serf, i asked a specific question, prove to me thru documentation that 2.7 billion restricted shares of jphc were transferred to paiv and released for sale, the information that i was able to come up with thru conversation with ameritrade is the mistake was more like 30 or 40 million according to the rep, for what it's worth, so you are speculating just like the short squeeze pumpers are doing, and you are telling me not to speculate, sheesh