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Fianlly someone who says what they intend to do and backs it up with their reasoning.
I know nothing much about PAR and SAR and Parabolic...so I am just taking a risk all around.
I plan to buy tomorrow after either the second hour or the second to last hour, but I will not do like I did on Monday and buy in first hour...(1.76), that was purley a OMG I don't wanna miss out emotional buy. Bad bad move. But...I am here for the long term and I expect FNMA to get up the $10.00 range over the next year, if it does better or even only half that then I still win.
I was hoping that lady who bought with the 100k based on someone elses info will realise that there is lots of room here to either recoup or stay in the game. My only reasoning is the move from .20 to its current level and all the "excitement" which brings in buyers like me :) Chin up.
-Frdmlover
Glad you mentioned the 3 day wait...I am thinking they have extra funds available for fipping, not using sold shares to flip..
Yeah, I am pretty sure the sp is dropping because I finaly decided to buy in at 1.76 this morning. Never fails.
I see where you think this isa scam. I simply think it is a failed product/idea that the company can't sell. I have said that before and still think I am right. The company says its product is more expensive because it uses green technology...they also state builders always look at the bottom line and go for the cheapest costs...which excludes this companies products. I asked IR to explain to me how the company planned to market its product when they admit it is expensive...still waiting.
Hopefuly they will get some contracts or something.
GLTA- Frdm
Dip? Your joking right? Have you looked at the chart? That decending line...that is the running dip.
Truth be told, I don't see why anyone thinks the CE is what is holding this stock down and in fact pushing it into nothingness.
Prior to the CE being placed, the stock was in a steady downward spiral even before the big plunge. The last few PR's were far from earth shattering or even interesting. In fact I think the death knell was the loss of the partnership with the seismograph technology company that was going to provide the supports for the buildings. Hardly any mention of that news when it was released.
Personally I think the company is trying to sell an idea rather than a technology. It should be painfully obvious now as well that the kitty litter is not sweeping the market and revolutionizing the kitty bin.
As to the Dual Zorb products, the only notable mention was the container sale to Kuwait which was never even followed up on. Surely there had to have been other opportunities? The reason I bring this up is to remind everyone this is not a new company, they have been around for a while and rather than building relationships it seems their relationships are disolving.
They made brief mention of POS people being hired into certain regions, I looked over the financial statements that were just realeased and I con't see where the company has money to pay a staff? Speaking of financial statements, if they are not willing to stay current for the benefit of thir shareholders then what business is this company really in? Should shareholder be 1 year behind on the business's financials? Only if they suck.
I hold a significant position (well what was once considered a significant poistion), so I certainly feel right at home expressing myself. I do hope for a turn around, but I just don't see the company making headlines in the mainstream media...without that does anyone really think this is suddenly going to move back to .14? Seriously?
.14 to .0006...what could there possibly be good to say?
MSMY + 900% Friday Aug 10th. Anyone have any thoughts before market opens today?
Thanks - Frdm
About this .006 buy....I have put in orders in the past for higher than the ask to guarentee my shares, the MM's then sold me the shares from the ask up to the number of shares I was buying, often not reaching the amount I offered because they were able to fill the order. I don't see how the buyer could have made this "mistake", either the seller made the error or it is a legit buy in that the shares they wanted were not available up to .006. Definatley very peculiar. I enjoyed soemone post about it being the responce to the miracualous dip last year. That would be nice!
So, now that we are at this .006...what does that do for trading on Monday? My guess is everyone who has been buying in the trips will be welling asap for between .004 and .006. If there are no buyers then we will end up and whatever the lowest sell order is. Hopefully it is in the 4 - 5 range, though I assume people will take a small profit to dump the shares and get out if they can which means we will head straight back to .001 so fast you might get a nose bleed if you watch.
Now should I try to get out too is the question. I am surprised there was so little talk about this ovr the weekend. No one sending out mass emails about the 900% gains and all that...people have bought and sold on many other whims...maybe they will spin the wheel and drive it up a bit more :)
Whatever you decide to do, good luck.
- Frdm
The point behind this entire issue is wether or not a company official is partaking in Ihub commentary and in so doing encouraging people to buy the stock. The issue of the order and its details is what brought this up by revealing or suggesting that and it should be a concern to all who have purchased shares. Just wanted to mention that to get the issue back on track.
