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Backup Plan? Yep, KEEP PAYING MANAGEMENT!
they have NO CLUE.
i try to be objective and give credit where it's due. doesn't matter who's right or wrong. the outcome will be the same.
U SAW this a LONG time ago!
as others have mentioned, it's a shame cos it's a good or decent product.
i actually had a scientist look at the product/ingredients. he was impressed, etc. and liked the product.
i once offered SKNY some 'help' thru an employee i knew. they declined. i SHOULD have known then they didn't know what the heck they were doing.
ESPECIALLY marketing. they simply do NOT sell the product correctly and never have. distribution deals are great, but...
of course, that's just one spoke of a wobley wheel. BUT it IS a big one, since it's increase revenues, etc.
top management thought they knew it all. sometimes it takes an objective eye.
IF they were really SERIOUS, they'd clean up their filings, etc... until then it'll be the same.
yeah, ur pretty much right on that! i'm stuck in an ave. of .0018...
for a MINUTE recently with that spike i had some 'surprise hope', but then u know, same ole 'performance'.
gla
how about CAGR "get CURRENT"? that should help clear up any ?'s.
been a big recent drop, which seems typical for this ticker.
to me a company has to be CURRENT or it's a big gamble.
HA! U R RIGHT kezz!! i'm just hoping out loud i guess!
u called this YEARS ago, i didn't listen.
good call.
being fueled by MULTIPLE PAID PROMO companies.
and i mean M-U-L-T-I-P-L-E!!!!!
Skull 'n' Bones on OTC, i'm out and will watch. made some $. but
tired of generally getting burned by penny and SO MUCH promo and they don't make $$$...
like some have said be WARY.
they should SELL the company ASAP! get it out of current management hands and let people who are better company operators take a shot at SKNY.
overall, management has FAILED. things are set up for smarter people to take to another level.
keeping things as they are now or even WITH TRIM, will be death to this stock, IMO.
as it sits it's BEEN a continued DOWNWARD SPIRAL. basically, all it/we do(es) is pay management salaries, imo.
WHEN will management ADMIT this?
no link, JMO re: what these 2 guys have done in the past.
i should have clarified that as my opinion.
anything can happen.
but look at their (Wilmot and Barwicki's) past. AND they've been stalling to complete. seems like they are 'scheming', imo.
prob. trying to sell the ticker and get some $ that way and then try to keep a % IF someone buys.
imo.
gla.
McHenry a FRAUD for YEARS!? How do people like this get away with it continually??? where's the SEC?
then again, if you simply went to their website or read the intro info, you'd see DUTV has done nothing they said they would in the past. AND that 'they' issued a dividend and spinoff company shares that have ZERO$ value.
a 5% dividend SHOULD have SOME value, right? tho it'd be so very small, it's the Principle and the Integrity at issue also.
i mean WHO does that and gets away with it?
THAT'S WHY i've tried to tell people here. cos i fell for the bull in 2009.
hoping that SOMEONE/ANYONE could benefit from MY LOSS/MISTAKE.
gla
i TRIED to tell people, DUTV/McHenry=FRAUD! and full of poopy! he does this same BS every couple years. WHY the SEC has not caught up with him, i do NOT know.
i know cos i've been burned in 2009. MY dd was too late and after the fact.
loox like the "stock" has a new YIELD sign. not 'current' anymore.
yeah, agreements, PR's etc., etc. THEN NOTHING materializes. u don't hear anything.
we'll see. but i think McHenry is headed for SEC trouble soon.
gla.
actually i DID see oil wells for sale on a site that sells shells and companies wanting to do a r/m, etc.
and "the company wants to retain at least 5%". u never know.that sounds like Wilmot, wanting to keep some.
but, hey, What happened to Barwicki's 'plan'? pretty much what we thought...
hope everyone's ok...
WHAT'S UP with THE POP today?! i don't see ANY news yet.
i wonder if they FINALLY got their numbers completed...??
