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Glad it made sense. I could have kept listing supporting evidence (articles, quotes, pics...) but most know the ZJMY EV DD and it would only be repetitive and a time sink for me.
No, as I said in the post, I believe they are ZJMY EVs in the pics and videos.
I'm just saying if others believe they are knockoffs, ZJMY should sue since they have the Z trademarked for vehicles. Obviously, if they are all ZJMYs, they wouldn't sue themselves for trademark infringement.
I will concede that the official info (PR) has only confirmed the battery business, BUT the evidence strongly shows they are an EV company. I think this month we will see the new PR pushing the fact that they are also an EV company. Instead of saying "will launch, or developing" the verbage will say ZJMY launched this EV, or developed that SUV.
Most bang for their buck. Introduce the battery part first, then hit the public with the whole EV this month imo.
Welcome to the group, "our" cars. You are correct. Chery and Long Star. Maybe more manufacturers. That should streamline the production process. Official launch this month imo.
Maybe ZJMY will let them use the battery tech as part of the deal.
Why would Chery and Long Star try to sell their own EV's side by side with ZJMY's EV's using their (Chery and Long Star's) bodies if ZJMY's EVs have far superior battery tech with superior range?
Chery and Long Star are business savy and will not want to see their own EV lines suffer. IMO, they have made deals on the tech. This way, a limited amount of cash by either party is needed up front for production.
MO's stickied post: Translation of signing ceremony.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132687180
Is ZJMY just a battery company? You decide.
Note the Z is Trademarked by ZJMY for vehicle use! ZJMY should have a juicy lawsuit on all those impostors using the Z on all the cars we see in Pics and in a couple videos as well!
IMO, they are ZJMY's EVs!
xZ's post on the Super Surprise Game Show Video showing the SUV with a Z.
http://www.letv.com/ptv/vplay/28668757.html
Ha ha! I had to double check. Make sure I didn't make a bonehead math error.
Right, or 1 yuan equals 0.15 US dollars, as I used in my calculations. Same thing.
Majority shareholders = Major Investors DD.
(I know you posted the link, that was part of my point).
From the .gov.cn website we see our company, check. Zongji Ming Yang New Energy Technology Company., Ltd.
I see the mysterious Wang Dequn as the legal representative, check.
I see Shenzhen Jinbo Investment Holding Group Co., Ltd. That Jinbo connection again. Check. Not to mention the Jin Bo Zhong Ji Ming Yang Motor Trading Company, Ltd. Another Wang Dequn enterprise, double check.
Okay. I'm going to change this part and assume the translation of "amount paid (million)" is off. Let's be conservative and assume it is in Wan, which would be more consistent with the Tianyancha numbers.
From Flo's post we see 10 wan = 100,000 or 1 wan = 10,000.
See Flo's stickied post on The Financial Job Description translation.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132630871
I'll repost it later tonight when I have time to edit it. Been busy at work.
I was thinking about picking up some of the shares our neighbors are throwing out on the curb myself.
I waited about 7 years on one penny stock I owned before it came to fruition. I got in DOLV in early May. Easy for me to wait a few months. I'll hold my core for years if everything continues to check out.
Looks like we just hit a Stop Sign to me. Just look both ways and we will be off again soon.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/marketplaces/otc-pink
That was in the first amendment I believe. I was referring to the second amendment (not the right to bear arms).
https://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=DOLV&id=175375
Amendment 2 for 1st Quarter correction to shareholder's equity.
TOTAL LIABILITIES & SHAREHOLDERS' EQUITY
3.7 milly in amendement 2 versus about 2.8 milly in ammendment 1
Numbers corrected for same row for period ending 12/31/16, new one about 700,000 higher there.
This is a must read, Translation of Press Conference/Meeting Video.
Great Work Mad Onion. You can't make this stuff up!
Long Star Video. The Long Star-ZJMY Connection is getting stronger all the time, and looking more appealing I might add.
Did you watch the Long Star Promo video? It shows the factory and cars galore. They look like a good company to have business with.
Video Center
From 4/29/2016
A long time Star electric car business promo - a long time electric car
http://www.jiujiuxing.net/a/jingdiananli/116.html
Great post BobDude. It's why llhabela and I have been saying for over month now that the Ticker change is not long overdue. Especially given the 60 day wait period for a corporate change.
