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Re: Steady_T post# 140839

Tuesday, 02/13/2018 9:15:12 AM

Tuesday, February 13, 2018 9:15:12 AM

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That makes no sense considering that the company has said the minimum effective dose is 14 mg.

Further the data indicates that higher doses than that are required to get blood concentrations up to desired levels



The numbers you quoted come from data related to possible Alzheimer’s efficacy.

I was trying to get folks to calculate their own estimates for Rett dosing. It’s not bashing or pumping, just something that I believe can be helpful if one is investing in biotech’s. I don’t claim to be expert at it, so perhaps others can give it a go?

Companies use preclinical data (mouse models in this case) to find a dose that produces the results they are hoping to see, then they translate that dose into a “human equivalent dose” (HED)

“Therefore, I thought I'd post here the details regarding precisely how the HED can be calculated.

In short, the relevant formula is as follows:

HED (mg/kg) = Animal Dose (mg/kg) x [Animal Km / Human Km]

Human Km = 37

Mouse Km = 3

Rat Km = 6

EXAMPLE:

Say a STUDY conducted on MICE reports that a dosage of 5mg/kg was used; what is the HED?

By calculation, the HUMAN EQUIVALENT DOSE (HED) = 5 x [3 / 37] = 0.405 mg/kg “

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/58082-how-to-convert-dose-from-animal-to-human/

More details at the following link:

https://www.fda.gov/downloads/drugs/guidances/ucm078932.pdf

Now here is the Preclinical mouse data for A2-73 in Rett.

See page 6 for seizure related mouse dosage for example.

http://www.anavex.com/my_uploads/Assessment-of-Anavex-2-73-in-a-MECP2-Rett-Syndrome-Mouse-Model.pdf

Anyone care to to solve the math problem and put their work up on the board?




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