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I quite agree and it's well documented this was the reason the BB's took the case to the Fed Level. There's absolutely no other reason why they would take the case in play to a higher court. They wanted this evidence excluded.
The evidence against them is damaging to them and they literally went out and hire a criminal defense team...not that it'll do any good (I like Martin's "even Perry Mason could save them" comments).
In truth, they knew going in they couldn't win, they admitted they were losing the state case. Going to the federal courts only prolonged the inevitable. That's all done! Very soon we move forward and be done with these two for good (after the shareholders get done with them).
C'mon Peach...these two are up for men of the year. On the right, we have Steve Funklestien, a con artist and thief. Takes people's money, commits fraud, steals company assets, studies and passes them off as his own. Takes proprietary information and passes it off as his own.
On the left...we have Slugger Joe Joe Slimeletto. Drunken gymp, who pounds his wife and daughter into oblivion. People's Champion I'd say, real stud! Cons an 85 year old woman on her death bed for all she's worth and doesn't deliver. When she passes away, doesn't give her family a dime. He's a pure family guy insomuch as his own daughter get a 100 yard restraining order on him, not sure if it's permanent....but wouldn't you just love to be at that house for Thanksgiving?
These two geniuses were brilliant enough to try a hostile takeover of the company. Yeah, they had a great plan. Lure MW in with a $250k loan, then trash him with customers, distributors and the rest, then call in the note, knowing they interfered with the company's business (tortious interference)...and yes, they were caught and discharged for cause and with the blessings of the shareholders (good riddance!). And they didn't stop there. They took studies that IFUS and it's shareholders paid for and tried to pass them off as their own (fraud).
So yeah, men of the year. Only one problem. They won't be able to be at the ceremony. Joe's date with prison awaits for his last episode in wife beating...he's waiting to serve his time "for health reasons." Wonder if he should have thought about his health BEFORE he dropped his wife with his amazing right hook? SA, sadly has 26 felony indictments he's waiting on. More than likely won't be able to attend...date with Club Fed!
Give them a break Peach. These two super heroes are role models!
MW owes nothing, neither does Supreme. The Judge NEVER mentioned "scienter" at all, it's all made up by...and yes, by the SA/JS Cabal.
Sylvan Learning center needs a call....the SA Cabal needs to learn how to read and comprehend. The case was not dismissed for a lack of evidence.
Turned down what offer? MW didn't make an offer of settlement. The BB's did, three times! All rejected. Time to give it up....cracks me up. For what? Criminal acts from the plaintiffs? lololololololololol..not happening lolololol
Hmmmm what about the state counter? Not dismissed? That's still in play
The application is on file. Might want to check it out..and YES I am citing fraud in the application process. I think Eco had a discussion with you on this...
Reverse Q. Are you citing there was no fraud, even thought it's clear there is? I can imagine if MW submitted the same application, how that would be torn apart by the letters.
We'll see what the authorities think.
I agree AND he does have the proof. Game over for the BB's.
Actually it's not. The Patent Office is aware of the BB's fraudulent application....not far away from under investigation. The legal crunch is now turning on the BB's.
lol...the State Judge does believe it. Might want to look a little closer to the State file. A couple of the judge's comments tells me this is why they filed the fed case. Cut and dry.
BTW, that didn't work either...
I believe it! Why? It's the truth!
Have you seen the divs for this year? Nice roi. Hated to see Chazen step down, but glad they got rid of Hanley in Bahrain and Sandy in the UAE. Neither could produce and they sold off more than 40% of their ME Assets to other foreign investors-holding companies. This is after investing billions....but...they say they'll use this capital to buy back common stocks, which will be good.
Good 1Q $$$$$. If I see the pps dip after the divs are paid in July (possibly June, as it needs to be on record by the 10th I think), I think I'll flip again. I've made very good money on OXY over the years. Flipped the past couple years and made good money and actually bought more back.....keep paying the divs....
Not really. Fraud in the patent process is very serious.
Not for long. The shareholders are going after these two and this has been made clear.
You honestly think there'll be a link to an open investigation?
Are you kidding? Authorities are all over this. Boot boys are in deep stuff
MW didn't tell me. Let's start with that.
