Replies to post #3929 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[Math Junkie]

Jar, are you trying to use the laws of physics to prove the existence of God? If so, a fundamental obstacle to this endeavor is that the laws of physics themselves have not been proven, and in fact can never be proven. All we know is that they have served us well as a tool for developing new technology, and for learning more about the universe.

By the same token, it is not possible to say that the laws of physics disprove the existence of God either.

I agree that some things must be taken on faith. It is a personal decision as to how far one wishes to go with that.

[SoxFan]

> I am giving a reasonable argument for God's existence.

I believe you think you are unfortunately I'm still not convinced as I have not made that fundamental leap of faith. Just because I can't explain something I cannot substitute god in that equation and say that the answer.

You seem to think that god had to create matter and that our current understanding of physics, which is being challenged with new data and adding more knowledge to it constantly. There are many parts of the universe which we know we don't understand and parts of our world we don't know what we don't understand.

You seem to feel comfortable with filling in the blanks with god. Yet 100 years ago we had not discovered much of the physics in which you rely your first premise. So in a time line your 1 premise could not be proved without a "leap of faith" by your definition 500 years ago. I guess we agree to disagree.

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