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Hey Jersey!
You have done great with the dd in the past. I got excited about the thought of merging with Actsoft, but I know that until it is offical, anything is game.
I have a suggestion....when the bad taste leaves your mouth from this experience, why not give FM a call. Maybe he couldn't give specifics or even an inclination of what will be released in the case conference about the merger (SEC rules?). I don't know, but with nothing but circumstantial evidence, the jury has decided on a verdict without giving the benefit of a trial :)
All I am saying is that why would he intentionally mislead you. The stock didn't rise much or fall much from when you shared your opinion on the merger. So what does he have to gain?
We don't know if the merger with Actsoft is a no go, or if it is what was behind it. It could be the pres of Actsoft messed up.
I am not saying Frank didn't yank your chain, but until we know more we don't know anything. His intentions, whether he was kicked off the board or whether he left by his own volition.
I hope you don't let this experience dampen your sharing dd with this board.
There is a difference between being wrong about what is going to happen based on what info is given to you and from purposly misleading for your own gain. I don't think he was trying to mislead, so in my opinion, his integrety is intact.
Man, if you count all my mistakes against me, I am in the red where integrity is concerned:)
lol
I was wondering about that too!!! sounds like the housing market here around New Orleans after the hurricane....one neighbor put his house up for sale for $215,000 and he got an offer of $260,000 from someone who hadn't even seen the property!!! He sold it of course :)
How do we know if they moved him out or if he chose to go, or if this wasn't in the game plan a year ago? We don't....the fact is, this is a start-up company who looks to be doing a lot of things right!!!
The board of directors for Home Depot gave themselves big raises and left the shareholders hanging at the last shareholder's meeting..heck, from what I understand, the CEO didn't even show up. That is a big down turn for a company that was doing a lot right.
Now we have a 2 year old company where the board is taking stock in lieu of money as their paycheck. Hell, I wouldn't work that hard for free. The focus is shifting from research to marketing.
Also, this in my opinion is not a big setback except to those in it for the quick buck:)
Lippy,
I think there are two main types following this stock. The longs and the shorts. Yeah, the shorts are probably in for it today, but for those going long take heart, this is a shift in the cycle from R/D to sales. Our time is comming. I'm disappointed it isn't now, but this company is doing what it takes. The pps will go up. Can't tell when, but it will :)
So if the stocks plunge today I will be crushed and have a hard decision....do I buy more on sale, or just stick with what I have :) Good luck to all today with your stocks!!!!
I think HISC will survive. And while I enjoyed some of the ideas BadDog preached, I have to agree with most of them being deleted because of the way it was presented. He had as much info available as everyone else...took a bad slant on it, but presented his speculations as fact (when he didn't know it was true, he felt it was true).
Plus, there is no way to tell if his feelings were right until we wait to see what happens in the next few months.
No need for an appology. I got into HISC before I knew about ACTSOFT. I admit, I did have dreams of taking a year off work, but , ah well.
HISC still sounds like a great company, it is just I'll have to wait until next year to retire.
I knew EVSI was basiclly a shell company.....it didn't matter what busness they were in, now it is whatever Frank makes of it.
And since everyone is speculating, here is some of my speculating on what happened:
I don't think Frank and the board necessarily had a big fight and they booted Frank out. It sounds like Frank wants to use the new company to purchase others. Who knows, maybe it may even end up purchasing ACTSOFT later. And if he lead HISC to this level (which is where there is lots of potential), then who is to say he didn't make a great move and the new company won't do terrific?
Here are the key things:
1. They didn't say that the new company is worthless. There may be lots of assests or business agreements that may make it a good company.
2. HISC has done great so far (I know the pps hasn't, but the company seems solid and that will eventually carry up the pps).
3. ACTSOFT/HISC merger didn't go through, but I haven't heard it said when that decision was officially made. It could have been today. Not likely, but possible, and would explain why Frank didn't say much in the conferance.
So basiclly we know that we have stock in a company that has some pretty kicking sells pending and a good partnership with ACTSOFT. We are getting dividend stock in a new company that may be worth squat, or it could turn into a diamond. Doesn't sound all that bad, just not what I had hoped.