Patience is paramount.
5/24/17 My post supporting BobDude's point:
Why I think the ticker symbol change is not long overdue imo:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131627833
Agree. Like you said it was worth a shot. Figured it was probably a "long" shot.
I've noticed that same thing on the Tianyancha site. About a month ago or so it said that ZJMY Nanning branch was not active, closed or something to that effect. When Floridany posted on the Nanning Branch on the 13th, it appeared that it was active again (I could not find the inactive, or closed part). If the Nanning Branch is active, it will come into the merger. If it became inactive and was consolidated to another ZJMY location, it obviously will not be part of the merger only to the degree it is part of the other location. I expect there to be many JB&ZJMY locations throughout China over time, probably any city they establish the battery swap stations in.
6/13/17 My reply to Floridany talking about the Nanning Branch.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132139322
6/13/17 Floridany's post regarding the Nanning Branch.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132137916
Have you been able to access the Tianyancha site?
I haven't been able to for the last couple weeks. That site seemed to be the most complete on job postings and other details for ZJMY. It lists 57 companies (enterprises) for Wang Dequn. More than the 40 we've heard about many times.
6/15/17 Tianyancha site listed 47 job postings when other sites listed in the twenties. It was also more detailed on the job descriptions than most other job sites. The Tianyancha site keeps all the job listings posted even if they have been filled or closed.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132199041
6/12/17 My post containing Floridany's posts regarding the 40 plus Wang companies. Also includes a screen shot from the Tianyancha site, listing 57 Wang Dequn enterprises. You have to be a member of Tianyancha to be able to see all the listed companies though. I am not.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132092540
Daily list shows ticker and name changes. Finra posts one business day prior to the effective date.
http://otce.finra.org/DLSymbolNameChanges
It has been stated that a company can request an effective date (which I agree with). My understanding is that if everything else is in order and completed by the company, Finra will honor the company's date request for ticker change.
Valid question. Should coincide with company name change request.
My broker informed me that anytime a company goes through a name and ticker change, a new cusip is assigned. The name change from Dolat Ventures to JB&ZJMY Co. was on May 3, 2017(amended) and filed May 8, 2017. That coincides with the new Cusip number date.
See Name Change pdf under History on WY SOS site. The Cusip number in the post by Somethinggood matches what has been confirmed by many brokers. Call yours for confirmation on the CUSIP. My broker confirmed the new CUSIP. Tick Talker's post contains a screen shot toward the end of this post.
https://wyobiz.wy.gov/business/FilingDetails.aspx?eFNum=217161243108068011203050228075228024036162237117
From DD compilation courtesy of BobDude.
On 05/02/2017
DOLV new Cusip Number assigned: 4661021000
by FINRA for name change.
New CUSIP and Registration of Marketing Arm Name
-CUSIP occurred on May 2,2017
-Marketing Arm Name occurred on May 3, 2017
5/4/17 Somethinggood post on new cusip.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131069474
Duly noted, somethinggood is coming our way soon.
The true waste of time is reading poster's comments and claims (either pro or con DOLV) with no substantiated supporting evidence or with no DD backing.
I will post my opinion and my speculations occasionally, but I try to base it on and back it with researched and cited links, articles, pics ect.
My only agenda is I am an investor, and as such, will research DOLV in detail, especially where I have a good chunk of change allotted.
Board "pump" has little to no sway on the DOLV stock price. That's because it's not pump, it's continued research and findings. I filter out any wild unsupported claims.
I'm on a high speed JB&ZJMY-named train. I'm proceeding with caution at high rate of speed. DOLV long!
I'm a solid 3 and partial 4 for these reasons:
References for statements found below.
1 - Like Daveymoore said, the battery is the EV. ZJMY holds the Ace with the battery tech. Many manufacturers can make EV bodies and frames, only one company has the best battery tech with longest mileage(1).
2 - We are an EV company!!!!!! As Illabela777, said, we have Chery and Long Star (imo, others) to manufacturer the shell(bodies) and JB&ZJMY provides the pearl(electric motor and battery). We're selling EVs not just batteries. Again, we're selling EVs not just batteries(2). I get it, nothing 100% confirmed by the company for orders, but 99.999% supporting evidence that ZJMY is selling complete EVs is good enough for me. Remember July launch.
