Mickey.. If you're saying, "The ceo says he hopes we will hold $1.50 per phone in 2012 and common sense says we are getting more than 1.50 now", then I think I would agree with you. I'm not sure, but I think most others do also. Perhaps it's just a matter of not understanding how each of us explain things differently. In many of your ideas, you're probably no farther off base than any of us so I don't think there's as much disagreement as you seem to sometimes feel. ........ Anyway, it will certainly be good to see what details idcc finally offers. .. nic