Zivo Bioscience Inc (ZIVO) Message Board

Well it looks like ZIVO officially moved to the OTC ID tier today. No more delinquency flag for reporting on the OTC Markets site.
So looks like that's official at this point as long as they continue the disclosure requirements associated with that listing.

If anyone bothers to read through the annual disclosure filed ..... ZIVO lists a guy named Guillermo Navarro as CFO in keeping up with communications to investors .... LOL.

Otherwise it dont say much.
Another disclosure is due by end of week for the 1st qtr.

Amigo Mike

Welp Gwinner,

Believe it or not ..... there actually was an update.

https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/ZIVO/disclosure

It looks like ZIVO over last couple days starting to file the disclosures that I think are necessary to keep the stock from dropping to the pink sheets and to maintain an OTCID listing. That is good news IMO. One of the items I have on my list to be cleared up.

Amigo Mike

You have to wonder what maggiore and Yaldoo thinking knowing the money they sunk into this turd the last 15 years could have been 10X higher with any number of blue chip tech stocks. Painful.

Its Okay ZIVO, you tried real hard again this week to give us shareholders an update...Going to happy hour lil early today :)

Only issue with that is there isn't any meaty news or we would have heard about it already.

I have several things I want to hear from ZIVO.

Starting with what is the expectation for the listing and reporting. IMO, that is still overhanging the stock.
CFO ?
Coccidiosis ?
What about other unnamed product validation test with unnamed global animal pharma ?
Avian Flu ?
Where's the Michigan grant prior mentioned ?
Algae business news ?
Caaaaaasssssshhhhhhhhhh flooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww .................
How funding the company? We saw Strome purchase. Have others done same ?
etc etc etc

Amigo Mike

Buyers seem to be surfacing...but no open buy orders yet lol
We could use a meaty news article on zivo right about now...

Seems like we are taking the day off today on ZIVO
Maybe eod buyers come back :)

You only need a 600% increase to sell where you could have sold last year.

Nice close! Maybe news soon?????????

The trading "tone" has certainly shifted this week. Where is Mr Seller ? Seems to not have come in to work today.

Of course that all could change in a millisecond ..... but nice change at least for now.

Amigo Mike

Damn autocorrect got me. The prediction of $10 was for end of May.

Amigo Mike

Oh so you were in my way of 1.20 last week eh ? Only got that 500. Was fishing for more but didn't give it to me.

Now stocktwit clown calling for $10 by 3nd of May.

And weazel this stocktwit guy is a clown who bashed the stock for ages. He has no following. Hes just a long time pissed off bag holder. He's getting his info 2nd hand talking to others who are talking to mgmt. If course mgmt isn't going to talk stock price numbers .... but honestly wouldn't shock me to see the price rise. To what number is the question of course.

Amigo Mike

We all Loveeeeeeeeee Market Buy Ordersssssssss on thinny stocks...
I was small Bid support yesterday at $1.40 since all my 1.20's didn't get filled last week
It's been an interesting week so far so hopefully news around corner...

LOL,

Did someone put in a market buy order ?? LOL.

The ask side of this thing was looking VERY VERY thin earlier today.
But I will say .... just my perception at the moment .... the seller comes to play for most of the day but usually packs up and goes home before 3 PM EST.

Kinda has that look today with someone trying to buy late.
Potentially news in the wind ??

Amigo Mike

lmao...they must be in here reading my posts.

They started doing the very thing I say in my "PS" almost as soon as I posted it...trying to create the liquidity themselves. but notice, no volume is going off with it...they are just moving up their bid creating the illusion of price increase. 😂😂😂😂💀💀

This is ALL of the volume that went off to drive the price from 1.53 to 2.07...

Don't get your hopes up...

Based on Mike stating someone on StockTwits is pumping this...that's likely where all this volume is coming from. And guess what, as soon as they stop and/or their volume dries up because it doesn't "move up" like they think...ya, watch them trip all over each other to get out with no liquidity. lol

I was contemplating getting back in until I heard that...now, gotta let them puke on themselves first. 😂

PS- unless they can REALLY get the volume cranked up and create the exit liquidity themselves. No idea who it is, don't follow that crap anymore.

