Replies to post #5837 on The Jailhouse (JAIL)

[Bird of Prey]

Matt,

I agree that Joe has had his difficulties here. Occasionally they have been big. But your opening paragraph could just as easily have been applied to me as it was to Joe. He does need to learn some respect, but for the life of me I can't see how much of anything you've done over the last year or that Fred is doing now will teach him about respect.
I don't believe that beating him will improve the situation either. Granted Fred's "I am a rock" style of debate can be difficult to overcome, but how is beating his head against Fred's Stone wall supposed to teach Joe anything? IMO, He's too smart to keep beating himself up against a non responsive opponent. If I were in his shoes a certain redhead would have a partner in trash talking IH over this.
As for the offer, Fred had already "given up" on Joe at the time the offer was made. Even then the offer should not have been made public.
Lastly, if this statement were true "Most people instantly get the boot for that.", there would be a long list of folks like myself that would no longer be posting at IH. At one time or another nearly all of your regular posters have become passionately involved in a disagreement. Contrary to the above statement, you are exceedingly tolerant of flame wars and Flame Warriors, even those that have crossed every line in the sand you've put in place (a certain redhead comes to mind as does a particularly vulgar "Ironhead").

You are right that Joe needs a "mentor", unfortunately you cannot choose one for him. He must do that for himself, only then can that mentor have any hope of helping joe reach his potential.


The Bird of Prey
#board-381

[Joemoney]

Matt, I hope I'm not giving you the wrong message regarding Fred.

I do believe this "Fred the warden" thing wasn't such a bad idea. Whether he is a good warden or not, I believe we managed to summarize mine and others' situations. A perfectly run jail isn't always the answer to reform. Sometimes outrage can bring out the seriousness and intelligence in others which can be used to solve each other's (not sure about where to put that comma, lol) situations.

I believe today was the biggest day of progress. I hope the progress continues. Churak and I are working hard to free ourselves, which is going to be a good test for Fred. I honestly don't know how all of this will turn out, but we'll hopefully find out soon.

[Patricia_1]

Matt

It seems that Joe does not know which post landed him in jail.

I went back on the last 50 posts by him, but I cannot go back any further.

Could you please help out here so that we can get a clearer picture of his actions that landed him in the playpen again?

That sure is a cute baby in that picture in his profile. <s> Is that a pic of you as a baby Matt? Really adorable.

Thanks for your time in digging it up again.

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

Matt,

Could you, as a favor to me, post the reason Joe is in jail?

If you can't find it or can't remember, please give him another chance per your recent (rescended) offer.

TIA,


Have fun,
Phil