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We can ask that same question of all our parents???............waste of time.
Its NOT laughable at all. Any other response would be laughable.
Take a clue from your own name "NOMONEY"............Duhhh.
Yes.............you are a small fish that has no money.Now if you e-mail them and say you want to buy a few units for $3 mill each................you would get a response,IMO.
It is on NO benefit to them to deal with small time DD gatherers, why should they?? They are not a feel good retail operation.They don't have shareholders.
You are just bothersome noise......like some NEW comers that just arrived from the Res bought a few shares and are now lingering around the this bus station.............without enough money to buy a one way ticket home.
You see..................they where tossing nickles against the wall hopping to make it big, but lost 50% of their money.So, they don't know what to do since the chill of the night is getting to them and they are running out of Swisher Sweets.In their pathetic desperate state..............all they can do is attack and cry out for "money"
Off course the locals who have been in this for many, many years, feel sorry for them. They try to come over and help the tender feet out by making some easy to read "smoke" signals that they can understand. But alas..........to many years on welfare have done their evil work and have retarded their ability to hear and see things as they really are.
So they get mad and trash the buss station and attack anyone who visits them while they gather around the proverbial fire hydrant doing what dogs do best.............next to howling at the new moon and blaming others for their plight.IMO
Investor?...........I told you he was a basher from day one.Never met one I liked..................go back to the res.
Brezz..........why should they buy back now? If the game has really been going on so long, for years, why panic now?
There where plenty of times when they could have panicked in the past and did not.Why not?............because they have never performed yet.So far they would have been right.Brad Kinne scares no one...............especially not the big boys, may be young girls............but hey!.........
IMO,The naked short point is to wait for (total bankruptcy).If they get that, they do not (ever) have to cover and there are some good tax benefits that make it worthwhile to wait.
That is why they would be there still after all this time...............Plus if you short, and decide to start a new short position say at .001 and it goes to zero.You would still have a 100% gain.There is no reason to say they are not there.
all speculation............we will have to see if there really is a boogy man in our future.
LK:...........I guess girls just think differently than boys............:)
The way I understood it was they had to DD Poland to make sure they would do what they are supposed to do on their end of the deal.That is all................
I would not be able to deduce any thing else.When you start to deal in hypothetical s it becomes exhausting and almost a waste of energy, because it is just a mental chess game with not enough information.
We have all the information we need right now to make a choice.If the information makes us uncomfortable everyone has to adjust their portfolio to suit themselves.This is still a risky investment that has great potential.
At some point it could turn into a great investment with great potential...............we are not there yet.
LK.I did try to answer a little why they were not there on EQ board.I was told that they would not show up until after the DD was done.The DD is complete regarding IPWG...........it is just not done regarding Poland.I think they chose to stay away because it might be some conflict of interest during this process.
I also think that this is a very competitive field and they keep their cards close to the vest until the deal is closed.That is why we know so little about this partner.I don't think there is more to it than that.I think they are trying to prevent any problems,IMO.
If all goes well we will find out more,...............but really, once the check ($$$$) is there.That says it all for me.
I don't think we are going to be able to do much more DD ourselves regarding that aspect of this investment.It is either going to show up...............the money..........or it is not.I think the only thing we can do is manage our risk and that is about it, and that may be limited right now since some can't sell. It is what it is.
If it was all Hooie.................it sure is a lousy way to play what ever game they are playing.This is so freaking weird that in a funny way it adds credibility to the story.Some one else posted a similar view point.............and some how it rings true to me............:)
Sounds like you have been reading the urantia book
Ebb and bear: All I did was transfer shares out. the way Scott tried it thought the Dtcc it did not work.They told me they would transfer them manually.What ever that means? and it could take up to a month.It took two days.................i don't know how they did it or even if I understood it correctly.Fact is they are out.................and they transferd all the shares not half like I asked.
