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Men went to the moon? When did this happen! Did they catch a ride on the alien Mother ship? And Holland has a mail system? I thought they rode bikes, wore wooden shoes and stuck fingers in a dike.
Now, the above is pure speculation as I know men have never been to the moon and that aliens exist... the earth name for them is, Democrats.
As for lying, liars, and such, the stock price history of GERS speaks the truth for Kevin and the company. Multiple r/s, low stock price, little volume, no current SEC filings... all point to the truth. If KK was a 'liar' then there would have been great moments of pumping and dumping... none exist or existed. All past SEC filings and news releases show this.
And, as for BTZO, maybe the complaints to the SEC about GERS ended up on the wrong desk, you know, the one run by aliens (democrats) aided by a man who thought men went to the moon, and also mailed Dutch a letter...
On a serious note, I personally think the glass for GERS is way more full than empty, but I also believe the earth is flat, only 5000 years old, and when the government officials say, "Trust me" I believe them. And finally, when the SEC gets complaints by anyone investing in a company that has been flatlined for so long that no one has made any real money... I believe in that too... and the Easter Bunny, and, and, and...
This stock is booooring... but, it definitely follows a pattern.
In the past, insiders purchased a lot of shares. Then, management switched hands and in my opinion, executed a better business plan.
Oen of those items was the purchase of UV- flu technologies.
Don't know the particulars but do know the company mentioned issuing shares to stock holders of UVFT.
Now, recently the stock price of VYST has slowly dropped to the lows it is currently is at. I wonder? Is the stock to be issued dependent on an average price of VYST for a certain period?
It will be interesting to see if the recent price drop is based on something like that as otherwise the years news has actually been pretty good.
Also, checked the price of UVFT and see it too, is near the bottom.
Good question.
In the past year, Atis has come into the picture, new judges, new legal stuff, a brief flurry of BTZO volume from .0001 to .0002 (I made a 100% profit albeit on some few shares) And now, the first time since 2015, some 'news' on Greenshift website plus the filing of the appeal... It's anyones guess but dutch answered the question the best.
I'm sure there will be some profit for BTZO shareholders but in my opinion/plan, is IF any good news comes out that also impacts BTZO shareholders (myself with 1,999,998 shares of BTZO) I will take any sudden profit and run away from the company as I don't see it having any real business model.
And, I like Greenshift better as they are the folks mentioned in all the legal stuff to include Atis.
Good investing to you.
Yay!
Yippee!
Yes!
The real question should be, now that the appeal is official, what will happen to the stock price if there is a settlement/judgement positive for the company?
Yay!
It was nice to read something new on the Greenshift website.
A lot of information was provided.
Now, I can speculate some more: thinking the infringing companies are going to try and come to a settlement. I know I would if in their place. Sounds like the Federal Circuit has a much better experience judging patent law than the late judge that presided over the 'Hell'.
If, if, i-f, monies/settlement/good news comes out for GERS, I for one sure will be happy I kept investing in the company.
Nice to see some people posting links and info.
The 40th 'business' day should be today or tomorrow and I'll see if I'm correct if there is a filing later today or tomorrow.
Pacer indeed has good information.
I disagree. There is no 'pumping' of any kind going on for a company that has a stock price locked in with an average of .0003 and some days touching .0004 and recently, a lot more volume and trades at .0002. So, no pumping, just posturing of emotional expressions designed to evoke reactions to a stock that currently is actionless.
I posted a few moments ago that if the price does not go up on some kind of real news then I want people to sell and get the price down to .0001. The past few weeks have seen much more trading/volume in the .0002 range so soon there might be an opportunity for buying in the .0001 range, and that is a range I look forward to.
Nice huh? Happy if the stock price soars, happy if it tanks. Pumping and bashing at the same time.
So, sell, sell hard, drive that price down...
So, get some real news and soar DNRG, tell us you have some income, some real financial news and let this price soar to the moon so I can reap some great profits.
So and so and so...It would be nice though to get some kind of news from the company be it good or bad. Come on Neal, get cracking.
More volume/trading than normal.
What does it mean?
Not a damn thing unless buying or selling
Lots of talk about GERS not filing. About mediation. About the appeal. About Attis. About KK. Even about patents...
Got to thinking. From what I know, the U.S. Patent office upheld the patents in dispute. Thus the question, if the Courts rule against Greenshift and side with the infringing companies, who owns the patents? For that matter, would the Courts tell the U.S. Patent office that the Court is right and the U.S. Patent office is wrong?