Hey, if I was expecting a Lambourgini for $1000 and I got a Viper instead, I would be just as disappointed, but crazy if I refused it because it wasn't what I expected.
Well, we will see what tomorrow brings.....GLTY
Didn't think about that one, but I guess we find out tomorrow! I will miss the conference, but I am hoping to catch a good synopsis here:) Night all!
Lacy, I don't think you have been overly negative. And I'm real posive about that :)
Isn't the conference after the market closes for the day? If so, then they can release a pr prior to the opening of the next market day....I don't know if my line of reasoning is accurate. How soon do they have to release a pr before talking about it at the conference?
I don't see what a good pr during the day has to do with info released at the conference. I know you are anxious about the stock doing well, but the two do not have to go together. I think if anything, a pr would be released after the conference or even next week. I would expect it, but no telling. Can't judge a company's value solely by their pr, unless you are daytrading :)
Grom,
you haven't lost anything unless you sell for less than you bought. I would be in the hole now if I sold, but haven't yet. Eventually things will get better with this stock. Maybe they will even get someone to professionally do their pr's for them. Then there wouldn't be as much confusion.
Until I sell, I haven't lost anything here.
I think it was post 2190
sounds plausable to me...any other possibilities?
I'm not sure, but I think it would be something in the background, otherwise, they could have gotten the shares over the last few days for around .06
I wonder if it was done for an exchange of services. I am new at this, so I don't really know, but it seams to me that if an exchange was made over a few different times then the average exchange rate of stock could have been estimated at .10
What do ya'll think?
I don't know if it's good. I think I'm gonna chalk it up to another badly issued pr. I don't understand the math they used to get an average of .10/share if they sold 11mil shares for $500,000. But you are right. It does show that other companies are interested.
Hey...I just had a weird thought...maybe they did some sort of weird issuance to them. Like buy one get one free! Buy 5.5 million shares at .20/share and get 5.5 mill free! That would average to .10/share!
Really, don't know how they got the figures for their pr, but I have a feeling that whoever is in charge of issuing pr's for this company doesn't know what they are doing. I don't feel like there is any scam going on. I just think they should get someone else to do the pr's.
It's not do or die time for me....the stock price might drop for a while if the CC is delayed again, but heck, that is just more of a buying oppertunity! I think this is a good company and that the stock price will start to grow. But I have to admit, I am kinda anxious about when it will happen :)
Pilgrim Petroleum Announces Close of Private Placement
IRVING, Texas, Jun 19, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation (Pink Sheets:PGPM), an independent oil and gas company, announced today that the company has agreed to sell 11 million shares of its common stock to Energy Source Private Equities Fund from Toronto, Canada and TJ Management Group with offices in Texas, New York, California, at an average 10 cents per share for a total of $500,000. Both companies are Institutional Investors on the Energy sector, which is a positive opportunity for Pilgrim Petroleum to qualify additional large Investment Institutions once it begins fully reporting.
Rafael Pinedo, Pilgrim Petroleum President and CEO said, "Great value and confidence bring Institutional Investors to any public corporation, we are pleased to have these groups on board."
About Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation
Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation is a publicly traded company (PGPM). Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation is an independent oil and gas company based in Irving, Texas. The company is acquiring oil and gas leases, producing properties, mineral rights, and surface interests in Texas. Once acquired, the company intends to develop each property to maximize the income from each property by refurbishing and improving the existing production.
Forward-Looking Statements: The statements which are not historical facts contained in this release are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to, the effect of economic conditions, the impact of competition, the results of financing efforts, changes in consumers' preferences and trends. The words "estimate," "possible," and "seeking" and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements, which speak only to the date the statement was made. The Company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, because of new information, future events, or otherwise. Future events and actual results may differ materially from those set forth herein, contemplated by, or underlying the forward-looking statements.
2006 Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation. The information herein is subject to change without notice. Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation shall not be liable for technical or editorial errors or omissions contained herein.
SOURCE: Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation
CONTACT: Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation
Eddie Monet, 619-864-0166
www.apetroleum.com
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Why is this company buying for .10/share? Wouldn't it be cheaper on the open market????
I can't wait for HISC's stock to start moving up...up..up. That way we can get away from the babish name calling and get more civilized here. Nothing wrong with a little comic releaf here and there, but this whinning crap really needs to stop.
