Replies to post #11897 on PAIVIS Corp (fka PAVC)

[tiger1]

tcr ; go back when it happend your not even close . TD is going to tell you how many restricted shares they sold , I dont think so . give me the rep name and office # i will be happy to verifi. I think they sold 30 or 40 mill in the first 15min that day lol.

[Argonath]

Serf -

I went back through TCR's posts on PAVC... they started within 2 weeks.

This was his first post on this stock:

"i will start out by saying i am not a fan of paiv/pavc, do you folks honestly believe this company is legitimate, if so, i sure would like to hear some facts as to why you think it is."

You going to tell me hes not sent here for an agenda?

Argonath

[Dallas66]

here are your numbers


Of course we have to take into consideration that there is an unknown based on the fact we can't know who may have sold free trade APO shares, or how many.


so we have the following knowns:

from JPHC 4623208507 shares that become paiv restricted.

~56m APOA shares that become PAIV free trade shares

~560m PAIV restricted from the APOA 10x div

so we have ~5.24b O/S with ~5.18b restricted

here is the statistics from 5-19-2006 / 5-25-2006

DATE volume
05/25/2006 224541400
05/24/2006 406496800
05/23/2006 760425800
05/22/2006 920928200
05/19/2006 645915800

you will note the total is 2958308000 shares traded in those 5 days.

a reasonable assumption is that there are...were approx 19m insider shares in that original APOA O/S, which would bring the new float down to ~37m moved over from APOA to PAIV that are free trade shares.

But just for fun, lets say the entire O/S from APO is the float...so we will use 56m.

with a 5 day total of ~2.95 billion shares traded, and an average daily trading volume of ~591 million, that is over 1000% of the entire O/S traded EACH DAY. How many of those do you think were legitimate free trade shares each day? if you say the entire O/S was traded on a daily basis, then we can say serf is wrong for sure...it would be roughly 2.67 BILLION restricted shares instead of the 2.7 BILLION restricted shares that he said. Hmmmmm.....I suppose I will need to help him with his checkbook after all.

[im a survivor]

LOL.....Again, dont believe everything you 'hear on the phone'

I KNOW how many I alone bought when it opened the first day as PAIV down 98% and assume I wasn't the only one that saw it and pounced under .001 or just a tad above...I got filled between .0008 - .0011 and a 'nice sized chunk'....I sold mine the follwoing trading day, a monday and was thrilled with my less then 2 day STRESS FREE 10 bagger.....I am assuming others did the same and simply looking at the volume makes is pretty obvious there were more then 30 or 40 mil shares <LMAO>

<<the information that i was able to come up with thru conversation with ameritrade is the mistake was more like 30 or 40 million according to the rep, for what it's worth, so you are speculating just like the short squeeze pumpers are doing, and you are telling me not to speculate, sheesh
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Now, where the hell the shares came from, I have no idea.....and yes, I do agree that any huge short covering is mere speculation and my opinion is there wont be any 'seen' or none that will effect the pps in any major or long term way. Look at the list of stocks that can PROVE huge short positions and is it any wonder they sit there for g-d knows how long claiming over and over huge short covering is going to happen, yet nothing happens...

I do hope it does happen for the pavc longs, it is just this one mans opinion there will be no major huge up move seen due to short covering.....