U R RIGHT. APS, etc. are FRAUDS. most of them are. but esp. APS is BAD. i watch some of them for kicks to see how they do.
could be people getting smarter to HYPED stocks? i've looked at this and have a LITTLE. BUT, their financials are B-A-D. they've never made $$, etc.
an 'energy co.' who had gas wells go bad then switched gears into 'social media'.
they've been playing the ole "issue stock and get loans to basically pay management", imo.
HOW they get loans after reading their 10k, i'm not sure.
i can't believe how they acquired that GLOB media for (almost) nothing. not that i know anything re: GLOB.
AND they 'talked' their way out of the recent Canadian 'halt'. so someone must be able to think a little bit at TAGG.
NOW, that said, the segment the went into – as we all know – is HOT.
IF they actually do something perhaps the stock will go up.
BUT, i do NOT see a $1 a share as i've seen mentioned. JMO.
loox to me that a lot of shares were given @.06 and used for compensation for services, etc.
so, then of course those people want to sell when it hits 2x+ that price, etc. that's natural and very common in pennyland.
it's another penny stock to watch to see what happens. if just another scam or an actual company.
gla.
Yes, the silence is frustrating. it's time for them to issue something/anything re: what's up w/getting their filing up to to date/approved.
not sure what 'terrorists' have to do with THAT process.
i've seen this type of thing before – we prob. ALL have – where good news and numbers are PR'd THEN silence.
that's USUALLY = a problem somewhere.
i hope PERL gets to thinking MORE about us, it's shareholders.
gla.
loox pretty bad right now, have to admit. don't know if it'll pick itself up off the ground.
re: not doing anything and issuing shares, etc. it's too bad how MANY penny co. do this and get away with it.
hoping for a better outcome than the recent bs.
gla
it's 'funny' cos i invested in two similar companies figuring if one failed, etc. i drank a lot of kool aid i guess.
i THOUGHT ATNP was the better of the 2. it turned out the opposite, but the other was NOT good either.
that 'company' did 2 r/s and issued bs PR's, then diluted, announced a dividend that never paid anything (was to be 5%!!) and gave shares to shareholders to a spin off co. that is worthless and has never traded.
YET, they are still trading!! albeit at sub penny prices.
NOW, they seem to be going thru the same formula as before. and many are going for it. i've tried to warn people on ihub, but...
good point, 'sb'. this was ONE of my 'lessons'. there will always be more.
for ATNP to be ur first had to be interesting. it's a SHAME u/we can't believe what the head of a company says.
i've been 'burned' by BIG companies AND pennies. so it's adjusted my thinking somewhat and i TRY to be smart, but like u said it's also a game.
gl2a
let's hope the Australia news and the better Q3 #'s help a steady climb. tho right now it's not. still mired under $5.
but, i'm pretty much looking at this as a long. and i don't have many shares. being cautious w/it since i realize it's on it's historical low end.
gla to all 3 of us! and have a good day!
it's better that ur in this after the splits, etc. i'm an "old head" re: DUTV. if u read my posts u'll see what i mean.
i don't know if u want to read all this. i thought maybe u knew about the past and i was curious what u thought.
below is some of what i've posted. and some of it's mentioned above on the 'intro' page. just seems the past may be repeating itself.
gl, i'm ONLY trying to make people aware of the 'past', etc. and perhaps someone could learn from MY loss. McHenry has promised in the past just to hurt people pocketbooks.
IF dutv ever does anything REAL perhaps i can still benefit since i'm stuck with some shares.
PLUS the 'spin off' shares in a co. they issued years ago that have never been worth anything.