Frdm
Ok, on that logic...I placed an order with Amazon this week in fact. Please contact Amazon and inquire about the status of my order and by all menas feel to post it on the board. The only information you get is what you can gather from Ihub or any other information you can acquire via the web and my Ihub account name. As apparently Sonoil did for AC. Have at it good luck and let us know what Amazon has to say about your efforts.
Frdm.
You miss the point, the "customer" is an Ihub handle.
But hey, if your ok with businesses telling your neighbors about your purchases with one or two only minor details...well thats for you to decide. But as business practice it is pathetic and just plain wrong. Your view may be a bit skewed considering you don't want to defame your investment, people will give up all kinds of things not to be wrong about something, anything. Just sayin'.
Frdm.
So in all fairness then, how did you manage to convince IR to discuss a customer's order information with you? The simple fact that you were able to do so raises some red flags for me and should for you as well. If you don't care to discuss it thats ok, but those of us that find that activity questionable at best on the company's part are well within our sanity to think the way we do. You could not have gotten the company to discuss AC's order information based on his Ihub user name...there is a story there somewhere, maybe it is best left unsaid or maybe you did nto get the information you claim to have gotten. I prefer that you made it up.
Frdm
So in all fairness then, how did you manage to convince IR to discuss a customer's order information with you? The simple fact that you were able to do so raises some red flags for me and should for you as well. If you don't care to discuss it thats ok, but those of us that find that activity questionable at best on the company's part are well within our sanity to think the way we do.
Frdm
Accepted, thank you. About your order I was hoping against hope apparently that you and he are family or friends and that you provided him with your information so he could contact the company for you. Apparently that is not the case which makes me very nervous now. I would suggest (considernig recent events) that Sonoil is Tim Algiers or the IR guy, and if that is correct then this company is toast and I may very well have lost $17,000.00. I can't sell now, no volume and my current in the red is $9,000.00.
If Sonoil fabricated this entire story he has certainly done more damage than good.
So, what's the story Sonoil?
Edit: If it is true that a repersentative or someone involved with the company is posting on Ihub, I would definately like to know who it is...if they have been posting buy, hold, long and strong or in any other way encouraging people to buy/hold shares under a false identity I have a very strong suspicion there may be some legal issues comming their way. In my opinion those actions are unethical and equate to promoting stock as a company insider. I am sure someone here can lay that out better than I did. At the very least it speaks volumes about the company, I will have to give very serious consideration to getting out asap and eating that 9 grand.
Frdm
Wow why are flaming at me? I only posted informatino on my experience with my order and was not attacking or questioning you in any way. My comment about it only having been 5 business days was not meant to suggest you were being impatiant, I was just making an observation. Holy crap, have a good day. Sorry I said anything at all.
Huh?
IR discussed a customers shipping information with you?
Now I have heard it all, how is that even possible?
You just single handedly struck fear for me in my investment. WTF is up with IR discussing a customers' shipping with a person other than the purchaser...much less it being IR? What the heck does IR have to do with the business of selling and shipping? That makes absolutely no sense what so ever.
Something is just not right about that.
Frdm
AC, it has only been 5 working days since you placed your order.
I also ordered litter a while back and it took about a week and a half to receive it. When I complained that it had not been delivered the CEO personally emailed me and offered to compensate me if in fact the order had not been delivered. As it turned out the order did ship and was recieved in a timely fashion prior to my contact with the CEO (T Algiers), only the person I sent it to forgot to tell me it had arrived. Also, there web service seller did not update the account properly to indicte the order had been shipped which is what caused all the confusion.
So in short, there is no scam (at least where the litter is concerned, it is the only confirmation I can personally give in that regard). I cannot attest to the litter yet as I have had no feedback.
Frdm
Sonoil...no disrespect but you can't state with any degree of certainty that anyone should "rest assured" about anything with this company unless you either work for the company or you have personal ties to the company and have informatino that is not available to the rest of us.
I don't mind people being positive..but for people to speak with certaintly about any future actions of the company or its CEO is well, just absurd at best.
The more people say oh nooo, don't worry about a thing just buy buy buy...well maybe those are the folks who are selling selling selling.
