Replies to post #167821 on The Question and Answer Board (IHUB)

[zomniac]

standard message board format across the net
?????????????????????
I beg to differ

[jwez]

who cares about "industry standard"... lol... it's not as if folks won't come here because it looks different... i visit a ton of forums and i would prefer the "industry" to mix it up or convert to what you had... seriously... please put it back.... at the very least get rid of the "related discussions" to the right and extend the message box...

[VIPR]

Try it on an ipad or mobile device and get back to us.......we all dont have fluffy nice offices. Its garbage.....it wasnt broke and you had enuff ads jammed down our throats already

EOM

[Churak]

For example, I find the "related boards" that are showing up on Q&A as totally worthless to me as well. What would make more sense?

Nothing...waste of space...get rid of that column and that may appease the masses

[ChannelTrader]

Folks trading & posting & reading charts beg to differ...this change sucks royal and IHUBBERS hate it...so why force it down our throats ???

I, personally, am not having the same issues others are with reading the message but I have a large monitor on my laptop.

[LexTrader]

Maybe stock statistics of some sort. Or sports scorebox. Otherwise the third column is useless IMO

[Slojab]

No, you don't.

we do need to stay up to date, within reason, with industry standard

If everyone jumped off a cliff, I dont have to, as well. ) :

[RG]

Agree with you on the related boards as they are totally useless to me also. It would be nice if I had my L2 for that stock show up in there instead.

[TenKay]

1) Get the poster name BACK into the message box. The poster profile is a waste and makes it hard to associated a post with a poster quickly and intuitively
2) Related discussions needs to go
3) I would gladly put up with this on my iPad if the pop ups would stop....but both together pushes me close to leaving. It is a visual onslaught....and worse on an iPad
4) get the replies info, respond button and TOS buttons currently at the bottom of the page up to the bottom of the message. Again on an iPad the scrolling requirement is a little much

I have looked at a number of other message boards and don't agree with the three column statement. It does not seem to be the norm...but that may just be the ones I am looking at.

[SRV-90]

The expression K.I.S.S comes to mind here.

Why have the reply to or main posting on the left side separate from the actual message. It's tied to the message and shouldn't be separated from it. Causes way too much confusion.

Once you see it you know where to click from now on, but it still isn't efficient use of space.

The link to the previous post and current replies was so easy to obtain and now you have to look in two places.

Just silliness on the layout and I can't say I've ever seen this as the standard amongst BBS.

No likey I tells ya ;-)

[tdbowieknife]

What's wrong with being different and the best?

[ksquared]

...this is standard message board format across the net... we do need to stay up to date, within reason, with industry standard.

You can't lead by following.
You can only add to the dead weight and sink faster.

Put it back the way it was.
Please.

[Susie924]

Our intention is to go with a 3 column format on read messages because this is standard message board format across the net. While it might be difficult to get used to at first, we do need to stay up to date, within reason, with industry standard


I am not one of the people complaining about the change but if the reason it Was done because "everyone is doing it", that's ridiculous.

[mc6102]

The problem is, the reason people favor ihub is because it's different from all the rest. I can understand ad placement might be an issue because if there is a standard most people are gearing toward -- you have to make a living, right?

But, functionality and readability were great features here.

If this is absolute I hope you can at least adjust the placement of the links for responding or editing posts so they match the content column.

[kajulie]

The issue for many including myself is that charts are no longer usefull in posts. You say you are not having the same issue. Can you look at the charts in this post and tell us how a market breadth chart that is cutoff in July is usefull to anyone? Wouldn't it have made more sense to find a way to shrink it to fit in the new format, or at the very least, cut the charts off on the left instead of the right? I am also using a large monitor. It you are able to see this chart up to today, can you please share your monitor size and configuration?

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81748753

[jwez]

also, more often than not those 3 column forums are free, they need the add space... ihub charges $$ in place of the adds, so what's the problem???