Oh, for those who are emotionally fragile, I really sincerely appologize from the bottom of my heart for offending you by this post....:)
Has anyone heard anything new about HISC (or is it HISS)? That is something I'd like to know....some articles list the company as HISC and others as HISS...any good ideas why?
Now that was good info...thanks for the update!
Where does it say that the "certain assets" were the CT or Acusoft? It could also be property....or even management rights....it could be a lot of things.....all which have been promised to be cleared up at the teleconference.
Not knowing does not equal confusion.....making decisions on mistaken information or having false assumptions does equal confusion.
Hey Fenwah...
I see on your profile you are a senior consultant....of what?
If it is anything to do with stocks, then remind me not to have anything to do with your picks, since your take on me was done with almost no dd:) (unless you have been talking to some of my ex's, but that dd is over 5 years old now):)
But on the other hand, I have to thank you for your post. You make my argument for me:)
I cannot agree that spence has been deleting too many posts....he hasn't shown that he is just looking for positive posts on this board......if I were to post that HISC will go up to .15 tomorrow and I know it because they didn't say it wouldn't in their pr release, then I would expect it to be deleted. This is because I am stating speculation as a fact to influence other's positions in the stock.
I have seen some posts that were very enlightening on this board...both positive and negative. I think the problem is that some are posting inaccurate information based on gut instinct and having no factual basis. This does nothing for good discussion. The moderator's job (imho) is to do their best to enable the sharing of ideas and insights. So if people don't want their posts erased, then simply state what is factual and what is their opionion.
Good job Spence!!! and I wouldn't want your job here on the board even if they paid me.....the fact that you do it for free shows how crazy you really are :)
I found this on another bb:
IRVING, Texas, Jun 15, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation (Pink Sheets: PGPM), an independent oil and gas company, announces record in its well servicing unit. The Company has received a record of 17 workovers and recompletions of marginal wells from June 1st to June 14th 2006. They are now in full operation and producing between 12 and 38 BOD in average. The majority of the remaining wells are expected to be delivered by the end of the fourth quarter of this year to our existing properties.
Rig services units utilization remains high in nearly all our properties. Thanks to Basic Energy Services (BAS : basic energy svcs inc.BAS26.17, +0.29, +1.1%) , our production has improved. In addition to the acquisition of Daniels Well Services, the company will benefit this quarter from an increase in production, over 45% of the last quarter.
Stephen Richardson, Pilgrim Petroleum Vice-President said, "Thanks to a superior performance of our field team, we will bring more wells on line throughout 2006 in order to increase our residual revenue."
About Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation.
Headquartered in Irving, Texas, Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation is a publicly traded company (PGPM). Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation is an independent oil and gas company based in Irving, Texas. The company is acquiring oil and gas leases, producing properties, mineral rights, and surface interests in Texas. Once acquired, the company intends to develop each property to maximize the income from each property by refurbishing and improving the existing production.
Forward Looking Statements: The statements which are not historical facts contained in this release are forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to, the effect of economic conditions, the impact of competition, the results of financing efforts, changes in consumers' preferences and trends. The words "estimate," "possible," and "seeking" and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements, which speak only to the date the statement was made. The Company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, because of new information, future events, or otherwise. Future events and actual results may differ materially from those set forth herein, contemplated by, or underlying the forward looking statements.
2006 Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation. The information herein is subject to change without notice. Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation shall not be liable for technical or editorial errors or omissions contained herein.
SOURCE: Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation
Pilgrim Petroleum Corporation Eddie Monet, 619-864-0166 www.apetroleum.com Copyright Business Wire 2006
Nah...don't know him, but he seemed to put up a good summation of positive aspects of HISC as a company. The board I got it from was Equitygroups.com
BadDog, I still can't figure out why you are still even reading on this board if you think HISC is worthless.....unless all you like is the arguments, which if that is the case, it doesn't say much for your character. If you think it is that bad, then just let us burn in our own fire...you shouldn't care one way or the other..
I agree Spence!!!