3 - Our EVs are for sale, Battery/motor/electronics/bodies and all(3).
4 - JB&ZJMY Holding Company. We are a holding company, Jinbo is bringing in all EV related companies imo(4). I don't think all the 9 business segments will come in, at least not soon. Jinbo's Smaier for example, was uplisted to the new four board in China earlier this year. Why do that if your coming into the DOLV shell too?
References
Paste all links in google chrome and translate, or use your own preferred translation method. I've included translated excerpts.
1 - Battery Superiority
http://www.jingtezmt.com/baorun/wap_doc/4216852.html
July launch mentioned here, but I believe other places as well.
The Haitian Feast article posted 12/8/2016 mentions July.
This article or a version of it has been posted by many different entities.
http://www.jingtezmt.com/baorun/wap_doc/4216852.html
Translated Below:
Jin Bo Group 500 km battery life longest electric car, the pre-subsidized price of 28.8
December 8, Coquimbo Group in Ji Ming Yang New Energy Technology Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as Ji Ming Yang) electric SUV faceless Sanya, Hainan Rendez-Vous, the use of the car is Chery 's production talent, Chery Kay Wing V3 channel evolved, the appearance of the fuel version of the Chery Kay wing V3 generally no two.
According to Zhongji Ming foreign supply of vehicle parameters, the electric SUV operating conditions of the distance of 500 km, 60 km constant speed range of 640 km, is now on the Ministry of Industry and the new energy car directory life of the longest electric vehicles.
Zhongji Ming Yang V3EV pure electric SUV exposed face Hainan Sanya Haitian feast exhibition
According to the millet during the Ming Yang, chairman of Han Zhiming, the car is now in mass production now, is applying the new energy automotive directory, estimated next year on the market in July, before the subsidy offer is 28. The 8 Wan yuan. If 2016 national subsidies in accordance with the 2016 annual allowance, 2017 national subsidies for 44,000, according to local subsidies and state subsidies 1: 1 accounting, the car after the offer is 200,000 .
Zhong Ji Ming Yang, chairman of the board
Chery Kay wing V3 electric SUV use charge-replacement contact, usually in the slow charge can be used in the pile, then the line can be used to change the way. Manufacturers promise battery lifetime warranty, if the electric car to the invalid period, led by manufacturers operating companies charge for electricity to 50,000 offer yuan to recover the battery. So the operator, the car's cost-effective now in the market of electric vehicles is still very competitive, the outcome of the future victory depends on the vehicle control experience.
According to reports, this electric car Qi Ruikai wing V3 target groups for the private car users and network users about cars, and now has been about Mouwang domestic car company signed a 100,000 intention to order vehicles. To be satisfied with the network of vehicles connected to the operation of the need to co-exchange mode, now by the Ji-Ming Yang to take the lead in the establishment of rechargeable operation of the company is now in Tianjin, Henan, Wuhu three cities began construction of power stations, the program first three A city as a model city operations, the future can be joined through the chain.
Haitian feast mainly yacht, real estate and a variety of high-end days to show the main brand, the car company exhibitors are also more to car, luxury brands and other exhibitors, Zhong Ji Ming Yang pick in such a show debut, presumably also hope that with all kinds High-end brands on display at the same time in order to give their own electric car brand a more high-end positioning. But because of the Chung-ming only brought a show car, we have no test drive at the scene, the late details can reach the desired effect, but also need to look at the details of the late vehicle function.
The forefront of the car information, the latest technology and new car interpretation, the automotive industry know nothing about all know what to do, find the car to send micro-signal: wanchepai, one in hand, three days to become auto experts.
Thanks for the clarification. I agree on the free buses paid for by the government and by other investors imo. Laughed at the "Two Tou Cow" statement.
With Jinbo's assets and connections it is unlikely that JB&ZJMY needs funding for bus production. Some may be concerned with the crowdfunding part. Obviously, JB&ZJMY is a business and can't hand out buses that are around $400,000 a piece for free.
Could Jinbo finance the bus manufacturing? Sure, I believe so. However I think they want JB&ZJMY to be self-sustaining. Jinbo is pushing the entrepreneurial spirit in China with the internet/E-commerce/online payment business segment. I also believe they are trying to give financial opportunities for the locals in China, a way to keep some $ within the country. Again, win-win scenarios.
