonder what is coming our way?
What if say Germany, for example, came over and directly bot some PMs from private USA owners? Think that could happen? Think that would look good in news? What if Russia sold some PMs to Germany?
Or Iran did? And, Germany told USA and London . . . its nothing you should be alarmed about? Check back in 5-7 years, if your really interested.
Meson . . . I am beginning to think his goal is to prevent this silver and gold form getting into common public hands. ?To this end, I foresee Meson is working for very large folks, that do not want net new PMs dropped into the market they wish to control (especially as antique valued coins)? This is a different cause-and-effect 'take' than most would go to, in their reasoning of WHY MESON? I am saying Meson is hired help. By whom . . . I have no info. Just a thought for the board to ponder.
These large hauls of PMs net new to the market . . . cause a disturbance in the void . . . to paraphase Star Wars talk. Ukraine is strongly rumored to have had to ship its Kiev based PMs abroad to satisfy (and back) IMF and EU and USA 'loans' to Ukraine (to keep it going). England had to ship Gold to USA to 'cover' lend-lease program to it, during and just before USA became involved in WWII. France refused to do it. The lose of the British PMs hoard as it was only way for Britain to 'pay' for lend lease . . . helped to destablize Pound Sterling and contributed to decline of England on world scene.
Germany (in the present) has requested the return of its gold from USA to itself. USA tells Germany it will take some years to get it back (did not take that long for Germany to ship to USA during Cold War conditions). Da!
Remember that USA government stopped USA citizens from holding USA gold coins (dollars) during depression, and forced our citizens to return them to USA Mint (where they were melted down . . . thus destroying their antique and daily trade value). We must ask ourselves . . . why would a government that strongly supports the 1% . . . want to prevent common folk from holding something (PMs and antique value trade coins), that would enable these same common folk to hold in their immediate possession, a means of maintaining value during stagflation times?
Back to OMEX stock price . . . I expect drop in price towards end of day . . . as surviving retail short sellers pull out, due to fear of weekend 'effects' on their positions. Wil we see stock price below current low achieved yesterday . . . I do not know.
I really do not think we see $1.00 (hope not, even briefly). I see this as way to 'twist' OMEX arm . . . and if any USA government PMs were transferred on the ship (?), will USA government 'step' on OMEX investors again? Stay tuned folks while we go to commerical!
OMEX, (IMO) should be able to catalog a 2st return of dive finds over the weekend, and have some brief PR statement to give out Monday? They might be allowed to just state that 2st find exceeded first find amounts, by court (that wants to control everything). My way of looking at this is someone with a lot more weight than South C. state court . . . is running things? I may well be mistaken in that view. Any comments?
I would say you are spot on with your comment on something is down there worth the effort, or OMEX would be gone. OMEX shows a few frames of more stuff down there and has got back more coins and bars, etc.; we should see more upward price movement. OMEX must be holding back on PRs until they have done most of the recovery work?
Might be done in less than six months on the salvage, and have moved on to next project recovery. It will take the courts, months to make a decision for treasure release. No one in government knows how to handle all this, as rarely happens. Everyone in bureaucracy must be careful, so they do not do a mistake and look foolish.
BOT a little more under 1.70.
On Y board, someone mentioned that OMEX finds are turned over to U.S. Marshalls . . . would that be true?
OMEX will be finished in next couple of weeks with survey if weather holds. If they bring back positive evidence of more treasury finds,
Meson will be covering (his job is done now). More samples surely coming back to port, to support another upcoming OMEX press conference?
One thing I do not understand is how U.S. Marshalls could take possession physically of wreck recovery . . . if finds have to have analysis and cataloged and cleaned and stored . . . they are going to stand over and watch that done also? Tax and Treaty of Seas requirement?
Unless something 'wrong' comes about . . . OMEX just did a big favor for its long holding retail investors. I may be incorrect . . . but sure looks like everyone got something out of this stock price fall.
No. Just my rough guessing of Probabilities chances to happen.