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Please be aware that dutv issued some garbage pr's in the past to pump this stock.
i've been BURNED before by McHenry/dutv. i still have some shares cos they r pretty worthless compared to the past.
but i've LOST $$'s trying "to believe" when dutv was GONNA do internet TV, the last mile, ETC.
dutv announced they were buying/merging (whatever) with a Jamaican firm or something.
it was bs. but of course there was never any follow up to that, just a lot of nothing and a basically DEAD stock.
i did call the company mentioned in the 'acquisition' and found out the deal was never close and only talked about.
but the PR's McHenry issued sounded like it was a done deal. the info is still on the DUTV website.
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i'm basically an optimist (but also an idealist), so when i feel i (and/or others) have been screwed by a person/company, it's hard to trust them in the future.
of course, with company's like this (a bit shady) there's a chance you can still make $$. esp. the recent pps is a far cry from the past.
longs in this stock were screwed by bs PR's, r/s, dilution (over 3 or 5 bil. sh. now? u kno what that means, someday, right?), an 'announced' 5% dividend (before the r/s), that DUTV has NEVER paid on, (ticker: DIGI) etc.
any opinions on the past dealings of DUTV? i'd be curious of your opinion since ur a shareholder and a lawyer.
and i mean this sincerely.
there's also another company that still trades in which the product is similar as 'atnp', imo.
the TOS says we r not supposed to name other stocks so hopefully ya'll know or can figure it out. or if asked i will hint.
but HOW these companies are allowed to trade, etc. with no real products, revenue being developed AND with non-fulfilling PR's to dupe investors...???
chris debutt SHOULD HAVE ALSO gone to JAIL. a 'ban' and a fine weren't enough. bet he came 'out ahead' which is why people do this.
just read ur post/thread. i was curious since i'm STUCK w/some dutv shares from years ago. AND of course the hefty 5% DIVIDEND AND spin off shares of the made up co. (DIGI) lol, etc.
from what I can see/find out is half of TORQ's website doesn't function.
just like dutv's site is all OLD stuff. and not flattering stuff at that, since people can see NONE the stuff materialized. BUT they 'are a leader in open pie holes or whatever'...
BUT that's the way it is i guess when ur a one man operation as seems to be the case w/ McHenry (and TORQ?).
the two "company's" seemed made for each other.
AND, HOW does a company LOSING $ ACQUIRE a Co. supposedly posting $16m in revenue ?!
NOW, THAT'S some smart deal making!!
will be an interesting watch. i can't believe McHenry can still even have a ticker symbol. if i'm proven wrong, i'll admit it.
BUT i've been beaten by the McHenry before. he was saying pretty much the SAME stuff as the recent 'news'.
it never happened. it wasn't real.
gla and please be careful here.
hey! a Zappa reference!! need a miracle to come out ahead on SKNY. well, I need a miracle anyway.
can only hope for the best, but they just keep marketing poorly or nearly at all. i NEVER see a reference re: advertising unless it's an email from them, etc.
they have to think 'bigger'. maybe they are too close to the 'project'. perhaps SKNY needs Daryl Stevens and Larry Tate?
as one saying goes... "you can't afford NOT to advertise".
gl and good day to us all.
sborogo, thnx for the link! WHY are there so many scammers around?! is it worth it? i guess for some it is.
gl and good day!
always appreciate ur 2 cents 'mg'! yeah, hoping for the best. i've held my shares and gone with the flucuations. sometimes adding a lil on – what i hope – is the low end!
gla and a good day.
right, can't sell. imo also. i stated my shares were worth .36¢.
i was wrong. they are currently worth $22.50
i don't want to tell u what they originally cost.
gla
why wouldn't "they" want to get to fleshing this thing out?! and get the company rolling.
it's (basically) all set up and ready to go.
that the thing that concerns me personally.
if Homeclick IS involved that's a good thing, imo.
and they'd already have something to build upon the Foreman name.
gl to us all!
wish u the best, but be careful here. what's going on has been typical of McHenry's past if u really check him out.
just looking at the info above this page, re: the 2x r/s, THEN issued more shares. and the "dividend" that's worth ZERO $.
that raises more than red flags...
i've raised my other concerns here. so i won't beat the horse.
i've LOST $ with McHenry, believing/hoping re:"IPTV Open Network".
all i'm trying to get across...
if ANYONE can learn/benefit from my mistake(s)...
just be careful and watch diligently.
gla!