Looks like a few nice size Buys going across today!

Was just doing a bit of research on the outstanding and fully diluted number.

There were roughly 2.3 million warrants and options outstanding last year (YE 2024) .... probably a few more than that.

But in essence about 1.2 million in outstanding registered and unregistered warrants.
Looking at the last 10k from 2024 ..... 675K+ outstanding unregistered warrants. Of those by current date, the vast majority of those have or are about to expire .... leaving an estimated 275K warrants mostly owned by Armistice Capital (249k)

Registered warrants are the publicly traded warrants which encompass 495K shares. Those expire pretty much expire in a week or so.

So in total ...... the ~1.2 million in outstanding warrants since the 2024 10K are down to about 300K remaining assuming the public warrants are not extended. I'm sure some new ones were issued with 10% coverage on some of the 2025 private placements but not many. So for a company with only 4 million shares out, dropping close to 900K warrants for the potential dilution pool is alot.

The Options total ~1.1 million and is tied to mgmt incentive awards that have a longer time period and aren't going away soon.

But overall ALOT of warrants have or will be shortly dropping off the fully diluted number. Stock price going to reflect that ? Prolly not. =)

Buyers seemed to lap things up today. Kinda surprised more stock wasn't offered and I think it closed with the high ask of the day. Let's see what the rest of the week brings.
Amigo Mike

Buyers seem "willing" to step up more aggressively so far this morning.
Be interesting to see how long it lasts and whether sellers keep providing supply. Some size at 1.40.

Personally if I'm a buyer I wouldn't chase it up the ladder cause I don't have a reason to own it beyond speculating at this point. Still too much unknown.
Amigo Mike

Mike- "hidden size" and orders crossing that are double or triple what daily volume has been for over a year (prior to this recent time period) are not normal is my point.

This morning the orders are more transparent, but judging from your comment...let's see if it stays that way.

The "hidden size" ..... is also common. You certainly don't want to show your size intent if you don't have to when either buying or selling.
When I can .... I almost never show my real buy or sell side intent for certain stocks.

Of course I don't have a crystal ball ... but 1.20 area seems to be an equilibrium point for now.

And wow .... buyers to open. Some of that likely from a literal "twit" on stocktwits who after bashing the company endlessly .... is now bullish.

Amigo Mike

Nice Bid line up this morning :)

I too made a few small purchases last week and was surprised that the 1.20 held when it was only showing 100 to 200 shares at the Ask. I would have thought it would have closed higher since the percentage of Buy's on Friday were over 90%

I understand all of that...

My original post/point was surmising the plausibility that someone(s) are exchanging shares on the open market given the constant hidden "sizeable" action (term used loosely and relative to prior action) around 1.20 last week.

We'll see if that continues this week.

And I dont have an issue with it. Wouldn't expect open market purchase.

He's funding the company. He's been funding the company. More or less continuing his support even with the stock tanking as it has. Cause if stock goes to zero or stock disappears, equity is lost.

Wouldn't be shocked if others also provided funding. Sez to me that he knows more than we do.

I get the point of "dilution". But anyone here has option to buy the stock and maintain your ownership % if you are inclined to do so. And as i mentioned couple posts back, unless ZIVO decides to extend the public warrants, there will be more than 500,000 potential shares falling off the fully diluted number within days. I have to go back and look but believe there are other warrants / options falling off the FD ledger as well. Perfectly fine by me. Is stock gonna rise cause the FD number actually gonna fall ? LOL nobody's watching the close and isnt a reason to buy for where this company is.

Up to the individual to decide when is right.
I toe dipped with fun money on Friday not knowing the insider purchase happened. I may continue to do so depending on the action and any potential new information.

Amigo Mike

That's not open market though, that's more dilution through securities agreement with company.

And SEC filing just now. LOL.