I know for sure that the patents exist. There are the names of those involved with the patents and process. Simply put, it looks good for GERS as for the patent rights.
Government against Government (Patent Office against Court) Sounds like jello wrassling or mud wrassling.
If I were to file a letter of complaint to the SEC regarding GERS this is what I would write...
Dear SEC. My name is Ice. I am writing to complain about a company, Greenshift Corp (GERS) that I have invested in for many years.
During those years I went through many reverse splits yet invested anyway as I believe that the patents of the company were infringed upon.
During those years I noticed the company filed SEC filings stating the performance of the company. They also filed the many reverse splits that lead to my owning many shares to finally owning nothing.
Then I read that GERS was entering a further legal battle with infringing companies and even started mediation after getting legal representation with companies that they let investors know they were getting that representation.
And then... the SEC filings STOPPED! Yes, as an investor I was kept informed on the legal battle through a legal system called, Pacer.
But the SEC filings have STOPPED!
My current investment in GERS has been stable for many months... but SEC filings have STOPPED!
I'm scared and have gone to my 'safe spot' where I watched kittens playing with kittens while chanting "OHm, Ohmm, Ohmm..." yet still, the thought that the company has not filed SEC filings since the current round of legal battles have been going on is driving me crazy as I want the stock price to soar and then I can make a lot of money.
So, I want to file a complaint. I want to complain that I know full well what I got into when investing in this recent round of activity and as such have been stuck with the same, 'kitten playing with kitten DVD'. Is there anyone at your office that can send me a link to a better 'kitten playing with kittens' or maybe, 'puppies playing with string'?
Also, I firmly believe that Pres. Trump has somehow caused the company to stop filing SEC filings, all under the strong influence of Pres Putin from Russia.
Anyway, please take action and have a nice day.
Sincerely.
Ice.
SEC enforcement and chicken bones.
"I used the medium of casting chicken bones and found the answer to be that many investors in GERS are not making wise decisions because of the lack of filings..." Sounds stupid right? Reading chicken bones? So does the factthat anyone considering investing in GERS knows full well (with a little dd) that GERS is deliquent in filing.
SEC fully enforces the laws of the investment world but ONLY if MONEY is being made or lost, not when some disgruntled investors want some quick clarity so the position in a company they own will either plummet (so they can sell short) or rise (so they can bank some quick profit.
KK and all members he is associated with are fully lawyer'd up and are getting much better legal counsel regarding the SEC and legal battles against the infringing companies than anyone posting nonsense on a message board.
GERS will file. People will make money. People will lose money. And tonight, the sun will set.
Of course, the fun with the medium of consulting the bones of a chicken is that one first gets to eat the chicken...
Sure.
All one has to do is send some emails worded in a particular way to some companies such as LGE, Dominovas, SOFC, and then, compare the results. It was an eye opener. LGE was most interesting of the lot.
Now, one thing that has been also very interesting is the fact DNRG has not bounced around in the .0001 even though no news of any sort for over a year. Every other penny company I've dealt with has always bounced off the absolute bottom. So why hold fast at .0003?
Why are so few shares traded at .0002?
The fact DNRG is still trading at all is interesting.
As you can see, the word 'interesting' appears a lot in this post.
Check out what SOFC is up too. Check out what they do.
All very interesting. And yes, if DNRG starts to bounce in the .0001 arena, I'm gonna have an interesting time.
So, let the selling begin!
Did some research on the current state-of-affairs regarding Dominovas Energy.
Liked what I read so if you're a disgruntled investor I would appreciate anyone with large blocks of DNRG shares to sell me 100 million shares @ .0001/share.
I'm supposed to get a final payment on some property I sold and feel $10,000 would be worth investing in DNRG, especially at .0001.
So, how about it? Maybe someone out there will start to sell large blocks and drive the price down? Get the herd panicked and thus cause owners to think, "Gee, someone knows something, I better get out while I can..."
Of course, happy now with my millions of shares now but greed is a wonderful thing, especially at an all-you-can eat buffet!
Ha! Hee! (and) Gee!
Interest in DNRG is strong enough that the stock price has not dipped to .0001. Interesting??? YES! Even the .0002 price has only enabled some people to purchase a small amount. Yet, .0003 or .0004 is definitely strong.
