JimLur..We have achieved a ten year MILESTONE!!!..From the IDCC 2002 annual report.."We also recorded our FIRST MEASURABLE 3G royalty revenues from licensees participating in the early WCDMA deployment..IMO:ANALYST's are now capable after NOKIA and Samsung payments are actually made to MEASURE the recurring royalty stream for IDCC from future 2G and 3G sales by Nokia, Ericsson, Ericsson/Sony,Samsung, NEC,Sharp, Matsushita...These are all Public Companies with open sales records and future sales estimates..IDCC 2G and 3G royalty rates are a MEASURABLE item..and can now be calculated with a simple Forensic exercise...