Replies to post #441716 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[blackhawks]

I'll give fuagf an easy start to his 'board day' by answering on his behalf. False equivalence implies that there is such a thing as equivalence. Also both are qualities that you know when you see them, based upon reason and information and sometimes just the gut response 'wait a minute, that doesn't sound right'.........based upon reason and info.

You'll note that when I and others go off on B4 we do it by demolishing his false equivalence with factual examples as to why there is not equivalence between the two Parties based upon examples of what they've done or not done. And of course we're still waiting for the 'done good' examples for the GOP.

I don't have any evidence that there are good and bad detention centers so I'll say that both govts are culpable for an execrable system. Similarly I can't defend the 'Solid South' of the Dem Party of de jure segregation, the Klan, lynching's and pre-Civil Rights Bills.

They fled the party en masse with the passage of those Bills and the courting of their new GOP membership through the Southern Strategy, since apologized for by a GOP party chairman but still de facto when people such as Trump liken white supremacists to 'fine people'.

In a similar vein the GOP is no longer the Party of Lincoln and one votes for a party based upon what it is now.

Do you see a false equivalence between the two govts - conservative and liberal that oversaw the detention centers over their many years?

....how do you choose with your vote?

[fuagf]

I'll leave the detention center and equivalence bit blackhawks' dealt with for another post. Same for the video which i'll
watch later today. Or tomorrow. That of yours is a fraction gish gallopy so will only address some of the top bit in this post.

"Wife immediately challenged me with left brain right brain stuff when I said .. honey, here's a good one for my feelings about that movie last night. (her video below ;)
I think it means that rationality is limiting your ability to.. I don't know.. do the trippy stuff ;).
Of course brain science is science and rational.
Maybe another paradox.. not sure."

The brain, yes, for me has long been our most interesting and fascinating organ. No denying it's importance.

The brain is the most complex part of the human body. This three-pound organ is the seat of
intelligence, interpreter of the senses, initiator of body movement, and controller of behavior.
https://www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/public-education/brain-basics/brain-basics-know-your-brain

That sums it's potential offerings more cogently than i would have. To your right-left brain stuff, which i agree always been interesting too. As far as i understand though, over the past few years, some brain research at least has moved on somewhat from it. One here posted 2021:

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Was right into that for a time and really felt sometimes i was able to be in the dream ..
https://www.healthline.com/health/what-is-lucid-dreaming .

At least on waking i thought i had been. Was never certain if it was true and had been, or was just creating the idea i was there.

When very young i used to have that common dream of falling and waking up just before hitting whatever bottom.
Back then i used to work on, while in the dream, not waking up. Some said back then that was good for you.

LOL i remember feeling it worked. That i was really happy to be so involved in some dreams. And as you concentrating waking up at a certain time. Not sure why i stopped playing with all that.

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72 Amazing Human Brain Facts (Based on the Latest Science)

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Even experts agree that there is more that we don’t know about the brain than we currently do know.

In recent years, our knowledge of the brain has exploded, with most of what we know about the brain having been discovered in the last 15 years. (1)

It seems that it takes an average of 17 years for a new medical discovery to become a mainstream idea. (2)

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Human Brain Facts by the Numbers

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29. Brain cells cannibalize themselves as a last ditch source of energy to ward off starvation. (37)

So, in very real ways, dieting, especially low-fat diets, can force your brain to literally eat itself! (38)

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33. The popular myth that we use only 10% of our brains is flat-out wrong.

Brain scans clearly show that we use most of our brain most of the time, even when we’re sleeping. (44)

34. There is no such thing as a left-brain or right-brain personality/skill type.

We are not left-brained or right-brained; we are all “whole-brained.” (See #33)

35. In spite of what you’ve been told, alcohol does not kill brain cells.

What excessive alcohol consumption can do is damage the connective tissue at the end of neurons. (45)

36. The “Mozart effect” has been debunked.

While listening to certain kinds of music can improve memory and concentration, there’s nothing unique about listening to Mozart. (46)

How Music Affects the Brain

37. You may have heard that we have more brain cells than there are stars in the Milky Way, and while this is a beautiful sentiment, it is not true.

Best-guess estimates are that we have 86 billion neurons while there are 200-400 billion stars in the Milky Way. (47)

38. It’s often said that there are 10,000 miles of blood vessels in the brain when, actually, that number is closer to 400 miles. (48)

Still, a substantial amount!

39. Contrary to the prevailing medical belief, having high total cholesterol is not bad for your brain. (See #5)

In fact, high cholesterol actually reduces your risk of dementia. (49)

40. Until recently, it was a “fact” that you were born with a set level of intelligence and number of brain cells that could never be changed.

But it has since been discovered that your brain has the capacity to change throughout your lifetime due to a property known as brain plasticity.

The brain can continue to form new brain cells via a process known as neurogenesis. (50)

It was once thought that the brain recorded memories like a camera, but this is not how memory works.

Rather than being discrete recordings of experience, memory-making is more akin to the creation of improvisational jazz.

https://bebrainfit.com/human-brain-facts/

2021 - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=160635396
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Also, agree logic and rationality may be limiting. Whoever knows how much maybe, and/or for sure. Openness to new ideas is important. The ability and interest in trying new things must be valuable. To learn to understand ourselves and others better from personal experience i think has to be useful too. Guess, gotta give our unconscious some play too. This little experiment of mine went somewhat to that. Repeat:

The only time i had a fair dinkum hallucination was when i was clean as a whistle ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=54455553 .
That experience gave me full understanding of how people can get themselves
into such mental states that they actually believe they see things that aren't there.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171640907

One limiting factor for sure is becoming set in some beliefs. Believing we know can be very limiting. Rumsfeld (h/t again sortagreen fcr the reminder it wasn't Cheney) was onto something with his unknown unknowns.

Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_unknown_unknowns

Will get to some of that other stuff later. Cheers.