I suggest anyone holding that has lost 'faith' to sell the shares to me at .0001 I LOVE! .0001 at this juncture (until some kind of news, any kind of news, comes out and the price goes to .0008)
Something is going to happen for DNRG. Maybe horrible maybe nice, maybe fantastic. My 5% optimism far outweighs the 95% realization that I lost on this investment. And that folks, is what investing in penny stocks is all abut! (about, my inner Canadian coming out)
Get baked!
Dominovas Energy Corp. (DNRG)
I invested in this company back when it 'popped' and saw it on the investorshub Hot! a few years ago.
Lots of hype. Lots of volume. Lots of promise. Lots of Pr's. Tweets. Facebook. Then, silence.
A letter from the CEO going on more than a year now. No news. Nothing public. Some detective work shows a shadow of DNRG activity but nothing tangible.
Posters are now few. Blog activity nil. For all intents and purposes, a dead company...
For me, the Africa deal of the Rubicon was something I was looking forward too. Neal stated in the letter they wanted to go 'big' and the timeline stated was two years.
June 2017 is when Neal said this. That makes next June the two year anniversary. Will something happen? Odds are... no. But odds are just that, a chance, a slim chance sometimes, a sure shot other times, yet odds are odds.
What can be seen is that any investor can currently purchase stock in DNRG and any investor in DNRG can sell. The price is between .0002 and .0004 and has remained in this area for over a year.
Now, if any news released now that is verifiable or real, the pps will go up. That is if the news pertains to energy or the companies plan. If the news is BK or DNRG announces some silly restructuring program that hopes to sell sock puppets, then the price is .00001
I own over 10million shares and desire some good news so I can make profit, the odds are slim and if I gave a % chance I'd say it's less than 5% but it is what it is.
It is interesting to check the stock price everyday and maybe one day Neal will announce some nice, real news.
Penny stocks are just that, a 'penny for your thought' and most become worthless quickly. And my thoughts are, I'm stuck with over 10 million shares of DNRG and they are worth much less than a penny, a penny price I wouldn't mind right now.
nope
GERS will not be prosecuted for any lack of SEC filings unless there suddenly is large trades and wild price swings DUE to something the company is doing to cause such practices... Such as, massive dilution, massive pr's, unreported insider trading, ANYTHING that causes the stock PRICE to make certain people (insiders) a lot of money.
Otherwise, nope, nope, nope. Complain all you want, maybe the wind will hear you and blow a little harder.
Anyone investing in GERS for the past year know full well the status of lack of SEC filings and since Slash and some others are kind enough to publicly inform GERS investors on the current legal via Pacer and such, there are no surprises, no massive volume trades, no one is making a lot of money trading GERS...
S0oo, nope, nope, and nope.
"because they haven't filed anything with the SEC since the third quarter of 2016.
© 2018 InvestorsHub.com, Inc."
that is and of itself a filing of the state of GERS, thus there are no innocent investors in GERS unless someone just types G-E-R-S and makes a buy based on random chance.
anyone who now invests in GERS does so based on personal choice.
this company is not trading at any price other than what buyers want to pay based on current understanding nor less than what sellers want to receive for their shares.
talk of personal attributes or negatives for KK and company are mute when it comes to reality.
the SEC will not get involved unless certain lines are crossed regarding money/trades/volume/other
and why do people have hair growing out of their ears?
(stretching) Yawwwn... (smack smack) Okay, so what's up with VYST aka 'booooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnggggggg........' stock?
Oh. Look. Above normal volume today. Must be news. Let me check...Oh. Okay. They paid off more debt. That's good.
I'm likely the new management and their attempt at taking the company in a positive direction. Maybe they will succeed, maybe not.
Looking forward to the next earnings report to see if any of what the company deals with is budging, bulging; going up.
Ethanol:Ethanol, also called alcohol, ethyl alcohol, grain alcohol, and drinking alcohol, is a chemical compound, a simple alcohol with the chemical formula C
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Thus by association of his many years in the business of ethanol, KK mayconfuse some commenters to think he is a drunk. Now, some drunks are very good thinkers. Bill Clinton was an example. Julia Childs another. I myself love the fermentation of grain and fruit. Even a man called Jesus, loved wine so much he turned water into some good stuff.
Now, all the drinking aside, it is nice to see the legal system grinding through the process. Heck, might even raise a very large mason jar filled with Clamato and Old Crow if GERS stock price goes up... Wait a minute... I will drink one anyway just to keep in practice... Cheers!
slash, don't have pm (too cheap to pay $14 a month) but did it and so good luck in your investing.
You go for it. Go hard, long and far.
five "I", one "I'll" and one "me", shows the world you're secure in yourself.