I may have left out some possibilities for ATIG.
As to effects of Splits/Inflation on producing my off top-of-head,
I approached it by having possible 100% range for each numbered prob.
I used no mathematical formula component plug-ins, I just shot-from-the-hip. I suppose I could of flipped a coin on each Prob. (Yes-or No)? I think I shall and see which is more accurate . . . me
guessing or The Force of random motion. The coin flip is 0% or 100%. One might say my guesses are fuzzy logical? <:)
Wouldn't it be interesting to assign 0%-50% to one coin side . . . and 51-100% to the other coin side . . . and extend the equation (attach into), a real basic prob. formula? Oh . . . oh . . .here comes the professor with his rule.
I expect nothing from ATIG . . . therefore anything will be grand.
Strange that ATIG did not declare BK . . . is there some hope left? A website active and a yearly PR . . . who ha!
ATIG should early on have moved to an off-shore corporate domain, and have used their money to launch a gambling computer into orbit, launcher piggy-backing. The first casino wireless gambling site from space. I suppose George would have ordered it shot-down, to save America from addiction? Might makes right, in space law? But imagine the PR effect on ATIG stock in its early days.
Adelson of NV . . . willing to spend Billions to buy/build a casino in Japanese coastal city. What . . . Chinese will come to Japan to gamble?
Problem for Indian Casinos: is the market expanding or has percentage of USA players willing to travel to casinos topped off?
Hello mobile online gambling! Embrace it or lose it to many others, coming soon to a state and town near you. ATIG is not the only way to online mobile.
Nice article.
Impressive.
Don't feel bad.
Lots of us here believed Mr. D and thought we would see say $1.00-1.25 (at least for a brief time). Recently, we have not topped $1, which kind of makes us all do the MOJO Shake.
Sure hoped we continue slowly up next week, as we keep approaching next earnings call. Or, does MCZ drop back into .50s and then climb again for earnings call?
I will buy more if it drops. Why?
My thought is Mr. D has a deal with either Fox conn and/or Amazon on the side and cannot tell us of it (right now}.
Those 1 mil plus days of shares mean something . . . we go up or someone is buying control of MCZ (and it are not Mr. D with his annual cost-of-living 'food stamps' from us retail investors).
My money thought is with Amazon . . . someone big is fronting production of all MCZ new mobile and play tech? MCZ hardly has present budget left able to pay its employees (along with Mr. D's hair buff jobs). I originally thought Fox Conn was our money savior. But looking more now like (to just me?) Ama-mama is using MCZ MOJO design and accessories, as a way cheap $$s involved ploy . . . to back up Kindle tablet. Can any of you imagine MCZ able to quickly get sales $$s cleared, and transferred, for production/shipping new supply to USA Amazon customers?
Fox Conn is actively building up new plant in Canada (a Free Trade into USA) and who would love to have their product physically produced/sourced from North America plant site?
What I see here for ATIG shareholders.
1. Something happens in next few months = prob 20%. I am being nice.
2. ATIG activates, does a Reverse Split = prob 30%+
3. ATIG goes private = prob 35%+
4. ATIG gets new financing + prob 20% (only we could hope)
5. ATIG gets BOT out = prob 20%
6. ATIG finds a partner = prob 35% (we should be so lucky)
7. ATIG 'dissolves' and moves to a new name stock company = prob 10% Is ATIG still a favorable nameplate or is it?
Reason Rationale WHY nothing gets done for years: Congress is out gathering up money and trying to smooth the home town voters and keep their mid-term seats. Using this logic . . . no online gambling federal bill until 2015 or 2016. Why hurry, right?
We will have to continue to look to states for action favorable to online paid gambling. Eventually one or more of the native tribes, breaks free and steps forward and makes a deal with their state government. New NV casino leadership viewpoint evolves, and sees new revenue possibilities for in-city Vegas casino controlled mobile gambling only, and allows NV state to float online electronic lotto and stratch (sp) tickets. NV casinos keep the sports and event online gambling rights + poker, etc.
