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gotmilk

05/01/03 12:59 AM

#23534 RE: mlsoft #23531

"...the new [iHub Filter] setup."

Golly mlsoft,

While my writing skills are below average, my reading is above,
and after reading your post 3 times, i'am clueless on what you
know you wrote, but what you wrote to me is not what you knew.

Anyway, you have touched on a possible future enhancement
for iHub's Filter feature. Currently it is an On/Off type ignore
of another person's postings with that extra layer to filter out
posts from people you do not have on filter, but do so when
they post to the person you have on filter.

On this board i'am sure some have already mentioned that
while they want to ignore certain folks, they also don't place
all filtered people in the same degree of "to ignore."

From this iHub could eventually add another option that while
it may not be directly linked to the filter code, it may serve the
same purpose if the results were focused.

For example, you have gotmilk on ignore plus posts to him.
But you hear mentioned in a post between two people you
do not have on ignore, that he posted the secret ingredient
that makes Krispy Kreme Donutes taste extra special good.

So now imagine that you can click into gotmilk's iHub Profile,
and along side the Read Last 50, of which i wonder
what happens if you did it while he was on Filter,
but there was another Read Last 50 type option that is NOT,
i repeat NOT related to Filter, but will display the last 50 posts
that this person made to you, if any. Ofcourse BobZ could
eventually expand this as follows:
Read Last 50 this iHub member made to [___] (default is you)

If any of this rings a bell or dongs a gong, or is it gong a dong?
then please submit to the iWish board To: Darth
#board-1312
The New iHub Wish List (NEWWISH)
This board is a new place to keep track of bug reports,
suggestions, and other ideas for making iHub a better place.
... purpose of this board is for everyone to be able to voice
their ideas and thoughts, and I'll get clarification where needed
and compile a weekly list to present to Bob, and track a schedule
for estimated completion dates and occasionally report those...
Regards,
Darth (written by her dad...

doug
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Tatari Gami

05/01/03 1:46 PM

#23583 RE: mlsoft #23531

mlsoft

I agree with you on this.

I have about twenty people filtered, not because I don't like them, just because they add too much meaningless noise for me to scroll through. Every now and then, though, I want to read a filtered post that someone replied to. This used to work, but now it doesn't.

Also, I noticed that your post shows that you replied to "None" rather than to Matt. So, he may not find your post until he reads through everything. In any event, I think this is one for Bob, since he made the change to the filters.




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Mattu

05/01/03 1:48 PM

#23584 RE: mlsoft #23531

MLSoft, I have not replied because I'm not in tune as well with how filtering works in comparison to Bob. I'm sure he'll reply here.
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Bob Zumbrunnen

05/01/03 4:24 PM

#23586 RE: mlsoft #23531

The change was made because a lot of people told me "the problem with filtering" and "the reason we can't behave ourselves and want to move to another site" is specifically that if they hit the number link on Favorites showing the number of new posts written, and the first of those posts was from someone they had filtered, they were seeing it.

The only way to address this was to change the routine that does one-at-a-time message reading. Specifically, if it tries to land on a post that is filtered out either because it was written by a filtered person, or it was written *to* a filtered person and you've got that extra level enabled, it'll pull up the next non-filtered post on that board.

So now if you've got filtering enabled, there're fewer ways to see their posts. If you've got people filtered, they're filtered. If you don't, they're not. No more of the "Well, they're filtered unless such and such happens".

Filtering is pretty absolute now. Either the posts are filtered out or they're not.

Personally, when I'm testing filtering and therefore need to toggle it on and off quickly and easily, I keep a separate window open on the My Filters page.

I suppose one solution would be to add yet another "level" of filtering that would allow you to see "filtered" posts either because they're the next one up when you're on Favorites or because someone gave you a link to them, or because they were written to you and appear in your MailBox, but I'm not willing to implement that. The levels of filter-testing and the number of unique queries they require are already at the maximum level of complexity and server workload I'm willing to live with.

Would making the toggling of filters a lot easier solve the problem? I'm thinking along the lines of a new button right below the top menu, that would change back and forth between "Filters On" and "Filters Off".