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dyna

07/26/05 1:30 PM

#2558 RE: dread50above #2557

Maybe you are right Dread, but I really can't imagine why Carlisle and CXO would want to ruin the company. Wouldn't it ruin their reputation if tovc failed?

tovc's response has an equal amount of venom. The problem I have is in their reponse. Many statments just are absurd and or lies (such as the TEMPORARY word they snuck in) as i posted earlier today. I would like you, Torvecian or anyone to address that issue. If you would, then maybe I could cancel my emergeny Drs. appointment I set up.

It is hard for me to believe that Fain was blamed for not moving the FTV. The CEO and CFO is responsible for being a parking lot attendant also?
There are just to many Childlike claims in the response letter for me to just blame carlisle and cxo.

I am waiting for the other shoe to drop. i.e. Mary Ho's resignation letter. I assume it must be in the works. That may answer some of our questions.


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Invest1111

07/26/05 1:33 PM

#2559 RE: dread50above #2557

Dread, Why do you think that Carlisle would want to sabatoge any deal? What would be his motivation? What are you thoughts on the fuel efficiencies?

Here is Carlisles reason per his statement:

"Based on Torvec's Form 8-K disclosure suggesting that the moves of July 8, 2005 were made to "provide greater efficiency and streamline the corporate decision making process", I feel compelled to clarify the reasons for my resignation from Torvec's BOD. My resignation was the direct results of the events of July 8th, 2005."

IMO, I would say that he felt that the 8k disclosure was a personal attack on his reputation and felt compelled to defend himself.

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gappiano

07/26/05 3:24 PM

#2566 RE: dread50above #2557

How interesting that you cite only this particular instance of venom when, to me, venom seems the norm in terms of the treatment of shareholders -- especially those with questions, any questions -- at every shareholders' meeting I have attended, by Mr. JG.

I can't imagine ANYONE being so generally impolite under normal business meeting circumstances let alone to us, the shareholders, who have a financial stake (some large, some not so large)in the company and are very interested IN IT'S SUCCESS. Why are we constantly treated like the enemy or as intruders at these meetings? And in general, why are we shut out from the necessary information which we deserve and need to consider as investors?