Feel free to comment and attack my above, presented for discussion. Happy Mothers Day . . . they keep the world right.
This is a good board to read for investors like me (small).
An idea: why not have congress.etc. vote to bring back overseas ($2 Trillion USA multinational profits), to USA Tax-Free, IF multinationals agree to invest in new capital assets that hire USA citizens firstly?
Thus, you are saying new USA (current) strategy is to invest in Asian lands disconnected physically from mainland Asia? And, to use USA forces to guard and also help mine the oceans floor resources?
You, of course, noted the USA bases in upper Az-ie land? Practically empty lands full of resources . . . are attractive.
Dualism: USA multi-nationals continue their 'job' and bring home some bacon and rebuild the USA? Our debt starts magically disappearing? The wage taxes will help fund urban renewal (Chicago First alas Obomb does t he hood). Income connections will flow outward from the new plant builds and operations.
China succeeds . . . because it is the new frontier . . . but the 'frontier' can move. Russia . . . ah . . . the ever-ending love for the growing giant of unemployed on its border . . . looking north . . . to the hope for a new start and open land with resources . . . so connected to it. Russia has China . . . USA has . . . ? The North American Union (where our focus must be eventually). 1984 meets Blade Runner + Brazil + Terminator.
Back Room gaming foreshadows (when they are not in the B room dusting) . . . Ants and bio-Viruses win.
I am light on charting . . . some wedges . . . 52 week range relationships . . . basing behaviors, which I compare to a light reading of the geopolitical pulse possibilities. Pile this all on the glaringly obvious fundamentals deficits and a shallow and quick web of judgment composes. Then, I should flip a coin?
Whats the new step on Dancing with The S---- Options Flopping.
Or is it the Bubble?
Obomb basically met with the FED partners, from what I might surmise. Wonder what is up with that?
I cannot foresee USA able to endure a 'flash crash' even for one day right now. Plunge Protection Team would have to jump right in, right now and pull the plug. They are basically doing this anyway . . . witness GM starter switch debacle . . . extremely harsh and bad news . . . someone buys more GM stock and price is 'stabilized'. One has to wonder . . . who could collectively front that?
Better option: milk the rolling sector 'drops' . . . keep the Dow Face On and tap the ETFs up and down . . . The Rabbit Hole. When the Face books and Yelps of the electronic economy are turning off the key tappers . . .Houston. . . please repeat that last message.
Your argument hit the nail on the head: abuse of the reverse currency privilege.
That says it all. You only get one chance to do that?
Once they discover the wizard has no clothes . . . smoke and mirrors . . . we hardly can stand against the whole world rejecting us as being the leader role. This is what our initial forefathers understood, don't be the world's daddy. Just sell them toilet paper and shovels. And grow more 'trees'.
Let China (who really does not want it) take up the front of the parade role. China (and Russia) prefers the USA to fight the good fight for all . . . and ever so slowly tear ourselves to pieces . . . walking forward . . . looking through binoculars in the NWO arcade.
Certain groups sold our leaderships on the idea we can go on forever . . . threatening . . . why we also pit geopolitical blocs against each other. Problem that recurs throughout history . . . other folks figure out to surrender before they get it in the neck. Who wins in a bombed out town . . . zombies?
What we have seen is USA slowly stripped of its power structure to feed internationalism. What a dumb B-Grade Plot?
Excellent reply.
I am very small investor.
Just sitting mostly . . . on the sidelines.
Very confused as to why Congress ,etc. has not primped USA economy.
How far down are they willing to let it fall?
Perhaps the future of USA is information economy and service jobs.
Seems really stupid to me . . . we are struggling now with massive new citizens and green cards (I am being nice). Yellen of FED tells congress we have geopolitical problems affecting our money supply . . . really they are right here brought in-country . . . Da! Jobs now . . . or cuts in food stamps,etc. . . . FED is distracted (and when did FED have to do the job of congress)?
