Replies to post #426697 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[blackhawks]

Idiot, 'the other side' is known. We continue to hear it daiy in a combination of 'stop the steal' and the conspiracy theory crap in 2000 Mules.

McCarthy had his chance and he blew it. Do you really imagine you would have seen rational, fact based, questioning from the likes of Gym Jordan, Matt Gaetz or pick your own red hot dickhead from many?

There is way too much testimony of people who were with Trump, too much video and too much audio to dispute what happened and who did or did not do what. There is NO other side of what has been documented. Period.

So denial of what happened has been soundly rebutted. We're just establishing culpability and the proud Boys are doing a good job testifying about what Trump wanted them to do.

Trump lied about not watching the insurrection on TV, too many people have testified that that was exactly what he was doing.

I say there is zero chance that there won't be criminal referrals coming from this committee.

[BOREALIS]

[DesertDrifter]

begins today once again showing only one side of the arguments.

Yes, the republican side. Virtually all witnesses are members of the tr**** crime family and/or members of his administration. That way it cannot be argued that it is his political opponents taking him down, it is his corrupt allies doing so by their testimony.

[sortagreen]

It's not a trial, bitch. It's an investigation. And it's informational only. Trials are currently happening elsewhere.

If you fucking pieces of shit wanted to participate in the hearing, you had an invitation.

Fuck you, traitor.

[rooster]

They don’t like truth here

[fuagf]

livefree_ordie, Such a fucked up post should be deleted on sight. However, being the generous souls that we are look at the accommodating bunch of replies you have received. Seriously. Why do you continue to imprison yourself in your misinformed and deluded world? For a guy who claims to be a livefree... you are letting yourself down. I'm not having a go at you here, just.... to your post. Is it you get so emotionally involved in creating your nutsy word salads that you miss so much of the articles you visit. And the link ...ordie, the link! Or rather the the links!! At first look you seem to have included bits of two articles in there. LOL Memories of what conix used to do before she finally woke up as to just how inconsiderate and unacceptable those posts of hers were.

Here you go, the first article you were on, in full: Jan. 6 Panel Reschedules Final Hearing as Key Questions Remain Unresolved

The committee, whose work has mostly faded from view since it wrapped up a summertime series of hearings in July, is toiling to conclude its investigation and recapture public attention.


The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol will have another hearing, possibly its last, next week. Kenny Holston
for The New York Times

By Luke Broadwater

Published Oct. 6, 2022Updated Oct. 13, 2022, 1:47 p.m. ET

All links

WASHINGTON — The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol has rescheduled its next and potentially final hearing for Thursday, Oct. 13 at 1 p.m., when it will attempt to refocus the country’s attention on former President Donald J. Trump’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election and the continuing threat that election deniers pose to American democracy.

Representative Bennie Thompson, Democrat of Mississippi and chairman of the committee, said last week he expected the hearing to be the panel’s first without live testimony from witnesses. But he promised the committee would present new revelations about the Capitol riot and the events that led to it.

“We still have significant information that we’ve not shown to the public,” Mr. Thompson told reporters on Capitol Hill.

The hearing, which Mr. Thompson had previously said would be the panel’s last barring unforeseen revelations, was postponed abruptly last week as Hurricane Ian bore down on Florida.

The rescheduled session will come as the committee, with only months remaining in its work, still faces many significant unresolved issues .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/us/politics/jan-6-committee-hearing.html . It still must decide whether to issue subpoenas to Mr. Trump and former Vice President Mike Pence, a possibility that appears increasingly unlikely with each passing day. Members must weigh whether to enforce subpoenas issued to Republican members of Congress who have refused to cooperate .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/26/us/republicans-jan-6-subpoenas.html .. with their inquiry, when to turn the investigative files over to the Justice Department and whether to make criminal referrals.

Trump and his cohorts have refused to cooperate with the committee from the beginning.

The panel also must reach a consensus on what legislative recommendations to make. And perhaps most daunting, its staff must still deliver a comprehensive written report that lawmakers had hoped to complete and release well before next month’s midterm elections, but whose publication date has slipped repeatedly, placing that self-imposed deadline in serious doubt.

The hearing now scheduled for next week is expected to focus on Mr. Trump’s central role in attempting to overturn the 2020 election and to look toward continuing threats against American democracy.

“We face a clear and present danger from election deniers on the ballot at different levels all across the country,” said Representative Jamie Raskin, Democrat of Maryland and a member of the committee. “We face a clear and present danger in the continuing efforts of the domestic violent extremist groups to attack our political and social order. There is further peril in the way that social media carries fanatical messages and conspiracy theories all over the country without any meaningful efforts to combat or counter that.”

On Wednesday, Representative Liz Cheney, Republican of Wyoming and the vice chairwoman of the committee, traveled to Arizona and spoke at the McCain Institute for International Leadership against her party’s nominees for governor and secretary of state there who have embraced Mr. Trump’s lie of widespread election fraud .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/us/politics/arizona-2020-election-conspiracy-theories.html .. in 2020.

