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i have been trying to open that since nufced posted it on another board.
okay..... one more time.
very_tired15: I have not sold any CMKX yet.. I sold a small number of CIM.... 50,000.. but I held off as I received some money owed to me from another source
very_tired15: Remember, I once jumped the gun with Urban and criticized him harshly.. I lived to regret it and I learned from it
By: carmelbeach
08 Nov 2010, 10:34 PM EST
Rating: Msg. 969322 of 969350
(Reply to 969284 by planter82)
PLAINTIFF TREFFRY ADMITS NO EVIDENCE
ISN'T IT GREAT WHEN A PLAINTIFF - ALLAN F. TREFFRY - WHO IS HIMSELF A CA-LICENSED ATTORNEY - GOES ON THE RECORD TO ADMIT THAT HE HAS NO EVIDENCE FOR WHAT HE ALLEGES IN HIS OWN LAWSUIT
REMEMBER IT IS THE PLAINTIFFS' SUIT AND THE ALLEGATIONS ARE THE PLAINTIFFS' AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM
A. CLIFTON HODGES IS ONLY THE MOUTHPIECE
ALSO - note that strongly Christian (as he represents himself) Treffry announces that he has sold CIM shares. Sure it's defensible under libertarian principles - willing buyer, willing seller - but is it moral and ethical in Christian WWJD terms to sell something so patently worthless just because an ignorant fool is willing to part with his money?
(2:37 PM) very_tired15: Good afternoon...
(2:37 PM) LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: hi allan
(2:37 PM) hundredtoone: GA VT...
(2:37 PM) Santasi: Good Afternoon Allan
(2:38 PM) Santasi: What encouraging words do you have for us today?
(2:40 PM) ujellis: Hey VT you're starting to sound like you are Very Tired....
(2:40 PM) very_tired15: Well, It is hard to say... there is always high hopes, but whoever is in control of this mess has eiuther another agenda for the money or they aren't completeed with their procedural tasks necessary for distribution.. that is about as positive as I can get.
(2:41 PM) very_tired15: Yes .. sadly, many filipinos have lost their lives searching fot that gold.. even when they are lucky enough to find some of it, thugs like Marcos make them disapoper and steal it.,.,
(2:41 PM) very_tired15: disappear
(2:41 PM) very_tired15: I am very tired indeed, ujelis
(2:41 PM) seemseek: Alan if the money is in a trust for us how can they (whomever) do something else with it - it is ours, correct?
(2:42 PM) seemseek: aren't there some white knights somewhere watching over it
(2:42 PM) vcalv: Alan, when is the last time you heard from Al?
(2:43 PM) seemseek: i thought i's had to be dotted and t's crossed
(2:43 PM) seemseek: this gets to confusing
mccurdydon1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0fQd858cRc must watch
(2:44 PM) seemseek: less than 8 hours of work to do once the go ahead is triggered
(2:44 PM) very_tired15: First off, although I believe that there is money in a trust, I have seen no real evidence of it. So, we have to assume it is there. As to the rest of the question, this is not the usual situation where normal laws would apply. Back door deals have likely been struck to use the money in areas to shore up everything fro,mn the government to the banks.
(2:44 PM) very_tired15: Ask yourself, would you have wanted the money distributed to you before the banks were solvent? It would have been a scene that everyone who got paid would have lost it again within a short time.
(2:45 PM) very_tired15: Who is sayingn that the "t's" and the "I's" must be crossed and dotted?
(2:45 PM) vngntn5: Bigger question: Would we have agreed to loan it known banks were insolvent
(2:45 PM) seemseek: i'm so lost... i thought the money was in a trust
(2:46 PM) Giants: lol...seem....there's no proof of anything yet...what does that tell you
(2:46 PM) seemseek: alan.... that has been stated more than once about the i's and t's .... from someone with credit
(2:46 PM) seemseek: can't remember who
(2:46 PM) very_tired15: the money is likely in some sort of a trust, provided it is there.. but that does not mean that the trust res can not be loaned out
(2:47 PM) very_tired15: fthe key is seem, who said it.
(2:47 PM) seemseek: can someone help me with who spoke of the i's and t's
(2:47 PM) very_tired15: and does the fact someone said it make iut truth?
(2:47 PM) Giants: assuming hollenegg is getting his info from Al
(2:48 PM) sander25nl: Alan , do you know what this is about? "" Awaiting Announcements...via broadcasting 0n all national media...""
(2:48 PM) very_tired15: What people have to really ask themselves is, "do any of the slleged gurus really know anything, or are they here with another agenda?".. that is the real question
(2:48 PM) LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: alllan. has hodges updated the plaintiffs since fridays miscue?
mccurdydon1: Bob H spoke of the Ts and Is
(2:48 PM) seemseek: thank you don
(2:49 PM) ksp11: they ad lib off the Nesara web page imo
(2:49 PM) ujellis: VT are you saying Bob might have an another agenda
(2:49 PM) Giants: could be ksp
(2:49 PM) seemseek: thought i was losing it for a bit
(2:49 PM) LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: didnt al say the T/I thing friday before last update?
(2:49 PM) ksp11: the nesara syuff is identical to what some people are saying about cmkx
(2:49 PM) very_tired15: Sander, I know what I have heard. I have not seen it yet. I would imagine, and I say imagine, if this is truth, then it is the Maheu and company group trying to work behind the scenes to help restore this nation to some financial integrity... that is my ASSUMPTION based upon what I have been told.. I have no proof
(2:50 PM) cmkm_rumours: I think its becoming an embarrasment
(2:50 PM) sander25nl: thanks Alan
(2:50 PM) vngntn5: VT: That is my thought & hope
(2:50 PM) ksp11: When NESARA is announced, many more shipments of the new Treasury currency will be shipped to all banks in the US under guard by US military units.
(2:51 PM) seemseek: ksp do you have a link
(2:51 PM) very_tired15: ujellis, I am saying nothing... some people love to be in the spotlight.. some people work for the feds.. somepeople work as private spooks.. some people just don't have a clue.. I do not wish to attack BobH.. I think he is a nice man...
(2:52 PM) very_tired15: don't kniow about AH and any TA announcements
(2:52 PM) ujellis: Well Im not looking for NICE I'm looking for a ROI
(2:52 PM) Giants: you can be nice...but still completely delusional
(2:52 PM) ksp11: http://web.archive.org/web/20080720055750/www.nesara.us/pages/history.html >> have to take the paltalk stuff out of the address bar
(2:52 PM) very_tired15: ksp.. that is either because it is truth or that it ia all a lie...I am niot completely certain as to which direction I would believe is correct.. but I will be preparting for either to happen
(2:53 PM) ujellis: I just want to know when and how much - that's all yes in that order... lol
(2:53 PM) seemseek: OMG I hope we're not being lied to
(2:53 PM) Giants: lol
(2:53 PM) inly9: LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: alllan. has hodges updated the plaintiffs since fridays miscue?
(2:53 PM) ksp11: sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense to me
(2:53 PM) seemseek: been in this way too long
(2:53 PM) very_tired15: rumors, it is indeed hard to keeop our mind in this game.. ESPECIALLY without some solid facts and knowledge of who is really involvbed
(2:54 PM) vngntn5: AT: can you say what you think of "voting shares" of CMKX ?
(2:54 PM) unclemelvie_2: allan u old sea dog
(2:54 PM) very_tired15: hello M
(2:54 PM) ujellis: VT are you still talking to AH, if so whens the last time you spoke to him
(2:54 PM) very_tired15: No updartes to me since F
(2:54 PM) DGarm8: We may have not been lied to but we have not been told the truth .
(2:55 PM) unclemelvie_2: nice of you to drop in. i must have left the gate open lol
(2:55 PM) ujellis: That's a long time knowing you.... lol
(2:55 PM) seemseek: DGarm there has to be one person in the know with integrity
(2:55 PM) diamondraider: AT what update did you get on Friday?
(2:56 PM) very_tired15: seem, I do not believe it is all a lie.. just misdirections... but I do not know for certain.. that is my gut feeling
(2:56 PM) DGarm8: I hope so !
(2:56 PM) seemseek: i would hate to think we are being played all along
(2:56 PM) seemseek: >sick feeling
(2:56 PM) seemseek: bbiab
(2:56 PM) TetraDragon: AT what update did Al give Friday? tia
(2:57 PM) very_tired15: I received no update on Friday.. although AH did call me and say that things were progressing
(2:57 PM) Giants: amazing
(2:58 PM) mach1cobra: things are always progessing
(2:58 PM) ujellis: VT and you let him off the phone with that.... Come on man we know you... spell it
(2:58 PM) ujellis: spill
(2:58 PM) ksp11: Allen do think who ever pays the money will have to detail whats behind it all ?doesnt seem like they would just send a check with no explaination
(2:58 PM) Giants: money movie...things progressing...roadblocks removed...just one phone call needed...
(2:58 PM) Giants: moving
(2:58 PM) very_tired15: It is a very tough situation, for if these people are telling us lies, but it is for a good purpose of getting us paid, then it lends to not being too harsh with them.. however, there is always the possibility that this will not turn out well for us.. it is very conflicting
(2:59 PM) very_tired15: I do believe that Al Hodges is a decent man.. I feel that he believes in freedom.. I do not believe that he would scam us, even if he hasd to mislead us for the purpose of some operation
(3:00 PM) very_tired15: but the delays and not knowing is a killer/./
(3:00 PM) TetraDragon: you're not joking there. a real killer for all.
(3:00 PM) rcar202: if Al said things are progressing you couldn't tell if that was good or bad?
(3:00 PM) diamondraider: Thanks for sharing AT
(3:00 PM) mach1cobra: well after 7 years this goes far past OLD!!!!!!!!
(3:01 PM) alberta20041: VeryTired.. Do you still hope for ROI this year? ty
(3:01 PM) very_tired15: ujellis, I can be confrontational with AH and then not receive any calls or communications and I get nothing.. or I can take what he says, read between the lines as best I can and at least get something to chew on...
(3:01 PM) Giants: whats the problem with just being honest with us???? mind screwing seems to be one of his strong points
(3:01 PM) *** factsonly has joined the room ***
(3:01 PM) very_tired15: ksp, it could possibly be just that east
(3:01 PM) ujellis: VT you paid your hard earned money
(3:01 PM) very_tired15: easy
(3:02 PM) unclemelvie_2: Giants
(3:02 PM) DGarm8: Please answer this question, very tired, What has Al accomplished ?
(3:02 PM) very_tired15: rcar he still assets fully that we will be paid
(3:02 PM) rcar202: Allan if he called you wouldn't that mean its for the good if all he said was things are progressing?
(3:02 PM) ujellis: so either he can give you a refund or he can sit there and listen you to
(3:02 PM) JoeBud: Allen can you share if you've sold any CMKXor CIM shares as you were trying to do a few weeks ago? Thanks
(3:02 PM) Giants: hey mel
(3:02 PM) ujellis: VT you know the game AH is your attorney
(3:03 PM) very_tired15: I believe so in general rcar
(3:03 PM) ujellis: he works for you
(3:03 PM) mach1cobra: Just curious why does Al and company allow whoever these Ghost Whisperer's to continue to lie to them?
(3:03 PM) very_tired15: I have not sold any CMKX yet.. I sold a small number of CIM.... 50,000.. but I held off as I received some money owed to me from another source
(3:03 PM) JoeBud: ok thanks Allen
(3:04 PM) rcar202: TY Allan
(3:04 PM) TetraDragon: thanks AT for coming in.
(3:04 PM) sander25nl: yea thanks a lot
(3:04 PM) unclemelvie_2: allan you do not have to expalin to any of us what you did with your shares ok
(3:04 PM) very_tired15: ujellis.. AH is not an open book on these issues... it is because he is being more than just my lawyer.. he is doing something grander in scope... I can accept that and live with the situation best I can, even though it is very hard.. or I can cause trouble..
(3:05 PM) very_tired15: I do not want to cause trouble for a man who might be doing a wonderful thing for me.. and as I believe he is a decent man and trying to do me right in the long run,. I will not take any steps to cause him trouble
(3:05 PM) very_tired15: Remember, I once jumped the gun with Urban and criticized him harshly.. I lived to regret it and I learned from it
(3:06 PM) ujellis: I see
(3:06 PM) alberta20041: VeryTired.. Do you still hope for ROI this year? ty
(3:06 PM) very_tired15: I do Alberta.. but I just don't know for certain
(3:06 PM) hundredtoone: Don't listen to anyone AT...just listen to yourself...do what you think is right...
(3:06 PM) Giants: well said VT...
(3:06 PM) very_tired15: you're welcome tetra
(3:06 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: alan do u think that Hodges writes some of Bhollenegg's postings?