If JB&ZJMY wanted to fund all the buses, they could just post a company PR for DOLV (JB&ZJMY) showing a few hundred thousand orders and the price would go up to dollars imo. That does not seem to be how they run the business. They don't seem like they want to siphon off too much money off of DOLV investors for running the company (probably will some, but are keeping many other funding doors open). Their goal is Nasdaq.
I see the actual financing job as working with local governments, municipalities, larger industries and maybe even individuals to provide funding for the free public buses. From my understanding, the financing is not a charitable donation, as the job posting states a "signed revenue agreement."
I see it as investors(cities, local govs) help pay for the buses, sign a revenue agreement and then receive investment income until they are paid back some multiplier of the initial investment (maybe 10-20%). Some of the revenue could come from the battery swap stations imo, with other revenue from EV orders. JB&ZJMY wants to get Evs and buses on the ground and create residual income fro themselves as 1000's of EVs and buses come to swap out their batteries daily. Batteries will be leased,or there will be a payment before each battery swap. Remember the battery swap demo video where people swipe their credit card on Jinbo's point of sale, online payment system (ironically), and then get the battery swapped.
Residual income is how many millionaires become and stay millionaires. They can easily pay off their bus investors and then have all the money they need in a few short years.
I don't see it as an actual 100,000 bus order, but as a company target for the person who gets the financing job. Correct me if I'm wrong.
https://www.zhipin.com/job_detail/1412173228.html?ka=job-8
10 million [100,000 translated by Flo] public service bus, the basic salary. The commission is calculated at 10% of the aggregate level. There are financing, p2p, fixed investment, funds, projects and other customer base priority. The company ensures that the investors are safe. (Five times the purchase of goods, signed a revenue agreement, the equivalent of pledged pledge and other multiple protection.) To ensure that all financing managers and investors to invest in investment safety and investment income.
I get where your coming from. Thanks for clarifying. That's true, the official company PR on orders is what we are all waiting for imo.
The PPS will be order driven; orders are the battery for the stock price. Just like our batteries are a step above all others, I think the official EV orders once released will shock and amaze us. It will be a matter of trying to pace production to keep up with the orders.
The most official order to date in my mind would be the 80 buses for 30 million mentioned on the ZJMY website, but it even says the Bahamas "intends" to spend 30 million. I intend to do a lot of things that sometimes I don't do. However, I do fully intend to become a millionaire.
http://zhongjimingyang.com/Nens_2.html
ZJMY website expires on 7/14/2017.
I don't know the ins and outs of websites or renewals, but I would think that the website will be updated/renewed by the expiration date of 7/14/17 or that more likely JB&ZJMY will let it lapse and debut their new website/new domain soon.
http://website.informer.com/zhongjimingyang.com
Old ZJMY website:
www.zjmyxny.com/ (http://www.wangdai110.com/show-6094.html)
Current ZJMY websites:
http://www.zjmy888.com/
http://zhongjimingyang.com/
Future website (courtesy of Flo, not open yet):
www.jbzjmy.com
Possible other domains by JB&ZJMY:
www.jbzjmy888.com
www.jbzh.com (whatever the new ticker symbol ends up being)
Straight from the Quarterly Report:
Products:
The Company is based in China and holds a number of Chinese pending patents and
pertaining to long lasting batteries ideal for use in electric automobiles. The Chinese electric
vehicle market – according to Bloomberg – became the world’s largest in 2015 with 507,000
cars sold, and is expected to reach 2 million vehicles by 2020. The Chinese government has
provided subsidies to help car makers achieve large scale production of electric vehicles, and has
encouraged taxi fleets and government agencies to use electric automobiles.
The company has developed a small, low-cost, fully automatic, multi-function
rechargeable car power plant recharge system. It is a new type of nickel-manganese multi-phase
lithium-ion battery: a new material system, a new process, the new battery structure, the energy
density per kilogram to 180W, 50% higher than the same specifications lithium iron phosphate
battery. JB has also developed a prototype SUV electric vehicle (“EV”) that is able to go up to
600 km (373 miles) on a single charge and is called the “Millet Ming Yang V3”.