“We cannot give people power who have told us that they will not honor elections,” Ms. Cheney said. “Elections are the foundation of our republic, and peaceful transfers of power are the foundation of our republic.”

At next week’s hearing, the committee is expected to use some evidence from a Danish film crew that trailed the political operative Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime ally of Mr. Trump, for a documentary titled “A Storm Foretold.”

Included in the evidence the film crew provided are text messages that show that Mr. Stone sought a pardon in connection with the events of Jan. 6 .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/us/jan-6-house-committee-delays-hearing.html?smid=tw-share .. and maintained close relationships with the leaders of two far-right extremist groups, the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers.

The footage also shows Mr. Stone using bellicose language, endorsing violence and laying out plans to create and exploit uncertainty about the election results to help Mr. Trump cling to power.

The committee obtained the footage from the filmmakers after extensive negotiations, issuing a subpoena and then traveling to Copenhagen to spend a week going through the evidence. Its investigators received about 10 minutes out of 170 hours of footage from a crew, which has denied similar access to the F.B.I.

The panel also could use some of the testimony of Virginia Thomas, the wife of Justice Clarence Thomas and a conservative activist who pushed to overturn the 2020 election. Ms. Thomas testified last week that she did not discuss those efforts with her husband, during a closed-door interview in which she continued to perpetuate the false claim that the election was stolen .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/us/politics/ginni-thomas-jan-6-committee.html .

While Mr. Thompson and other Democrats on the panel have said the hearing would likely be the committee’s last, Ms. Cheney has pledged additional hearings.

Luke Broadwater covers Congress. He was the lead reporter on a series of investigative articles at The Baltimore Sun that won a Pulitzer Prize and a George Polk Award in 2020. @lukebroadwater

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/06/us/politics/jan-6-committee-hearing.html

[vlispxpert]

Shut up with facts, these people don't want the truth...they want spoon fed lies from the 6 major corporations who own everything we see, hear, read...if it isn't from the 4 am talking points, they aren't interested...STOP WITH THE FACTS DUDE!!

[fuagf]

livefree_ordie, Repeat first bit of my first reply: Such a fucked up post should be deleted on sight. However, being the generous souls that we are look at the accommodating bunch of replies you have received. Seriously. Why do you continue to imprison yourself in your misinformed and deluded world? For a guy who claims to be a livefree... you are letting yourself down. I'm not having a go at you here, just.... to your post. Is it you get so emotionally involved in creating your nutsy word salads that you miss so much of the articles you visit. And the link ...ordie, the link! Or rather the the links!! At first look you seem to have included bits of two articles in there. LOL Memories of what conix used to do before she finally woke up as to just how inconsiderate and unacceptable those posts of hers were.

I felt it was fair to encourage you to read that again as seriously we could have deleted your post on sight. It is a disgrace, from you.

Ok to the 2nd article which you posted in virtually unreadable fashion.

FBI offered British spy Christopher Steele $1MILLION cash to prove his 'Dirty Dossier' allegations that Trump was colluding with Russia to win the election - but he COULDN'T, top bureau analyst tells federal court

* FBI analyst Brian Auten told a court the Steele offer was made in the UK in 2016
* Agents were trying to verify claims Trump was in contact with Russian officials
* There were also allegations the Kremlin had compromising videos of Trump engaged in sexual activities at a Moscow hotel
* The 35-page document also claimed Trump paid prostitutes to urinate on a bed once slept in by Barack and Michelle Obama
* Auten said Steele didn't get the cash because he couldn't back up the claims
* The slew of Trump allegations in flawed dossier have since been debunked
* Auten was testifying in the federal trial of Russian analyst Igor Danchenko
* He is accused of lying to the FBI, and played a major role in creating the dossier

By Geoff Earle, Deputy U.S. Political Editor For Dailymail.com
Published: 01:41 AEDT, 13 October 2022 | Updated: 04:11 AEDT, 13 October 2022

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11307577/FBI-offered-British-spy-Christopher-Steele-1-MILLION-debunked-dossier.html

There is the introduction for the 2nd article you used and abused. And the link you too carelessly left missing. The article you should know is terribly misleading in its mischaracterization of the Steele dossier.

Now see this one of 2019

benzedealer2/others, No more of the dossier started it lie.
May 3, 2019 - "And of course, we all know now that the main reason for the FISA warrants was the fake "Steele Dossier"
Dossier Not What ‘Started All of This’
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=148614061

It was linked just two days ago, here

rooster, For the umpteenth time to you the dossier was raw intelligence and it
was not central to any FBI investigation. To say it was is a lie. See May 2019
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170173792

livefree_ordie, Read, consider and reflect upon the stuff we give you. Do yourself a fucking favor.

Get your befuddled mind out of the gutter you have imprisoned yourself in.