(3:06 PM) alberta20041: Thank you
(3:06 PM) very_tired15: thanks Melvin.. I do not mind
(3:07 PM) unclemelvie_2: ok up to u then
(3:07 PM) very_tired15: beef... I just do not know
(3:07 PM) vngntn5: WELL Allan MEL is right - People draw incorrect conclusions from that info
(3:07 PM) very_tired15: thanks hundred.. I am doing my best
(3:08 PM) unclemelvie_2: amen vng
(3:08 PM) ujellis: WDBH- hope not because he hasn't been right for years... lol
(3:09 PM) very_tired15: I did not want to sell anything.. but I was in a tight position.. some debts came due and I had to deal with them... but as said, money arrived and I am off the hook for a few weeks
(3:09 PM) ujellis: VT - you're a better man than me
(3:09 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: lol
(3:12 PM) sander25nl: .
(3:12 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: alan any idea why tyler doesn't join the fight to get the Land claims trust seperated from the Sting trust?
(3:12 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: so that at least the company can move fwd
(3:13 PM) buck 56: what company?
(3:13 PM) very_tired15: I ajm confident that Tyler is doing their part - their assiignment -to move forward. I just do not know what it entails, but I am sure something is going forward there.
(3:14 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: also alan sheila told Water that we are "good to go in November" do u know where she got that from? did hodges say that or did sheila just make it up?
(3:14 PM) very_tired15: beef, I can not account for where Sheila's info comes from...
(3:14 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: also if the lawsuit gets tossed on the 22nd and we still aren't paid then what? seems then our goose is cooked?
(3:14 PM) very_tired15: I am certain that AH will ask the judge for the right to amend the complainy a second time. Such is a common practice...
(3:15 PM) very_tired15: that is if the 12 is granted
(3:15 PM) very_tired15: 12
(3:15 PM) very_tired15: twelve - 6
(3:15 PM) very_tired15: 12 b 6
(3:15 PM) inly9: add spaces allan
(3:15 PM) hundredtoone: Don't worry we have plenty of TIME...we have to get it RIGHT the FIRST and ONLY time...IMO...
(3:16 PM) very_tired15: maybe that is it, hundred.. I only hope so
(3:16 PM) alberta20041: I was trying to dicipher that bottle and the man... lol
(3:17 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: great another 6 months of this crap of lies from ah then if he gets another amendment approval
(3:17 PM) very_tired15: I pray not
(3:17 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: who'd a thunk we'd still be here 11 months later
(3:17 PM) unclemelvie_2: wheres
(3:17 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: mel its certainly possible is it not
(3:18 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: possible and likely imo
(3:18 PM) TetraDragon: I pray not.
(3:18 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: but that will be very demoralizing bc we are supposedly so close
(3:19 PM) mach1cobra: Beef, we are close?
(3:20 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: mach if u try to believe bhollenegg
(3:20 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: seems like we are just announcments away
(3:20 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: one event
(3:20 PM) vngntn5: Gold 1409+
(3:20 PM) mach1cobra: lol I try but gessshhh
(3:20 PM) buck 56: "they" always say we are close but i dont feel very close
(3:20 PM) rcar202: I sure hope so mach but you gotta be feelin what beef is too
(3:20 PM) diamondraider: AT did Hodges give you any indication of when he would update you again?
(3:20 PM) vngntn5: I bought 14oz sametime as CMKI
(3:21 PM) mach1cobra: If I didn't think Allan was sincere, what I see here is the good cop bad cop routine. Nothing in life is this blurred.
(3:22 PM) vngntn5: MACH: Yes it is-Your soul
(3:22 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: yeah exactly buck so if we go from being only an announcement away to having to wait on a re-file all over again then imo Houston we have a problem
(3:22 PM) mach1cobra: vng, that makes no sense
(3:22 PM) ujellis: VT - diamondraider: AT did Hodges give you any indication of when he would update you again?
(3:22 PM) mach1cobra: like you
(3:22 PM) very_tired15: I certainly hope I am not being a bad cop
(3:22 PM) vngntn5: Covered in Genesis Good & Evil
(3:23 PM) mach1cobra: me too
(3:23 PM) unclemelvie_2: i find it very hard to call someone a lier when i have no clue what that person is doin.
(3:23 PM) very_tired15: I feel that I am still optimistic under the situation....
(3:23 PM) vngntn5: ALLAN: Your posts are a lot less rumorish
(3:24 PM) goinbroke: very_tired....I was in Federal Court in SF for 5 years...it cost me my health because of my anger and resentment.My lawyers as well would not share with me until the last minute...please, my friend its best to back off unless there is something that bears fruit.
(3:24 PM) vngntn5: This room accepts that - Others Not
(3:25 PM) sander25nl: Alan , do you have an idea what the " Awaiting Announcements...via broadcasting 0n all national media..." might be about ? or from who ?
(3:27 PM) mach1cobra: rcar, what the shareholders of this company have gone through is far more than any American should have. The corruptness is not only disgusting but literally sad.
(3:27 PM) diamondraider: So, Very Tired Hodges didn't tell you when he would be speaking to you next?
(3:27 PM) unclemelvie_2: later folks supper time
(3:27 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: its a hostage situation with mental torturing daily
(3:28 PM) mach1cobra: Beef I hear Iraq still has a stock pile of skuds lol
(3:29 PM) very_tired15: I have to imagine the details.. maybe some new financial system.. maybe gold-backed dollars... maybe the death of the fed.. I am not completely sure
(3:29 PM) sander25nl: thanks Alan
(3:30 PM) vcalv: Alan, aren't you a plaintiff?
(3:30 PM) very_tired15: I am a plaintiff
(3:30 PM) vcalv: isn't Al obligated to share his findings with you? i don't get it
(3:31 PM) very_tired15: read my answers above
(3:31 PM) vcalv: about you having to imagine the details?? lol
(3:32 PM) houhe: that's no help Hahaha
(3:33 PM) vcalv: i knew i should have been a lawyer....would tell all my clients to draw their own conclusions as to what's happening in the case....
(3:33 PM) vcalv: good gig if u ask me LOL
(3:33 PM) inly9: begave vcalv...you too houhe
(3:34 PM) inly9: behave*
(3:34 PM) houhe: you guyes are funny lol
(3:34 PM) vcalv: i'm just fooling around LOL
(3:34 PM) houhe: oh Inly , let us have some fun
(3:35 PM) vcalv: Allan, I don't mean to make fun...no offense
(3:35 PM) very_tired15: I have to say, I do appreciate the admins of this room.. it is a room of freedom more than all others.. the other rooms have agendas and agents either running them or influencing them...
(3:35 PM) D miner:
(3:36 PM) gmls66: Mel put us through rigorous training to qualify to be in here
(3:37 PM) *** theslyfox has left the room ***
(3:37 PM) vcalv: this room rocks....i was bounced for unplugged room for no reason...found a new home here
(3:37 PM) gmls66: + + +
(3:37 PM) very_tired15: I note that in the grapevine, it is taboo to adversely question any plaintiff or question the storyline they talk of.. of course it is fully permissible to bash me anytime.. because it is a government run room
(3:37 PM) gmls66: then...this...
(3:37 PM) brigantine_57: common theme in this room, vcalve
(3:38 PM) gmls66: + + +
(3:38 PM) brigantine_57: VT, it figures that the illiterate redneck room would be gov't run
(3:38 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: lol mach
(3:38 PM) Giants: lol...how do you really feel Brigs
(3:38 PM) houhe: bbl
(3:38 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: dont shoot the messenger but ----< Tropigal: from Mills Board: I am hearing the same story from another source. Lt.KK Thanks Mona!!
(3:39 PM) gmls66: ya, I missed Brig all morning...where ya been?
(3:39 PM) brigantine_57: I feel great, giants
(3:39 PM) Giants: good man
(3:39 PM) brigantine_57: We were having a discussion this morning and it turned to whining and complaining so I left.
(3:39 PM) gmls66: almost feel like I am on vacation without you here Brig...
(3:39 PM) very_tired15: That is the single most distrssing issue I have with this stock.. certain plaintiffs that I believe to be more than mere plaintiffs repeatedly tell tall tales covering for why we have not been paid.. it makes me concerned because why the bs all the time if this is a good deal. That worries me more than anything
(3:40 PM) Giants: you are not alone with that one Allan
(3:40 PM) mach1cobra: boy how true is that statement Allan. The word Agenda exceeds all limits.
(3:40 PM) very_tired15: They are ALWAYS 100% confident.. never show anger or frustration or question AH or question if money has been collected, as if a mere plaintiff would have this information. Salty, the 2 Colonels and I surely do not know of this info...
(3:41 PM) Crashigan: Have you talked to Salty Allan?
(3:41 PM) af_vet: The military guys know that loose lips sink ships, they will never out anything out for public consumption..........
(3:41 PM) very_tired15: I speak to Salty on a daily basis
(3:42 PM) Crashigan: What are his thoughts?
(3:42 PM) af_vet: put anything out
(3:42 PM) very_tired15: frustrated...
(3:42 PM) Crashigan: Why doesnt' he come on Paltalk anymore?
(3:42 PM) very_tired15: Because his computers get attacked on a regular basis
(3:42 PM) vcalv: I must say Allan, it is not very reassuring to see you this frustrated. Sure hope AH has a good reason to be so hush hush
(3:44 PM) brigantine_57: bottom line is, if you believe that a group of men is behind this as part of a larger effort to return this country to constitionality, then there is nothing we can do. All avenues for us to pursue our own litigation are so clouded in mystery as to be unfathomable to someone not inside. The only thing we can do is wait and hope the good guys win. Anything more is just self induced angst.
(3:44 PM) very_tired15: If I did not have a gut feeling about AH myself, I would also be suffering from a lack of being assured.. it is very tough to be here in this position... I could wait another 5 years, if that is what it took, only if I knew what was happening.. that is the difficult part, and the ups and downs of the bs being tossed at us on a daily basis]
(3:45 PM) brigantine_57: I rest assured that the BS tossed out for us to keep our attention is directed at the weak, illiterate and mindless among us.
(3:45 PM) mach1cobra: Allan maybe you need to have mona get you in contact with her banker.
(3:45 PM) very_tired15: brig, you have an excellent point.. I try to get back to that perspective on a daily basis.. and I succeed for a period of time.. but it is a tough ride, as I said EXPECIALLY becaus eof the bs tossed at us.. the ups and downs are terrribly unfair
(3:46 PM) very_tired15: mach, I do not trust Mona
(3:46 PM) very_tired15: nor her banker
(3:46 PM) brigantine_57: agreed, which is why I do try very hard to ignore them. not always successful, but more often than not.
(3:46 PM) mach1cobra: now how did I know you might say that lol
(3:46 PM) Crashigan: Allan, do you trust Al?
(3:46 PM) Waylon: oh crap, i dont have 5 years
(3:46 PM) very_tired15: you are a man of great insight mach
(3:46 PM) mach1cobra: lol
(3:47 PM) very_tired15: I do trust AH... but not to tell me every truth, but that he is working ffor the greater good
(3:47 PM) very_tired15: Waylon, 5 years was just a figure
(3:48 PM) very_tired15: oops.. ESPECIALLY
(3:48 PM) brigantine_57: yer exkused
(3:49 PM) ILOVETEMECULASMOM: Alan call the Senators office and see what his sec says
(3:50 PM) very_tired15: Which Senator?
(3:50 PM) brigantine_57: the OK one moner was talking about, today
(3:50 PM) ILOVETEMECULASMOM: its in her ragingbull post does any one have it
(3:50 PM) brigantine_57: tom corbet or something like that.
(3:51 PM) brigantine_57: It's in millionaire's buzz, too.
(3:51 PM) ILOVETEMECULASMOM: its in her header
(3:51 PM) sander25nl: http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=969246
(3:51 PM) very_tired15: How on earth does Mona know enough about this man to endorse him as OK? If he were in the hip pockets of Wall Street bankers, would he simply admit it?
(3:52 PM) brigantine_57: coburn
(3:52 PM) very_tired15: How ludicrous'
(3:52 PM) very_tired15: ludicrous
(3:52 PM) mach1cobra: ROTFLMAO
(3:52 PM) brigantine_57: exactl. everyone is lying to us, why would we expect any different?
(3:52 PM) brigantine_57: y
(3:53 PM) very_tired15: I trust NO ONE in Washington DC except one man and that man is Ron Paul... he is the ONLY one who has repeatedly stuck his neck out against the Wall Street thugs and the New World Order mafia
(3:53 PM) very_tired15: and he repeatedly complains about the federal government being way out of control
(3:53 PM) brigantine_57: Yeah, and look how he was marginalized by the press during his presidential run. criminal, imo
(3:53 PM) dan4LE: brig, you're whining.
(3:53 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: Mona Lisa Smiles: it's all good honey. I am hearing the same from another senators office in the South west.
(3:53 PM) very_tired15: no matter if a republicon or democrud is in the white house..
(3:54 PM) born2boogy: lol
(3:54 PM) very_tired15: you are so right Brig...
(3:54 PM) very_tired15: beef, Mona has said that 1000 times before..
(3:54 PM) wait4al94: has anyone contacted this senator to see if he actually said that?
(3:54 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: she has something in common with al then
(3:55 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: alan has Hodges indicated what he thinks happens on the 22nd? like he indiciated before that there would be no refile
(3:56 PM) very_tired15: AH said it could happen anytime
(3:57 PM) justme_101: is that in cmkx time?