Question is.........is the whole transfer a mistake or a blessing.right now it appears to be a blessing................yet I am not selling.I did a test sell and it went worked.I also bought more on e-trade yesterday at the close and it worked.
I don't think I can buy through scott right now.I can try................but it will not work.so the chill is on for buying and selling.
Now Ebb.I know you mean well and think "your" generation will change the world. Every generation thinks that.I hate to tell you.........but it is a very simplistic and sophomoric view of the world.
The end result of many using force in the "disguise" of love and world peace or environmental enlightenment...........whatever the new catch phrase is, has always failed.
the Russians tried it, the red Chinese tried it, many have tried it..............end result was.........the killing and starving of millions.Society is a reflection of all the people in it.Enlightenment or self change is a personal journey by the individual.........not a mass movement.
If it is a mass movement it is wrong and doomed to failure and heartache for many.The world is a perfect reflection of how messed up everyone really is.It is not in your power to change others.........ey are doing their thing and will change when they want to.........not before.
Osama Bin laden is thinking he is working for god and changing the world.Nothing is further from the truth.Look how wrong he is. Mental illness reins in this world..........face it, lock your doors, love your neighbor............but don't turn your back on him.
Take the advice of an old hippie environmentalist who has tried to change others............let them have their case of whiskey, they are learning a lesson. If we use up all the oil for gas,OK.............let God worry about it and make more.
99 % of all the animals that have ever live are gone.Climate change is cause by natural sun cycles..............not pollution.I a hundred years..........everyone here is gone, not your problem, climate change and saving little fish in a pond.save yourself first..........then you have something to say, or not.Most likely not.............IMO.
All that hooie that you where ranting about, is to take you away from self change and self responsibility.You are being sold a bill of goods.
Change your self...................and the world will change naturally without any effort.That is the only power you have.
If the guy wants to say in Christ....so what? The reaction is in you.Change that reaction.........he is not the problem.It is your perception/projection that is the problem.
IMO and Off topic
You are right. I transferred all my IPWG shares out to e-trade. I bought more IPWG yesterday at the close. It took less than a week to do.
You should be a long term investor.How can you be a momentum trader on a stock where there is hardly any(momentum buying) allowed.Aren't you going to loose money that way??
Today was the best buying opp since the Pr announcing the 375 million MOU.Today the vote passed and you where handed a super cheap entry point
Here is the rule.....buy low.........then sell high.Not complain when it is a great buying price?? If it was not for these "ridiculous" games.........nobody would make any money.
Me thinks you need to re-think your strategy.YOu may be more of a long term investor by the way you are reacting?.IMO
PS........long term investors can make a fortune by buying right and walking away for a while.Then you come back one day and you are rich. A momentum trader goes crazy every day just to make a penny if he is very lucky ..........hard to do.
If only sells are allowed and you are short.that would drive the price of the stock down.Now those trading restrictions don't apply to market makers of course.
IMO, they are short and will continue to buy up shares in this distorted market by those weak hands that sell right in here.Those shorts only have one way to get these shares cheap..................and that is to do what they are doing right now.
Now this behavior seems to match the story line given by IPWG itself at the meeting when they said they are going after anyone who hurt the company.
I could be wrong.............any other scenarios on how to explain all this I like to hear it.
To sell any stock right now is just crazy................but weak hands are always around. I find that amazing how dumb some people can be....IMO
Our financial partner has assets of 5 billion.we are approved so far for 375 million
They will have the 375 million after the DD.This vote part of that DD...........he seems very confident
IPWG to get 66% of Poland revenue plus carbon credits.35 million a year projected revenue.
They are getting a lot of public response and interest in the company.Benvengo thinks in time we can go back to our previous highs........not today, but with time.After the DD period and then the funding.
Engineering for project in Poland to begin end of year.Add power part still on.Narec in charge.Prospects for purchases of add Power
Carbon credits division in early stages in company.Very well suited to make about 2.7 millon in revenue alone from Poland per year.
we are three weeks into 45 day due diligence for the 375 million project.IPWG will also get a management fee on this money as it comes in.