For example, all this talk of 3-D printing/manufacturing economy to restart USA and online economy merging, to create something new and wonderful . . . but no talk of how to motivate coming generations tolive in such an economy.
Still will need corporations like HL to find and supply raw materials to keep it all going. Either way it turns out . . . magic electroland or back to the past of rugged individualism . . . commodities will be necessary.
Congress is seemingly hardly active right now . . . focused on fund raising and coming mid-terms. Who is watching USA water supply, drought effect on crops, and coming another winter of discontent. SkyNet soon needed to run USA? Humans can't handle data input/decisions overloads. Forget nuclear warfare . . . we have info effect speed and no one minding the store . . . except folks born before computer age. Lawyers are not engineers nor product business producing folk. Writing a law 'necessarily' doesn't make it happen (think Prohibition).
I am trying to say HL stock price goes sideways until USA UP! is on the main plate, creating a demand in-country for its raw materials. I also am proposing USA consumers are tapped out and not focused now on buying custom PMs stuff, to wear with their 'I Will Work For Food Maybe' signs. We are either starting a recession again (in the real street world view below the skyscrapers), or are both the street people groups just con artists milking the cow, with no thought about tomorrow?
Will we need active congress stimulating economy (with administration), to promote HL stock price rise? For example, what is board's thoughts . . . on where HL PM output is going . . . overseas buyers or into FED/Wall Street bank vaults to become invisible? Maybe its just being kept by HL and optioned to highest bidder use electronically? Is HL positioned better than Germany and the Ukraine?
Cork mentioned that Lead output by HL . . . where is it going . . . China? Price a USA PB auto battery anywhere and its about doubled in last 2-5 years in price (retail). Everyone is basically selling
replacement auto batteries (do not know much about new stop-start-PB batteries coming in to car market and their prices . . . have to check that out). Stop-stats are coming in with 2015 models (start of their use)?
Russia leader is ex-KGB real James Bond . . . our Obomb is . . . street organizer turned lawyer. Russia has 2 huge cash crops (besides raw minerals exports and arms deals and grains). . . oil and gas.
McCain called them a gas station basically.
What is AZ but a sun ranch for tourists and artists?
AZ, of course, has great potential for solar farm exports to Texas grid.
Don't sell Russia short . . . intelligence and rugged people.
Many of their weapons systems are 1st class, though not having a huge spare parts backup. Russia has combat philosophy of gauging their weapons will not last beyond 10500 hours of direct combat exposure . . and we instead built ours to last for decades. Germany made our mistake in WWII . . . built fine polished tanks, etc. Russia built rugged, basic T-34 tank and lots of them.
FED does not want PM backed money.
China and all other nations trying to buy and store PMs to eventually sink USA $ and Euro, and as counter-tactic to offset their $ debt holdings risk. Russia drops some of their gold on the world market, sells Iran new high tech SAM systems, sells some of their USA T-Bills repeataedly, and USA and EU and Japan will feel the pinch. Small investors will panic. No one will win, but all will lose somewhat and push world directly into another recession.
Russia does not have to directly invade eastern Ukraine . . . just send in Special Forces to train and ambush Kiev forces (which have to be supplied from outside of Eastern Ukraine. Same problem USA had and has in Afgan Conflict. Russia supplies are right next door.
USA economy keeps faultering slowly down-ward . . . consumer demand for PMs (even as wareables) goes down . . . food and lites and gas and medical becomes more important.
We may see heating oil and petro dropping into fall season in USA, in attempt to primp our economy. That's about all the Congress will 'give' us, even in an election by-year.
Personally, hold some HL, yet not sure USA economy is going to help our commodity company up in price.
That'a quite a bit of short shares
Next OMEX site recovery step, lists at over $10 million and states more is being found and we might just get a short squeeze.
Thanks.
Meson is strange dude . . . why would he gamble on OMEX not getting huge recovery form wreck . . . he says his researchers have studied the facts . . . and nothing left down their worth the OMEX effort (basically).
