SAYS: TPG GETS PAID, ABIGHAMMER GETS PAID !!!
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realize something...and you have accuarately posted it several times indeed.... that being the air permit and the SW permit go hand in hand, in a manner of speaking.
but, let me take it a step further. the SW permit is not a no brainer affair. if you, or anyone thinks the NYDEC is just going to hand out a permit to a company that will [hopefully] have thousands of tons of solid waste/garbage/recyclables/tires/anything else that can be P2O processed lying around without specific guidelines, plans, emergency preparedness, waste water concerns, etc.. etc.. ad nauseum......
well.... they wont. period.
like i said priorly, no SW, no AP.
i suspect that when the air permit is not issued expediently like has been proffered here, people will start to look for bona fide links as to how the thought was even established in the first place that the permit was imminent.
my guess then, when none are furnished, other than the proverbial "he said -she saids"..... that price of .57 will look massive in comparison to coming days.
Scion, excellent points. but THIS is what really matters:
JBII share price: .57
[and most likely headed lower]
i wouldnt count on hearing anything anytime soon from Dodd, thats certain enough.
you're playing semantics with words/wording.
lets put it more simply, so ALL understand:
let them NOT get a SWP, or fill out the paperwork.
see how long they stay in operation.
that is, of course, IF, THE AIR PERMIT IS EVER ISSUED. and they ever do begin some type of miniscule production process.
Rawnoc, would you agree that share price will demise dramatically if the info by several people proves [ultimately] incorrect?
my guess is we ratchet down to .25 without any trouble if this is the case. i realize many people glean info from what is posted here on board about the stock.
which, is why i try to seek linkable bonafide evidence. unfortunately i dont find "as confirmed by several people who called today" to fall into that category.
as far as the senator's endorsement goes, clearly he is considered a pathetic, powerless dork by the NYDEC. his letter to them is nearly two months old, and being ignored by the day.
well, it seems your post infers that i didnt call. and, of course thats hardly the case.
and certainly my post doesnt infer they are less than very friendly, either for that matter. i just stated what i gleaned.
and its nice to see you mods giving my post equal time as a sticky note. thank you for being objective.
holy crow.... first post !!!!!!! this stock could be a real sleeper. pretty low EPS !!!!
holy crap... first post !!!!!!!!!!!! heres one that certainly fits the bill: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=11344
wowwwwwwww... first posting !!!! at any rate, heres a link:
http://oddmolly.com/
simple. life is cruel, he will suffer/pay.
hello???? anyone home???
well... looks like mr. assange has some serious problems brewing. time will tell how he fares.
wowwwwwwww first post !!!!!!!!
DEC UPDATE -- PERMIT EXPECTED NEXT WEEK
As confirmed by several people who called today.
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odd.... heres a post that suggests otherwise. now what? heres a suggestion, sticky post both, so that both sides of the equation receive equal notice:
i'll step in here, out of sequence, and share what i gleaned.
consider this to be [another example].
and, of course realize i am a former mod here on the board, with nearly 350 posts under my belt, vs. (one example) cited from a first time poster.
The DEC claims they have made no specific representations that an air permit is forthcoming within a week. in fact, my feeling is that they would never represent to anyone any specific timeframe about a permit that is underway.
so, there you have it. yet, another version. please sticky so equal representation can be made for both opinions/facts/sides of the story.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57375826
there is absolutely no link where the DEC states "next week if not sooner", directly. clearly, a poster arbitrarily stating they were given info that the DEC stated "next week if not sooner", is hardly a direct, and credible link.
i welcome any converse, factual info.
Correct. if, only they could.
nor do I, Scion. in fact, i am very concerned about this lawsuit. it seems to have legs and merit, inasmuch as its longevity, i.e., not being dismissed on lack thereof.
in general, its not good when the CEO, or a company is getting sued. especially in its fledgling stage.
please keep reporting the status, as many of us are interested.
if this thing gets more leg, and the court finds against "honest John"...........its gonna be a whole new ballgame around here. no doubt he will be thrust into the same tier as any other scummy pinky CEO.
and by the looks of this suit, hes more than half way there.
give her a few mins, okay? shes just gettin back from a romantic candlelit dinner at a posh restaurant. then, if she can type after the martinis, you may get something.
http://www.famousdaves.com/Wilmington
he threatened his dog?
oh, sure. hang on for a bit though... lemme re-listen to the whole friggn thing, and while i'm doin that, i will re-read the last 1000 posts here so both aspects are fresh in my mind,
then i will synopsize it for you. no problem.
always looking to help out a first time poster, particularly with a near first place in ridiculousness request.
looks like Wamuq had a great day today. things could be looking up dramatically going forward.
stockman478, since you yourself made reference to the info you received, possibly being "poppycock", naturally i will take the liberty to agree with you.