[$oldier Hard]

"Related Boards" is totally useless. In most cases they aren't even related. Trying to fix something that isn't broken while running well makes no sense. Put us back the way we were.

[Hokie]

I always thought IHUB set the standards for message board sites. Why do you feel the need to succumb to a new standard that is against the wants, needs and desires of your current members? Just doesn't make good sense to me. Too many folks here are really upset with the new format, many and most of which have been here for years and liked what is was, because it was the way in worked the best.....get rid of the "related discussions" to the right and extend the message box...

[BigBake1]

This is ridiculous, it is not even usable on IPad and Smartphones when using a browser. Your app is limited in its use already, the only reason most download the App is so they can use the L2 services. As you already know you cannot moderate a board from the apps. I am not paying for crap like this, you can bet if stays in this current format I will not be paying for a new subscription and I am certain I am not the only one.

[TRAPPER JIM]

Evening IH Admin [Shelly]Just gotta say I hate the new format and absolutely vote in favor of going back to the old board format.I hate everything being all small and cramped its hard for me to read.I dont really give a hoot about all the other stuff that is now on the board pages.If I want to read someones info I can just click on it I dont need to see it for every poster.I dont need related topics.Can we have an option to use the old style board if we dont like the new one since we are paying for this message board.

[DewDiligence]

Please restore the old format or a lot of people will bid iHub adieu. After 10 years and 75,000 posts, I think know what I’m talking about.

You're wasting time soliciting people's opinions about how to tweak the new format. Just restore the old format...period. It wasn't broken.

[ONEBGG]

Here's my Two Cents: Maybe admin failed to consider that iHub is doing well because it was different.

I also see your point of wanting to compete with other that some of us are avoiding by being here.

[color=darkblueI suggest we have a Close/Open Sidebars Tab [/color] somewhere on the screen for those of us who dislike this new format; which I suspect there is more of than admin have thought there would be.

Sure I can get along with it, and yes I only have a 20'' inch HD monitor, but I should not have to have a larger screen to use iHub.

[PennyXpert]

Dont like it Shelly, too many ads, i understand ads create revenues but with new format its like in our face.:(

[Koog]

Dear Admin Shelly,

The new post layout is REALLY bad. But I'm sure you already know that.

[pitboss22]

Shelly, it would make sense to bring back the "In reply to: xxxxx who wrote msg# 1234" to make it easier to keep track of who is replying to who. Without it, one must use the other person's name which already makes the message most of the way to an off-topic deletion by Admin.

[uranium-pinto-beans]

It sucks! Change it back.

[BullNBear52]

Sites like yahoo allow a user to customize the layout.

[janice shell]

Our intention is to go with a 3 column format on read messages because this is standard message board format across the net.

Oh REALLY? You coulda fooled me. I don't know of a single financial message board that uses it, and I've visited quite a few.

IHub now has the smallest message space of any financial board I know.

That sends a very powerful message, and the message is that management has utter contempt for users. There hasn't been a single favorable comment. But, I'm sorry to say, the admins are pretty much ignoring the sentiments expressed. So far one small concession has been made; adding the name of the poster to the message box.

Even doing that indicates a lack of understanding of the real problem, which is that the message board is now a very insignificant part of the page.

Is there some part of that the people in charge are missing?

While it might be difficult to get used to at first, we do need to stay up to date, within reason, with industry standard.

Could you point us to some examples of this "industry standard" that has so far entirely escaped my notice?

And why, exactly, do you feel compelled to conform to a "standard" unsuitable to a site of this kind? Evidently you believe it's better to add two columns of meaningless junk just to satisfy the demands of a "standard" that as far as I and many others are concerned is mythical.

Franky, I don't buy it.

We had intended there to be a roll out and discussion prior to the new format being introduced but, unfortunately, that wasn't able to happen.

Why not? Because you had a very good idea what response you'd get? There is nothing "critical" about rolling out a site redesign. The servers don't blow up if you delay one.

