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go-kitesurf

01/16/06 10:39 AM

#106763 RE: barge #106761

--EDIT-- Barge I agree that ViiV and Live will eventually need a TPM to grant access to premium content (eventually).

But barge, the Embassy software is already bundled with Intel boards (EDIT, and this was before ViiV even existed) and it is easy to assume that any TPM board will have ETS, anyway. We already knew this two years ago. I'm asking about where you state that "viiv is everywhere, so is ETS" how you come to that conclusion.

That statement indicates that Wave will get bundling contracts with all Intel chipset and processor suppliers to end users in the world because ETS is required.

I think *any* TPM activation software would do (EDIT) for whichever OEM is going to deploy ViiV platforms and Intel's bundling never affected other OEMs that shipped Intel chips to bundle Wave and not Infineon.

Please show me where they say ViiV is in need of "ETS" and not an "activated TPM".

EDIT, until I see specific OEM collaboration between Wave and Intel to specifically support ViiV inside ETS for some specific need, I can't see any Intel influence on OEMs deploying TPMs to require ETS.

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awk

01/16/06 10:48 AM

#106764 RE: barge #106761

Clarification re: LaGrande versus TPM

barge wrote:

"...Another thing, you can almost bet your bottom dollar on is this: Lagrande is going to be involved in the equation which means Interoperability of Trust Domains! And it will be this OPEN INTEROPERABLE PLATFORM that ViiV is going to incessantly crow about, which, in turn, will significantly DROWN OUT THE NOISE OF THE PARANOID TPM CROWD!.."



While LaGrande is clearly part of the equation I feel compelled to emphasize that the 1.2 TPM serves as the root-of-trust for LaGrande.

LaGrande (LT) is an architecture that, in conjunction with Virtualization Technology (VT), allows for secured processor partitions within which i.e different OSs can be run. VT also provides the room for a "TPM factory" enabling TPM instantiations for each active partition.

It is also very much conceivable that a secure kernel OS can run in a partition. However, in the past, Intel has stated that this would require rich OS support...and Vista, at least in the first iteration, does not appear to provide that support.

LT also provides the mechanisms for secure input/output...but it remains to be seen when that will be implemented...I suspect that also this feature requires extensive rich OS support. Unfortunately Intel and AMD have been pretty vague on these aspects...