Okay, I am trying to figure out why some people don't have anything better to do than run down what others are trying to do....I think there is always room for contrary theories as to what is going on behind the scenes at HISC, but come on.....to bash someone's ideas so intensly just kinda shows that someone is really lacking a life....or maybe they were bullied too much as kids and are trying to compensate for the humiliation by doing it so others cannot "get back at them."
I say present your ideas in a civil manner, disagree with others as you choose, but be prepared to back up what you say. State facts as facts and share opinions of those facts.....and wether you feel "screwed" by HISC,or that now is a prime time to buy shares, it doesn't really mean anything pretaining to reality except what your feelings are. It is all speculation.
Baddog and others are "bashing" so bad that it makes me wonder what is wrong with them....Maybe the only way they can get any attention is by bullying and pestering...because they can call HISC just like others have and have the answers to their questions and share some quality dd. I do like that they bring different ideas to the table, but I don't like that I have to sort through a lot of pubesic rant where they just belittle themselves to get to the little they have actually offered.
I am new to trading.....and new to this board, so I don't know what others feel about my opinions, but I am sharing them anyways.....
I saw this posted on another aboard....not as detailed as the dd others have done, but at least it is a little more positive than some of the other posts today. This was in response to someone who was really down on HISC:
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From: Joe Montagna
Date: June 8, 2006 11:14:52 AM
I have researched this stock over the last year and have determined it’s potential. Since then, I have acquired 1,200,000 shares. Here are some old and new information regarding Homeland Securities that explains why there is potential and unlike Ron will remain in this stock until it explodes.
1. General Georgiou is the President of Pro.Sec, a leading Middle Eastern security company. Pro.Sec has recently entered into an agreement with Homeland Integrated Security Systems to purchase over $8 Million of Homeland Integrated Security Systems' products that they intend to incorporate into the security systems to protect commercial buildings and government installations. The $5.5 Million order for the Cyber Noze Division Trace Detection unit is in addition to the $2.5 Million purchase order Homeland Integrated Security Systems received from Pro.Sec for 5000 Cyber Trackers.
2. Jan 23, 2006 -- CyberKey Corporation (OTC:CYKC.PK) and Homeland Integrated Security Systems (OTC:HISC.PK) are pleased to announce the signing of a multi-million-dollar joint sales and marketing agreement. Both parties estimate that sales of the Cyber Tracker(TM) will be in excess of $6 Million through CyberKey Corporation.
3.Homeland Integrated Security Systems, Inc. (Pink Sheets:HISC) and WM Robots, LLC, announced today that they have signed a distribution agreement for MR 5 ROBOTS and CUVSS 'Under Vehicle Surveillance System' to be distributed by the Cyber Noze division of Homeland Integrated Security Systems, Inc., in both Domestic and International marketsAs part of the agreement, Homeland Integrated Security Systems, Inc. will be responsible for the marketing and distribution of CUVSS "Under Vehicle Surveillance System." HISS will receive approximately 30% of each unit sold, at an average of more than $90,000 per unit. Homeland Integrated Security Systems anticipates the market for the CUVSS 'Under Vehicle Surveillance System' to be more than $25 million in the next 3 years.
4.HISC.PK) has signed an agreement with Rent Finders USA, Inc. (RFDU.PK) for Rent Finders USA to purchase a minimum of a half a million dollars worth of Homeland Integrated Security Systems' Cyber Trackers to keep track of its field agents. The agreement gives Rent Finders USA exclusive rights to sell the technology within the real estate industry. These rights to "Cyber Tracker" technology, which will be marketed as "Agent Tracker," are extended in exchange for a guaranteed minimum of $500,000 in sales for three years, with initial orders to begin immediately. The companies expect sales to be as high as $1.5 million over the next three years.
This is some of the individuals that are going to help this stock sore.
1.Homeland Integrated Security Systems Inc. Retains Former President Bush Appointee , Barry Bennett to Head Governmental Sales Division.
