Replies to post #158328 on Plastic2Oil Inc (PTOI)

[xxxxcslewis]

4k,

thank you.

[P2O I'm from MO]

tellingly enough the sec's file was created on 4/20/11 but no one .. er .. outside of the IRS or mgmt knew that then>

Uh-huh. If *the poster* obtained this info how hard could it have been for others to do the same? How could anyone possibly know this unless *they* have an inside source? Then versus now will be just another excuse.

Just more "fuel" for the conspiracy theories.

<edit>Thanks for also confirming that the IRS is involved.

[monkeyfrog]

So another pipe is in the works? Thanks!

[madeindet]

4kids what I find alarming is the increase in volume ahead of SEC announcements. It would be alarming but not surprising as to which short is communicating with the sec and to see the emails going back and forth with the sec and the shorts.

[loanranger]

"FACT: the second public correspondence out of the sec revealed
that the file was created on 4/20/2011 and uploaded 2 months later on 6/20/2011"

That's not even close to being a *FACT*!!!

The file wasn't "created on 4/20/2011". The correspondence relates to the Form 10-K for the Year Ended December 31, 2010.........which is the document that was "Filed April 20, 2011". It says so in the heading of the correspondence.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000011037909/filename1.pdf

The "Properties" of the .pdf file conveying the correspondence indicate that the file was:
"Created 6/21/11 1:26:57 PM"

So it couldn't possibly have been "uploaded" "on 6/20/11" either.



Two swings, two misses.

[fourkids_9pets]

JBII >> VOLUME STATS >> TELLING FACTS

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=71052362

so the ante has been upped ..

the sec in their infinite wisdom of
proving yet again their hypocrisy
re: JBI & DOMARK re: media credits
has revealed (within the last week) via
previously <non public> correspondence
*NOW* uploaded on JBI's <sec> site
covering pre r/m (DOMARK) and post r/m (JBI)

so the file ~ which b4 last week ~ the
only date to go off of re: sec's website
was indeed APR 2011 ~ but courtesy of
the sec upping the ante in their witch hunt of JBI
now *shows* File No. 000-5244 back to 11/24/08

which makes the numerous (public correspondence)
*additions* added by the sec in the last week .. rather revealing

here's the pdf to DOMARK (now earliest sec correspondence)
from 11/24/08 .. shown via JBI

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000008057999/filename1.pdf

notice file no. and content .. it's 2.25 pages in length
and pertains to DOMARK's change in acct & amended return

12/17/2008 .. letter in .. 1 page pdf (review complete no comments)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000008062359/filename1.pdf

3/20/2009 .. 2.25 page letter to nicole wright (acct and amended)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000009014374/filename1.pdf

4/10/2009 .. wright (domark) responds to the sec

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000118518509000306/filename1.htm

4/10/2009 .. sec responds to wright .. 1.5 pages (acct and amended)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000009018915/filename1.pdf

4/20/2009 .. wright responds to sec

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000118518509000350/filename1.htm

4/21/2009 .. sec responds to wright (review completed nothing further)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000009020752/filename1.pdf

8/20/2009 .. first sec *query* to JB specific to accountants (8k filed) (note the file no. is the same as domark's)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000009020752/filename1.pdf

8k in question (note the dates contained)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000121390009002159/f8k081409_310.htm

8/11/2009 ~ schedule 13D filed by JB

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000121390009001993/sc13dbordynuik_310.htm

8/24/2009 .. JB's response to the sec

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000121390009002275/filename1.htm

8/25/2009 .. sec responds .. review complete .. no further comments

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000009046484/filename1.pdf

now this is where it gets really interesting ..

9/1/2009 .. sec query to JB re: 10K filed in march 2009 (which of
course was DOMARK <KIDD>) and the 8k from 8/17/2009

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000009046484/filename1.pdf

10K in question

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000118518509000231/holdings310_10-k123108.htm

8k in question

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000009046484/filename1.pdf

9/23/2009 .. sec letter to JB specific to *re audit*

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000009053250/filename1.pdf

We note that you filed an Item 4.01 Form 8-K/A on September 3, 2009 in
response to the issues raised in our letter dated September 1, 2009. Additionally, please
file a response letter via EDGAR as previously requested to advise us as to how you
intend to address any re-audit requirements.