(3:57 PM) vngntn5: The judge seemed to think the wrong party sued ?
(3:57 PM) very_tired15: Don't be too surprised if Mona is something more than just a mere shareholder as well. Nnote one thing that gives them away.. in all of the other rooms, you are not permitted to rag on the government. How can you address wall street corruption without discussing the law, politics, history, the economy, the mafia, crime, etc..
(3:57 PM) wheres-da-beef-home: well say what u want about mona....i like that she's naming names and stuff now with her rumors
(3:57 PM) brigantine_57: bingo
(3:58 PM) brigantine_57: aah, that bingo was for VT, not mona
(3:58 PM) brigantine_57: beef is too fast.
(3:58 PM) very_tired15: all of those admins who refuse to allow open and respectful discussion of government corruption are doing it for one reason - they are protecting the government. Why would they do it? They work for the government or benefit from protecting it, in one capacity or another.
(3:59 PM) brigantine_57: which of course makes them suspect, since they aren't necessarily on our side
(3:59 PM) vngntn5: ALLAN: selling of the soul
(3:59 PM) dan4LE: VT, who are you going to get to start your car in the morning?
(4:00 PM) very_tired15: so right Brig... that is the biggest concern I have with CMKX is all the feds hiding in these rooms...
(4:00 PM) brigantine_57: It reminds me of the ProBoards Moderator (of almost ever pro-board) who tells people he works in the publishing business, but doesn't know simple first year rules about page design.
(4:00 PM) cmkm_rumours: Mona is something other than she appears?
(4:01 PM) cmkm_rumours: You have got to be kidding
(4:01 PM) vngntn5: There were patriots in the revolution as well
(4:01 PM) very_tired15: people do not understand... when the hammer falls on the USA, it will be solely BECAUSE of the feds unconstitutional conduct, but in the end, we willbe the ones to suffer as they come down on us with their martial law and intern camps for re-education or elimination.. it has happened in history too many times before not to see the pattern emerging here all over again
(4:01 PM) very_tired15: rumomrs, one doesnot have to be a full blown fed to be somethong more than one appears...
(4:01 PM) brigantine_57: Exactly. if we do not win and win fast, we are in for some very difficult times.
(4:01 PM) cmkm_rumours: What a bunch of utter conspiratorial nutballs-absolutely insane
(4:01 PM) cmkm_rumours: have a nice night
(4:01 PM) brigantine_57: The good news is, the boat is world capable.
(4:02 PM) very_tired15: rumors - fed
(4:02 PM) very_tired15: rumors = fed
(4:02 PM) brigantine_57: bye bye fed boy
(4:02 PM) vngntn5: There will be boneses paid to turn in your neighbor
(4:02 PM) brigantine_57: and here's a big FO to the geeks from NSA listening in tonight
(4:03 PM) mach1cobra: that does it vng I am turning you in......
(4:03 PM) brigantine_57: lol
(4:03 PM) very_tired15: feds and secret society sell outs.. betraying humanity for a little piece of the stolen pie.. so pitiful it makes me puke
(4:03 PM) very_tired15: I shoudl qualify the feds remark.. there are some feds who are decent folks and who want the constitution to be the law of the land and who are decent people.. but there are many in power who are not this way
(4:04 PM) very_tired15: brig
(4:04 PM) brigantine_57: One of these days, I'm going to #### those guys off.
(4:05 PM) strike 4: the system is so out of control its pathetic
(4:06 PM) strike 4: the problem is the bed is made and they all sleep in the same bed
(4:06 PM) brigantine_57: btw, to immigrate into New Zeland, all you need is a skill in short supply or money to invest in a business. Not surprisingly, 'Puter geeks are in short supply.
(4:06 PM) ksp11: Hodges won the IRS Bivens Case so he knows how to write the complaint, why do think he wrote this one just short of being accepted?
(4:07 PM) brigantine_57: because imo, it is a combination of leverage and bouncing ball. We will be paid when the derivatives are cleaned up and the fed goes down
(4:07 PM) very_tired15: For those in the NSA and CIA and FBI who are listening in this room. I appeal to your common sense. God is the author and Creator of the universe and everything in it.. would it make sense that in all His wisdom and might, he would be so stupid to create a creature more powerful than He?
(4:07 PM) very_tired15: By betraying innocent people, either consciously or unconsciously, you worship the darkside, the beast and you should repent and serve the cause of freedom. Remember, The Lord is a Spirit and where that Spirit is, there is freedom.
(4:08 PM) vngntn5: AMEN
(4:09 PM) ksp11: I wonder if they are as tired of all this as we are
(4:09 PM) brigantine_57: While that may all very well be true, VT, it has no effect on NSA Types. What may and should have more effect is the fact that they all took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
(4:09 PM) brigantine_57: Men and women in uniform are bound by the UCJ to disobey illegal orders.
(4:09 PM) mach1cobra: oath means little to some.
(4:10 PM) brigantine_57: It won't matter when the constitution is returned and they are called on the carpet for their misdeeds.
(4:10 PM) vngntn5: Many will follow orders to save own skin
(4:10 PM) brigantine_57: Breaking that oath is a felony offense
(4:10 PM) ksp11: this came out when the SEAL team took out the Somali pirates, http://i39.tinypic.com/k2em35.jpg
(4:10 PM) brigantine_57: Nice.
(4:11 PM) very_tired15: To those same agents, I make that statement out of love, not fear. This is the power that has my back. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+23&version=KJV
(4:11 PM) af_vet: I sure don't remember reading that or having it briefed in my UCMJ briefings when I was in the service brig..................
(4:11 PM) af_vet: No one is told to disobey an order
(4:11 PM) brigantine_57: That's what I was told at commissioning.
(4:11 PM) very_tired15: You can have it too.. but you need to stop this evil.. helping protect bankers and a system of criminality
(4:11 PM) af_vet: you follow the order then go up the chain of command afterwarde with your concerns.
(4:12 PM) brigantine_57: It may not be the same for enlisted, but as an officer I was bound by the UCMJ to disobey illegal orders and to know the difference
(4:12 PM) very_tired15: good one ksp
(4:13 PM) brigantine_57: 'course, that may have been dropped in the last few yrs... hard to tell what has gone on.
(4:13 PM) TATbird: My son knows about that also, Brig...he is/was an officer
(4:13 PM) vngntn5: I hope we have enough good officers left
(4:13 PM) brigantine_57: hope so, too vngntn
(4:13 PM) very_tired15: Brig, I know that the constitution is the highest law of the land, but evenif they take our very lives, they have to know that accountability awaits them
(4:14 PM) TATbird: My son's attitude is once a Marine always a Marine so those officers will always be there
(4:14 PM) very_tired15: I am so hopeful that you are right.. that we do return to constitutionality.. I just have a hard time believing it
(4:14 PM) JamesDarren: they cant take over my life till they take my gun
(4:14 PM) brigantine_57: It's the same with all services. I have been out of the service since '83, but I am still subject to recall and remain an officer.
(4:15 PM) TATbird: Yep...same with him and he is/was special ops
(4:16 PM) TATbird: He won't tell me if he's Reserve or out of the service. He won't tell me a thing that little bugger
(4:17 PM) nordic_6: What's the good word?
(4:17 PM) nordic_6: Is there sound?
(4:20 PM) Waylon: outta my cold dead hands
(4:21 PM) dan4LE: I'll check back later to see if we're talking about CMKX.
(4:21 PM) vngntn5: JD & WAYLON: The will come & take it : A team of officers will knock on door & you will be faced with a decision ?
(4:21 PM) ksp11: He is not supposed to Tat , and that what botheres me about mr dreamweavers aquaintance, a special ops guy talking stuff that is supposed to covert
(4:22 PM) THANKS_URBAN: vn???
(4:22 PM) brigantine_57: tu???
(4:22 PM) TATbird: I understand that, Ksp, but as a mother it's upsetting
(4:22 PM) Waylon: vng, not a tough decision for me
(4:22 PM) THANKS_URBAN: brig???
(4:22 PM) brigantine_57: How are you tonight?
(4:23 PM) THANKS_URBAN: good and u?
(4:23 PM) brigantine_57: yeah.
(4:23 PM) brigantine_57: Just anxious as we draw near to the end and my job wraps up at same time...
(4:23 PM) Waylon: vng, i'm very unstable and my finger twitches
(4:23 PM) brigantine_57: timing is everything
(4:24 PM) nordic_6: near to end of what?
(4:25 PM) vngntn5: ATLAS SHRUGGED is an intresting story of similar events
(4:25 PM) gmls66: neat book
(4:25 PM) very_tired15: Did you notice how Rumors, the fed, tried that hit and run "conspiracy theorist" routine with us when I brought up the secret society/feds comment from before? The feds are starting to panic because that stupid "conspiracy theorist" attack is no longer working anymore
(4:25 PM) brigantine_57: Just beause it is a theory doesn't mean it is wrong.
(4:26 PM) THANKS_URBAN: good evening allen t.
(4:26 PM) brigantine_57: And, the internet has done great things to help people pool information to the point where it is obviously more than theory at this point.
(4:26 PM) *** very_tired15 has left the room ***
(4:26 PM) brigantine_57: The question has become, what can we do, individually to stop it?
(4:26 PM) *** bethankful 1 has left the room ***
(4:26 PM) brigantine_57: Boycott the Banksters, first, imo.
(4:27 PM) brigantine_57: Everyone in this stock should have their banking with a small local bank or USAA for you vets.
(4:27 PM) brigantine_57: And tell everyone you know, to take their business away from BOA, Chase, Citi and the rest.
(4:27 PM) THANKS_URBAN: allen -r u getting the same info that robert is posting?
(4:27 PM) gmls66: he left
(4:28 PM) gmls66: you said 'hi' and he left
(4:28 PM) THANKS_URBAN: or is Al not letting u in?
(4:28 PM) nordic_6: What info please?
(4:28 PM) gmls66: *** very_tired15 has left the room ***
Wow! This story is getting really bizarre. The post below from 2005 on the mg-rover forum is about the OITC making a bid of $5 bill USD for MG Rover Group, with another $5 bill for expansion.
It also states in 2005 that the OITC is pledging billions of pounds to the UK economy (déjà vu)? The post is a long read but interesting considering recent news.
Now here is the bizarre part. At the same time Lord James of Blackheath was also making a bid for MG Rover Group. The U.K. media needs to do a little research on this strange coincidence. It's just too weird, imo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_James_of_Blackheath
In 2005 he attempted to make a bid for troubled carmakers MG Rover.
http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=77996&highlight=OITC
According to David Day, who represents the Office of International Treasury Control (OITC). I have to stick my hand in the air at this point and say that when a representive of Malcom Walsh group posted this earlier on (18th April), we took it for a scam and Sin-binned the thread. We couldn't find anything out about them, but then if what they say about operating at government level is correct, its not suprising we didn't find anything out about them.
Below is the original post by David Sale, of Markham Walsh Group, its pretty lengthy, so bear with it!
After that, I'll post a copy of the letter sent to the National Audit office by David Day, the OITCs representative in the UK, who I have spoken to.
If this is trueful and above board then great - we should be behind it 110%. They apparently will be going public with this later this week and the OITC are threatening to withdraw billions of pounds they have pledged to the UK economy, if this is true a) it should provoke a response from the Government and b) that should validate who OTIC are.
Quote from David Sale's letter:
"The OITC has offered to acquire (actual purchase price is to be agreed) the whole interests of the ailing car group and inject an initial $5 bill USD ($5,000,000,000 USD) with a further $5 bill USD ($5,000,000,000 USD) to expand and develop the MG Rover Group, together with a completely new range of vehicles and a new image."
D.A.Sale. F.LLA. 13th April 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_International_Treasury_Control
The OITC and MG Rover
The OITC first came to public attention in 2005 with an attempted bid for the failed MG Rover Group in the United Kingdom. The London Daily Telegraph reported that "a Mr David Sale and a Dr Ray Dam claim to have offered to buy MG Rover for $5 billion." The Financial Times reported that the OITC had given the administrators a deposit of one pound, made out as a postal order.[1] According to Sale and Dam, Rover's administrators PriceWaterhouseCoopers (PWC) were refusing to take their bid seriously even though (according to them) Prime Minister Tony Blair had acknowledged it in a letter. However, PWC told the Telegraph that it had never heard of the OITC and the Prime Minister's office had no record of the OITC's letter.[4] The bid met with considerable skepticism among MG Rover enthusiasts[13] and was evidently discarded by the administrators, as the OITC did not appear on the final list of bidders.[citation needed]
It was bugging me all day that OITC was so similar to the DOM.
oops A momentary memory lapse. Where's Janice when you need her? lol
Even djzzzz's guru Benjamin Fulford knows the OITC is a fraud.
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2010/07/the-international-office-of-treasury-control-is-a-fraudulent-organization.html
We can now confirm that the International Office of Treasury Control,” is a sophisticated con.