Now as for GERS, when KK says/releases something with "I" or "I'll" or "me" in it with some good news, I'll go for it. Going hard, long, and far with my few shares of GERS.
Good luck to you, hope you succeed with your complaints, sales, and investing.
Sure it's wild, but what were the amount of shares traded? 10? 50? Or maybe a whole gob 10,000...?
As for your .04 shares, try and sell them at .06 and see how far you get.
As for the SEC taking an interest in this most boring of boring stocks, good luck with that.
Profit is only profit once the shares are sold and the money is in hand. Paper profits are meaningless.
This stock price will move on news, either up or down. And that news will then be the catalyst for an SEC filing, or not.
SEC (and the world where logic is deemed stupid and stupid is deemed logic)
I had a 'higher up' from the SEC charter fishing with me up in Alaska.
Since I've invested in the market for years and years, I had some questions for him.
Needless to say, the logic is stupid thus it is logical. Anyway, my gut feeling is that the SEC would seek quickly to go after complaints in a company, (especially all those ugly stocks out there) that have WILD stock price fluctuations. That they'd go after all those little companies that have instant 1000% gains on NO NEWS! but then news comes out that 'someone' knew before.
GERS: 1. No WILD stock price fluctuations. 2. No huge volume. 3. No profit for 99.9% invested for years. No NEWS!
So stupid logic states that when KK files again or releases news (AFTER)the lawyers say, "Go." The price will INCREASE IN PRICE DRAMATCALLY; either UP or Down, depending on appropriately timed use.
So, so no news, no volume, no profits. I firmly believe the SEC has much bigger fish to catch than a 300 traded share/day volume of a known company that has not filed SEC filings...
So, so, so, I want the SEC to investigate GERS after I make a bazillion dollars and the SEC has to step in to stop trading until the zizzle dizzle cools.
Nah, all the fish in the Great Lakes are gonna get eaten by those flying carp...
My shares of DNRG are like itty bitty sardines... they will draw the hungry predators to feed upon them IF if i-f, DNRG releases some kind of positive news.
Fish? I love fish! I'm currently fishing for profit with all of my DNRG shares in the 'long term'capital gains pond.
For bait, when DNRG announces any news of any kind other than BK, I'll set the hook and reel in some other investors who need shares.
For those so disallusioned with DNRG that they 'catch and release' good for them. I like MEAT!
Thus,I see activity for DNRG swirling in the pond. And if a big shark comes along, there will be plenty of chum in the water.
Bottom line: Snag some DNRG shares, preferably my shares at a much higher pps than current.
And remember, there is no limit on how many shares you can keep!
they gots some great songs. maybe gers will gets some great news someday... maybe (thud)
Nice find
Age and common are truly relative terms via definition. DNRG is a symbol for Dominovas Energy, a small company that will one day surprise you young pups that are so common in today's investment arena.
Now, Google is no friend of anything other than itself. The ego of Google is far past immense and as such it uses the magic of its power to enhance the 'king with no clothes' image it has taken the few short year it has existed.
The simple reason you post and (obviously) read posts here is that you have an interest in DNRG. Maybe you're invested, maybe not. But you definitely have an interest to take the time to post the common thoughts you have about DNRG being a scam.
Since it is obvious you will not loan me money for investing in this company maybe you can answer a question based in speculation. The question is: What IF i-f, if, DNRG releases concrete, positive news complete with a legit SEC filing? Would that cause you to change your view, maybe even your alias?
Now, ego is truly powerful, so too pride. IF, i-f, if, DNRG were to suddenly cease operations and the CEO quickly moves to Angola with three wives, I would then say DNRG was a scam. Now, would you say DNRG is a success if the pps soars on good news?
DNRG, got some? If not, get some. Something good this way comes.
No... it's luser, not loser or looser. Of course, the use of word depends on the investor posting about DNRG. Myself, I'm in the camp of, loose. Carefree and loose.
I touch an abomination every day, and it feels good!
Good to see you check in though can't see the obvious scam you are referring to, so this leads to the main part of this post. Would you please loan me some money so I can invest it all into DNRG?
What does rolf mean? Could it be, real opinion fly loose?
Anyway, I have an abomination to go touch. OH yeah!
"I spend a lot of time with the hardest natural substance in the universe."
I know, women truly are harder than diamonds, let alone just trying to figure them out.
Go GERS!
Whoohoo!
(thud)
welcome to vyst. a boring stock but when your restricted shares are available for trading, maybe the stock price will be better.
