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patchman

01/20/11 3:28 PM

#34532 RE: stervc #34371

actually, the 1 million FTD's failed for 1 day. It could have been a delay in settlement from a long seller holding a cert or it could have been bona-fide market making where the market maker did not close out their position that day but the day after. either way, unless those 1 Million shares on that trade day represented majority of volume and had an impact on price that day it was extremely benign.

If you wish to read more on how trades fail settlement the SEC has a primer on their site detailing the many ways a trade could fail settlement.

Bottom line, if there is an "official" confirmation of an FTD existing, then such means that the entire Float has been bought up and that there are no more shares in the remaining inventory of shares within the NWTT Float to be bought. That means that people are buying shares above the number of shares in the ”actual” Float per the SEC link you posted.



Totally wrong. The FTD has no direct relation to float whatsoever. float is what you and others hold, buy, or sell. An FTD is based on what that individual seller had when they sold INCLUDING simple delays in delivery of shares to their broker.

Again, all of this is well detailed at the SEC site and I would certainly not use an I-Hub post as authority over the actual laws and regulations presented by the reigning authorities.
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patchman

01/20/11 3:43 PM

#34550 RE: stervc #34371

just so that all clear on this:

If for some reason such continues to be the case with the FTD situation, then that would be an added plus in my opinion.



That FTD situation in NWTT was involving a single day event that went away the next day (i.e. The FTD covered itself) In the month of trading for December, by that report, only one trade day had any trading that resulted in an FTD and the FTD did not persist on day 2. The next time an FTD is reported to the system that number will be the next event and would the sum total fails in the system in this market (i.e no massive accumulation of fails that could generate a short squeeze; fails are reported as aggregate and not something you add up based on daily reports). These reports are likewise delayed by 2 - 3 weeks so you do not even see it real time.