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rosebud05

12/27/08 11:30 AM

#56916 RE: P2O I'm from MO #56909

How can you state CRAM is the first to market when it has not been shown to be marketed and it obviously will not be the only one as another has appeared before it?i]

Talk about being selective. While EFFC was spending most of the past year and half in R&D, all biocog was doing was fighting off lawsuits from Bruno/Gib, filing for bankruptcy, and imposing one injunction after another with no merit til finally they admitted that they have no case by not even showing up to defend themselves in May. So While EFFC and CRAM has been traveling the world educating and promoting this device in some of the most influential conferences in the world, what exactly was Caroni doing other than those documented above? That is not how one typically defines the concept of "marketing".
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rosebud05

12/27/08 11:43 AM

#56917 RE: P2O I'm from MO #56909

You can always tell a fake (SDS) from real (CRAM) by noticing how much is being done researching and refining its product as evidenced by modifications being made both in terms of software and hardware. While EFFC is even working on its software to extend its utility to even Drug/Alcohol related reduced vigilance settings and constantly experimenting with different physical apparatus (I have seen at least 5 variations of them), biocog has the gall to still show that old SDS with that stupid guy in bed and happy face sign. Even their cheap web site has not been worked on this entire year. That is not what I call R&D.

Where is their "marketing" presence then? Show links please.