2.Homeland Integrated Security Systems Appoints Nextel Executive, Chris Panel, as director 3. Adam S. Clough, a former Nextel Executive, as the new Vice President of Corporated evelopment. 4. Homeland Integrated Security Systems Appoints Fred Wicks as Chief Operating Officer Mr. Wicks has previously worked for a $13 billion factory automation company called Invensys and for Rockwell International Corporation, Inc
Lastly, here was some news that came out recently. Weston, FLA., Jun 06, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Wall Street News Alert's "stocks to watch" this morning are: Technest Holdings, Inc. (OTCBB: TCNH), Homeland Integrated Security Systems, Inc. (OTC: HISC), Smith Micro Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: SMSI), Plantronics, Inc. (NYSE: PLT) and SmarTire Systems Incorporated (OTCBB: SMTR).
Well if good profits and a solid product line in not enough to stay, then I am not sure what is.
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Hey Jimmie, did you find any new info????
nice find 711tc! thanks for the dd you are doing!
Wanda
just kidding around....things sounded too serious for a while....
Psychic Stock Reading!!
Okay, no need to fret!! I have just completed a course on buying and selling stocks using emotiopsychic measurement of all bulletin boards!!!
And I just got a impression (which the guy I payed $5000 to said could never be wrong) that pgpm will close today around .0821 or thereabouts...and that the last sell will be around 1 million shares!!! This is too accurate a reading ...come on....0821??? And no one would guess a final buy of 1 million shares of pgpm...so the reading has to be legit!!!
Can't wait to see if this works!!!
I have a question....The big guys in the company are forgoing pay and instead are receiving their salary in stock...at least as reported in a past PR. I know this must be good as it shows confidence of the higher ups in the company.
They repurchased 20 million shares to lower the outstanding shares and hopefully to increase the pps as less stock would be on the market. I know some companies do this to increase pps instead of paying a dividend as the stockholder can avoid paying taxes until they sell their shares.
But if they are paying the big guys in the company with stock, isn't that increasing the number of outstanding shares on the market? Just something I was wondering.
I have 48900 shares in this company, a small ammount as compared to some who are invested with HISC, but unless the price moves up, my wife will kill me :)
I do have concerns on what happens to HISC after the stock dividends are divied out, but if I were an executive in this company I probably would be more concerned with the company as a whole and not so much the stock price. Take care of the company and the stock price takes care of itself in the long run.
It seems many here are very emotionally attached to the stock price...so much that they appear to bash when the pr's don't advance the stock price. I can relate to this attitude as I grew up a LSU fan. I heard LSU fans complain about Nick Saban saying he didn't know how to coach in the SEC and that he should be replaced....they said this all the way until it was released that LSU made it into the NCAA championship game! So a lot of what I am reading sounds a lot like college/pro game calling.
Most know only what is released by pr's, which doesn't say much. I hope that the worst scenario doesn't emerge, but if it does, well, I am also a New Orleans Saints fan and am used to disappointment. Really, I have good feelings about this stock.
I hope all make plenty of money and hope to see less name callings and put downs (unless good natured of course)in the future.
why would they have 8 MM's active in this stock if it is going down?
Okay, one more, my ameritrade account shows the last purchased price was .15, but when I look on the level II chart on ihub, I don't see it sold at that price for the last hour. My last question of the day, I promise :)
Thanks, I couldn't figure out if more were offering a lesser price if the value went down. But now that I think of it, if more are on the asking side, then there is a greater chance that one will cave in and sell at a lower price....do I have it right?
Okay, I am new at this, what I know that 3(14) x 2(15) is that the ask is 15 and the bid 14, but how value this reading? I guess I am asking, if you have more that are asking 14, is the price momentum going down, or up?
Hi all!
I am new to following HISC, and please correct me if I am wrong, but a big difference between HISC's product and other products are that you can communicate directly with the device without using a cellphone. Or, for the technology being used with future cellphones (I read somewhere they had a contract with a wireless provider) you can use the gps feature and talk on the phone at the same time.
Other products you can either use the wireless device or the gps device, not both at the same time.
If I have my info straight, that makes it a very appealing technology.
Also, another enticing aspect is that the CT product is only one of a few products that the company is offering to the public. They have others that are with different governments involving detection radiation detection devices, etc.
This company is only two years old. I don't understand why so many are being hard on a fledgling company. I think it has lots of potential, and that after the teleconference, interest will perk-up a bit. But that is only my opinion, not necessaraly the reality.
Anyway, thanks for letting me rant....and thanks for having me as part this community!