IPWG has made great progress in the last few months ready for great success and ready to become a bench mark in industry.
that is what benvengo read to us.
Questions now
on phone. Benvengo going after all persons that caused harm to company.We have 375 million, cost of Poland 108 million.the rest of money for other projects.predicts revenue by end of this year.
lawyer working on freeze, more answers later.IPWG NOT to have done anything wrong.They are working with sec.
They are still counting...............no updates yet .......all quiet before the???
Here is an interesting update of transferring my shares out of scottrade.It started about five days ago.Today they all showed up on my E-trade account................go figure??they said they would do it manually??....what ever that means?
I did not ask to move all the shares just half..........but they moved them all.I hope it all stays there and there are no problems.will keep you posted.
they are still taking a 10 minute break while they count up all the votes..........tick,tick..............tick
Yes, that is right.1.5 billion out and they are taking a break now while people who have not voted vote.No questions so far,only procedures of getting a quorum and seconding the items for vote.....................
bear,I have tried to ask my local Scottrade broker if the chill has been lifted and so far he did not see that on his screen. He told me he would do more research on it and call me back.Interesting.............
The meeting is at 9 in the morning. A good PR would help give the meeting something to talk about.Right now they can only talk about public information.............there are no details or juice stuff to get everyone exited,IMO.
I have had that very same thing happen on various pennies when there is a lot of volatility or (other)things going on. they will let you sell most of the time, but will restrict your purchases if they feel it may be risky.
They often will let you place the trade if you call them direct.They just make you run thorough few hoops so that you don't complain latter saying "I didn't know this was risky......sniff,sniff,whine,whine"
We have created a society of whiners ...........so the firms have to overly protect us, since we will not take self responsibility for our own actions.We always want to blame others.IMO.
Try calling the broker and see if they will place the trade for you.It may work that way and ask for the internet rate,IMO.
I was able to buy yesterday on E-trade,BTW and they may be transferring/receiving my IPWG shares..........since they no longer show up in Scottrade.I think they are in limbo flying thought the air to their new home at e-trade as we speak.I will let you all know when they arrive.
So far it has only been five days and all the other shares and cash have arrive in less than three days.Not bad service by both sides so far.
Hey.........very cool. Thanks for all the work.So happy now............(-..-)
Yes...........that is what i want. My own wylie.............please.
Hey Callie?..........how can I get a a coyote for the bottom of my posts.............I gots to have one.Beep...........beep
What matters now is getting the vote and then the money. If they get the money the deal is for real.
You could get tons of e-mails confirming things like the 19 hectars and it would not matter. What matters is the financing .........that is all.
Lots of these kind of deals you will not be able to confirm them. It depends on who is doing the negotiations.Even if you happen to contact the right people they will not confirm it to some unknown person in an e-mail...........are you kidding.IMO.
I now see it on almost all the pink sheet quotes on pink Sheets.
There are different levels of pinks. they now break it up with depending on which level they are on of Pinks. Quite of a few of mine now have the warning. Has been around for a few months.
IMO.........these boys want to fill the gapp below .006.Look for timber! falling................lets see if they can do it. I am waiting for cheap ones.
Ohh.....that warning has been there for a long time since they stopped filing. It is a recent thing on Pink Sheets that they do now.. Not connected to the chill
Vuduuuu!.what are you talking about? I don't see any filings or news?
I have an account with them.I just tried to place an order electronically .would not let me
I did not get any where.they will not talk about it and say it it is the brokers responsibility to talk to you/me.......
Too bad no body proof read t4he article. There is a typo where it say it is a 11 mile trend on a 194 acre property??? (194 acres)......?? that looks good.......not.
Batt:.....exactly what I got........a slap in the face.
Has any one gotten anywhere by talking to the DTCC??.............all I get is the run around.