Now USA IRS, says they will tax OMEX reoovery at standard tax rate for recovered lost and re found (and reclaimed) as if personal possessions? I am not tax expert nor accountant . . . but looking like anyone trying to reclaim original coinage as current relative of deceased, will have to prove original price of found coinage, etc. And, how could (would) they the modern heirs be able to provide proof which coin, etc. is from whom (and the amount they had taken aboard the 1857 ship in personal luggage . . . now rotted away)? This is all nuts to me.
OMEX will (at minimum) get its equipment use paid for . . . and wages of its crew, etc. paid and its suppliers. This will enable it to be able to go on to other wrecks and projects + the filming rights. Tax laws are making it really stupid to have your business (doing work outside USA territorial waters) registered as USA corporation location. USA government just comes down hard on you.
Perhaps OMEX will relist itself in some small country internationally, as its place of business HQs?
OMEX is trying to do honest work in its recovery from international waters . . . and everyone is pilling on its working back, as I presently see it. Why bring back recovery finds to USA soil . . . just sell on international market to collectors, etc.?
Rich buyers of recovery stuff have their own means of protecting their buys and profits?
USA government helps its 'ally' Spain to the previous benefits of a OMEX recovery effort (that Spain could not do by itself and initially 'lifted' from south america). Spain basically got the wreck recovery for free.
Makes one start to wonder how exactly we retail investors can come ahead on this. I guess we will watch and learn?
Big problem for us retail investors (apparently so far) is no one is jumping in on 'gold fever' scenario uptick.
Agreed with what you have posted.
Slow climb and we just sit back and wait for a potential short sneeze. Couple of more PR 'finds' of significantly more recovery stuff and we go up . . . just thought OMEX should be expanding its PR game net, to those who can't or won't have a stock account. The more folks involved in revenue streams to OMEX earnings frys more shorts . . . fish and chips!
Light PR effect so far.
I guess it will take some time for general public to get the 'gold wreck itch'. We should invite Sarah P. (ex-governor of Alaska) to drop out, Johnny Depp and Tom Cruise (those types of folks) for Entertainment Tonite coverage. They also have BIG $$s and might want to do a movie plot? Something about terror-boys and girls, attacking the Sea Explorer . . . get the Navy involved in the plot, seals and F-18 Hornets come to rescue.
So far C+ grade for OMEX PR staff.
That means in marketing/advertising/ TV class worth its salt . . . you didn't make it.
Wall Street where are you?
It will take a few days for this stuff to sink in . . . Gold!!
OMEX should have some hope of 'casino effect' betting by general public on record recovery.
If we are lucky . . . slow . . .steady built in stock price. Then, shoot-up for earnings. Perhaps we see $3-4 stock price range effect.
OMEX missing the boat on lotto prize contest with this.
Can't train um.
OMEX explorer vessel is on site of Colmb. ship wreck.
Should we have a favorable initial find from wreck brought up and displayed to press . . . before next earnings call . . . should see stock price pop? All OMEX has to do is show some stuff and coins and smile broadly and say 'we are on schedule and fulfilling our plan of recovery goals, step-by-step' . . . easy .25-.75 up effect. Meson should be watching closely, for recovery clues?
Get some female press to do interview and weather report on Explorer in swimsuits, and it will go live online and evening news? Daa!
Asians would love to see such . . . hmm PMs and . . . !
And good PR for a coming movie of recovery. Make a 'recovery burger special' with a fast-food chain and include a contest drawing prize coupon . . . for a few recovery coins to winners of such?
OMEX needs to take the cardboard box off and awake up to modern PR methods.
Women like bringing home the Gold!
Expand the new investors field?
Talk to a certain port of call state and get a state scratch ticket going with same concept as was mentioned above for fast-food chain wreck recovery coins as winner prizes. And, ask that state Governor to come-on-out and speak a piece on 'We-re USA business friendly and glad to assist such an innovating business venture!'
