Replies to post #62735 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[ta_bull_rider]

Did the Russians lie as well? What about the UN? All of these organizations believed Saddam had WMD's. They went with limited intelligence that they thought was sufficient, and it ends up they were wrong.

Sloppy? yes. Concerned about our intelligence? yes. Did they lie? No.

And we can thank guys like John Kerry who have voted repeatedly to decrease intelligence funding. Perhaps with appropriate funding we would've known the truth. But as Kerry says, we still should have gone to war (or at least we should've authorized war, but I guess that's different than going to war or something, I can't quite figure it out).

[ieddyi]

Do you plan to vote for Kerry?
He voted in favor of the war and now says that even with the knowledge that the WMD's weren't found, he would vote for the war again.
The only difference is that kerry now says that in hindsight he would have carried the whole thing out flawlessly. He also says that he would have brought more allies in to commit troops. The only allies missing are france and germany. They were profiting by sadaam being in power via the oil for food scam. Politically it would be suicide for them to offer any kind of support. It's NOT going to happen, even with Kerry's patrician tones urging them on
Regarding the WMD, the Un inspectors over the years had certified massive stockpiles. Under the UN rules, they could only be destroyed under their supervision. Either they destroyed them illegaly ( why would they do that ) or have possibly moved them to another location- possibly SYRIA. That sadaam DID have stockpiles of WMD has been recoginzed and verified for years. The only relevant question is what happened to them

eddy