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Bob Zumbrunnen

04/22/03 3:52 PM

#22998 RE: Corp_Buyer #22996

What say you when we get down to the real issue?

I say that it's mine and Matt's site and it'll be run the way we decide it should be run. I'm not going to get into discussions with you about increasingly intricate minutae of definitions and why we run the site as we do.

We just do.

By your definitions, you've been more than a little bit of a "crapper" right here on this board.

Just accept that this site is what this site is and that we will in no way force you to put up with the negatives of it as you perceive them. You are in complete control of your mouse and keyboard.

You really should learn to be selective about your battles.
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Mattu

04/22/03 3:56 PM

#22999 RE: Corp_Buyer #22996

Corp,

I don't know about these various definitions of people -- crappers, bashers, crackheads, whatever -- I still don't know the true definition of a pumper/touter/basher/trasher. Bottomline: It's all subjective based on the person reading.

However, I do understand when I need to suspend someone.

And that's when they break the rules of the site TOU, that we have lived by for several years now. Am I saying they are perfect? No. They have often adapted as needed.

I have no problems naming names. Bob is probably talking about spree. He's in Jail and is being dealt with for what he did. "Once" is the center of this discussion. He's detested by many. He also follows the rules. So, to get rid of him, you must either refute him to death or ignore him. We offers ways to do both. Your choice. I will not boot anybody, no matter what you call them, until they break the rules of the site.

True "crappers" or whatever you want to call them don't last long. They break the rules and are toast. I don't even remember the last figure on the number of folks I've terminated. I know it's in the thousand plus range.

The beauty is, everybody has an opinion of the guy. Believe it or not, I have people that write me that enjoy Once's commentary and feels he points out interesting things that folks like Mickey Britt don't. And the further beauty is Uncle Bob has given you all the tools to filter out or debate with whoever you want.

MB


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WTMHouston

04/23/03 1:26 PM

#23030 RE: Corp_Buyer #22996

And as to the deficiency in the TOU in that it does not distinguish between welcome naysayers and unwelcome crappers - do you agree? will it be addressed? how will you draw the line?

Classic straw man argument; begin with a false premise (that there is a deficiency in the TOU) and then proceed to criticise others for not addressing or solving it.

However "you" define it, read their lips (or the web between their fingers), "crappers" who do not violate the TOU are welcome on every board on IHub, however anyone decides to define "crappers."

The difference you seek to hook them with (and the one they have been quite controlling in not biting) is content. Thankfully, this site does not limit content that is civil just because others do not like it, find it frustrating, or wish to label it as "crappy." Frankly, you are pissing in the wind to think that any argument you make is likely to convince them (or the vast majority of those who use this site) to start editing and controlling content beyond the TOU.

Edit -- the fact that the word "crappers" is not part of the speel chucker ought to make things real clear.