Last couple of news releases shows the new ceo is serious and so far I like the performance.
Today the stock prices bumped up decently and if the plan management has, such as eliminating all debt does actually happen, I think stock holders will do nicely.
And thus the, 'risk and reward', factor is exposed.
The risk for GERS has always been failure from the courts which translates into .0001 or nothing for the price of the stock.
The reward for GERS is a judgement in its favor which translates into a very healthy profit for stockholders.
People sell and people buy. So, if more shareholders lose confidence in GERS and sell than those wanting to buy, it will just make the price of buying better for those who want to buy.
Market dynamics are interesting. For me, I liked what I read but will keep my opinions/take on the recent filing to myself as it will bore most people.
When DNRG did not go through with the Rubicon in South Africa, it felt like a kick in the (censored) but then the CEO wrote the letter explaining why almost a year ago. It helped me feel a bit better but still, with all I've invested, I did not feel all that good.
Now a year has passed. Absolutely no news, no SEC filings, all horrible actually, YET, for all the (censored) the stock price has not hit the .0001 so many other companies have done. Countless companies actually.
The stock price has been pretty well set between .0004 and the occasional .0002. No real heavy volume days (matching the no real news for a year) So, it is interesting.
Neal owns a lot of DNRG and for me, his letters are well written.
I can understand that hopefully the management learned a lesson about the fluffy PR's that lead to nothing were NOT a good thing, thus better to be quiet than blubber with a stupid news release everyday like so many other companies do (marijuana stocks are notorious for such releases)
IF, if, i-f some news is released and it pertains to an SEC filing or actual revenue, or ANYTHING substantial, it will be interesting for stockholders like me. BUT, if the CEO comes out with another letter that is well written and filled with nothing of value, then I think we'll finally see .0001.
Or course, all in my opinion but MAYBE we'll see...
Great news! (finally)
Excellent job to the current management. NHS, inventory, contacts, and I really loved the number they released for anticipated revenue.
Looking at the insider roster it reads like a medical journal.
Wonder what share price this company can reach this year? Maybe .30?
Maybe 1.00?
Whatever, at least the news is not good, rather it is great!
Wheee!
Don't have any dependents though when I get older I'll probably need to wear some depends, but I suppose it all depends. And, 'yes' I dislike diamonds immensely. The most worthless piece of rock ever squeezed into existence.
Now, speaking of existence, GERS sure has been an interesting experiment in pain/investing.
I've talked with other people (much smarter than me though they like diamonds so really, what is IQ?) anyway, when asking about patent infringement and specifically GERS situation, I get a whoooole lot of different answers.
Some say, "Patent infringement is a way for some patent holders to just muddy up the court system and get some money. Even heard of (some company) just pushing the boundaries." And then others say, "Yeah. GERS has a really good case. Just look at (some company) that sought justice and won."
Hard to believe we live in a world of lawyers and litigation. But then again, we also live in a world where people pay huge sums of money for a piece of carbon pressed poo.
So, in a weird way, maybe GERS might be a diamond. Getting pressed and pressed and pressured until it shines one day. And if that happens I won't throw it away, I will sell it.
I know diamonds also... Diamonds suck the soul of those who possess them. Now, Copper... that is worthy indeed! And also emeralds opals, and sphene's.
For me, GERS is a finely aged copper with a luster of green tinged patina.
If I had diamonds I'd throw them away, not sell them, throw them far, far, far, away.
Another thought.
Regarding the lack of filings for BTZO and GERS.
Some have said CC is the one advising KK.
My thoughts now that I read how the infringing companies are boo-hooing about legal costs is that the less information they have about GERS finances the better it is for GERS.
Sorta like a divorce where one of the parties try to hide the stash of diamonds or a sports car.
If this is somewhat in the neighborhood of possibility as to lack of filings then it will probably stay that way until after the court decides on the legal cost structure which I believe is in June?
So then maybe GERS will start filing in July. Along with BTZO.
First, thanks for the court information.
As to the future legal battles I take it as positive as I always see the positive side, even if impossible.
The 16 million legal bill is fully understandable and the delay tactics also. This proves the 'powers' (infringing companies) know full well what will happen if they lose in the appeal. So they are using all weapons available.
Of course they still may prevail as maybe GERS goes under before the end (worse case scenerio) OR by all the stalling and mounting costs being accrued, and the companies lose to GERS... (best case scenerio)
The 16 million dollar legal bill will be pocket change compared to what they'll have to pay.