The downward spiral is disgusting and disheartening. Who in their right mind would be talking positive about a stock that is descending every day, week and month with no end in sight because the company can't sell its core product. I say can't because if it could it would have by now...after how mny years of being in business? And lets face it...the MoneyTV promo hasn't done crap for the investors, not even a small spike or run. Maybe the company needs to replace that pretty building on their home page with one that they have actually built so people can see that they actually build what they say they can and that it is marketable.
The company says itself that the housing industry takes the least expensive route rather than go green and durable. With that mind set spelled out in ther own web site they have already defeated themselves imho by saying they have a product no one is willing to buy. I specifically asked Tim how he was going to overcome that hurdle and big surprise no response. As a rather large share holder here I felt that was a fair enough question...even if he didn't want to address it to me perhaps they should give some clue to that on their web site.
Just my 2 cents. With any luck the company will find success, but while we wait for that to happen people should mind how they "encourage" people to buy here, which they shouldn't do in the first place. Long and Strong is an incredibly absurd phrase tossed around on every stock with in IHub...meaning any idiot can dump money into a failing stock and see it all the way to the bottom. Problems is those people never apoogize to the folks that tried to hype into buying while they are selling out the back door. Not calling you or anyone out, just making the point. IF people choose to buy they should do it on their own assesment and it would be nice to see a credible board where people don't presume to be so sure in their choice that they actually try to sell that belief to perfect strangers.
Wow said much more than I intended. Guess I am frustrated too with my current - $9,000.
Frdm.
I posted a while back that I had placed an order for Soft Paws kitty litter, the site did not update the status of my order for two weeks so I emailed the company (twice) to inquire about the delivery of my order. Much to my pleasure I recieved a personal email from Tim Algier.
As it turns out the order was delivered in a timely fashion (inside of 7 days) only my account wasn't updated online and the person I shipped to forgot to tell me the order had arrived (Jury is still out on the product, waiting for feedback).
Thus far the only issue is with the account not being updated which I take to have been an oversight or a bug that needs to be worked out and I am confident it will be after receiving the email from Tim Algier. In particular because he sent that email in the midst of the many things ongoing as evidenced by the Moneytv interview, which I enjoyed.
Regarding the interview I thought he seemed a bit squeemish or embarassed when it came to talking about the kitty litter, I wish he had spoken with greater authority and pride about that part of his business. He also made a reference to women having the interest in the litter...he should have kept it gender neutral and referred to the inquiries as potential customers...I am a male and I have a great interest in that product.
I was very intrigued by the interview, I tried to see if there was a place to view the number of times the video had been viewed...that would be nice to see from an investors point of view. Anyone know if that is possible?
Over all many things going on it seems, I didn't think any of it was fluff or contrived. The interview was very believable especially after he talked about shipping empty containers full of product...I got a chuckle out of that.
I may actually consider buying more shares in the near future.
Just my thoughts.
GLTA
Frdm
Thank you for the "civil" responce, it was well stated and consistent with how you post about this company.
First off...I did not make any personal references to anyone when I stated my opinion of the PR which is the purpose of this board.
My logic and reasoning lead me to the conclusion I made and insulting me doesn't validate your view and opinions any more than anyone elses.
I would have had some respect for your post had you kept it to the business at hand and not made it so personal. Who are you tell anyone to stop complaining? Or presume to know when they should bow out of a stock? My less than positive review of the PR does not equate to a complaint. About your post...now I am complaining, it was uncalled for and discourteous at the least.
Since your so adept at giving advise to people you have never met, perhaps you are keen to take some...if you are going to berate someone consider if you would actually do it in person to a complete stranger...which I am and which you would not.
Frdm
Riskon....just curious, would the company publish a "promo"?
If not then how does anyone know if the anser is yes or no?
How do you know?
Thanks,
Frdm
Well by golley slap the ask and buy em today!
Post your buys too so we have even more of an incentive!
My take on the PR:
They did exactly what they should not have done. They drew up this huge long winded PR about the online store. Says to me they have nothing substantial to report, which means the have made no mentionable progress in their core business. Which when push comes to shove the purpose of the PR was to placate current share holders not bring in new investors (you know the serious kind that can spend more than a few hundred dollars at a time when they say they are buying).
