You can spin it any way you want it but even if they are the same companies you speak of they were not part of QASP. If these are the companies that have been aquired by QASP then they now benefit QASP shareholders whereas before they did not. It may be that was Dean's intention when he set those ventures up in the first place. I can tell you that when I emailed IR and asked if the 4 new companies were previously owned by Dean and if he was selling companies to himself that I got a response from Dean himself and basicly told me that my question sounded ludicrous and they were not companies previously owned by himself. This is why I think they may be 4 business's that we are not aware of. But, Either way what once did not benefit us shareholders I believe now it does! If they are private companies then Dean has managed to put them under the new Quasar International Holdings umbrella. Since this is a holdings company, it was probably with a majority share purchase like the mineseeker deal. Yes, private companies have share structures. A very common practice. This is my take of the situation.