Their instrument was a fake bank known as the Melchizedek bank.
http://archives.pireport.org/archive/2006/march/03-06-14.htm
PACIFIC ISLANDS REPORT
Pacific Islands Development Program/East-West Center
With Support From Center for Pacific Islands Studies/University of Hawai‘i
FIJI MYSTERY MAN TIED TO ‘DOMINION OF MELCHIZEDEK’
SUVA, Fiji (Fijilive, March 4) – The man whose organization has promised more than FJ$11 billion [US$6.3 billion] to Fiji landowners, had one of his corporations registered in the imaginary entity of the Dominion of Melchizedek.
Ray Chhat Dam (reportedly a Thai national with U.S. citizenship) - alongside other individuals - was linked to an entity called the Consolidated Credit Bank Limited, which is said to have originally obtained a mail order bank license over the Internet from the Australian-based Dominion of Melchizedek.
The Dominion of Melchizedek is a so-called micro-nation with its own legislation and flag and is listed as being located in various parts of the Pacific Ocean islands and parts of Antarctica, and lays claim to a small island off Rotuma called Solkope.
The Dominion of Melchizedek was implicated in trying to separate Rotuma from Fiji in early 2000 after its leader David Korem visited Rotuma and had drafted a constitution and was planning to help it gain independence.
Dam's "Chief of Cabinet of the Office of International Treasury Control as well as his Special Envoy and Executor for His Excellency", Keith Scott, said a Consolidated Credit Bank was initially registered from Melchizedek and then it was shifted to "their own nation".
An Internet search of Consolidated Credit Bank Limited reveals that it is on the blacklist of at least one bank watch website. The bank's website http://www.consolidated-creditbank.com/ has expired.
Scott admitted that the Consolidated Credit Bank had been registered with Melchizedek yet failed to divulge any details about its operations.
"Originally, the Consolidated Credit Bank was listed in the Dominion of Melchizedek. This is part of the normal process of the Melchizedekal system regardless of the secrecy of these assets. What happens is that everything runs under a concept of plausible deniability?
"Consolidated Credit Bank is not registered in the Dominion of Melchizedek. It was at one stage for certain technical purposes. The original license came from there and then we took it on under our own nation," Scott said.
Scott, who was scheduled to leave the country tonight, revealed this during the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding between Office of International Treasury Control and Fiji's indigenous landowners earlier today.
Without showing any solid evidence of the establishment of his organization, Scott said Office of International Treasury Control resulted from a supposed paper he presented to the United States Federal Reserve in 1998, requesting that Dr. Dam be appointed as "the sole arbiter of the centralized wealth of the world, which was controlled under the Federal Reserve under the Bank of International Settlements".
This contradicted his earlier statement that his superior Dr. Dam was appointed on January 20, 1995, as the sole arbiter.
Scott said Office of International Treasury Control funds were held in a organization called the Institutional Parent Administration Account. Like the Office of International Treasury Control, there is no evidence of this organization on the Internet.
"The purpose of instituting the Office of International Treasury Control was to provide an administrative system in perpetuity, which will be able to exercise the management of these funds and their control," Scott said.
He said prior to today, Office of International Treasury Control was a secret organization and no one knew of its existence.
"The Office of International Treasury Control has been up until today a secret organization known by some particularly in the highest levels of banking. All our funds are held in the Institutional Parent Administration Account of the Federal Reserve System.
"Last night (Thursday Fiji time) I had Dr. Dam transfer the first US$3 billion."
Office of International Treasury Control had initially offered to provide indigenous landowners FJ$6 billion [US$3.4 billion], but during the signing of the Memorandum Of Understanding, he revealed that the US$3 billion was in additional funds.
"This is not the money for setting up the new bank. This is additional money of US$3 billion," Scott said.
When asked how his organization managed to arrange the transfer of US$3 billion, Scott responded, "Because I have the authority and the power to do that. We have the money and we can give it to anybody.
"Why don't you just wait and let the funds come into the Reserve Bank? I have already delivered the transfer documents.
"We don't ask the Federal Reserve to send the money, we instruct them."
The Dominion of Melchizedek has attempted for nearly a decade to become recognized amongst other nations as an independent nation, according to the free online encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
While some reports indicate the Dominion of Melchizedek owns no sovereign territory except for perhaps some obscure island territory, Dominion of Melchizedek is seeking independent nation status via ecclesiastical statehood, claiming what it believes is a status no different than what The Vatican obtained for its international recognition and relations with other nations.
The Dominion of Melchizedek was created in 1986 by Evan David Pedley and his son, Mark Logan Pedley. The latter also uses a number of pseudonyms, including "Tzemach Ben David Netzer Korem" and "Branch Vinedresser" (which is a rough English translation of the Hebrew). The Pedleys have published a translation of the Bible known as the Melchizedek Bible.
While its flag incorporates Christian, Jewish and Islamic symbols, the Dominion of Melchizedek has no established church or formally constituted religion, and most external observers reject the assertion of ecclesiastical sovereignty.
The Dominion of Melchizedek also claims Jerusalem as its homeland. The claim is based on the Biblical legend of Melchizedek, who is said to have been priest-king of Salem.
During the 1990s, Dominion of Melchizedek is said to have begun to claim sovereignty over a number of Pacific islands, all of which were already the possessions of recognized states. They include Taongi Atoll (an uninhabited possession of the Marshall Islands); Malpelo Island (a possession of Colombia, inhabited by a military garrison); Karitane Shoal (a reef submerged under 9 meters of water); Solkope Island (part of Fiji off Rotuma), and Clipperton Island (a possession of France). It also claims a large section of Antarctica. None of these claims is recognized by any established government.
The Dominion of Melchizedek website claims that it is a recognized sovereign entity. However, it has been described as "non-existent" by the United States Securities and Exchange Commission
The Dominion of Melchizedek is believed to have been established during the 1980s in the United States by residents of California, Virginia, Chicago, and Texas who saw "agents" being placed in Australia, Canada, The Philippines, Saipan, Guam, Japan, South Africa, Nigeria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, The Vatican, Latvia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Russia, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Chile, Peru, Belgium, and the Caribbean.
The Dominion of Melchizedek amongst other things has been establishing 'identity vehicles' such as banking licenses and passports for many entities and its associates for over 10-years.
March 6, 2006
Fijilive: http://www.fijilive.com
Copyright © 2006 Fijilive. All Rights Reserved
The Xers keep falling deeper and deeper into the nether world of conspiracy kooks
Its all so bizarre as to be hilarious and very sad at the same time.
So true. Once the Xers discover conspiracies by kooks they are devoted to it. They believe because someone in the House Of Lords (house of eccentrics) got con into believing this farce it is legit. This is no different than that moron Ashley Mote getting con into the Story/World Report conspiracies.
Of course they must find a way to bring the almighty Maheu into the conspiracy to seal the deal that it is legit.
http://cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mofo&action=display&thread=7182
oldepro
Re: Foundation X
« Reply #9 Yesterday at 11:18pm »
Robert A Maheu
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Knights_of_Malta
Need to copy and paste in browser
He's there.
I think they want to call the company Bush and Lomb.
Too funny!
ah There's nothing better than reading the classics on a chilly fall afternoon.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=10071
huskerpower
Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:10:44 PM
Re: SEABISCUIT post# 82230 Post # of 82294
EIGH IS BEING INVESTIGATED TO SEE IF MONK OR EIGH HAS DUMPED SHARESWHILE EVERYONE WAITED FOR THE DIVY, THEY HAVEN'T IN MY OPINION AND WE WILL FIND THAT OUT, THIS SEC INVESTIGATION IS A WONDERFUL THING CAUSE IT WILL FORCE THE SEC TO DEAL WITH SHORT POSITION. THATS THE TRUTH AND IT CAN'T BE ARGUED
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2010/34-63242.pdf
because of questions that have been raised about the accuracy and adequacy of publicly disseminated information concerning, among other things, a cash dividend the company announced it would pay stockholders and Monk’s Den, an investment program and online investor network the company disclosed it acquired in September 2010.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Before the
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
Release No. 34-63242/November 4, 2010
IN THE MATTER OF 8000, INC.
The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission”) announced the temporary suspension, pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the “Exchange Act”) , of the trading in the securities of 8000, Inc., of Manassas, Virginia at 9:30 a.m. EDT on November 4, 2010, and terminating at 11:59 p.m. EST on November 17, 2010.
The Commission temporarily suspended trading in the securities of 8000, Inc. because of questions that have been raised about the accuracy and adequacy of publicly disseminated information concerning, among other things, a cash dividend the company announced it would pay stockholders and Monk’s Den, an investment program and online investor network the company disclosed it acquired in September 2010. The Commission’s investigation in this matter is ongoing.
The Commission cautions broker-dealers, shareholders, and prospective purchasers that they should carefully consider the foregoing information along with all other currently available information and any information subsequently issued by the company.
Further, brokers and dealers should be alert to the fact that, pursuant to Rule 15c2-11 under the Exchange Act, at the termination of the trading suspension, no quotation may be entered unless and until they have strictly complied with all of the provisions of the rule. If any broker or dealer has any question as to whether or not he has complied with the rule, he should not enter any quotation but immediately contact the staff in the Division of Trading and Markets, Office of Interpretation and Guidance, at (202) 551-5777. If any broker or dealer is uncertain as to what is required by Rule 15c2-11, he should refrain from entering quotations relating to 8000, Inc.’s securities until such time as he has familiarized himself with the rule and is certain that all of its provisions have been met. If any broker or dealer enters any quotation which is in violation of the rule, the Commission will consider the need for prompt enforcement action.
If any broker-dealer or other person has any information which may relate to this matter, the Boston Regional Office of the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is investigating the matter, should be telephoned at (617) 573-8900.
I was at the Rangers game the other day with both GW and his dad , and Leowanta's name came up
ROFL Does the Bush Crime Family know they are cousins of Hitler?
Remember Sr is related to the Queen, both are descendants of Adolf Hitler....(distant cousins)
I was just reading your post about last nights show. Funny but Miss Jane is starting to make me appreciate Marty a bit more. My jaw dropped when she accused Marty of playing "vindictively". Playing a vindictive game seems to be Miss Jane's entire agenda. I can't stand people who play the game personally, or sneak off cooking fish in the woods, plus coming back to camp eating more food and playing the poor victim role. Compare Marty to others what lies has he told? Has he been sneaking things behind peoples back? Marty is someone who is playing the game hard. Can't fault him for that. As far as being arrogant, there is a lot of that this season.
It was a surprise to me how much Benry despised Alina. Never heard of dirt squirrel before. LOL
One more thing that changed for me after the merge last night. I'm actually starting to cheer for Fabio. How bizarre is that? lol
This season was a bore until last nights merge.
fung_derf, they say everything is big in Texas. Here's proof........
By: leowanta
04 Nov 2010, 11:48 AM EDT
Rating: Msg. 968555 of 968606
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this is Bush Sr's Criminal Cabel trying to FENCE the stolen gold
Remember Sr is related to the Queen, both are descendants of Adolf Hitler....(distant cousins)
Foundation X is the alias for their real company name....which is
not being announced by this "Lord".
this is CERTIANLY the gold that was stolen from the twin towers in NYCity by the illuminati-Bush Sr Criminal cabel.....9/11 was the diversion of attention while Bush's men clothed in their smoke suits (conveintly covering up their identity) went into ground zero right after the explosion and pulled out the gold stored in the basement of the twin towers... i suspect this was the gold stolen from Fort Knox, after Richard Nixon took attention away from Fort Knox when he took us
off the Gold Standard....THANKS TO HENRY KISSENGER...WHO RUNS THE CRIMINAL CABEL...THE ILLUMINATI...
DOJ---ARREST ALL OF THEM...
it's clear to me right now, Kissenger/Clintons/Bushes, et al Bilderbergs are trying to "fence" the GOLD through the Queen....contacting the House of Lords....probably by the Queens
consent given to Kissenger
so easy to read.....the criminals cannot sell their gold
any other way!!!! They have to fence it.....THE MONORAIL IS THE TELL............THEY WANT TO DO IT ALSO IN THE U.S.A........
THANK YOU FATHER; i REMIND YOU OF YOUR PROMISE TO MAKE THE CROOKED STRAIGHT; TO TAKE THE SECRET TREASURES FROM DARK PLACES AND GIVE THEM
TO YOUR CHILDREN; i STAND ON THESE PROMISES AND ASK IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST EMMANUEL; FATHER THAT YOU GIVE THIS BLESSING OF WEALTH TO YOUR CHOSEN ELECT NOW FATHER; GOD SPEED. AMEN
leowanta
IF YOU DO THIS QUEEN ELIZABETH.....YOU ARE HAD!