the info you proffer from other sources is chock full of forward looking info, nearly as much as one of JB/JBII's 10Q's !!!!
e.g........... "should be submitted......if not sooner......could be tomorrow.....not a big deal.....
heres what i go by: facts. when its in hand, then we have it. not too much to dispute at that juncture. much like the thought i proffered last night about a Canadian air permit being the same as one issued by the NYDEC. simply laughable. an air permit issued by the NYDEC is an air permit issued by the NYDEC.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57280756
“Certificate of Approval for Air” in Ontario is equivalent to a NYDEC Air Permit in the United States
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57279811
period.
well, since you have zero concrete linkage to commercial production, and the air permit being completely synonymous and the end game so to speak, i'll stick with my figmented imagination.
more specifically, that i firmly believe many more hurdles[permits] will be necessary prior to commercial production.
i'm still trying to ponder what kind of "hell" is going to break loose, in 7 days or less, if an air permit, is even issued?
more specifically, are you supposing/proposing/intimating that the only hurdle JBII has left to begin commercial production, i.e., P2O revenue stream is an air permit????????????????
i am highly doubtful of that. i truly suspect there will be myriad paperwork/permit hurdles for JBII prior to any type of commercial production.
also, "expected within 7 days, and as soon as tomorrow".......... and reality are two distinctly different timelines.
jeeze, thank god yu are a want to be master photographer. imagine if you were a want to be master earthworm farmer?
they'd have to call you a want to be master baiter then.
heheh
better than what u been givin up lately. i.e., none.
heheh
actually, i think this would be the prudent, and accurate way of interpreting info from the 10Q:
the equivalent to a NYDEC Air Permit [in N.Y.] would be the issuance of a NYDEC Air Permit, pure and simple.
Canadian and Domestic [USA]criteria and policy are hardly reciprocal in any manner regarding this issue.
and, as i illustrated priorly, another day without a permit, another down day price wise.
expect more of the same.
about the only thing 100% correct about the JBII 20 tonner is that its currently not in production, and is un-permitted for commercial use.
so, at this time, the only thing JBII is producing is lower stock prices, one day at a time.
doesnt look like all too many people are quite impressed with JBII at the moment, thats certain enough.
a near historic low price of .60 +- surely isnt indicative of that. particularly on the paltry volumes of late.
heres a couple of highly educated guesses, which are coupled with the company's past performances of record:
if there is no air permit by year end, expect price to plummet to near .25 levels.
if air permit granted prior to end of year, and JBII is told of the myriad other permits necessary to begin commercial production of [fuel like materials], expect price to plummet to near .25 levels.
consensus: expect JBII price to plummet to near .25 levels.
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BRIG_88 Share Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:17:13 PM
Re: ABIGHAMMER post# 79408 Post # of 79409
I agree...JBII is not a good investment for you based on your DD and you should avoid
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a bit late for that now, with my massive position. however, its only money. but that doesnt preclude JB, and/or the company from performing, which clearly they are not. so, just put me into the highly disgruntled shareholder category.
pretty safe to say at this juncture:
of course JBII doesnt pollute. they dont do anything. if they ever get the truckload of permits they will be needing to initiate commercial [fuel] production, the technology will be of value then.
but, when that may be, is another huge factor, ostensibly.
may as well just sit back and watch the SP decline, until then.
its inconceivable to me that JBII could be on the precipice.... the very edge of receiving necessary permitting to begin commercial production, and yet the stock ratchets down nearly daily, without fail.
with all the faith, and supposed progress who on earth is selling???
my guess: they arent nearly as close as people suppose. and, those in the know are dumping.
who, and/or where does it say JBII has all the necessary permits in Canada to begin commercial production?
just because they have a simple air permit, dont preclude the thought they need myriad other permits, much like they will in the states.
nice first post Loggo !!! mainly cuz of the all important T & A content.
u get to stay.
now we're getting somewhere. this has been my underlying train of thought since day one, or whatever day all the letter writing discussions began.
and, to quote Big Bang.......... " how could she sleep at night" ????????????
TO: WAMUVOODOO
FROM: ABIGHAMMER
SUBJECT: ITS TIME
VOODOO; DO YOUR THING, PLEASE.
http://www.ghostofwamu.com/documents/Examiner/4401/JPM_EX00036140.PDF
ABIGHAMMER
yes, that would be anticipating the best of scenarios.
however, when has JBII management performed in that capacity???
the hell with his ole broke ass... i'll keep plagerizing it !!!!
LMAOFFFFFFFF
big mistake on your part, i would most certainly send it, and as i illustrated priorly, unedited. particularly if thats how you feel.
what could happen, it gets tossed? how bout the converse side, for a change: it gets considered?????????????
courtesy, one highly respected dude:
http://yfrog.com/n9monkeyjoke1z
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=67907