Ebb:.......do you mind re posting the number of who to call at the DTCC, .I have not yet and feel it is time. I just can't find where I put the number.Thanks
Brez:..........That is an interesting thought and is coincidentally what I was also thinking about in a foggy manner earlier today. Now you have made it clear what I was sensing. Actually it started with a memory of something said by the "one" who has received a message from God.
He mentioned that he always had a plan to get even and knew others who also enjoyed and like to participate/where specialist in getting " naked short" I blew it of at the time because I did not believe......!!
Is it to much to believe such a thing could actually be executed by our little IPWG? Gosh...Batman.....what a trap!!!
If your premise is true, then may be we CAN accuse the company of being 'genius". I don't know......may be it is just late and we are imagining things.............but that would be way too cool, worthy of a large bronze statue at the minimum.
I might even bow before it if such a in the first degree move was made and executed............Gosh!
Actually............may be they (some) have taken the bait or certainly believe your premise.......hence, partly a reason for the big chill.............(to prevent the perceived big exit out of town) and to prevent competition for those shares, and now a (perceived) fail safe short??.............Hmmmm?
Plot counter plot.................wolfs in sheep's clothing.All way too much. Its been a long day/year.Where is Dick Tracy when you need him??.........
Stk:...........I think you/all of us may haves some miss conceptions when Scott mentions fraudulent shares.I think the term is applied to the naked shorting issue,IMO.
I don't think some little guy in Calcutta was printing phony shares certificate or any one else was. I think "THEY" are caught with their pants down shorting millions of shares for a long time.
"THEY"normally keep going along with this practice until the company goes out of business. That is the goal and then, they do NOT have to produce or (cover) or return the shares they borrowed to sell short, because the company went broke.Its a perfect scam if you are big enough and smart enough and rotten enough.Its brilliant in its evil..........
You see,IMO again someone allowed this shorting to go on with ought proper adherence to the rules, for a cut/percentage caring charge. I would assume Secondly they knew or looked the other way when there where NO certificates to make these short trades legal.Third they shorted a penny stock,which is not allowed.
Now that a "miracle" has happen and a stock that was NOT expected to live, suddenly comes alive with possible money.OOPSS!.......To make it worse for whom ever went along, is that IPWG is going to get a newly issued cuspid number(counter chess move of the century)
This will require all the short trades to add up!.........but they can't add up because the short trades where not done properly, because THEY where the (fraudulent shares) or trades.They where the ones sold short with ought a matching counter shares to BALANCE that trade.Now..they are exposed and have to some how come up with some shares............from where?
They can only go to You, the ones who own the only real shares with certificates.Anything you bought from Scott they have to produce a certificate for you. They clear the trades in three days. Its their darn problem..........not ours.
So the powers that be, and the people shorting this now have to figure out how to balance it???.......No wonder they stopped clearing trades, its obvious.
The little secretaries at Scott or where ever don't now what is going on.......how would they? Its all illegal. They are underlings and just give you a can answer or their best guess...........they don't know is really going on.
IMO, this is part of large crooked game in the industry. Normally they succeed and the company goes out of business and the book keeping is swept under the rug, since there is no requirement to balance the trades of (fraudulent short sales)when the company dies.Why should there be? its dead.
Now, all of the sudden there is a need to balance.............but I think that this (crisis) is factored into the cost of doing business by the big boys.They will survive..........so should IPWG and may be even prosper if I am right.
I don't know the details of the rest of the future story, may be others know. It could be settled and negotiated in some way may be. I don't think the little plebeians (us) are at risk. Heck, we are on the outside looking in. Scottrade is responsible to clear the trades for you or their firms are. They are liable and at risk. Not the common share holder.
It is their business after all. We pay our fees they make a profit and take the risks.This should be an interesting story to watch unfold.We have to watch for now..................we are chilled out of the game for now and it is costing us money.........how does it feel?? IMO.
Thanks...........I found the shares now.