I, personally, am not having the same issues others are with reading the message but I have a large monitor on my laptop.

Do you understand that many of us don't want to read IHub full-screeen? That we have other windows open? That messages only three or four inches wide are unreadable? You need to consider ALL users' experience, not just your own.

I don't know if it's an option that we have a "classic" version or not. If not, then what?

If not, a great many users will employ AdBlock. Others will become fed up and leave. This could turn out to be a terrific opportunity for competing sites.

One you're handing to them on a silver platter.

I'm not beating up on you personally. But you represent the company, and so you have to come up with responses better than those you've offered, I'm afraid.

[Howzitgoing]

If the concern is a layout that works for different screen sizes, why not give the user a choice at log-in?

Maybe not this many choices, but you get the idea.

http://www.ltnow.com/what-is-responsive-website-design/



http://desizntech.info/2012/12/the-pros-cons-of-responsive-web-designing/

[fuagf]

Shelly, thanks for the "Re" adjustment on the single post format .. thanks to janice shell who really rocked it here ..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=92895899 ..
nuff said on most everything now .. i'll just add on your ..

"iHub has evolved greatly over the last 12 years and this is part of the process."

.. how would you feel if you were a rancher and had a 3 legged horse born? .. please
reconsider .. noone enjoys looking at wasted space which exists so much on the format now ..

[e-ore]

Hi Shelly. I also find the "related discussion" a waste of space because when I look at it in my own posts what's there has no correlation at all to other boards I view or post on. It offends me that ihub is making people who don't know me think those "related" boards are where I spend my time. As an example the boards shown in the "related discussions" in this post are in no way related at all to me or the post.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=92892524

I like the expanded profile though.

[Rainer]

"related boards" section has to go. I don't think I can ever get used to any of this. Life isn't the same.

[F6]

IH Admin [Shelly] -- the change is unmitigatedly horrible

please get rid of it, or at the very least give folks the ability to opt out of it

thank you

[jwez]

we don't need the ghetto ihub chart, L1, or related discussions in the far right... it makes that column extremely long with a ton of wasted space below the message box... ?????? really, do you guys not even think about what you're doing before you do it???

does anyone sketch on a white board anymore???? come on, people, get with it. just get rid of the far right column and extend the message box for now and deal with the rest later. give us something back today...

[sunspotter]

Any three column format is more difficult to read, and not worth doing. The argument that "everybody else is doing it so we need to do as well" is a worthless substitute for reason.

If iHub wants to be the next financial messaging community to join Yahoo or RB message boards in the dustbin of history, then press on.

But I beg you not to do that. That would only leave SI as worth visiting, and until now I liked ihuvb better.

[DiamondFire]

Hello Shelly and thanks to you all for opening up discussion on this important topic of new changes.

I like the new changes as much as I like the new iOS7: not much at all, to the point of hating it.

Like that major Apple overhaul and change, the new IHub posting/message screen was forced upon an unknowing public, who didnt ask for it.

Like reinventing the wheel - no reason. Thats how good the old posting format was, so good we didnt realize until this drastic change happened.

We understand keeping up with the times, BUT the expression of the human word will never go out of style, and the old format best did this; with just each persons post and thoughts filling the whole screen upon opening a post, this best exemplified and showcased these many individual thoughts and words.

To now though have a chart and some random DowJones and irrelevant Penny Stock news on the side, shrinking our posts and thoughts down - minimizes our own words (almost trivializes them in a way), shrinks our individualism, and destroys the simple and perfect IHub format of old.

So thanks for this opportunity to express our opinions on this change.


Solution? I like Solutions lol.....: take an IHub poll as whether to keep the new format or go back to the old one. Majority rules.....or we could even do a 'needs 75% approval' kinda super-majority vote to best prove to IHub owners and mgt. that this is clearly the thing to do, as I still think it would pass, and that 75% or more would want the old style back!




Thanks again for this opportunity and take care!


Diamond