(NOTE: the shares i hold today of dutv are worth a total of 36¢!)
a merger taking 11-15 YEARS?! i've never heard of that and from my experience would not make much sense.
i've been thru mergers a few times within companies i was working for, and you want to complete them within a year at the latest. and that's the outside length of time, imo. when prhaps u run into a problem.
there are many reason to complete a merger in a timely (read quick) manner.
we completed 'ours' no later than 7 months.
hmmm, not sure about what u say re: product. BUT considering what has gone on, i'd tend to have to agree with you.
i'd hope that TV stations and those segments, etc. would be objective, but...
there are lessons to be learned here, albeit hard ones for some (me included).
the scammers had a couple good ideas, imo, that LEGITIMATE company's could use.
unfortunately, these scoundrels used them for the wrong reasons.
i can't believe people like Mosko, Metter, et.al., can shame their family like that. esp. their parents who put up their homes, etc. Man, later in life and ur gonna LIE to ur parents?!
goes to show you the POWER of GREED. but u have to be immoral somewhere inside to do/plan everything they did.
"in the end", where/what did it get them?
i wonder what their end game was?
(i have an idea but it was obviously flawed. and it's prob. giving them too much credit.)
thnx for replies.
i get it or should i say i GOT it. yeah, they lied just about everywhere they could.
but the product DID get good reviews. i saw 2 demo's by TV stations and they rated the main sponge as a buy.
but none of that matters when management is a bunch of...
gla.
thnx '236', i HOPE they receive those stiffer penalties.
man, was their GREED worth it?
what pieces of bullpoopy these guys are. what disgraces to their family.
they actually had a decent thing going. were getting good reviews on their products, had investors, name recognition, some good ideas, etc.
and then they go and lie, cheat and waste $$ for a short lived 'party'? i don't don't know what else to call it.
they are pitiful.
gla
thnx 'cjc', i'll take a look when i get the chance. i doubt i'll be a future investor here, but u never know.
as i've mentioned prior. perhaps this is not a bad trade NOW with suck a low pps. but people involved early got the shaft due my prior 'claims'... r/s 2x, dilution (and w/5 bil. sh. there'll prob. be another, imo), unkept 'promises'...
? > why isn't their website up to date? unless i'm accessing the wrong link, loox dead since 2009?
gla
here's the 'spin off' stock dutv shareholders were issued that i mentioned.
DIGI Digital UTS Ventures Inc. (RSTD)
no value for YEARS. guess u never know.
gla
SPERANZA got probation! i hate that. but a couple got SOME jail, SO metter and mosko should be getting more jail time than them. i HOPE so anyway.
just seems you can't believe penny stocks when they say they are profitable OR have had huge sale increases.
this seems to usually be the norm. let's hope they dig out of this.
thnx for the reply mm107.
IF dutv ever does anything REAL perhaps i can still benefit since i'm stuck with some shares.
PLUS the 'spin off' shares in a co. they issued years ago that have never been worth anything. i'll have to look at the name, it never traded tho. i don't know IF they'll ever be worth anything.
i'm basically an optimist (but also an idealist), so when i feel i (and/or others) have been screwed by a person/company, it's hard to trust them in the future.
of course, with company's like this (shady) there's a chance you can still make $$. the recent pps is a far cry from the past.
i'm generally a 'long'. sometimes an 'idiot long'. and longs in this stock were screwed by bs PR's, r/s, dilution (over 5 bil. sh. now? u kno what that means, someday, right?), an 'announced' 5% dividend (before the r/s), etc.
but Razor, sincere thnx for being civil re: my comments. i think it's a good discussion to have here.
gla and have good weekend.