I guess the press conference on Electric Vehicles was a misnomer and should have said EV batteries.
JB&ZJMY are launching vehicles in July. Expect to see wheels, tires, bodies, frames, windows, electric motors, batteries... all formed together into a nice looking vehicle.
Two guys won't be packing out a battery for the July EV launch. That would be awkward.
See my earlier post on Bus price point straight from the COMPANY website (very public information). They are planning to sell BUSES not just the battery.
I feel I am whipping a dead horse.
Sorry art35, I have to completely disagree. This has been put to rest by Floridany many times and is not debatable imo.
JB&ZJMY have suppliers for the bodies and chassis but will still sell EV cars with the Z symbol. Like a sandwich company that produces the meat, but gets the bread and condiments from other suppliers. The battery is the meat of our EV sandwich, most important part of an EV.
If JB&ZJMY makes the electric motors and batteries and uses other manufacturers for the bodies and chassis, they are still ultimately providing a full EV for sale as seen in the countless photos.
I guess there is no true "Car" company anywhere if they get parts from other manufacturers. I'm pretty sure Ford doesn't make a Ford battery for their millions of vehicles. Are they only 98% an Auto company, since they have suppliers for the batteries?
Business Description on my brokerage account (like many others):
DOLV Dolat Ventures Inc vs. Peers
No Peers data currently available for DOLV
Company Background
Dolat Ventures, Inc. is engaged in manufacturing batteries for electric automobiles. The Company developed automatic, multi-function rechargeable car power plant recharge system, which is a nickel-manganese, multi-phase, lithium-ion battery. The Company's battery offers an energy density of 180 watt (W) per kilogram. Through its subsidiary, JB & ZJMY Co., Ltd the Company developed a sport utility vehicle (SUV), which is an electric vehicle (EV) that can cover a distance up to 600 kilometers (373 miles) on a single charge and is called Millet Ming Yang V3.
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/DOLV/profile
Business Description on OTCmarkets.
Business Description
Dolat Ventures, Inc., through its subsidiary,JB&ZJMY focuses on the business of electrical cars and their support systems. Currently, the company plans to launch two type of cars to the market; the electrical car with max range of 330 Kms and an electrical SUV model with max range of 500 km. Both vehicles will support recharge models and battery swap/change technology.
$375,000 per bus. Clearing up the bus price point:
I seen all types of numbers thrown around. This should clear it up.
80 buses for 30 million
30,000,000/80 buses
= $375,000 per bus
100,000 buses at $375,000/bus
100,000*$375,000
= 37,500,000,000
or about 38 Billion as Floridany and I have stated.
BYD buses are around 1 million I believe.
Straight from the news section of ZJMY's website. Click on article title next to bus picture in the news section. You can translate using google chrome or another method.
http://zhongjimingyang.com/Nens_2.html
Here it is translated.
President Han Zhiming contacted the Bahamas government commissioner
April 28, president Han Zhiming to carry the company vice president, technical director to Hubei Xiangfan system production base, approached the Bahamas government commissioner, negotiate on the Bahamas government to buy my company new energy pure electric bus matters.
President with the Bahamas government commissioner visited the company's system production base, to show the base of the production line and related technology, and then demonstrated the base of the production of new energy automotive products. The Bahamas government commissioner expressed a keen interest in the cars we produced, and had a very positive affirmation.
The Bahamas government sent special staff to visit, mainly to negotiate the purchase of our new energy pure electric bus, and invited my company in the Bahamas to establish system production workshop matters. Commissioner said that the Bahamas government intends to spend 30 million US dollars to buy my company 80 new energy pure electric bus; then I will send an invitation to the company, invited my company in the Bahamas to establish a system production workshop.
The cooperation of my company also has a special significance, this is my company and international standards, to the world's first step. President Han Zhiming attached great importance to this cooperation, and expressed his expectation of cooperation with the Bahamas, and said he would make every effort to promote the cooperation and achieve win-win!
President Han Zhiming led the Bahamas government commissioner to visit the system production base
System production base of the production of new energy pure electric bus
The Bahamas government commissioner personally went to the company to experience the company's products
President Han Zhiming brought the company technical team with the Bahamas government commissioner
I'm not going to celebrate too prematurely, but the job postings keep rolling in!