Hmmm Miami State will tell you that the Criminal Authorities monitor civil cases as a norm. They have a whole division to do this and are thoroughly funded.
Especially when people like...oh I dint know, shareholders file complaints.
No escape SA and JS. Smart move to get a criminal defense team..you'll need it
Not right at all. MW never made an offer to settle. As much as the boot boys would love for that to have happened, it hasn't and won't.
I think the SAcabal forgets they have no chance to win and even confessed they were losing. So why would Ifus offer to settle? No logic in this at all.
MW is holding the best hand. Proof shows the boot boys broke the law with intent. It shows they were caught and terminated. And it shows they've lost.
It's over and they know it. So they offered to settle. End of story
I'm very close to this case and can say 100% for sure Ifus and MW have made no offers to settle. I CAN say the boot boys have made offers. Three to be exact.
Yep. Deregister the stock that's what
Like every other day. This one will stay no big until it gets de registered like it's sisters
Lol people are taking the tax write off
1-4 blow all nonsense and no truth to this.
That doesn't answer the question. Why would we believe anyone who hasn't been there over people who have as part of their DD?
Yeah and now back at the reality ranch....we'll see. It was offered as settlement
Again, I don't see myself as a bag holder, I don't see myself as a victim, I think MW's performance given the circumstances has been exceptional, I see the progress and see the court cases coming to an end...with an Ifus win...I see the company building and moving forward...nationally and internationally...happy with that. ..and I see once the baggage (court cases) are disposed, with capital in hand, MW can put all his attention toward the company.
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Oh and btw, when Ifus wins (and it's a lock they will) we'll have the patent back.
Lastly, just bcs the case with Ifus and MW is over with the boot boys DOESN'T mean it's over for them. They're going back to 2 courtrooms. First to face the shareholders and 2nd to face the jury for their criminal acts...
Hope that helps
Have these sources been there? I think we'd all agree to believe people who have been there and not those who haven't.
So unless these sources have been there....why should we trust them?
Put a stickie in it and helps remove the ambiguity.
MW and Ifus shareholders are the victims here. Justice and payback is coming from both. Shareholder lawyers say we have a strong case and regardless of what Ifus does as a company, we have rights and can literally go after them for the same thing. Theft, fraud....with liquidated damages.
No escape SA and JS. You and you cabal are going to get an education. Both sides of the legal system! Civil and Criminal.
Why don't we stickied that post?
Nice post Peach and one that should be stickied for reference purposes. Points directly to the actual cut and paste comments and the court's decision. It also displaces the batter - babble about what's said, context....
He said, she said at best and the context is wrong. At the end of the day it's been dismissed and for blah blah blah who cares...next issue.
My error in this message. My ooops for the day.
lol. Better ask SA and JS what they offered to settle. They offered to serve that patent up on a silver platter. lolololol.....not get it back. ..they're willing to package and personally deliver it....
Actually, company records show they were terminated for cause. This is also in the court docs. Keep looking and you'll find it.
Nothing frivolous? I'd say when you file KNOWING your gonna lose and the only thing it does is brutally cost the opposition money for legal and court fees....which we WILL recover soon...I'd say that's frivolous.
I think the translated quote from Cesar applies:
"Men gladly believe that which they wish for. (Caesar)"
One might ask the SA clan if they are "winning" or "losing" the case. They'd like to believe what they wish for...but...not to be.
And as for the mess.....the ONLY mess was left behind by the boot boys when they were TERMINATED for cause AND with shareholder blessing....thanks to MW, IFUS is in business.
See previous posts on the facts...martin quotes it all the time. Boot boy's chance of winning? See the above translated quote.
Your absolutely correct. The boot boys are caught and they used the fed case to buy more time and tried to get evidence dismissed. Nice try but unsuccessful. They went after summary judgements and an assortment of other strategies thinking it would overrule the state case. Again, nice try but no luck. It was an attempt financially to push MW into a bad situation. What they didn't expect was for MW to get the resources to move forward. I'd say MW's performance is exceptional.
He has proof
Excellent points. SA and JS had opportunities to make it right and have blown it. They've hurt the sharehokders and it's time to pay.