SO IT WAS A KIDD SET UP <media credits .. shell & certs of 3.5M> >>>>

10/8/2009 .. JBI's atty's response to sec

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000121390009002760/filename1.htm

10/13/2009 .. sec response .. review complete .. no further comments

ALMOST A YEAR WOULD GO BY >>>>>>

9/28/2010 .. sec would send out a 9 page letter with 33 separate
bullet points needing *comment* (worth the time to read and
figure time lines)

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000000000010057104/0000000000-10-057104-index.htm

this is also the first time sec correspondence is signed by

Sincerely,

“for”
Jeff Jaramillo
Accounting Branch Chief

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i challenge anyone to read that letter written by jeff jaramillo
on 9/28/2010 and tell me the sec wasn't on a witch hunt and
doesn't aid and abet ..

the question i have is who exactly (and a trial would answer this)

because by sept 2010
WSB had been hired to *re audit* and on the job for over 4.5 months
and the 2009 K had been re-audited (amended and filed) with the sec
as of 7/9/2010

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1381105/000121390010002805/0001213900-10-002805-index.htm

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what is more damning here is unlike daily reg sho blowing out
in march 2011 on *no volume* (2nd lowest of 2011) and the sec
*disclosing* public correspondence (clearly selectively) the
following month ~ APR 2011 (not coincidentally highest vol month
in JBII in 2011)

is that they knew all along that DOMARK conveyed these credits
and KIDD *took* 3.5M in JBI certs >>> it was a *set up*
done by a serial scammer and CON ARTIST >>> and i have
no doubts those certs were handled by KIDD in the usual manner
SOP to serial scammers (loaned off shore for X times face value)
to *run* a stock .. then short the stock .. with the *usual*
goal of taking the pps to the cellar .. if the need to cover
was actually required .. usually not *required* .. co. killed
b4 that comes to pass .. due to inability to *access capital*
with a pps in the cellar (.0001)

and this is where the timing of the sec *STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN*

what they themselves have disclosed .. is *NOW* glaringly obvious

so as of 10/13/2009 .. the sec had completed their review
and had no further comment to JBI

remember folks .. there was no short position to speak of in JBII
b4 the events of MAY 2010 (WSB *8k'd*) and the pps taken down
from approx 5.00 to 1.60 on less than 800,000 in volume ~

that would change as i noted contemporaneously over the following
months .. by the fall of 2010 (note the sec's 33 bullet points)
from their query dated SEPTEMBER 28th 2010) the *short* in JBII
had evolved to ABUSIVE STATUS >>>>>

and it can clearly be shown via the tapes of JBII trades

it can also be documented via what shares are held and by whom
<restricted PIPE certs never deposited in any brokerage firm>
those are the affidavits i posted about last night (should the
co. proceed to trial)

this is important because those shares aren't able to be accessed
even cash accts can have shares accessed if the brokerage firm
*colludes* (regardless of what *retail* is told)

some dates worth reviewing for historical pps on JBII (now that
we have the new *input* from the sec re: *new* <albeit old> uploads

 Date	        Open	High	Low	Close	Volume	 
  
 07/09/10	1.20	1.30	1.15	1.30	38,860 
  
  
 09/28/10	0.83	0.83	0.765	0.80	95,916

notice the *volume* .. notice the pps *depreciation* on *low* volume

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sorry longs with emotional fatigue due to COLLUDING ENTITIES
MANIPULATING JBII's PPS FOR DAMN NEAR 20 MONTHS >>>
but this garbage needs to be addressed or there will never be
any legit co. that is safe from the cretinous filth that will
not hesitate to destroy totally legit co.s for profit ~ because
they can

like i've posted many times .. JBI (due to P2O) and the *8K* filed
by mgmt on 8/4/11 (specific to rock tenn) is the reason why JBI
has options and can survive the clear and insidious assault
done against it by at least 2 separate entities (tho to be
clear there may very well be overlap between KIDD's set up
and the unregulated hedge fund stuck on stupid re: JBII)

and a trial would give answers to all of this ..

time for some disinfectant at the sec and the hedge fund industry
and clearly KIDD

===
4kids
all jmo

[FrankLind]

I have one question regards the hedge fund you allege has a massive naked short position in JBI.

If they are so deep in a hole on this that JBI success would cause bankruptcy, wouldn't that mean they would never have to cover?

What are the recourses for investors if this were to occur?