That could still be a shakey translation. It may still have something to do with pay for the job. I have to agree with another post: unlikely bus orders would be part of a job posting, but possible.
It may be a forward looking target or goal too, not a verified order.
However, if it does refer to orders it should be near 40 billion.
Based on the alluded to and unconfirmed Bahama bus order:
80 buses at 30 million = $375,000 per bus.
100,000 buses at $375,000/bus = $37,500,000,000
or about 38 BILLION DOLLARS!
I guess I should have read all your posts first, don't want to step on your toes. I came across Long Star when I was searching V5s. Please post your findings so we can compare everything. Your DD is always well done.
Article states they are in production now, launch in July.
I first noticed the article on the Jinbo site in early June, but was probably first posted in December 2016. It seems more informative than similar articles on the subject posted by other press:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131927686
This article leads me to believe the 100,000 order was for the V3 and maybe specifically the Qi Ruikai wing V3 of Chery. Slightly nicer model than the Kay wing V3 imo. See below:
http://www.jingtezmt.com/baorun/wap_doc/4216852.html
Translated below:
Jin Bo Group 500 km battery life longest electric car, the pre-subsidized price of 28.8
December 8, Coquimbo Group in Ji Ming Yang New Energy Technology Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as Ji Ming Yang) electric SUV faceless Sanya, Hainan Rendez-Vous, the use of the car is Chery 's production talent, Chery Kay Wing V3 channel evolved, the appearance of the fuel version of the Chery Kay wing V3 generally no two.
According to Zhongji Ming foreign supply of vehicle parameters, the electric SUV operating conditions of the distance of 500 km, 60 km constant speed range of 640 km, is now on the Ministry of Industry and the new energy car directory life of the longest electric vehicles.
Zhongji Ming Yang V3EV pure electric SUV exposed face Hainan Sanya Haitian feast exhibition
According to the millet during the Ming Yang, chairman of Han Zhiming, the car is now in mass production now, is applying the new energy automotive directory, estimates listed next year in July, before the subsidy offer is 28. The 8 Wan yuan. If 2016 national subsidies in accordance with the 2016 annual allowance, 2017 national subsidies for 44,000, according to local subsidies and state subsidies 1: 1 accounting, the car after the offer is 200,000 .
Zhong Ji Ming Yang, chairman of the board
Chery Kay wing V3 electric SUV use charge-replacement contact, usually in the slow charge can be used in the pile, then the line can be used to change the way. Manufacturers promise battery lifetime warranty, if the electric car to the invalid period, led by manufacturers operating companies charge for electricity to 50,000 offer yuan to recover the battery. So the operator, the car's cost-effective now in the market of electric vehicles is still very competitive, the outcome of the future victory depends on the vehicle control experience.
According to reports, this electric car Qi Ruikai wing V3 target groups for the private car users and network users about cars, and now has been about Mouwang domestic car company signed a 100,000 intention to order vehicles. To be satisfied with the network of vehicles connected to the operation of the need to co-exchange mode, now by the Ji-Ming Yang to take the lead in the establishment of rechargeable operation of the company is now in Tianjin, Henan, Wuhu three cities began construction of power stations, the program first three A city as a model city operations, the future can be joined through the chain.
Haitian feast net red live
Haitian feast mainly yacht, real estate and a variety of high-end days to show the main brand, the car company exhibitors are also more to car, luxury brands and other exhibitors, Zhong Ji Ming Yang pick in such a show debut, presumably also hope that with all kinds High-end brands on display at the same time in order to give their own electric car brand a more high-end positioning. But because of the Chung-ming only brought a show car, we have no test drive at the scene, the late details can reach the desired effect, but also need to look at the details of the late vehicle function.
The forefront of the car information, the latest technology and new car interpretation, the automotive industry know nothing about all know what to do, find the car to send micro-signal: wanchepai, one in hand, three days to become auto experts.
My guess is that may be the case as well, unless I put too many pictures in one post. That's another possibility.
Thanks.
The truth will come out one way or another.
Thanks for the PMs. All your points are valid. We've known for some time there is some sort of connection from when Flo first posted those original pics. I'm posting all connections with ZJMY for better or for worse.