THANK YOU FATHER
leowanta
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By: leowanta
04 Nov 2010, 02:06 PM EDT
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OKC Bombing...i also believe FBI/CIA bombed OKC to get
Fort Knox gold that was more than likely stored in
the basement of OKC Federal Building....perfect place
as OKC was guarded...a huge WAREHOUSE for GSA supplies.
that was under Clinton's watch....so was the WACO
burning murdering of the Branch Davinian cult...
so i wonder who in the cult knew about the FBI/CIA
plans to get the gold???????????????????????
i know first hand the FBI used Tim McVeigh as their
scapegoat....how do i know? i was given the understanding
by the Holy Spirit that Tim McVeigh was innocent and should
not be murdered;if he was murdered, something worse would happen
i tried to stop McVeigh's exacution..i only garnered 30 more days of life for him...i went to OKC to talk to the survivors about
forgiveness...and to show them evidence i had. However i met with strong opposition...first the plane ticket was not valid, the plane was overbooked and i got bumped...then i drove...a tornado theatened and the police were about to close the road....i drove on through...tornadoes were everywhere....i could see them in the clouds....i asked the Holy Spirit to hold them back and let me through....miraculously, the tornadoes went back up into the clouds there was not one touched down! Then, the FBI met me in OKC with adament opposition that i was not to speak to the survivors; the FBI called all the survivors and told them NOT TO COME! (i advertised in the OKC newspaper i was coming.)...IT WAS CLEAR THE FBI did not want me talking to the survivors...PERIOD.
Tim McVeigh was executed June 11th....3 months later September 11th
the twin towers were blown up.....
THE TRUTH BUSH SR, et.al: it's all coming to light.....
THANK YOU FATHER
leowanta
Is there some place, like they have at Disneyland, where I can put in a good word for you and recommend to Janice that you get a raise?
No thank you! When you ask for a raise Kingpin claims Tashkent is "like" Disneyland and away you go. Rumor has it they are not coming home from Tashkent until Economic Receipt is released.
Are you giving us a heads up that the Vogons are now involved? If so, I'm handing in my resignation pronto.
Hilarious!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56249385
but the credit goes to GOB. I must have missed that part of your post.
Thanks again to both of you.
The newest conspiracy the Xers are enamor with is Foundation X and it's a real hoot! LOL
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/71071,news-comment,news-politics,foundation-x-and-the-22bn-offer-to-rescue-britain
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/11/03/392971/the-parliamentary-foundation-x-files/
The parliamentary Foundation X-files [updated]
Posted by Joseph Cotterill on Nov 03 15:51.
Words … kind of fail here.
Thanks to blogger Hopi Sen, we present — without too much comment — the following, from a recent speech in the House of Lords by Lord James of Blackheath:
For the past 20 weeks I have been engaged in a very strange dialogue with the two noble Lords [Sassoon and Strathclyde], in the course of which I have been trying to bring to their attention the willing availability of a strange organisation which wishes to make a great deal of money available to assist the recovery of the economy in this country.
For want of a better name, I shall call it foundation X. That is not its real name, but it will do for the moment. Foundation X was introduced to me 20 weeks ago last week by an eminent City firm, which is FSA controlled. Its chairman came to me and said, “We have this extraordinary request to assist in a major financial reconstruction. It is megabucks, but we need your help to assist us in understanding whether this business is legitimate”…
Oh, all right, some quick comment by way of context — Lord Sassoon is Commercial Secretary to the Treasury and sits in the Cabinet, Lord Strathclyde leads the Conservative party in the House of Lords. And Lord James is a City grandee who consults Cerberus Capital Management, among others.
So it is kind of a big deal if Lord James got Lord Sassoon to talk to, erm, Foundation X around the time the Treasury was preparing its massive, gigantically time-consuming, spending review.
Which is exactly what Lord James did:
I made the phone call to my noble friend Lord Strathclyde on a Sunday afternoon-I think he was sitting on his lawn, poor man-and he did the quickest ball pass that I have ever witnessed. If England can do anything like it at Twickenham on Saturday, we will have a chance against the All Blacks. The next think [sic] I knew, I had my noble friend Lord Sassoon on the phone.
From the outset, he took the proper defensive attitude of total scepticism, and said, “This cannot possibly be right”. During the following weeks, my noble friend said, “Go and talk to the Bank of England”. So I phoned the governor and asked whether he could check this out for me. After about three days, he came back and said, “You can get lost. I’m not touching this with a bargepole; it is far too difficult. Take it back to the Treasury”.
(Ed –Mervyn! How rude!)
So I did. Within another day, my noble friend Lord Sassoon had come back and said, “This is rubbish. It can’t possibly be right”. I said, “I am going to work more on it”. Then I brought one of the senior executives from foundation X to meet my noble friend Lord Strathclyde. I have to say that, as first dates go, it was not a great success. Neither of them ended up by inviting the other out for a coffee or drink at the end of the evening, and they did not exchange telephone numbers in order to follow up the meeting.
I found myself between a rock and a hard place that were totally paranoid about each other, because the foundation X people have an amazing obsession with their own security. They expect to be contacted only by someone equal to head of state status or someone with an international security rating equal to the top six people in the world. This is a strange situation. My noble friends Lord Sassoon and Lord Strathclyde both came up with what should have been an absolute killer argument as to why this could not be true and that we should forget it. My noble friend Lord Sassoon’s argument was that these people claimed to have evidence that last year they had lodged £5 billion with British banks. They gave transfer dates and the details of these transfers. As my noble friend Lord Sassoon, said, if that were true it would stick out like a sore thumb. You could not have £5 billion popping out of a bank account without it disrupting the balance sheet completely. But I remember that at about the same time as those transfers were being made the noble Lord, Lord Myners, was indulging in his game of rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic of the British banking community. If he had three banks at that time, which had had, say, a deficiency of £1.5 million each, then you would pretty well have absorbed the entire £5 billion, and you would not have had the sore thumb stick out at that time; you would have taken £1.5 billion into each of three banks and you would have absorbed the lot. That would be a logical explanation-I do not know.
Neither do we. The next bit just has to be excerpted in full to be told:
My noble friend Lord Strathclyde came up with a very different argument. He said that this cannot be right because these people said at the meeting with him that they were still effectively on the gold standard from back in the 1920s and that their entire currency holdings throughout the world, which were very large, were backed by bullion. My noble friend Lord Strathclyde came back and said to me that he had an analyst working on it and that this had to be stuff and nonsense. He said that they had come up with a figure for the amount of bullion that would be needed to cover their currency reserves, as claimed, which would be more than the entire value of bullion that had ever been mined in the history of the world. I am sorry but my noble friend Lord Strathclyde is wrong; his analysts are wrong. He had tapped into the sources that are available and there is only one definitive source for the amount of bullion that has ever been taken from the earth’s crust. That was a National Geographic magazine article 12 years ago. Whatever figure it was that was quoted was then quoted again on six other sites on the internet-on Google. Everyone is quoting one original source; there is no other confirming authority. But if you tap into the Vatican accounts-of the Vatican bank-you come up with a claim of total bullion-
Lord De Mauley: The noble Lord is into his fifteenth minute. I wonder whether he can draw his remarks to a conclusion.
Lord James of Blackheath: The total value of the Vatican bank reserves would claim to be more than the entire value of gold ever mined in the history of the world.
My point on all of this is that we have not proven any of this. Foundation X is saying at this moment that it is prepared to put up the entire £5 billion for the funding of the three Is recreation; the British Government can have the entire independent management and control of it-foundation X does not want anything to do with it; there will be no interest charged; and, by the way, if the British Government would like it as well, if it will help, it will be prepared to put up money for funding hospitals, schools, the building of Crossrail immediately with £17 billion transfer by Christmas, if requested, and all these other things.
These things can be done, if wished, but a senior member of the Government has to accept the invitation to a phone call to the chairman of foundation X-and then we can get into business. This is too big an issue. I am just an ageing, obsessive old Peer and I am easily dispensable, but getting to the truth is not. We need to know what really is happening here. We ,ust find out the truth of this situation.
10.54 pm
Lord Shipley: My Lords, back to the spending review…
Ahem.
(Note that Lord James has made another strange speech, on immigration, recently.)
Finally, here’s Lord Sassoon himself on the matter, via Hansard:
Lord Myners: …Clearly, the noble Lord has access to the solution that, with one leap, will take all the Government’s problems of financing to a better place. The Minister has clearly been remarkably bad at responding to the noble Lord and we look forward to the Minister’s explanation now.
Lord Sassoon: I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Myners. He had great trouble keeping a straight face. I have to say that I took extremely seriously my noble friend Lord James of Blackheath’s suggestions that there were people who could help us out with our financial difficulty. The noble Lord, Lord Myners, thinks it is all a joke. I have been in detailed discussions over the past number of weeks with the noble Lord, Lord James of Blackheath, and of course we take seriously anyone who wants to invest in our economy. I know many people believe that there will be great opportunities in our infrastructure programme to invest in rebuilding our networks to underpin growth.
Looking at the video of the debate, the good Lord may not have been entirely serious on the ‘detailed discussions’ point, however.
All very strange, though. And we can only wonder which other troubled economy will get the Foundation X treatment.
(H/T former-FT Alphaviller Sam Jones)
Update: Felix Salmon and Jon Hendry reckon that Foundation X is The Office of International Treasury Control. Looks like it.
The OITC says it is, erm:
…the largest single owner of gold and platinum bullion in the World, in addition to being a major owner of Bank Debenture Securities, International Treasuries, Cash and other forms of securities…
And it also say it’s the world’s largest owner of Home Mortgage Securities. One hopes the OITC got through the subprime crisis OK.
Good stuff!
LOL The Pettit investigation was fascinating to follow. The site below was a riot to read.
http://www.weekly-recorder.com/newsarticles2008/searchresult.html?sw=John%20Pettit
Funny story about wiretapping the women Pettit had sex with.
http://www.weekly-recorder.com/newsarticles2008/020108fixation.htm
At least now Vinnie no longer has politicians protecting him.
But the SEC doesn't seem to care what he does?
Of course the SEC cares! That's why the SEC is suing Marco and requested to have the discovery investigation of his activities in 2010.
One would think if it were illegal to sell shares he would of stopped by now???
Murder is illegal yet we have serial killers. Delidog is a retired auto worker. How many years did he have to work to earn the amount of money the SEC has documented from the sell of unregister shares? Delidog is motivated by greed.
And jimmy, I'll post this in advance on a hunch that the Foundation X farce will find it's way on this board.
The Office of International Treasury Control (OITC) is a controversial organization that claims to be associated with the United Nations and the Federal Reserve, the central bank of the United States. It has attempted to deceive people and organizations in Ecuador, Fiji and the United Kingdom. The UN and Federal Reserve have denied any knowledge of or connection with OITC.[1][2] The purpose of the hoax is unknown.
The OITC's status
The OITC claims to be "an international institution registered under the United Nations (under UN Charter Control No: 10-60847) with substantial assets in its control" [3]. OITC spokesmen have claimed that the organisation has been chartered by the United Nations under a secret protocol and that "until today [it has been] a secret organization known by some particularly in the highest levels of banking".[citation needed] The OITC claims that it was established by "Governments of the World of Legal Decadency".[4]
However, it has consistently declined to publish any independent verification of its status, claiming that only individuals with a "level 3" or "level 5" security classification can see its "protocol for verification"[5]. According to an OITC spokesman, "the protocol for verification can only be undertaken by a senior member of the Government or the Reserve Bank. That's why you will never find anything about it on the Internet."[6] The UN is supposedly "legally bound" to respond to a verification request but only as long as the requisite protocols and procedures are followed, otherwise "no response will be received from the United Nations." The only way a verification request can be made is "through the UN headquarters in New York or Geneva, not via, or by, any sub-office of the UN."[2]. According to Keith Scott, the OITC's "Chief of Cabinet" and "Special Envoy and Executor for His Excellency Ray Cchat Dam", the OITC is run by the UN "under a concept of plausible deniability."[citation needed]
These claims have been denied by the United Nations. According to the UN, "there is no such thing as a 'UN Charter Control Number,' quoted by the organisation to prove its validity."[1] The UN's representative in Fiji was unable to "verify its existence and its security rating"[2] and the UN's representative in Colombia has stated that all UN agencies are listed on the UN's official website and that they know of no secret agencies [7].[unreliable source?]
Scott claims that the OITC was set up following a paper that he presented to the US Federal Reserve in 1998 requesting that Dr. Ray Chhat Dam of Thailand be appointed as "the sole arbiter of the centralized wealth of the world, which was controlled under the Federal Reserve under the Bank of International Settlements". OITC funds are said to be "held in an organization called the Institutional Parent Administration Account." [8]
Scott has also stated that the OITC's funds are "held in the Institutional Parent Administration Account of the Federal Reserve System." However, the US government has stated that "within the Federal Reserve there exists no organization or department with the initials OITC, nor anything similar to this." [7][unreliable source?] The Bank for International Settlements – an international organization representing central banks – has also denied any knowledge of the OITC.[9]
The physical location of the OITC is also unclear. According to a document produced by the OITC in March 2006, it has offices in Malaysia, the Netherlands, the United States, Australia and Ecuador.[10] Elsewhere it has been claimed that the OITC has head offices in Singapore and Cambodia.[11] However, the UK Daily Telegraph noted in 2005 that "the Bangkok number on their letterhead doesn't exist" and in April 2006 the Fiji Islands Trade and Investment Bureau found that the OITC "neither has any fixed address or office, nor are there any reliable contact addresses." Correspondence said to be from OITC officers lists Freeserve e-mail addresses as contacts. The organizations official website is http://www.unoitc.org.