Nice article.
Energy (especially oil) is the real currency.
You can't 'hold' energy unless you have batteries, or oil tank in your yard or whatever. Buying solar cells is probably another way for individual or business to hold on to energy producer, which utilities and oil companies do not like. Forget the government subsidy of AT stuff, folks are scared of collapse and will buy/lease solar cells as actual physical value for energy as currency. Personally, I would chose to hold solar cells over gold
(even knowing solar cell output degrades over say 20-30 years to less than say 50% of its brand-new %eff output. Gold would still be gold, but the market will determine its resale or trade value.
Silver is maybe the better play as multiple uses (energy commodity) as coinage, electronics (like solar cells use). Without electronics, modern quantities of energy (think oil) cannot be produced and delivered.
Few folks have any reasoning ability anymore (nor accounting skills, includes me). But I do knows when 1 +1 =2. Buy only historical PM coinage ( for appreciation potential, regardless of marketing conditions). 9-11 coins (as example) are worthless, except in future when most have been re-melted and have been sold-off as a personal investment disaster. Someday, though, if humans still exist, 9-11 coins will be rare in numbers and will gain in value.
Most of us know to buy government historical PM coinage, as its certified. Private mint is hardly equal.
Gold can't follow Oil in value, unless one does figure in cost of oil products in getting the PMs mined, etc. Gold is a 'dream metal'. It does not rust. Its a commodity, but its value is stuff of fairy tales (you have to know its value to you and others). For example, art was one of its first uses. Then, it became reasonable to carry about for trade value.
Gold probably does not have any relationship to Oil, as its not used in its production (except in electronics). A bunch of nut investment houses have made it so (as something to be highly desired, for storing monetary value). I am not against gold.
Practically speaking, I just see no relationship to Oil, as one could produce oil without electronics (manual drilling and pumping). But, I am wrong about Gold and Oil relationship . . . as virtually everyone else 'sees' the relationship . . . because they are taught too. You do not need a pick made of gold to dig an oil tap hole in the ground.
The above was just for argument sake, as no one else would talk of such things. My thoughts were completely from an angle of looking from outside the Wall Street venue of whats valuable to their game: you must think paper (stocks) gold is. When citizens think value is paper they have become alienated from physical value. Another way to 'out-source' jobs as freedom enabling: who would ever want free citizens?
Imagine this: if gold did not exist . . . they would have to use another gauge to value things . . . so they can control them.
In the modern economy . . . the banker IS the worker . . . thus for them to have a daily profit as their job . . . gold must be electronic paper trade.
Really liked the article!
The above makes no sense to 'investors', as they have been schooled to believe otherwise: to play the stock game in the Wall Street Casino you HAVE to believe gold has somehow equal value to oil.
Back to HL:
The stock can have no value except as their is public (and investor) demand for it. the stock price can't go much lower without mines having to cut work-forces and close down some ventures. I do not see how this can be . . . and we should soon be seeing HL price going up . . . due to fear caused by developing Ukraine situation? Biggest dilema, is how to guess PM/Oil effect
relationship . . . in a low interest economy . . . where top 5% hold most of wealth and QE is backed off . . . will Russia
really cut EU off from petro (remember:big WWII factor for USA started by cutting petro supplies to Japan). More sanctions effect . . . who knows? Russia gets $100+ price for its oil from China . . . EU may be cut back as customer. EU, then, falls into recession. This is not much of a winning game plan for anyone, even if Russia continues to supply higher priced energy products through third-party pipeline routes to EU (inflationary).
Looking like day trading for .04-.06 spread.
A new base for MCZ around .60 . . . maybe.
Still no definitive news to back it up (stock price channel not yet
strong indicator).
Darren still doing fine . . . have not seen him on the street corner with a sign.
