Damn......we're soooooo close.....if you could only give up this idea of Socialism and its supposed connection to liberals.
right now the far left controls the Democart Party....and, the Democrat Party controls the US government....so, effectively, the US gov. has been hijacked by a group of Marxists...(they like to call themselves progressives)
reality: redistribution (which covers welfare) programs are steps in the direction of allocation by the ruling class to the masses....that's communism/marxism....
True enough, but without defending the former, what would you call the movement of wealth to the rich?
I've dealt with that here and also here in depth to you. I'm a bad typist and all this takes time. If you're not going to read what I write, I'll switch to one-liners, lol.
neither one, (unrestrained capitalism or pure communism) can exist on a practical or pragmatic basis because the lack of uniformity of world wide socio economic evolution requires each to modify itself.
in other words, unbridled capitallism would result in the "wild west" and communism would not be able sustain/maintain its status quo as pool of human knowledge increases and gives rise to technological advances.....either is impossible....
I'll be the first to admit that capitalism must be modified in practical application or else there is chaos.....
My position is and has been that you run a Capital system with a tight leash....a system built on fairness. See Fuagfs: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=48842595 Australia's min wage is TWICE OURS!!!!!!! TWICE! So please...this cry over Socialism is a Trojan Horse. Consider this.
(as an aside: you still believe that this economic crisis wasn't intentionally perpetrated by allowing & encouraging capitalism's unscruplous to "run wild"???)
"Still"?...lol. That's what I've been saying forever......"that this economic crisis WAS intentionally perpetrated by allowing & encouraging capitalism's unscruplous to "run wild".
We agree!!! Where we disagree is that Socialism isn't the enemy...it's Fascism (see above Ron Paul link) To summarize: again, we agree that an ideal...ie..Capitalism, Socialism...doesn't deal with reality, so let's quit talking about them as if either was really a viable solution. Secondly.......the super rich, the power elites, the true rulers don't give a damn about parties and ideals. They want CONTROL. And that control will come about thru Fascism
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