Speaking at a press conference in Fiji, OITC representative Masi Kaumaitotoya told the local media: "Don't you ever, ever, ever again report negatively on OITC or we'll sue you for defamation."[6] Individuals claiming to represent the OITC have also accused online critics of "serious defamation in the plural" [sic][12].
[edit]The OITC and MG Rover
The OITC first came to public attention in 2005 with an attempted bid for the failed MG Rover Group in the United Kingdom. The London Daily Telegraph reported that "a Mr David Sale and a Dr Ray Dam claim to have offered to buy MG Rover for $5 billion." The Financial Times reported that the OITC had given the administrators a deposit of one pound, made out as a postal order.[1] According to Sale and Dam, Rover's administrators PriceWaterhouseCoopers (PWC) were refusing to take their bid seriously even though (according to them) Prime Minister Tony Blair had acknowledged it in a letter. However, PWC told the Telegraph that it had never heard of the OITC and the Prime Minister's office had no record of the OITC's letter.[4] The bid met with considerable skepticism among MG Rover enthusiasts[13] and was evidently discarded by the administrators, as the OITC did not appear on the final list of bidders.[citation needed]
[edit]The OITC and Ecuador
In late 2005 Germania Ullauri, the mayoress of the Ecuadorian municipality of Oña, travelled to Cambodia to meet representatives of the OITC to discuss an investment proposal. According to the local media, OITC called itself variously the Oficina Internacional de Control del Tesoro or Oficina Internacional de Control de Tesorería. It represented itself as being headquartered in Singapore, Cambodia and Malaysia, and declared its intention to establish an office in the Ecuadorian city of Guayaquil.
The OITC appointed Ullauri as its "ambassador" to the 219 municipalities of Ecuador. Following her trip to Cambodia, she convened a meeting of municipal leaders from Ecuador's Azuay, Cañar and Morona-Santiago Provinces to brief them on the OITC's proposals.[11]
The OITC proposed to invest US$150 million in a hydro-electric project in the region, subject to Ullauri placing $20,000 in a bank account in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia as a deposit. She paid in the money as requested in December 2005 but several months later there was no sign of the promised millions from the OITC.[14] In mid-April 2006 Ullauri publicly denounced the OITC as a fraud and lodged a complaint against its principal, Ray Cchat Dam, and two Ecuadorians said to be its local agents.[15]
[edit]The OITC and Fiji
In late February 2006, the OITC made a public offer to invest F$6 billion (US$3.5 billion) in a bank for indigenous Fijians, to be established in conjunction with the Viti Landowners and Resources Association (VLRA). Another $2.5 billion was later offered, for a total of $6 billion. The OITC's "Chief of Cabinet", Keith Scott, met with the Fijian finance minister Ratu Jone Kubuabola and 215 middle level Fijian chiefs to promise that the money would be brought to Fiji and that "this cannot be stopped by any human being."[16] According to Ratu Osea Gavidi of the VLRA, the bank would help Fijians to access funds for development purposes which they could not get from commercial organizations, and so make it easier for Fijians to obtain loans.[17] Ratu Osea claimed that the OITC had already invested $400 billion in China, though the Chinese Embassy in Fiji was unable to confirm this.[18]
A memorandum of understanding was signed on 3 March between Scott and the head of the VLRA, under which the OITC was to provide 50% of the bank's funding and the landowners the other 50%. They were expected to use their land and resources as collateral.[citation needed] Under the terms of the MOU, the OITC would fund equipment for landowners, the development of a "Community Aged Center", the development of a community-owned tourist and resort centre, the construction of modern prisons and support for a reforestation programme.[citation needed] The MOU was signed in chaotic circumstances which culminated in the attending journalists being thrown out by security guards acting for the OITC.[10] Ratu Osea Gavidi subsequently claimed that the OITC had already deposited $3 billion in a bank account but the Reserve Bank of Fiji's Deputy Governor, Sada Reddy, denied that any such transaction had taken place.[19]
The OITC's offer attracted immediate suspicion from a number of sources. The Fijian media played a leading role in questioning the bona fides of the OITC and pointed out the lack of verifiable information, to the evident annoyance of OITC representatives who threatened to sue "for so much the biggest insurance company in the world would not be able to pay the damages." [20] In response, the country's leading newspaper, the Fiji Times, ran a front-page open letter to the OITC's Keith Scott, declaring: "You cannot continue to refuse to tell us, the people of Fiji, who you are. ... Mere words and assurances are not enough. We want hard, commercial facts that we can check and verify."[21]
[edit]Government views
The Fijian government expressed serious concerns about the deal and the bona fides of the OITC. Fiji's finance ministry noted that the OITC had provided no proof that it had the money and the home affairs minister, Josefa Vosanibola, asked the immigration service and police to investigate the bona fides of Scott and the OITC.[20] Vosanibola said that the government had no knowledge of either party and noted that neither Scott nor the OITC had submitted an application to do business in Fiji, as required by immigration regulations. The Native Land Trust Board also told the Viti Landowners and Resources Association that it had "no legal authority to sell native land privately."[22]
The Prime Minister of Fiji, Laisenia Qarase, who is himself a former bank managing director, also questioned the deal. He told the Fiji Times newspaper, "I doubt the people will see the money" and commented that "no one in their right mind would inject such a large sum of money into an economy as small as ours. They (VLRA) must be careful when someone comes along and promises such a thing, they must check it out first." [16]
Following the Fijian government's request for a police investigation, Fiji Commissioner of Police Andrew Hughes told the media that "nothing that [the police] received gave credence or legitimacy to the organisation and Mr Scott ... What we can say is that the information that we do have at hand leads us to conclude that the proposed transaction is highly irregular, it is questionable and leaves me with a profound level of suspicion." He urged the Fijian parties to the OITC deal not to "send any money if it's requested as some form of an advanced fee for this transaction to proceed" (the sending of advance fees is a widely used method of fraud). He also disclosed that Keith Scott was "known by Australian authorities", though he was not at liberty to provide further details.[23]
The OITC's deal was viewed with scepticism in other areas of Fijian society. The country's Great Council of Chiefs expressed concern, noting that there had been recent high-profile instances of fraud, and advised Fijians to be careful about assessing such promises.[24] Fiji's newspapers ran numerous letters questioning the veracity of the OITC's claims. An online poll run by asked "Is Dr Keith Scott and OITC's multi-billion dollar donation to Fiji landowners genuine?"; 89% of respondents voted no.[citation needed] The Fiji Sun published a strongly-worded denunciation of the OITC, calling it "a scam in the making" and a "get-rich scheme".[25] However, some other prominent groups supported the deal. The Assembly of Christian Churches, an affiliate of the Viti Landowners and Resources Association, supported the deal and stated that it had no doubts about the bona fides of the OITC.[26]
In the end, the deal apparently fell through after the Fiji Islands Trade and Investment Board (FTIB) rejected an application to set up a bank, which had been submitted by an entity called Triunion Investment Holdings Limited on behalf of the OITC. The FTIB found that the OITC "neither has any fixed address or office nor are there any reliable contact addresses which are pivotal for approval of applications." The decision produced an angry response from the head of the VLRA, who vowed that "Our relationship with the OITC will continue no matter what." [27]
[edit]NGOs
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They have of late[when?] been targeting NGOs claiming to have billions of dollars to implement social projects that would benefit disadvantaged people on a global scale. They approach NGOs, engage in several meetings with them, draft proposals and then fail to produce information on transparency when donations or financing are spoken about.
As well as Mr David Sale, claiming to be the "Deputy Chief of the Council for the Cabinet, Special Global Envoy, Senior Commercial Adviser to H.E. Dr. R. C. Dam, Chairman of the Office of International Treasury Control", a Dr Richard Bentall has also been involved as a 'Senior Consultant' for the organisation.
As they claim to be a “Sovereign Entity” which in their own words is "effectively no different to a Sovereign Nation except for the fact that a Sovereign Entity holds “Sovereign” status without subjects", accounts are kept secret and only those who hold the relevant "International Security Clearance level" can have access to these accounts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_International_Treasury_Control
Re: Here: Smith Barney Not Connected With CMKM Diamonds
Thanks a bunch, oldno70!
oldno70
Wednesday, November 03, 2010 8:59:02 AM
Re: goodolboy post# 319989 Post # of 320017
Here: Smith Barney Not Connected With CMKM Diamonds
April 8, 2005 - It has come to our attention that various website chat room postings have suggested a relationship between Citigroup and/or Smith Barney and CMKM Diamonds (Symbol: CMKX) and CMKXtreme Racing. Please be advised that there is no relationship or connection whatsoever between Citigroup or Smith Barney and CMKM Diamonds or CMKXtreme Racing, and any statements to the contrary are false.
http://www.smithbarney.com/career_center/our_company/press_releases/archive/pr040805.html
Any idea who this guy is?
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=jjjp76
Someone who believed every word Surfit said until he discovered that slurpy was not Scott May brother of olympian gold medalist Misty May, but Ed Thompson a lying paid tout.
Other than that, I have no idea who he is.
Vinny is possibly the worst mobster EVER!
After learning that John Pettit passed away the other day, I did a search on Vinnie and up came the insurance fraud site. Immediately I thought it was because of the fires. But now we know that Vinnie IS allegedly capable of insurance fraud. Interesting huh?
If you recall, Pettit was the reason Vinnie went before the grand jury.
http://kdka.com/washington/Washington.County.District.2.1991157.html
He maintained his innocence and was never indicted.
Pettit was unseated in 2007 and was last seen in public in May when he was called to testify at a homicide hearing.
Pettit died Saturday at the age of 75 at UPMC Presbyterian Hospital in Pittsburgh.
http://www.weekly-recorder.com/newsarticles2008/020808pettit.htm
Pettit, the longest serving District Attorney in Washington County history has been the subject of an Federal investigation for over four years. Chief amongst the potential charges are that Pettit arranged for preferential treatment in exchange for political and possible monetary favors.
Speculation has settled on a group of individuals including well known private detective Michael Tarbuck, Car Dealer Vince LoCastro and a series of well known prostitutes and drug dealers.
even after Paul Applebaum at MH Meyerson stated the insiders were dumping fast and furious
The SEC also told them the insiders were screwing the shareholders.
Poor BOA let's all rally around themYes Poor BOA let's all rally around them
Searching for truthful answers can hardly be construe as "rally around them". You should appreciate someone like Deb (4profit) for making phones calls on your behalf seeking the truth.
Shame on anyone questioning them
The shame should be on people who support those who have repeatedly lied, and continue to lie without questioning THEM. It is weird that you have this attitude when plaintiffs are unloading their shares into months of false hype in PalTalk rooms etc..
BTW, you were defending Delidog who is now under investigation again.
I'll see if I can get the CITI disclaimer for you
That will be much appreciate, goodolboy. It is becoming increasingly difficult to watch folks stressing themselves with all these false dates of "ER" and misinformation.
Now they want to enlist the help of convicted felon Ashley Mote to pass on misinformation? Unbelievable!
Vincent A. LoCastro, arrested 10/21/2010 for Auto - padding/false claim in Canonsburg, PA
http://insurancefraud.org/arrests.lasso
10/21/2010 3:32 AM
Owner of used car dealership faces more charges
By Kathie O. Warco, Staff writer kwarco@observer-reporter.com
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CANONSBURG - The owner of a Canonsburg used car dealership was arrested Wednesday by agents of the state attorney general's office for allegedly making a false insurance claim.
Vincent A. LoCastro, 47, of 102 Standing Rock Drive, McMurray, is accused of filing the false claim for a Cadillac Escalade that was involved in a crash in Pittsburgh. The vehicle was being leased by his dealership, All Pro Auto Mall, 108 S. Central Ave.
The state attorney general's office was contacted by investigators for the Progressive and Esurance insurance companies.
"Basically, there was an insurance lapse on the Cadillac Escalade that was then involved in an accident," said Nils Fredericksen, deputy press secretary for Attorney General Tom Corbett. "New insurance was obtained and a claim was made, changing the date of the accident to make sure it was within the time period of coverage. A forged towing bill also was submitted."
Insurance for the vehicle was initially obtained from Progressive by Gregory Washington with All Pro Auto Mall and LoCastro designated as leinholders. Fredericksen said the insurance was canceled due to lack of payment. The policy expired Oct. 2, 2008, and the crash happened Nov. 21, 2008 when Washington's girlfriend, Shanice Jennings, was driving it.
Washington told investigators he told LoCastro the insurance had lapsed and that Progressive was going to help him go after the owner of the van that hit the Cadillac. Washington also told investigators he was not aware that another insurance policy was obtained until he was contacted by Esurance.
LoCastro reportedly filed a claim with Esurance indicating the wreck happened Dec. 1, 2008. He also reportedly submitted a tow bill indicating the vehicle had been in storage since Dec. 1 and not Nov. 20.
"This is fairly common," Fredericksen said of the fraudulent claim. "People believe it is OK to let insurance lapse and then fudge the truth. We deal with this almost daily."