I see Long Star as the maker of the typically lower end/grunt EVs and Chery as the maker of ZJMYs higher end EV model bodies.
There should be a product for everyone over a good range of prices.
I posted the same conclusion last night with a bunch of pictures, but it disappeared. Ask Lindy.
I reposted the same thing this morning just in less detail. See my last post.
It makes sense that ZJMY owns Shandong Long Star or they have a big manufacturing agreement.
Manufacturer for ZJMY's EV bodies and chassis.
This is shorter but I will let posters connect the dots. Supported research seems to vanish for some reason. Like Choi said, strange things are afoot. Off to work, so won't be able reply much if at all.
http://www.jjxdd.com/
Imo, ZJMY either owns Shandong Long Star Electric Co. or they are one of its manufacturers.
Shandong long for the new energy vehicles Technology Co., Ltd
Address: Gaotang County, Shandong Province when the wind West Road
Tel: 400-8277-997
18866574699
Fax: 0635-3600606
Website: www.jjxdd .com
Our "shuttle bus" posted by Choi looks like Long Star makes the body for us- Electric sight-seeing EV! Probably for tourism as I have said before
The China Post trucks in the stickies by "hewhoshallnotbenamed" is also made by Long Star. Note the background looks like similar architecture to our "flagship store".
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132550101
ZJMYs V5s made by Long Star, maybe Cheetahs and others: Note the Mercedes they make too.
My post was more extensive last night, but you get the idea. Long Star is highly involved with ZJMY as a body supplier or as a subsidiary.
8 K on otcmarkets.com posted 6/27/2017.
It looks like solid proof to me. It's hard to get more relevant DD than this.
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/DOLV/filings
https://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=12146740
New independent registered public accounting firm
On May 25, 2017 (the “Engagement Date”), the Company engaged DE LEON & COMPANY, PA, 510 NW 159th Lane Pembroke Pines, Florida 33028 (“De
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I think that's a solid argument. In the very least, foreign companies who want to build factories in China can't get their foot in the door unless they do a joint venture (where the Chinese company is the majority stake holder and preferably State-sponsered).
Additionally the foreign companies would have to use Chinese battery tech (unless you're okay not getting any subsidies or Chinese gov support). Take the subsidies and other gov incentives that are over 30% and you would no longer be a serious competitor in China.
I for one, would choose the best Chinese EV battery maker with the longest range and build as many factories as I could. That would sound like a win-win to me.
Thanks, I always enjoy your posts. I especially like the wild pps predictions, but once you consider everything, and I mean everything, the $20 or $200 pps goes from seeming somewhat far-fetched to possibly conservative in the long run.
Appears to be made by the company (Long Time Star?) that Floridany has said is associated with us. I'm still hazy on the connection.
http://www.sdjjx.net/a/chexingzhanshi/qianyinqiche/
I'm not sure if they are making the V5 bodies for us, like Chery will be providing the V3 SUVs and likely several others too.
My opinion is Long Star (or whatever is the right translation) will be(and have been) making the bodies and chassis for ZJMY on the V5, the police car, possible the Cheetah and the ant (mini car) Other possibilities include the electric freight car (China Post EV), and (maybe even that wierd looking electric dining car).
IMO, JB&ZJMY are providing the batteries and electric motors.
I read that Long Star used Lead acid batteries in their EVs. Not good for a EV company to go down that road pun intended. Using ZJMY's battery tech = win-win for Long Star and ZJMY like the Chery cooperation.
I personally believe ZJMY may allow their EV body manufacturers (Chery, Long Star) to use its battery tech, otherwise Chery's own EVs would become obsolete next to ZJMY's range and superior tech. In addition, ZJMY may allow Chery (other body manufacturers) to brand some with their own symbols/emblems as part of the deal.
Part of the win-win mentality. If Chery sells Chery branded EV with ZJMY tech, ZJMY will still benefit. I believe ZJMY, if my above hypothesis is correct, will provide bodies, and chassis at a very discounted cost or maybe at virtually no cost, to be able to use ZJMY's tech.
Why would Chery make EV bodies for ZJMY at the demise of their own EV line????
I'm sure both companies have considered this. Business is business.
Shared tech and resources makes sense, and all parties will WIN.
It's obvious there will be deals and cooperation with multiple manufacturers and suppliers.