MCZ is in the right section (online gaming controllers and associated gear including decals) . . . carefully awaiting next earnings call. Millions of PS4 and Xbox One sold and potential for gear for older used platform sales . . . or did 'weather' and cautious, tapped-out consumer budgets . . . cause slow sales of MCZ product? Stay-cation USA home-ies jut might be the saving grace for MCZ sales?
MCZ needs to crowd-fund soon or do a private placement or stock reverse split or have a partner/buy-out? Or, The D will just have to take a pay cut and you all know that can't be. Lack of advertising budget (except Face Book-ing and You-Tube) is telling us something? Darren can't even get an interview any where.
Did Fox conn take MCZ MOJO idea and sell it around . . . MCZ has no funds available for contesting any Asian or whatever vendor 'lift'. Its actually doubtful MCZ has Asian patent (even design patent) on MOJO . . . at most MCZ has trademark, copyright, and design patent on MOJO packaging box, instructions, and the MOJO case in USA. Change the case design and sell Fox conn electronics and what do you have?
No talk of internal MCZ MOJO 'Trade Secrets' as way to defend against Knock-Offs.
WE sold wha . . . 2000-5000 MOJOs so far?
Next earnings call there might not be any indication given of what sales were, just stuff about 'we are set-up for coming holiday season' and 'excited to be in this position!'.
Some posters showed photos of MCZ label data on MOJO look-alike gear . . . what does that mea Is this a 'tease' PR for partnership already happening? Or . . . ? MOJO is basically a cellphone with some extra software code, attachments parts and enhanced video card?
I do like that idea and hold MCZ stock.
MOJO has huge potential for mobile online game/gambling device for low-end user-players. Why no indication of trying to reach out to casinos and in-state online bettors?
To current . . . not much evidence of MCZ MOJO unit sales talk or user comments? Competition is on the way for next holiday season.
Could shoot to over a $1 before next earnings and then drop way down.
If OMEX now has multiple-scan frequency upgraded search sonar radars on its recovery vessels, it should have been able to define the field distribution and general amount of small coins and gold bars,etc.; within the wreck and its surrounding area. It is my unprofessional opinion that any present coins, have not moved very far from the actual wreck. As to the potential of PM 'dusts' around the wreck . . . I suspose one would just pull up the sand around the wreck. Once the sub robot gets down there . . . it should be able to record bounce signals from said 'dust' dispersion fields and backup surface ship sonar radar imagery, with infrared or multi-spectral scanning and photographic imagery? Magnetic topography studies (metallic object readings) could also assist in finding cultural artifacts. OMEX (not us) should know within three weeks of setting up the search grids on site. I am hoping OMEX did an initial 'drive-by' scanning of the wreck site before they went to USA port, so that they could get together with everyone involved in port, and get a plan going. But do not know if OMEX did that. May have simply been impossible to do, as to local sea conditions and time schedule.
Some cheap robotic sub instrumented devices should have been developed for such initial 'drive-by' wreck grid studies, though I do not know if OMEX is such equipped. A company could then have a surface remote station that monitored a self-navigating search mini-sub that continued to search the wreck area, while OMEX went to port call. The surface remote data collector station, could also have surface radar and live video to tell who (if any) ships approached the search area. And, by placing some robotic mini-subs doing an initial wreck area grid development, OMEX personnel could work from port call. A rented seaplane or helio would be able to pickup any confidential data scan disks, from the remote surface station on-site. I really doubt though, that OMEX would do the above things, for monetary budget and security considerations. OMEX is probably too paranoid to have left any
of my latter suggestive grid search devices, on site and active?
It will take 2-3 months, before we retail investors get any info 'progress' PRs. Would OMEX need to wait until early 2015, to have full evaluation of its wreck recovery results, for public and we the willing investors?
We will learn somethings about how OMEX operates and does its filming and editing, for any movie materials. Might take way into 2015, to get a movie canned and ready for public viewing. Would you folks imagine some coin dealer(s) will be aboard the vessel, to gauge coinage values?
All the above is pure speculation (especially as to OMEX business plan results and the stock price movements).