LoCastro was arraigned before District Judge David Mark on charges including insurance fraud, attempted theft and forgery and released on his own recognizance. A preliminary hearing is set for Oct. 28 before Mark.
Earlier this year, LoCastro waived to court charges stemming from his alleged failure to pay the state money for fees collected on vehicles he sold at All Pro Auto Mall.
State police at the Washington barracks charged him with multiple violations, including 338 counts of applications for certificate of title and more than 500 counts of violating rules for registering vehicles. He also is charged with theft by failure to make required deposit of funds and tampering with public records.
He also faces charges filed by state police claiming fraudulent business practices at the dealership in 2007 and 2008.
LoCastro is tentatively expected to enter a plea Friday before Judge Janet Moschetta Bell.
http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/localnews/10-21-2010-locastro-arrested-w-headshot
10/27/2010
Used car dealership owner facing charges
By Kathie O. Warco Observer-Reporter kwarco@observer-reporter.com
The owner of a Canonsburg used car dealership was arrested Oct. 20 by agents of the state attorney general's office for allegedly making a false insurance claim.
Vincent A. LoCastro, 47, of 102 Standing Rock Drive, McMurray, is accused of filing the false claim for a Cadillac Escalade that was involved in a crash in Pittsburgh. The vehicle was being leased by his dealership, All Pro Auto Mall, 108 S. Central Ave.
The state attorney general's office was contacted by investigators for the Progressive and Esurance insurance companies.
"Basically, there was an insurance lapse on the Cadillac Escalade that was then involved in an accident," said Nils Fredericksen, deputy press secretary for Attorney General Tom Corbett. "New insurance was obtained and a claim was made, changing the date of the accident to make sure it was within the time period of coverage. A forged towing bill also was submitted."
Insurance for the vehicle was initially obtained from Progressive by Gregory Washington with All Pro Auto Mall and LoCastro designated as leinholders. Fredericksen said the insurance was canceled due to lack of payment. The policy expired Oct. 2, 2008, and the crash happened Nov. 21, 2008 when Washington's girlfriend, Shanice Jennings, was driving it.
Washington told investigators he told LoCastro the insurance had lapsed and that Progressive was going to help him go after the owner of the van that hit the Cadillac. Washington also told investigators he was not aware that another insurance policy was obtained until he was contacted by Esurance.
LoCastro reportedly filed a claim with Esurance indicating the wreck happened Dec. 1, 2008. He also reportedly submitted a tow bill indicating the vehicle had been in storage since Dec. 1 and not Nov. 20.
"This is fairly common," Fredericksen said of the fraudulent claim. "People believe it is OK to let insurance lapse and then fudge the truth. We deal with this almost daily."
LoCastro was arraigned before District Judge David Mark on charges including insurance fraud, attempted theft and forgery and released on his own recognizance. A preliminary hearing is set for Oct. 28 before Mark.
Earlier this year, LoCastro waived court charges stemming from his alleged failure to pay the state money for fees collected on vehicles he sold at All Pro Auto Mall.
State police at the Washington barracks charged him with multiple violations, including 338 counts of applications for certificate of title and more than 500 counts of violating rules for registering vehicles. He also is charged with theft by failure to make required deposit of funds and tampering with public records.
He also faces charges filed by state police claiming fraudulent business practices at the dealership in 2007 and 2008.
http://www.thealmanac.net/alm/story10/10-27-2010-locastro-arrested
There are some truly disturbed people involved with this stock.
But this is so very, very sad.
Generic, the situation is beyond out of control. Someone has to end this fiasco soon before others are harm.
How are my boys doin'
Eeewwww!!!
I don't know and don't care. Please keep your boys to yourself!
When Citi did it, most of them weren't as far gone as they are now.
Yeah, but with shareholders stressed out and dropping dead waiting for announcements that are never coming something has to be done for their own good.
The cease and desist order sounds like a good idea.
go2guy
Re: Called BOA Richmond VA
« Reply #11 Today at 3:34pm »
Today at 3:15pm, pickleman773 wrote:
I'd love to see BOA file suit against Hodges for his stupid remarks
Unfortunately for Dumb and Dumber, they don't realize that they are now "really" on the Homeland Security watch list. I would consider them as "Financial Terrorists" with the BOA under surveilance....
It was all fun and games when Cottrell was pumping Leo Wanta, but now that he's got his Stooge, Al Hodges pulling all the attention of the CMKX Sheeple, the harassment of BOA officials and employees has gotten out of hand. With this increased pressure on BOA, their patience with Mr. Hodges, et al. will eventually come to an end....I believe a cease and desist order will be presented to them with a demand to explain themselves to shareholders to stop badgering BOA
What is this gentleman's connection to CMKX again?
needdiamonds, here ya go. Mind you, they claim to have provided "financing" in 1999. Just the mere thought of someone like Joan Shapiro having money for "financing" is laughable. It will be a major disappointment if more people are not indicted for their role in this scam, imo.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=50546690
Edit: Scroll half way down for LoCastro info.
I guess he just can't stop...
How many people has this crook stolen from all these years?
Urban gave a bunch of CMKX shares to the LoCastro's for what services? duh!
It's just amazing the Xers still delude themselves with this sting nonsense. Gary Walter was in on this scam from the very beginning. Did HE ever say this was a sting? Heck no! He knew it was a scam from the get go. Setting up scams was his forte. He told the story about Turino/Vinnie/Edwards muscling him out of the scam.
Walter is a convicted felon who ratted on others for their role in this scam. Some of the Xers should review his posts for a reality check.
pantherj, this insurance fraud arrest is completely separate from the nine-count identity theft indictment Vinnie was charged with last year.
Is this crook going to get arrested every year for a multitude of crimes? Will he still get indicted for his role in the CMKX scam? Whatever the heck that role was. sheesh....
http://www.justice.gov/usao/paw/pr/2009_december/2009_12_29_02.html
MCMURRAY MAN CHARGED WITH IDENTITY THEFT
Acting United States Attorney Robert S. Cessar announced today, December 29, 2009, that Vincent A. Locastro of McMurray, Pennsylvania, has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Pittsburgh on charges of identity theft.
The nine-count indictment named Locastro, as the sole defendant.
According to indictment, Locastro used the name, date of birth and social security number of a person known to the grand jury to acquire nine car financing loans on luxury cars. The four banks involved lost more than $330,000.
Assistant United States Attorney Nelson P. Cohen, who presented the case to the grand jury, indicated that the law provides for a maximum total sentence per count of 15 years in prison, a fine of $250,000, or both. Under the Federal Sentencing Guidelines, the actual sentence imposed would be based upon the seriousness of the offenses and the prior criminal history, if any, of the defendant.
The Pennsylvania State Police and the United States Postal Inspection Service conducted the investigation leading to the indictment in this case.
An indictment is only a charge and is not evidence of guilt. A defendant is presumed innocent and is entitled to a fair trial at which the government must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
OMG! Vincent A. LoCastro, arrested 10/21/2010 for Auto - padding/false claim in Canonsburg, PA
Insurance fraud is five years! Stick a fork in Vinnie the Torch! DONE
http://insurancefraud.org/arrests.lasso
Vincent A. LoCastro, arrested 10/21/2010 for Auto - padding/false claim in Canonsburg, PA
10/21/2010 3:32 AM
Owner of used car dealership faces more charges
By Kathie O. Warco, Staff writer kwarco@observer-reporter.com
This article has been read 4569 times.
CANONSBURG - The owner of a Canonsburg used car dealership was arrested Wednesday by agents of the state attorney general's office for allegedly making a false insurance claim.
Vincent A. LoCastro, 47, of 102 Standing Rock Drive, McMurray, is accused of filing the false claim for a Cadillac Escalade that was involved in a crash in Pittsburgh. The vehicle was being leased by his dealership, All Pro Auto Mall, 108 S. Central Ave.
The state attorney general's office was contacted by investigators for the Progressive and Esurance insurance companies.
"Basically, there was an insurance lapse on the Cadillac Escalade that was then involved in an accident," said Nils Fredericksen, deputy press secretary for Attorney General Tom Corbett. "New insurance was obtained and a claim was made, changing the date of the accident to make sure it was within the time period of coverage. A forged towing bill also was submitted."
Insurance for the vehicle was initially obtained from Progressive by Gregory Washington with All Pro Auto Mall and LoCastro designated as leinholders. Fredericksen said the insurance was canceled due to lack of payment. The policy expired Oct. 2, 2008, and the crash happened Nov. 21, 2008 when Washington's girlfriend, Shanice Jennings, was driving it.
Washington told investigators he told LoCastro the insurance had lapsed and that Progressive was going to help him go after the owner of the van that hit the Cadillac. Washington also told investigators he was not aware that another insurance policy was obtained until he was contacted by Esurance.
LoCastro reportedly filed a claim with Esurance indicating the wreck happened Dec. 1, 2008. He also reportedly submitted a tow bill indicating the vehicle had been in storage since Dec. 1 and not Nov. 20.
"This is fairly common," Fredericksen said of the fraudulent claim. "People believe it is OK to let insurance lapse and then fudge the truth. We deal with this almost daily."
LoCastro was arraigned before District Judge David Mark on charges including insurance fraud, attempted theft and forgery and released on his own recognizance. A preliminary hearing is set for Oct. 28 before Mark.
Earlier this year, LoCastro waived to court charges stemming from his alleged failure to pay the state money for fees collected on vehicles he sold at All Pro Auto Mall.
State police at the Washington barracks charged him with multiple violations, including 338 counts of applications for certificate of title and more than 500 counts of violating rules for registering vehicles. He also is charged with theft by failure to make required deposit of funds and tampering with public records.
He also faces charges filed by state police claiming fraudulent business practices at the dealership in 2007 and 2008.
LoCastro is tentatively expected to enter a plea Friday before Judge Janet Moschetta Bell.
http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/localnews/10-21-2010-locastro-arrested-w-headshot
10/27/2010
Used car dealership owner facing charges
By Kathie O. Warco Observer-Reporter kwarco@observer-reporter.com
The owner of a Canonsburg used car dealership was arrested Oct. 20 by agents of the state attorney general's office for allegedly making a false insurance claim.
Vincent A. LoCastro, 47, of 102 Standing Rock Drive, McMurray, is accused of filing the false claim for a Cadillac Escalade that was involved in a crash in Pittsburgh. The vehicle was being leased by his dealership, All Pro Auto Mall, 108 S. Central Ave.
The state attorney general's office was contacted by investigators for the Progressive and Esurance insurance companies.
"Basically, there was an insurance lapse on the Cadillac Escalade that was then involved in an accident," said Nils Fredericksen, deputy press secretary for Attorney General Tom Corbett. "New insurance was obtained and a claim was made, changing the date of the accident to make sure it was within the time period of coverage. A forged towing bill also was submitted."
Insurance for the vehicle was initially obtained from Progressive by Gregory Washington with All Pro Auto Mall and LoCastro designated as leinholders. Fredericksen said the insurance was canceled due to lack of payment. The policy expired Oct. 2, 2008, and the crash happened Nov. 21, 2008 when Washington's girlfriend, Shanice Jennings, was driving it.
Washington told investigators he told LoCastro the insurance had lapsed and that Progressive was going to help him go after the owner of the van that hit the Cadillac. Washington also told investigators he was not aware that another insurance policy was obtained until he was contacted by Esurance.
LoCastro reportedly filed a claim with Esurance indicating the wreck happened Dec. 1, 2008. He also reportedly submitted a tow bill indicating the vehicle had been in storage since Dec. 1 and not Nov. 20.
"This is fairly common," Fredericksen said of the fraudulent claim. "People believe it is OK to let insurance lapse and then fudge the truth. We deal with this almost daily."
LoCastro was arraigned before District Judge David Mark on charges including insurance fraud, attempted theft and forgery and released on his own recognizance. A preliminary hearing is set for Oct. 28 before Mark.
Earlier this year, LoCastro waived court charges stemming from his alleged failure to pay the state money for fees collected on vehicles he sold at All Pro Auto Mall.
State police at the Washington barracks charged him with multiple violations, including 338 counts of applications for certificate of title and more than 500 counts of violating rules for registering vehicles. He also is charged with theft by failure to make required deposit of funds and tampering with public records.
He also faces charges filed by state police claiming fraudulent business practices at the dealership in 2007 and 2008.
http://www.thealmanac.net/alm/story10/10-27-2010-locastro-arrested
Glad to see that discovery's been reopened.
Was there ever any doubt? LOL
Especially when Delidog did his little philanthropic act. THAT was a red flag that Delidog needed some act of kindness for a defense, imo.
Delidog may not be alone this time.
did you think they were going to say oh yeah we have the money here
What other hoaxes are you following? LOL
I'm surprised, really, that they didn't have their security guards eject him earlier. Most banks don't like to have weirdos hanging around
Makes you wonder. Are they humoring Hodges with other intentions in mind?
Deb (4profit) is a no nonsense type of gal. If she said she made the call, than you can trust that the info she posted is accurately reported.