Form 4 filed Strome bought 100,000 shares at $2 earlier this week.

https://ir.zivobioscience.com/sec-filings-email/content/0001213900-26-047650/ownership.html

Amigo Mike

Someone appears to be buying the $1.20 level.

It's flattened for a few days. It of course could continue to decline for sure. It's already made money so just tossing a few at it to see what would happen. I don't usually buy the ask on this stock either but went and did it as a little test since bid was at 1.19.

Agree chartwise looking very similar to ;ate 2023 and more downside is certainly possible. Purely speculative move on my part and a token buy. Nothing of substance at this point in time. That bounce after the low in 2023 was MASSIVE and certainly took advantage. Not saying that will happen again ..... but as we all know, gotta have skin in the game in order to play. =)

Amigo Mike

Ha! I was just coming here to say...after watching action this week...it is entirely possible "someone's" are exchanging positions on the open market knowing they aren't required to file any Forms. It would be the only thing that explains the constant "sizeable" prints coming across with nothing ever showing on the bid or ask.

This is also pure speculation on my part.

Have not added anything to my flyer, yet. Daily chart is literally repeating 2023 move at this point...see if I get the same opportunity. 🙂

Minor nibble .... 500 shares @ 1.1983 3:36PM Offer didn't move.

Pure speculation and just fun money.

Amigo Mike

It appears the company has once again gone dark after promising more communication.

Why haven’t you sent an e-mail to grandpa asking him to confirm?

Gwinner,

That's one of the issues here. Mgmt is failing to communicate publicly on where they intend to land for the public listing.

Just because they would not be complying with SEC reporting any more does not necessarily mean "pink sheets". IMO that is another horrifically bad move if that happens. As noted previous, and OTC listing can be maintained at OTCID level if the company does basic disclosures and meets basic requirements that keep it off the pink sheets. Don't need to be SEC reporting compliant to maintain that listing.

That is one reason I have not started buying the stock yet. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. And I'm not even sure this stock turns back upwards on whatever news might be in the pipeline for the algae sales. Alot depends on what that is as well.

Amigo Mike

Unfortunately, we all know things get real ugly has this converts to the Pinky's so my guess we have another 30%-40% drop coming

Cheaper today !

The stock is calling me but still resistant to pulling the trigger.

Funny thing is .... if you took Payne's shareholder letter and just took out the part about dropping SEC reporting ..... I would think everyone would have a very different view and be expecting whatever news is coming much more favorably. Stock wouldn't likely be in the $1 range either.

What's really materially different from a couple weeks ago when the stock was $10 and Payne said ZIVO anticipates being CF+ soon ??? Company reports can still be disclosed. Otherwise ... not much.

Amigo Mike

Brutal. As always Zivo leadership doing their job and building confidence in the stock

Extending the warrants lol. How big are your bags?!?

My guess you will be able to buy shares much cheaper...

Could happen, but will require a new CEO. If you go way back, the company had competent leadership with Howard Baer and this traded a lot higher. Maybe someday.

I mean...c'mon...

The number of my past posts that have literally used the wording: "ZIVO is a lottery ticket" or "Same as it ever was" or "Until/unless they PROVE it, this time is not different", etc etc etc going back over the years and years and years here is such a high percentage of my posts, it's dumb.

I mean, I even said THE DAY they announced going to the pinky's...that sub $1 was likely plausible.

Unfortunate it's taken what it's taken to get folks to listen and understand. C'est la vie.

Someone had 3800 shares offered at 1.69 that was calling to me.

But couldn't bring myself to do it at this point. I'm sure other investors feel the same way.

The pattern is seemingly 6-8K shares per day getting offered. Only a few more weeks left before the public warrants will expire as well ..... unless ZIVO decides to extent them.

that offer appears to be gone now.

Amigo Mike

LOL Yep I know Tony but I'm a HOGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got plenty other winners....Someday I'll get my win here! :)

I'll say it again.