Hopefully we don't hear anything else about kitty litter unless it is going main stream like into Wal-Mart and becomes their main revenue producer. The problem with "pellet" litter is cats don't like it and neither do the litter box cleaners...it just doesn't scoop like clay. I had hoped the litter was actual "litter", not pellets. I did buy 4 of the 9 lbs bags, waiting on delivery and kitty approval. So in fairness the jury is still out for now. Though I already know the shippnig cost is just too expensive for me to worry about being green. Clay litter breaks up and washes away with a good rain and is inexpensive and readily available in the local market.
I believe without a doubt they either paid pumpers to get busy on iHub over the weekend, or someone on the inside is an iHubber. Only makes sense seeing as these folks came out of no where and really went to work on saturday and sunday...then wow a PR on moday morning. Very suspicious. I think those people hurt the company more than they did it any good where the market is concerned...ceratinly was a turn off to me and raised too many red flags.
Back burner this one IMHO. It goes no where if they can't market their core product. They told why they couldn't themselves...bottom line building.
I am down $6,000.00 (on $17,000 invested), so I obviously hope for better days and the companies success. But this PR was a dud and served only one purpose.
Frdm
(all in my humble opinion of course)
Thank you....so even without shipping their litter is way too expensive, and after shipping it is not even affordable.
People won't buy green just because it is green...especially when the product is easily replaced with something already on the market that is coparatively dirt cheap...I suspect this too is the problem with their housing line...
Well I just placed my order for 4 of the 9 lb. bags of kitty litter. I won;t be using it personally but I will post with feedback when I get it. I have to say the shipping was expensive, it was just slightly more than the cost of the 4 bags of product...they may not go over well for consumers. Total cost of my purchase was $65.00. That is a lot of money for 36 lbs. of litter if you ask me. But then again it has been some time since I bought kitty litter...anyone know the going rate for brand name litter?
Hopefully it is worth the money and hopefully my contribution will help my investment!
Frdm
I wanted to buy the kitty litter last week, but the site wasn't quite finished...I am not sure about the online retailer they are using, kinda made me nervous about putting my nifo out there with no guarentee of how that information will be used.
Anyone else try to buy and have any concerns?
When the company does something that causes it to deserve attention...you may be right.
First off, I do not and have never made a summation of your character or person. Don't presume to know anything about me in that regard.
Secondly...where did the company ever state the purpose of the trip to Haiti was to "close the deal?" That statement was never made.
I have several domains, as do many people. I haven't seen any information or updates about the online store...how is it that you know it is almost done so much so that you state it as fact?
The trip to Haiti was not just days ago, as you said it was the first week of February. Though I have no expectations on when they will release information on what that trip amounted to, that news will come when it comes. I jut don't see PR's about trying to drum up business as worthwhile, I see them as rather gimmicky. I laid that out in a previous post if you care to look it up.
I have never questioned the company's legitimacy.
My initial comment that got yuo so upset was more tongue in cheek about the love of everything holy and the reality that there is nothing holy about the stock market. But I can see how you would have missed that.
Frdm
you mean for the love of money and success!
And so we don't all feel like we got duped and robbed.
What does anyone care about holy in the stock market?
Unfortunatley many of you are beginning to sound like an infomercial rather than informed investors.
I "trust" this company...
"buy now or regret it later"
You will "never" see prices this low again!
-ad nauseum
Ever think that maybe those unqualifiable statements may actually work against your goal of encouraging Ihub readers to buy into this stock? Especially as there has been no recovery and no substantive proof of anything positive happening with the company. I am not suggesting the company is not making efforts to grow its business, it is my hope that they are, that is why I am here. So when they release something that shows they have actually done something that will make them money then I will be happy to read all about it here on the board. But for now, we must wait and see what the next PR brings us.
I enjoy enthusiasm as much as the next person...but I do not consider "or you will regret it" sales tactics as enthusiasm. I see them as paid pumpers trying to sell the stock. The stock will sell itself when the company does something that gives the stock value.
No offense to anyone.
-Frdm
Well, it would have been nice to see this restriction put in place two months ago when we were approaching .01...sadly I think this will now drive us lower or keep us under .003 unless the company releases something explosive.
Has anyone been able to call the company to see if they had a comment of the restricted trading status of the stock?
Before anyone screams at me to call myself I am out of country and my schedule makes this very difficult, so I am only asking if anyone did, not asking for someone to do it.
The e-cmmerce site not being up yet is nagging at me.