I thought these statements were interesting.
The fact they know about the notes, means i'm not the first caller or things are being monitored elsewhere. BOA is aware of someone else also.........
Yes, the bank also recognizes Bonney as a person inquiring about Trillions. Management also said, the amount they are inquiring about is more than combined assets of the bank.
There is a possibility that we may take a trip this month. Our hosts are planing a social gathering with one of the invited guest being an executive from BofA. If there are not too many distractions I intend on inquiring if he knows about Hodges visit to the Richmond bank. If they know about the pending lawsuit against SEC commissioners, World Reports, Bonney lawsuit, and Cottrell/Wilcox/Delmarva Timber Trust.
I also intend to mention the Citicorp episode where they had to place a disclaimer on their website denying any involvement with CMKX. I'm going to request if they can similarly place a disclaimer on their website at least for the sanity of these poor Xers. When Citi put up their denial it seemed to have a sobering effect on the Xers. BTW, does that Citicorp website still exist? If it does, I would like to print it out.
Deli chit hitting the fan again! The Delidog defenders accused us bashers of making a mountain out of a molehill when we told them Delidog was clearly repeating his illegal behavior of selling unregister stock and acting as an unlicensed broker. They refuse to listen....AGAIN!
Sure hope Miss Thingthong and Deli haven't taken off to Thailand.
By: carmelbeach
02 Nov 2010, 03:04 PM EDT
Rating: Msg. 968082 of 968104
(Reply to 968005 by lilburrito0)
MARCO GLISSON CASE - DISCOVERY OPEN re 2010
By: lilburrito0
02 Nov 2010, 10:55 AM EDT
Msg. 968005 of 968079
(Msg. is a reply to 967991 by chuck522450.)
chuck522450, the judge has granted the SEC's motion to reopen discovery and the SEC is now investigating the recent trades by Marco and his wife.
10/29/2010
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ORDER granting 37 Motion to Extend Time 90 days for the limited purpose of developing discovery and preserving evidence concerning Glisson's conduct in 2010. Discovery due by 1/26/2011. The hearing on November 1, 2010 at 10:30 a.m. is vacated. Signed by Magistrate Judge George Foley, Jr on October 29, 2010. (Copies have been distributed pursuant to the NEF - JBW) (Entered: 10/29/2010)
Funny new strategy for selling something, inform the purchaser that they are worthless and probably will be impossible to transfer, then raise the price. I guess he's selling them now as collectors items.
As if Treffry giving a money back guarantee has any value whatsoever!
The California Bar must be so proud to have this guy as a member!
pantherj, don't worry djzzzz is on the case. The comedy gets better by the minute.
By: leowanta
02 Nov 2010, 12:25 PM EDT
Rating: Msg. 968039 of 968051
(Reply to 968027 by lilburrito0)
lilburrito0...on your proboard
please share with go2guy, he was asking for the legal grounds for suit against Al Hodges, et al.
it's the False Claims Act, i've already given Al Hodges, and his
plaintiffs NOTICE...by phone, for their fraudulent claims...i did it
when he went to BOA to try and capture my money., without my consent...probably flashing his bivens lawsuit around, claiming i was
one of his clients (as similarly situated) that he put in his lawsuit, and not getting permission from that "class" to do so...that's FALSE CLAIMS....CMKERS AND IT'S ACTIONABLE IN COURT.
that's why Al Hodges is so quiet....AGAIN I REPEAT: whatever he says, can and will be held against him in a court of law....
this is going to end people...no more grandstanders.
THANK YOU FATHER
leowanta
By: leowanta
02 Nov 2010, 12:41 PM EDT
Rating: Msg. 968043 of 968053
(Reply to 968042 by leowanta)
OOOPPPSSSS SOMEONE JUST TOOK OVER MY BROWSER....
is it doj? is it SEC? is it da bad boyz? no matter
all will come out in the "wash"...."it will be grand!"
if you haven't seen the new movie "Leap Year" with Amy Adams
you're in for a treat!
watched another really funny movie last night with Ben Stiller...
"Life in the Museum" it's a juvenille movie but really a treat!
leowanta!
BOA is aware of the stories Mr. Hodges is putting in print, his allegations and firmly Deny any of what Mr. Hodges is representing, as being true.
4profit
Called BOA Richmond VA
« Thread Started Yesterday at 3:37pm »
After calls to the local newspapers & TV stations, who rely on Police Reports for their facts in reporting local news..... knew nothing of these events & said, no local police logs, scanners, indicate such reports. Called the bank. Found the location to be on Main Street.
The person with whom i spoke, when asking, if an occurrence as described in notes Sept 24 2010 happened? The reply was, "I am aware of the person you are inquiring about as I have spoken with him many times. I can assure you, no such things happened" i then asked if he was in fact speaking of A Clifton Hodges, licensed attorney in California? He identified Hodges as the man to whom he has spoken with. BOA is aware of the stories Mr. Hodges is putting in print, his allegations and firmly Deny any of what Mr. Hodges is representing, as being true. The fact they know about the notes, means i'm not the first caller or things are being monitored elsewhere. BOA is aware of someone else also.........
i asked about Mr. Bonney, whom the bank management also confirmed his physical presence. Yes, the bank also recognizes Bonney as a person inquiring about Trillions. Management also said, the amount they are inquiring about is more than combined assets of the bank. The bank denies any such incidents, they did not call local police, nor throw Mr. Hodges out of the bank, nor anyone else as stated in World Report type info. They Deny Mr. Hodges was met, once outside the bank & across the street, by ANY squad cars, including a canine unit.
i had to give my name and location & reason for interest in this story before any comment was issued.
Hodges' response of proof in his allegations is due in court, to try & keep his case alive. None exists. None exists for Bonney nor Cottrell either. A word of caution Al, before it's too late.......but then, i suspect, it may already be.
This was an effort to hear from the otherside, this is just what was said. We try to get the truth here. Dunno, that's their story.
Edit: Caution=Bonney
http://qbidtalk.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7351
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56099056
I talk with the banking staff at length including the managing VP
[who curiously doesn’t even know who Ben Bernanke is]; although the bank was
clearly stonewalling, I remained there until closing time at which I was thrown
out. I walked back across the street to the hotel and was greeted by the local
Police; eventually there were a total of four cruisers there plus a canine
unit. After 1.75 hours they finally withdrew. The company and Pentagon later
confirmed that a trap had been set by Obama to confiscate the $$$. Bonney had
the release codes with him and we could have gone into the bank and insisted on
using them; if we had, Obama intended to confiscate all the $$ and accuse Bonney
of taking funds w/o valid authorization in the form of new release codes
specifically provided to him at the time of invitation into the bank. $$$ was
then transferred to a FED holding account for safekeeping until Monday @ 10:00
you think when urban finally shows up at trial, he'll be a witness for the prosecution?
CHUNKY44, so far there is nothing in Urban's history to suggest he is cooperating with the authorities. He has left a trail of invoking his 5th amendments and many default judgements. We also hear that the authorities are actively seeking extradition from Canada.
According to the indictments Urban is charge with some of the most serious allegations. It was Urban who lured the investors into this scam. He was the front man. The amount he is accused of stealing is also the highest. IMO, it is very doubtful Urban will be a witness for the prosecution.
When Surfit was subpoenaed to testify in the Barnett/Houser suit/counter suit by Barnett's attorneys; Houser managed to get the subpoena quashed by a California attorney
The question still remains, who is the California attorney?
Surfit and Squid both were shameless BMCS pumpers in the beginning
Yep. And if I'm not mistaken Treff posted that he was buying up shares BEFORE the deal was completed with Houser.
Surfit pumped OMDA early on too, and Treff was right behind him. If I'm not mistaken again it was when the notorious Joe Lanza was still CEO. Here is something to ponder. Did Slurp have a heads up that Barnett was about to muscle his way into OMDA?
Surfit may be an illiterate druggie, but I'd say he is pretty street smart.
Didn't he at least once or twice get caught for breaking and entering?
And how Calamari Charlie always spilled stuff on his tie. And how he used to ask other diners if he could finish their meals.
LOL Two Chairs Calamari Charlie stories still crack me up!
There was just no end to the stories...
How about when Mad Mikey tried to explain his daily transactions at the casinos? He acted like it was a normal business practice. As if HE couldn't understand why the SEC was having a difficult time understanding exactly what he was doing. No wonder the guy was eventually convicted of banking fraud.
Oh man, unbelievable.....
we have people croaking as they breathlessly await Eggies next lie, the Supreme Court, Obama and the Queen involved in the payout, and trillions of dollars just waiting for some shareholders account to land in.
What's unbelievable is they are concern about eggie and how hard he taking the news of this guys death. eggie reminds me of the kid who cried wolf too many times. So what if he is a head case? Playing around with peoples emotions the way he does is truly demented. This was like an accident waiting to happen, imo.
And now another plaintiff wyatt says no announcement till Wednesday?
(5:45 PM) wyatt11_11: : No announcements tonight. Looks like Wednesday now after the election. All is well just a slight change in plan. Have a great night and remeber to get out and Vote
To Bhollenegg:
OMG...I just read what you said to 3bid...its not YOUR FAULT...please know this...Michael was up...watching the boards...as he does alot...waiting as he does alot...NOT YOUR FAULT...his choice...
This is Gina (gmls66 in Mels Room) Snapster (Todd) is my husband. Michael was our bestest friend...he had health issues...he was scared to go to the doctor...he was worried he might find something wrong...he chose to do it on his own...went to gyms & ate well and shared with me and many others, the health message he so long strived to achieve to show in himself. He was not showing any signs of breathing issues...but had sleep apnea and was overweight a lot but he had lost lots of weight and was overcoming some fears he had...we were both in the middle of getting baptized over 11 years ago...he bowed out at the last minute but eventually he made it and gave his entire life to Christ...he was a good man and these times are more than hard for us right now. We can only hope, his greatest desire, to take care of his family & friends financially, can become a reality and not have the past 7 years of his life in vain...his choice though...not yours...Mr Hollen...you were of great comfort to Michael...he cherished you...not because you had a message of great payment...but because you were human to Michael...you befriended him...thats more than any riches can ever be gifted to one human being in a lifetime. Please...share this with the boards...do not take this personally...you helped him become a better man as you have helped all of us become better people...circumstances change...and the mature shareholders know this...we all win together at the same time...some will now have to take up Michael's torch & help his family & friends cope with the loss and the financial gain they will shortly become part of...Michael would have wanted you to take care of yourself & your family...that would have been his greatest wish for you...
May Blessings,
gmls66
And then there was his explanation of how he got suitcases full of gems from Amazonian indians in exchange for "Coke and mirrors"...
Still howling just thinking about all those Amazonian Indian stories Mad Mikey told. One of those little stone gem birdies would have been a nice souvenir though. lol
Another favorite story was the "hardship" of feeding Two Chairs Calamari Charlie. Mad Mikey was "pouting" how Two Chairs insisted they take him out to lunch all the time and it took "thousands" of investors money to feed the big guy.
Too funny when Mad Mikey explained to the SEC lawyers how much Calamari Charlie would eat, and he couldn't fit into the booth so they had to bring extra chairs for Calamari Charlie to sit on and.........
You could just imagine the SEC attorneys thinking, "what the ffff......there he goes with these crazy stories again"!
He had a lot of nerve. And he was really nuts.
More like criminally insane.
The depositions he gave to the SEC were beyond hilarious.
The first time I read the depositions it took forever because of all the breaks for laughing too hard. The second time was no better. It was like a comedy routine where the SEC attorneys were unwilling straight men setting up Mad Mikey crazy stories. Their frustration was so obvious it made Sylver's testimony funnier. He just ranted on and on about the most inane things.
BTW, do you know if Mad Mikey testified on the witness stand for his trial? The image of a jury listening to his BS is enough to make you spew nachos across the room. ;)
been reading Sqid's diatribes & lies for many years. Whoever "defenderus" is, I doubt its the fatboy
Agree.
Interesting to see a little light shed on surfit's role in the BMCS scam.
From what we have glean so far, Ed has been one protected dude in this scandal. Will we ever really know exactly what his role was in all of these scams? It was always my gut feeling that his role was more than just a paid message board tout. He would repeatedly make veil threats to expose EVERYTHING he knew about the operation IF he didn't get what he wanted. Every single time he almost immediately came back to the boards touting these scams as if nothing happen. It was so obvious that his role was more than an observer, especially with his relationship to Bobby McAllister, imo.
It was evident Mr. Houser was coached by Bruce Harlan and Ed Thompson as to what to say in the depositions.
Here is a very interesting statement.
39. I am familiar with Keith Houser. I personally paid for multiple plane tickets for Mr. Houser and his attorney William Haseltine in an attempt to try to sell his Halo Laser and made trips on his behalf.
So Haseltine is presented as Housers attorney in this "DECLERATION OF JEFFEREY GEORGE TURINO"? When Haseltine was involved with GBDX and on his way to Russia, who was he representing? How about SGGM? Did Turino ever personally paid for Haseltine's expenses besides BMCS business? My, my, my............
This is hilarious stuffium!