THIS ALWAYS WAS A LOTTERY TICKET. That is why Weazel and I have been telling folks they need to cover their ass ..... for literally 20 years. Andtake advantage of price movement when it happens. This company HAS NEVER BEEN "invest"able ... i.e. "investment material". It has never done anything remotely close to what might be considered normal business activities. Never .... ever.

If that isn't understood .... folks are playing the wrong game. Only AFTER this company proves something and executes meaningful revenue generating activities ...... could it even remotely be considered "invest"able.

Sadly after more than 2 decades ...... It still remains to be seen whether that will happen or not.
Amigo Mike

Grandpa shared his e-mail address. Send your questions to him.

This was already sub $1 and then went above $20. The lottery already hit and you didn’t cash out.

Yeah, my guess once this hits pinks we are sub $1 unfortunately.
Its a becoming a lottery ticket anymore unfortunately...

IMO ..... I am now looking at the possibility of picking off shares.

Again mgmt is FAILING in the communications dept. Never ceases to amaze me how poor the communcations are with this company and they never get any better.

Quite honestly I had my "stink bid" in place early on after the SEC news at $2 ... but as I have been watching .... I pulled that bid ..... and it really wouldn't shock me if this thing drops below $1 again in lieu of no news. I like the CYAN news cause it would seemingly indicate more news coming ..... and they did basically what they previously said ....... but at same time it just did not hit the mark for information that investors need.

The market cap on this thing is now less than $8 million. If you believe there is ANY level of value to the IP and algae, $8 million is silly ridiculous. Even more so if this company magically turns around and reaches cash flow positive (as they have stated) in the near future. Not to mention whether you think the molecule is a novel therapeutic for inflammation.

But right now, IMO .... first issue to address is WTH is the company's intention for public listing going forward ? The investing public needs to know because some investors CAN'T OWN pink sheets stocks. There is a tier of OTC Markets called the OTCID ...... one step above pinks ... that does not require SEC compliance .... but does require alternative disclosures to be filed along with some other basic items. Basically the same type of qtrly and annual reporting that is not as robust as that of SEC reporting .... but reporting nonetheless. I believe ZIVO needs to state it's intended target listing to help investors understand what they intend to do. They are late on the annual report for 2025 which is reflected on their current OTC Markets listing .... WHICH IS NOT HELPING THINGS.

Then of course ... we need to see the news on whatever this algae deal is that CYAN was brought on board to put the production in place. Then we can evaluate the size and scope of that deal and decide further from there what value might to come from it.

Coccidiosis ...... are we in / out / still plugging away .... WTH is the situation ?
Avian Flu ..... U of Georgia on it. Ok .... and ?

Amigo Mike

Question of the day, week, etc.......How low will it go??

Wow Weazel,

Mighty kind of you. But I wouldn't waste time with the riff raff. Mine looks like your except just 3 transactions .... buys in the .60s and 1 sell at $12.50 for 20 bags to cover cost and pull back even more .... and the rest just rides and don't matter if it goes to zero. And those transactions are already detailed on this board so don't need to post it again as were yours.

Anyway ... someone had bid for 4k out of the gate and it was filled in whole to start the day. Wondering if $2 is going to hold as it seems some buyers willing to step up there.

We still have negative listing stuff coming with the listing change in lieu of not enough public information from Payne to understand what's next. I happened to notice that CYAN actually did this same thing a couple months ago (i.e drop SEC compliance). So wouldn't shock me if that's where ZIVO got the idea. CYAN just filed a number of disclosures needed to maintain the OTCID (the new pink sheet listing) listing over the last couple days. Investors need to better understand what ZIVO's plan is in that regard cause we certainly don't want the stock to fall to the "expert listing" which basically makes it no longer tradeable via normal retail channels and have to call a broker for quotes and trades. No Bueno if that happens. The requirements to maintain the basic listing is not much so hopefully they are going to make that happen .... but the company needs to COMMUNICATE.

Amigo Mike

Can we all at least agree grandpa has been an absolute disaster as CEO?