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08/03/04 11:39 AM

#69296 RE: Drillbit #69292

yes drillbit, I believe that overseas hedge funds are the culprit here, and the shorting continues.

I think that the third party naked shorters don't believe that CMKX is a real company, and they believe that they can send us into a "dilution death spiral". The 35 billion addition to the O/S only strengthened their resolve, imo.

Unfortunately for the shorts though, Roger and Urban have a plan to blow them out of the water, imo. All information that may move the PPS is being held back for a reason, imo. I think Roger and Urban actually want to encourage more naked shorting, because there may be a measure of revenge involved for both men in this matter.

This is a hugely explosive situation. Either CMKX is a real company or it isn't. I believe Urban is for real, and this stock will explode upward in value, and be talked about by traders for years to come.

(this is all speculation on my part, but the truth will be known over the next 30 to 40 days, IMO).
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jon_e_og

08/03/04 11:39 AM

#69297 RE: Drillbit #69292

<< Do you believe in hedge funds facilitating naked shorting? >>

Most Market Makers don't Naked Short for profit, they make enough by playing the spread and trading around order flow...

The majority of illegal shorting comes from large offshore hedgefund clients, whose broker/dealers conveniently turn their head and hide when it comes time to make the affirmative detirminations of the availability of stock to borrow. The MMs simply take shares that these hedge funds 'counterfeit' and sell them as real...

If anyone is illegally shorting this stock I think it's safe to assume its NOT the Market Makers...

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fung_derf

08/03/04 11:43 AM

#69300 RE: Drillbit #69292

Really? Do you have this rule in print somewhere? Didn't think so.
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catman

08/03/04 12:01 PM

#69329 RE: Drillbit #69292

Is naked shorting LEGAL? Answer: NO ?????

HUmmmmm....what does it take to get THROUGH ????

NAKED SHORTING............IS LEGAL !!! YES !!!

In the interest of LIQUIDITY the MM"s are ALLOWED
to Naked short stocks to keep the market moving...
it is quite LEGAL and VERY usefull in the big picture....
THE PROBLEM ARISES HERE ON THE OTC AND THE PINK SHEETS
because there is NO REGULATORY agencey overseeing the
"ETHICS" of the MM"S !!!!!
________________GET THIS CLEAR IN YOUR MIND !!!__________
THE MM"S ON THE OTC AND PINKSHEETS >>>>>>>>>NEVER<<<<<<
EVER NEVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER
had to DELARE OR ACCOUNT FOR THE NAKED SHORT POSITIONS
_________________EVER !!!!________________________

UNLESS....a company comes along and starts doing the VERY
SAME THINGS that CMKX is doing RIGHT NOW !!!!
IF they DO NOT GO UNDER FIRST.....the mm's will EVERNUTALLY
HAVE to cover their positions...this is why so many people
here are FOLLOWING THEM !!!
THE MM"S STAND AN EXCELLENT CHANCE OF GETTING CRUSHED HERE !!!
As long as they NEVER have to account for their positions
their DEEP POCKETS can bankrupt ANY company listed on EITHER
exchange by simply shorting them to DEATH. JUST look at
what is happenintg to TNGO AND STUOF...perfect examples.
EVERYTIME good news comes out...the price will hold or even
take a SMALL MOVE UP AND THEN BANG...the price comes CRASHING
DOWN !!!
TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT...that is the way the game is played down
here...you eitehr like it or NOT but it's NEVER GOING TO CHANGE !
The BIG BROKERS and the SEC are in each others pockets and
there is WAY to much money to FLEECE out of the unsuspecting
newcomers and OLD traders alike to EVER change the rules.
JUST ASK GUMP...he has fought to get them changed for YEARS !
He is STILL here presumably because he was able to win enough
of the time to justify being on these exchanges.
I'm selling off my holdings....I'm not good enough to compete
with people that work in the dark and will NEVER see the light
of day.
GLTY though...you might be one of the FEW people that can make
money here....most people come in with great intentions THINKING
they are investing in good young companies with a CHANCE of
making it to the "next level" the truth is.....MOST of them
NEVER STAND A CHANCE of getting out of PINK/OTC HELL !!!
HELL....many of them go to GREAT LEGNTHS to STAY HERE !!
The companies themSELVES don't have to report their shinanaigans
EITHER !!!
heehehehhhehe...I"m A FREELY ADMITED CHUMP for thinking I
was smart enough to compete....but YOU are probably MUCH
smarter than ME...you just might be the ONE in a THOUSAND
taht invest money here and gets ANY of it back !!!
catman....ISYA

PS...get on the phone RIGHT NOW with ANY reputable Broker
in America and ask their SPECIALIST what they think of a
NOVICE trading here !!!
THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL HERE !!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!
Seriously, I've had more than ONE Schwab rep BURST into
laughter when he lookd at MY port !
Makes a guy feel REALLY good about a years work !
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