Frdm
I hate to say it, but my Mother got her e-commerce site up in one day. And she is not a comp guru by any means. And, I was a share holder in MDGC for a couple of years to the tune of $50k...they also PR'd their e-commerce site and in my opinion it was a gimmick to string investors along so they didn't all jump ship. I was lucky enough to get out and preserve $10k of my investment.
In my opinion, if a company is making headway in its core business any mention of web site updates, e-commerce sites, trips to visit potential clients or to drum up business should only be a byline at the end of a PR. It should NEVER be the prime focus or reason for the PR. Core business is what should be PR'd, that is after all the reason for investors putting their money into a company.
Now that said...if the e-commerce site was up and running and caused a sudden influx of business (affect to the core buiness) then that would be worth a PR. If the trip to Haiti or any other venture ended in an agreement (signed, sealed and delivered) that would be worth a PR.
A foward looking statement PR should only be released if the company is venturing into R&D, or has completed R&D and is moving into marketing...things of that nature (I.e. the new Ipad, or new MS operating system, new Zorb product).
After comming into this stock days after the crash...the PR's that have been released feel "string along" to me, and that does not inspire confidence nor a desire for me to buy more shares. In fact it has made me wish I had sold the last time we got close to .01. In hindsight I would have to say that cbmt (sp) made the only smart move by selling and buying back in, apparently the Ihub hyped "risk" he took didn't exist...and probably still does not. Current pps being proof in the pudding.
I have over 3M shares with a avg. of .0054 after averaging down several times. I am here for the long haul now, wether I wanted to be or not. I said it before and I will say it again, if there is nothing worth PRing then I don't want a PR...the loss will be easier to deal with rather than feeling like I have been strung along. Something the "marketing team" might want to take notice of.
JMHO---Frdm
I thought your post meant Haitian Times wrote an article on MCE...but your link only goes to the home page for the periodical.
Can you post the correct link to the article or clarify why you posted the link to the newspaper please?
EDIT: Never mind, I found the correct page which is not an article written by Haitian Times, it is simply a link to the recent PR...but nice to see it in their newspaper.
http://www.haitiantimes.com/pages/news_earthquake
Riskon, I respect your posts by not twisting your words or even offering a rebuttle to what you post. I would appreciate it if you didn't do that to mine.
I meant exactly what I said, very proficient in English thank you.
A statement from the company with no supporting evidence does not instill confidence in investors and make them open their pocket books. Cold hard facts that are supported do. I.e. they could have reported the actual numerical data to support their claim that a web presence was needed...surely they researched this or had some figures of their own to back up this need, including that in the PR would have given the claim and need for the web presence more respectability. Like I said, what was the point?
Now, had they PR'd the website AFTER it was online...that would have made sense. It's only a web site, nothing ground breaking there. To be honest I am surprised there wasn't a web presence already, it is pretty much standard for any business.
And as far as the stock price is concerned, I think that is the least of what is confusing investors. In fact the current stock price is what has brought many of the current posters (investors/traders) here to date, including myself.
Frdm.
PRing the ability to buy product from a web site seems a bit frivolous to me. Add to it that the web site will not be available until the end of the month...what was the point?
This "news" could have been two sentences in the previous PR, then it may have been more respectable.
I fear people may see this PR as a desperate move, I do. Apparently the market didn't find it very ensuring either.
The first PR about the container of product shipping to Kuwait was interesting and a good update, but nothing earth shattering for many reasons...why people expected the stock to run to .03 on that very vague news is beyond me.
My hope is that they have a chain of PR's lined up that they will be realeasing over the next month or two, if that is the case then I also hope they are using that "attention" to build up interest in the company as they near the big finale.
I can't belive the slide...disheartening to say the least.
The Oil companies in Kuwait are state owned. Many countries in the world have state owned operations for their resources, unlike the US model. So yes, saying Kuwait is the buyer would be factual without naming a specific company.
So what does this mean exactly?
"The restructuring and the reversal of purchase agreements with Western Door and Seismic Foundation..."
According to the IBox PR the merger was completed May 11, 2011.
I wish the company had expounded on the the "purchase agreements" part so people like me are more easily able to understand what the heck that means. Someone on the board mentioned MCE had lost the Seismic Foundations...but that is not what I am getting out of that statement. Unless it is a really crafty way to say the merger fell through, if that is the case it needs to be stated in plain english so people fully understand what are invested in.
Frdm